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J

John B. slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:23:42 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. slocomb wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:00:38 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:09 +0200, Alias
>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/07/2010 09:26 AM, John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:53:07 +0200, Alias
>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> snipped
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't catch me lying and I do know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is very strange. Most people when accused of lying immediately come
>>>>>>>> back with pages of proof that they DID know what they were talking
>>>>>>>> about...But you don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All it takes is doing it and being attentive. Do you have an attention
>>>>>>> span problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It can only be assumed that you were caught lying again and cannot
>>>>>>>> produce proof of your statement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, but I did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems to be happening more and more these days, doesn't it alias?
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With you, yes. You've lied with almost every one of your posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardly lies. I can provide evidence for nearly everything I write.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you can't.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You on the other hand never seem to produce any evidence that you are
>>>>>> not lying. You simply cone back with some 3 rd year school yard taunt
>>>>>> -"yada, yada, yada, your mother wears army boots"
>>>>>
>>>>> Projecting will get you nowhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is strange, you know, few people like to be known as a liar and
>>>>>> readily produce some verification for their statements when
>>>>>> challenged. You however, never do. You just shout school boy insults.
>>>>>
>>>>> Projecting will get you nowhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short alias, the masked and anymous invalid, you appear to be
>>>>>> nothing but a lying fool. Lies as you can never verify any of your
>>>>>> statements and foolish for thinking anyone believes you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet, you can't cite one single lie, liar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In your dreams. But more to the point you have never furnished any
>>>> even quasi evidence to indicate that anything you have said is even
>>>> partially the truth.. In truth, you are just a common garden variety
>>>> liar and when someone accuses you of lying you reply with another
>>>> childish response as above.
>>>>
>>>> In short you are just an every day bull-shitter. If you were a little
>>>> inventive or able to concoct a reasonably interesting story it would
>>>> be a whole different story - we could read you for entertainment. But
>>>> you aren't capable of that. You just continue to blather on and on. As
>>>> the Supreme court describes it you are pornography - you have no
>>>> social redeeming qualities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> John B.
>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>
>>> Yet you can't cite one single lie. All you can do is hurl lying insults.

>>
>>
>> I have quoted your lies to the point where it becomes ridiculous and
>> time after time you avoid replying by changing the subject.

>
> No lie cited.
>
>>
>> I have challenged you in another message to prove your statement that
>> Ubuntu "tells you" how fast it transfer a file.

>
>No lie cited. Only a blind, drooling idiot couldn't see it if he or she
>had installed Ubuntu.
>
>>
>> So far you have avoided the challenge by changing the subject. Please
>> note that the following definitions of "tell" are the commonly used
>> ones.(right out of a Linux dictionary)
>>
>> 1. express in words
>> 2. let something be known
>> 3. narrate or give a detailed account of
>>
>> So either get with the program or admit that you are a liar.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>Ubuntu will tell you the speed as it's transferring the file. It's
>usually between 80 and 100 MB/sec.
>
>Soooooooo, no lies cited. Everyone act really surprised.


Ah, but you did lie.

You said that Ubuntu told you how fast it copied a file. You didn't
say that Ubuntu told you how fast your network was running,,, did
you?. So, as I have posted in another thread, the question is whether
you don't know the difference between coping a file and transferring
over a network, or whether you were just lying about what Ubuntu can
do?

I think that votes will be about equal, with perhaps a bit larger
emphasis on the lying side.

So obviously, unless you are lying yet again, you, a complete boob
when it comes to computers, are charging people to work on their
computer.... That is fraud, isn't it?

So, lets see. You lie, you don't know anything about computers, and
now we discover that you are a criminal also.....

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. slocomb wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:23:42 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:00:38 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:09 +0200, Alias
>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/07/2010 09:26 AM, John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:53:07 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> snipped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn't catch me lying and I do know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is very strange. Most people when accused of lying immediately come
>>>>>>>>> back with pages of proof that they DID know what they were talking
>>>>>>>>> about...But you don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All it takes is doing it and being attentive. Do you have an attention
>>>>>>>> span problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It can only be assumed that you were caught lying again and cannot
>>>>>>>>> produce proof of your statement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, but I did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems to be happening more and more these days, doesn't it alias?
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With you, yes. You've lied with almost every one of your posts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hardly lies. I can provide evidence for nearly everything I write.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you can't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You on the other hand never seem to produce any evidence that you are
>>>>>>> not lying. You simply cone back with some 3 rd year school yard taunt
>>>>>>> -"yada, yada, yada, your mother wears army boots"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Projecting will get you nowhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is strange, you know, few people like to be known as a liar and
>>>>>>> readily produce some verification for their statements when
>>>>>>> challenged. You however, never do. You just shout school boy insults.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Projecting will get you nowhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In short alias, the masked and anymous invalid, you appear to be
>>>>>>> nothing but a lying fool. Lies as you can never verify any of your
>>>>>>> statements and foolish for thinking anyone believes you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet, you can't cite one single lie, liar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In your dreams. But more to the point you have never furnished any
>>>>> even quasi evidence to indicate that anything you have said is even
>>>>> partially the truth.. In truth, you are just a common garden variety
>>>>> liar and when someone accuses you of lying you reply with another
>>>>> childish response as above.
>>>>>
>>>>> In short you are just an every day bull-shitter. If you were a little
>>>>> inventive or able to concoct a reasonably interesting story it would
>>>>> be a whole different story - we could read you for entertainment. But
>>>>> you aren't capable of that. You just continue to blather on and on. As
>>>>> the Supreme court describes it you are pornography - you have no
>>>>> social redeeming qualities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> John B.
>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>
>>>> Yet you can't cite one single lie. All you can do is hurl lying insults.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have quoted your lies to the point where it becomes ridiculous and
>>> time after time you avoid replying by changing the subject.

>>
>> No lie cited.
>>
>>>
>>> I have challenged you in another message to prove your statement that
>>> Ubuntu "tells you" how fast it transfer a file.

>>
>> No lie cited. Only a blind, drooling idiot couldn't see it if he or she
>> had installed Ubuntu.
>>
>>>
>>> So far you have avoided the challenge by changing the subject. Please
>>> note that the following definitions of "tell" are the commonly used
>>> ones.(right out of a Linux dictionary)
>>>
>>> 1. express in words
>>> 2. let something be known
>>> 3. narrate or give a detailed account of
>>>
>>> So either get with the program or admit that you are a liar.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John B.
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>>
>> Ubuntu will tell you the speed as it's transferring the file. It's
>> usually between 80 and 100 MB/sec.
>>
>> Soooooooo, no lies cited. Everyone act really surprised.

>
> Ah, but you did lie.
>
> You said that Ubuntu told you how fast it copied a file.


It does.

> You didn't
> say that Ubuntu told you how fast your network was running,,, did
> you?.


Not relevant.

> So, as I have posted in another thread, the question is whether
> you don't know the difference between coping a file and transferring
> over a network, or whether you were just lying about what Ubuntu can
> do?


I wasn't discussing networks at all. You are trying to use that to
weasel out of the fact that Ubuntu will tell you the transfer speed when
you copy and paste something.

>
> I think that votes will be about equal, with perhaps a bit larger
> emphasis on the lying side.


You and think is an oxymoron.

>
> So obviously, unless you are lying yet again, you, a complete boob
> when it comes to computers, are charging people to work on their
> computer.... That is fraud, isn't it?


No lies except, of course, in your twisted imagination.

>
> So, lets see. You lie, you don't know anything about computers, and
> now we discover that you are a criminal also.....
>
> Cheers,
>
> John B.
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


And what crime would that be, wasting my time with the likes of you?
--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
the lies of alias!

On 6/8/2010 7:38 AM, Alias wrote:
> John B. slocomb wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:23:42 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:00:38 +0200, Alias
>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:09 +0200, Alias
>>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/07/2010 09:26 AM, John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:53:07 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> snipped
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You didn't catch me lying and I do know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is very strange. Most people when accused of lying
>>>>>>>>>> immediately come
>>>>>>>>>> back with pages of proof that they DID know what they were
>>>>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>>>>> about...But you don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All it takes is doing it and being attentive. Do you have an
>>>>>>>>> attention
>>>>>>>>> span problem?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It can only be assumed that you were caught lying again and
>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>> produce proof of your statement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, but I did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems to be happening more and more these days, doesn't it
>>>>>>>>>> alias?
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With you, yes. You've lied with almost every one of your posts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hardly lies. I can provide evidence for nearly everything I write.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you can't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You on the other hand never seem to produce any evidence that
>>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>> not lying. You simply cone back with some 3 rd year school yard
>>>>>>>> taunt
>>>>>>>> -"yada, yada, yada, your mother wears army boots"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Projecting will get you nowhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is strange, you know, few people like to be known as a liar and
>>>>>>>> readily produce some verification for their statements when
>>>>>>>> challenged. You however, never do. You just shout school boy
>>>>>>>> insults.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Projecting will get you nowhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In short alias, the masked and anymous invalid, you appear to be
>>>>>>>> nothing but a lying fool. Lies as you can never verify any of your
>>>>>>>> statements and foolish for thinking anyone believes you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet, you can't cite one single lie, liar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your dreams. But more to the point you have never furnished any
>>>>>> even quasi evidence to indicate that anything you have said is even
>>>>>> partially the truth.. In truth, you are just a common garden variety
>>>>>> liar and when someone accuses you of lying you reply with another
>>>>>> childish response as above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short you are just an every day bull-shitter. If you were a little
>>>>>> inventive or able to concoct a reasonably interesting story it would
>>>>>> be a whole different story - we could read you for entertainment. But
>>>>>> you aren't capable of that. You just continue to blather on and
>>>>>> on. As
>>>>>> the Supreme court describes it you are pornography - you have no
>>>>>> social redeeming qualities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you can't cite one single lie. All you can do is hurl lying
>>>>> insults.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have quoted your lies to the point where it becomes ridiculous and
>>>> time after time you avoid replying by changing the subject.
>>>
>>> No lie cited.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have challenged you in another message to prove your statement that
>>>> Ubuntu "tells you" how fast it transfer a file.
>>>
>>> No lie cited. Only a blind, drooling idiot couldn't see it if he or she
>>> had installed Ubuntu.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So far you have avoided the challenge by changing the subject. Please
>>>> note that the following definitions of "tell" are the commonly used
>>>> ones.(right out of a Linux dictionary)
>>>>
>>>> 1. express in words
>>>> 2. let something be known
>>>> 3. narrate or give a detailed account of
>>>>
>>>> So either get with the program or admit that you are a liar.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> John B.
>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>
>>> Ubuntu will tell you the speed as it's transferring the file. It's
>>> usually between 80 and 100 MB/sec.
>>>
>>> Soooooooo, no lies cited. Everyone act really surprised.

>>
>> Ah, but you did lie.
>>
>> You said that Ubuntu told you how fast it copied a file.

>
> It does.
>
>> You didn't
>> say that Ubuntu told you how fast your network was running,,, did
>> you?.

>
> Not relevant.
>
>> So, as I have posted in another thread, the question is whether
>> you don't know the difference between coping a file and transferring
>> over a network, or whether you were just lying about what Ubuntu can
>> do?

>
> I wasn't discussing networks at all. You are trying to use that to
> weasel out of the fact that Ubuntu will tell you the transfer speed when
> you copy and paste something.
>
>>
>> I think that votes will be about equal, with perhaps a bit larger
>> emphasis on the lying side.

>
> You and think is an oxymoron.
>
>>
>> So obviously, unless you are lying yet again, you, a complete boob
>> when it comes to computers, are charging people to work on their
>> computer.... That is fraud, isn't it?

>
> No lies except, of course, in your twisted imagination.
>

Here they are. Care to defend them?

#1 lie from alias is:
pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
topic".

#2 lie from alias is:
...."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam".

#3 lie from alias is::
...."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu bullshit".

#4 lie from alias is:
...."I make $14,000 per week".

#5 lie from alias is:
...."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division".

#6 lie from alias is:...
I am not a liar"!

Now post your lying response here *SPORT* --->
 
T

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Flightless Bird
On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>

<snipped>
>>
>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>> Take more drugs.

>
> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>
> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>


iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.
 
B

Bill Baka

Flightless Bird
On 06/09/2010 09:36 AM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
> On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
>> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>

> <snipped>
>>>
>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>> Take more drugs.

>>
>> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>>
>> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>>

>
> iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
> Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
> with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.


I'm using Linux (ubuntu) mostly because my XP and Windows 7 don't like
to play nice with each other. I just had a software update in the
background and didn't have to stop and reboot like windows usually
wants. I have to have windows for my HP scanner with no linux support or
any support of any kind, plus I am doing some stuff with the patent
office and their software assumes you have windows (last time I checked).
For disk to disk file transfers I tried both XP (NTFS) and Linux (EXT4)
and found that the linux was about twice as fast as windows using the
same drives but different partitions.
I still like windows since I get shareware updates from a few of my
magazines and find some nifty play-ware.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/9/2010 2:12 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
> On 06/09/2010 09:36 AM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
> Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
>> On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>

>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>>> Take more drugs.
>>>
>>> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>>>
>>> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>>>

>>
>> iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
>> Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
>> with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.

>
> I'm using Linux (ubuntu) mostly because my XP and Windows 7 don't like
> to play nice with each other.


Then you don't know what you're doing.

I just had a software update in the
> background and didn't have to stop and reboot like windows usually
> wants.


Windows Vista/7 does not always need to be rebooted after an update,
like XP does. But who really give a shit about a reboot.

I have to have windows for my HP scanner with no linux support or
> any support of any kind, plus I am doing some stuff with the patent
> office and their software assumes you have windows (last time I checked).
> For disk to disk file transfers I tried both XP (NTFS) and Linux (EXT4)
> and found that the linux was about twice as fast as windows using the
> same drives but different partitions.


Twice as fast? I seriously doubt that.

> I still like windows since I get shareware updates from a few of my
> magazines and find some nifty play-ware.


So why are you here if you so dislike Windows and think linux is so much
better?
 
J

John B. slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:39:11 -0700, Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote:

>On 6/9/2010 2:12 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
>> On 06/09/2010 09:36 AM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
>> Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>>>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>>>> Take more drugs.
>>>>
>>>> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>>>>
>>>> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>>>>
>>>
>>> iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
>>> Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
>>> with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.

>>
>> I'm using Linux (ubuntu) mostly because my XP and Windows 7 don't like
>> to play nice with each other.

>
>Then you don't know what you're doing.
>
> I just had a software update in the
>> background and didn't have to stop and reboot like windows usually
>> wants.

>
>Windows Vista/7 does not always need to be rebooted after an update,
>like XP does. But who really give a shit about a reboot.
>
> I have to have windows for my HP scanner with no linux support or
>> any support of any kind, plus I am doing some stuff with the patent
>> office and their software assumes you have windows (last time I checked).
>> For disk to disk file transfers I tried both XP (NTFS) and Linux (EXT4)
>> and found that the linux was about twice as fast as windows using the
>> same drives but different partitions.

>
>Twice as fast? I seriously doubt that.
>
>> I still like windows since I get shareware updates from a few of my
>> magazines and find some nifty play-ware.

>
>So why are you here if you so dislike Windows and think linux is so much
>better?



Hmmmm... there was a "Bill Baka" over in the Ubuntu group that
slanders Ubuntu and extols Windows.

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
C

Canuck57

Flightless Bird
On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>
> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast

>>
>>
>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>
>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.

>
> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!


Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.

--
Liberalism - a disease of envy, greed, entitlement and KAOS.
 
C

Canuck57

Flightless Bird
On 04/06/2010 9:42 AM, Alias wrote:
> Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hub6ml$j6j$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hub63o$gkk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On 06/04/2010 04:35 PM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard
>>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000
>>>>>>>> RPM or
>>>>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files
>>>>>>> disk
>>>>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just another example of how Linux is superior to Windows but
>>>>> you're too fucking stupid to see that.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> So if Linux is so superior to Windows then why doesn't everyone ditch
>>>> Windows and move to Linux?
>>>
>>> Because most people believe the FUD. You're a prime example.
>>>
>>>> I'll tell you why. You are lying again. Linux
>>>> is NOT superior and never will be superior. Granted, copying files may
>>>> be faster but that isn't why people use their computers. Ooooops.
>>>
>>> It's one of the reasons and, unlike Windows, Linux tells you the
>>> transfer speed. Another is surfing the web which is safer with Linux.
>>> Yet another is email which is safer with Linux. Another is boot time
>>> which is much quicker with Linux. Another is cost which is far less
>>> with Linux. Another is the fact that you can have multiple desktops
>>> with Linux and you can't with Windows. Another is that Linux burns CDs
>>> and DVDs much quicker and better than Windows. About the only thing
>>> Windows has going for it is using it for gaming.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>> anytime soon.

>
> Oh, yes it is. You don't like it but that's your red wagon, not mine,
> chum.\
>
>> Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>> Take more drugs.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Three years ago, no Ubuntu anywhere. Now it's in the stores and on
> Dell's web site. You're wrong, plain and simple.


And that does not include encroachment by the Macs.

How many are picking iPads over Win7 looser laptops should be a hint
where MS is going.
--
Liberalism - a disease of envy, greed, entitlement and KAOS.
 
B

Bill Baka

Flightless Bird
On 06/09/2010 02:39 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 6/9/2010 2:12 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
>> On 06/09/2010 09:36 AM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
>> Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>>>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>>>> Take more drugs.
>>>>
>>>> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>>>>
>>>> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>>>>
>>>
>>> iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
>>> Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
>>> with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.

>>
>> I'm using Linux (ubuntu) mostly because my XP and Windows 7 don't like
>> to play nice with each other.

>
> Then you don't know what you're doing.


Sure I don't. I have been using them since the 70's when I took an
acoustic modem terminal home and got my wife hooked on playing a Star
Trek game against the mainframe at work.
>
> I just had a software update in the
>> background and didn't have to stop and reboot like windows usually
>> wants.

>
> Windows Vista/7 does not always need to be rebooted after an update,
> like XP does. But who really give a shit about a reboot.


Me, if I am doing something else in a different window.
>
> I have to have windows for my HP scanner with no linux support or
>> any support of any kind, plus I am doing some stuff with the patent
>> office and their software assumes you have windows (last time I checked).
>> For disk to disk file transfers I tried both XP (NTFS) and Linux (EXT4)
>> and found that the linux was about twice as fast as windows using the
>> same drives but different partitions.

>
> Twice as fast? I seriously doubt that.


Noticeably faster, but I admit to having the NTFS drives compressed.
>
>> I still like windows since I get shareware updates from a few of my
>> magazines and find some nifty play-ware.

>
> So why are you here if you so dislike Windows and think linux is so much
> better?
>

I'm a system agnostic so I don't really care as long as it gets the job
done. I still have a small section devoted to DOS since there are some
programs that never made it to windows. The Borland C++ IDE and compiler
are my preferred poison when it comes to doing a quick program and if it
works I can transfer the source code to windows and make it pretty.
I don't even attempt to program in Linux.
Clear now?
Bill Baka
 
B

Bill Baka

Flightless Bird
On 06/09/2010 06:36 PM, John B. slocomb wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:39:11 -0700, Frank<fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>
>> On 6/9/2010 2:12 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
>>> On 06/09/2010 09:36 AM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
>>> Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
>>>> On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>>>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>>>>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>>>>> Take more drugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
>>>> Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
>>>> with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.
>>>
>>> I'm using Linux (ubuntu) mostly because my XP and Windows 7 don't like
>>> to play nice with each other.

>>
>> Then you don't know what you're doing.
>>
>> I just had a software update in the
>>> background and didn't have to stop and reboot like windows usually
>>> wants.

>>
>> Windows Vista/7 does not always need to be rebooted after an update,
>> like XP does. But who really give a shit about a reboot.
>>
>> I have to have windows for my HP scanner with no linux support or
>>> any support of any kind, plus I am doing some stuff with the patent
>>> office and their software assumes you have windows (last time I checked).
>>> For disk to disk file transfers I tried both XP (NTFS) and Linux (EXT4)
>>> and found that the linux was about twice as fast as windows using the
>>> same drives but different partitions.

>>
>> Twice as fast? I seriously doubt that.
>>
>>> I still like windows since I get shareware updates from a few of my
>>> magazines and find some nifty play-ware.

>>
>> So why are you here if you so dislike Windows and think linux is so much
>> better?

>
>
> Hmmmm... there was a "Bill Baka" over in the Ubuntu group that
> slanders Ubuntu and extols Windows.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John B.
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


I've never slandered Ubuntu nor extolled windows. I use both, and DOS
too. I gave up on the Ubuntu group thanks to Dan C. He seems to want to
make a career out of slandering me. The linux is fun to play with and I
often use it because there are relatively few viruses that can affect
it. It's just a computer, not my sex partner.
Just for a laugh, I was at my doctors office the other day and they
called for William Baka, and another guy stood up. WTF? His name was
spelled Baca, but they both pronounce the same, and we had the same
doctor. What are the odds on that?
Smile, it doesn't hurt.
Bill Baka
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/9/2010 6:53 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
> On 04/06/2010 9:42 AM, Alias wrote:
>> Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>>> news:hub6ml$j6j$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hub63o$gkk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> On 06/04/2010 04:35 PM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard
>>>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000
>>>>>>>>> RPM or
>>>>>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files
>>>>>>>> disk
>>>>>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>>>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>>>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just another example of how Linux is superior to Windows but
>>>>>> you're too fucking stupid to see that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> So if Linux is so superior to Windows then why doesn't everyone ditch
>>>>> Windows and move to Linux?
>>>>
>>>> Because most people believe the FUD. You're a prime example.
>>>>
>>>>> I'll tell you why. You are lying again. Linux
>>>>> is NOT superior and never will be superior. Granted, copying files may
>>>>> be faster but that isn't why people use their computers. Ooooops.
>>>>
>>>> It's one of the reasons and, unlike Windows, Linux tells you the
>>>> transfer speed. Another is surfing the web which is safer with Linux.
>>>> Yet another is email which is safer with Linux. Another is boot time
>>>> which is much quicker with Linux. Another is cost which is far less
>>>> with Linux. Another is the fact that you can have multiple desktops
>>>> with Linux and you can't with Windows. Another is that Linux burns CDs
>>>> and DVDs much quicker and better than Windows. About the only thing
>>>> Windows has going for it is using it for gaming.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>> anytime soon.

>>
>> Oh, yes it is. You don't like it but that's your red wagon, not mine,
>> chum.\
>>
>>> Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>> Take more drugs.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Three years ago, no Ubuntu anywhere. Now it's in the stores and on
>> Dell's web site. You're wrong, plain and simple.

>
> And that does not include encroachment by the Macs.
>
> How many are picking iPads over Win7 looser laptops should be a hint
> where MS is going.


Hint: You're stupid. iPads are not a replacement for laptops, but only
an MS hating POS like would conjure up such a bullshit statement.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/9/2010 6:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>
>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.

>>
>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!

>
> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>

Translation: canook doesn't have Windows so he forced to use that POS
toy os, up-yr-fucking-butt-too.
Oops!
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
On 06/10/2010 03:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>
>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.

>>
>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!

>
> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>


I back up to external hard drives, none of which are running an OS.

--
Alias
 
J

John B. slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:41:13 +0200, Alias
<aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:

>On 06/10/2010 03:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
>> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Canuck57" <Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>
>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>
>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!

>>
>> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>>

>
>I back up to external hard drives, none of which are running an OS.



Not to pick at you but why not just install another internal drive?

Over here the laptop drives (that's what they call 'em) are
considerably more expensive then a full sized sata drive.

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
J

John B. slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:42:15 -0700, Bill Baka <bbaka@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 06/09/2010 06:36 PM, John B. slocomb wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:39:11 -0700, Frank<fb@amk.cmo> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2010 2:12 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> On 06/09/2010 09:36 AM, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster
>>>> Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
>>>>> On 6/4/2010 7:07 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/06/2010 9:40 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>> <snipped>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that's the case, then everyone would be ditching Windows and moving
>>>>>>> to Linux. Guess what hotshit? It isn't happening and will not happen
>>>>>>> anytime soon. Get over it. Find something else to do with your time.
>>>>>>> Take more drugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many are ditching MS Windows for OSX and iPads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a time MS only had a 12% market share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> iPads suck too. They are even more locked down and less open than
>>>>> Windows Pcs. And iTunes has hellacious bloat as well. I don't disagree
>>>>> with you, but I think that windows/MS is the lesser of 2 evils here.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Linux (ubuntu) mostly because my XP and Windows 7 don't like
>>>> to play nice with each other.
>>>
>>> Then you don't know what you're doing.
>>>
>>> I just had a software update in the
>>>> background and didn't have to stop and reboot like windows usually
>>>> wants.
>>>
>>> Windows Vista/7 does not always need to be rebooted after an update,
>>> like XP does. But who really give a shit about a reboot.
>>>
>>> I have to have windows for my HP scanner with no linux support or
>>>> any support of any kind, plus I am doing some stuff with the patent
>>>> office and their software assumes you have windows (last time I checked).
>>>> For disk to disk file transfers I tried both XP (NTFS) and Linux (EXT4)
>>>> and found that the linux was about twice as fast as windows using the
>>>> same drives but different partitions.
>>>
>>> Twice as fast? I seriously doubt that.
>>>
>>>> I still like windows since I get shareware updates from a few of my
>>>> magazines and find some nifty play-ware.
>>>
>>> So why are you here if you so dislike Windows and think linux is so much
>>> better?

>>
>>
>> Hmmmm... there was a "Bill Baka" over in the Ubuntu group that
>> slanders Ubuntu and extols Windows.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>I've never slandered Ubuntu nor extolled windows. I use both, and DOS
>too. I gave up on the Ubuntu group thanks to Dan C. He seems to want to
>make a career out of slandering me. The linux is fun to play with and I
>often use it because there are relatively few viruses that can affect
>it. It's just a computer, not my sex partner.
>Just for a laugh, I was at my doctors office the other day and they
>called for William Baka, and another guy stood up. WTF? His name was
>spelled Baca, but they both pronounce the same, and we had the same
>doctor. What are the odds on that?
>Smile, it doesn't hurt.
>Bill Baka



I've always wondered about DanC. Occasionally I read someone saying
that he used to write some good information but all I have ever seen
him write is "Windroid".

But the whole group is pretty much a dead end. I originally started
using them because I had some problems with a laptop and I got a lot
of interrogation about this and that and a lot of people that actually
argued about where an application looked for a config file when the
application itself would pop up an error message saying that it
couldn't find the file in /XXX.. I gave up on them as I finally
decided that as an overall assessment - they just didn't know.

"Baka" by the way means crazy in Japanese :)

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. slocomb wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:41:13 +0200, Alias
> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/10/2010 03:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>>
>>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!
>>>
>>> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>>>

>>
>> I back up to external hard drives, none of which are running an OS.

>
>
> Not to pick at you


Your favorite hobby.

> but why not just install another internal drive?


Are you serious?

> Over here the laptop drives (that's what they call 'em) are
> considerably more expensive then a full sized sata drive.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John B.
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


I use "full size" SATA drives in external enclosures. I have a few PATA
drives in external enclosures as well.

--
Alias
 
J

John B. slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:12:58 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. slocomb wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:41:13 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/10/2010 03:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>>>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I back up to external hard drives, none of which are running an OS.

>>
>>
>> Not to pick at you

>
>Your favorite hobby.
>
>> but why not just install another internal drive?

>
>Are you serious?


How so? It isn't rocket science, just four screws.
>
>> Over here the laptop drives (that's what they call 'em) are
>> considerably more expensive then a full sized sata drive.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>I use "full size" SATA drives in external enclosures. I have a few PATA
>drives in external enclosures as well.



If you are accessing the exterior drives with a USB connection they
certainly run slowly.
Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. slocomb wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:12:58 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:41:13 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/10/2010 03:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>>>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>>>>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I back up to external hard drives, none of which are running an OS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not to pick at you

>>
>> Your favorite hobby.
>>
>>> but why not just install another internal drive?

>>
>> Are you serious?

>
> How so? It isn't rocket science, just four screws.
>>
>>> Over here the laptop drives (that's what they call 'em) are
>>> considerably more expensive then a full sized sata drive.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John B.
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>>
>> I use "full size" SATA drives in external enclosures. I have a few PATA
>> drives in external enclosures as well.

>
>
> If you are accessing the exterior drives with a USB connection they
> certainly run slowly.
> Cheers,
>
> John B.
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


I don't have many large files that aren't already backed up and when I
do, it's no biggie to temporarily put one of the external drives in as a
slave. I do plan to get me an e-SATA external drive. How fast does the
USB connection go when using Ubuntu, you ask? Glad you asked: 17-18
MB/sec. I don't know with Windows because it only tells you the
"estimated time" which is unreliable.

--
Alias
 
J

John B. slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:41:36 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. slocomb wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:12:58 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. slocomb wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:41:13 +0200, Alias
>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/10/2010 03:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/06/2010 8:35 AM, Epsom F. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Canuck57"<Canuck57@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:KjYNn.39687$Ak3.26286@newsfe16.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 03/06/2010 1:19 PM, Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doing that is playing with fire. Leave it be. Of you want a hard drive
>>>>>>>>> that is fast then next time purchase one that can run at 15,000 RPM or
>>>>>>>>> plus. Costly but extremely fast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, Vista/Win7 is the slowest OSes out there to copy files disk
>>>>>>>> to disk or disk to net or net to disk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Run Solaris, Linux (any version), Open/Free or Net-BSD and they all
>>>>>>>> consistantly run 3 to 10 times faster than Vista/Win7 for copy
>>>>>>>> operations, especially on large files such as 4gb media files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you already have Windows 7 or Vista, who the hell would want to run
>>>>>>> that crappy Linux just to copy files? LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't trust MS Windows. Always backup to a UNIX/Linux box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I back up to external hard drives, none of which are running an OS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not to pick at you
>>>
>>> Your favorite hobby.
>>>
>>>> but why not just install another internal drive?
>>>
>>> Are you serious?

>>
>> How so? It isn't rocket science, just four screws.
>>>
>>>> Over here the laptop drives (that's what they call 'em) are
>>>> considerably more expensive then a full sized sata drive.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> John B.
>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>
>>> I use "full size" SATA drives in external enclosures. I have a few PATA
>>> drives in external enclosures as well.

>>
>>
>> If you are accessing the exterior drives with a USB connection they
>> certainly run slowly.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>I don't have many large files that aren't already backed up and when I
>do, it's no biggie to temporarily put one of the external drives in as a
>slave. I do plan to get me an e-SATA external drive. How fast does the
>USB connection go when using Ubuntu, you ask? Glad you asked: 17-18
>MB/sec. I don't know with Windows because it only tells you the
>"estimated time" which is unreliable.



If you are backing up separate files it probably doesn't make much
difference how you store them. I have backups schedules daily and just
back up entire directories , or partitions which would entail
remembering to plug in the USB drive. It is easier to just set things
up to back up to an internal disk and forget about it.

Cheers,

John B.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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