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Sophos Says IE8 IS Affected

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Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>
> From the article:
>
> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."
>

Yawn.
 
C

Conor

Flightless Bird
In article <hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>
> From the article:
>
> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."


If you dislike Windows so much, why are you posting/x-posting to a
Windows group?

--
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Conor wrote:

> In article <hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
>> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."

>
> If you dislike Windows so much, why are you posting/x-posting to a
> Windows group?
>


Because T-Bird is the only useful program in Linux for him.
And solitaire looks like crap in gnome.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
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RonB

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:48:01 +0000, Conor wrote:

> In article <hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the
>> instructions on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the
>> internet."

>
> If you dislike Windows so much, why are you posting/x-posting to a
> Windows group?


It takes two to crosspost -- especially when threads have been going on
for as long as couple of these have. I know I didn't start it -- and I'm
pretty "alias" didn't either.

The question I have is why are WinTrolls who infest COLA so damned
interested in Linux?

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
RonB wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:48:01 +0000, Conor wrote:
>
>> In article <hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>>
>>> From the article:
>>>
>>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the
>>> instructions on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the
>>> internet."

>> If you dislike Windows so much, why are you posting/x-posting to a
>> Windows group?

>
> It takes two to crosspost -- especially when threads have been going on
> for as long as couple of these have. I know I didn't start it -- and I'm
> pretty "alias" didn't either.


alias, aka cody started it.
>
> The question I have is why are WinTrolls who infest COLA so damned
> interested in Linux?
>
 
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Canuck57

Flightless Bird
On 16/01/2010 4:49 PM, Alias wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>
> From the article:
>
> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."


It is:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10435232-245.html

IE is backdooring companies all over, and attackers are motivated to
reap the rewards of intellectual property collection. Which usually
means more exploits coming.

I though net versions of IE were supposed to be immune to this crap?
Using Vista / Win 7 chroot type jails for the code. Guess it was just
more BS.

And Google using IE instead of Chrome...priceless. Just like many a
Microsoft use Firefox.
 
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NY Teacher

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>
> From the article:
>
> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only did
> the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions on
> how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."
>
> --
> Alias



We get it, you don't like Microsoft. Here's an idea for you...ue something
else. And shut up.


NYT
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Canuck57 wrote:
> On 16/01/2010 4:49 PM, Alias wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
>> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."

>
> It is:
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10435232-245.html
>
> IE is backdooring companies all over, and attackers are motivated to
> reap the rewards of intellectual property collection. Which usually
> means more exploits coming.
>
> I though net versions of IE were supposed to be immune to this crap?
> Using Vista / Win 7 chroot type jails for the code. Guess it was just
> more BS.
>
> And Google using IE instead of Chrome...priceless. Just like many a
> Microsoft use Firefox.
>


"Internet Explorer was one of the vectors"

So who were the other "vectors"?

...."To date, Microsoft has not seen widespread customer impact, rather
only targeted and limited attacks exploiting IE 6,"

So what were the IT's of these companies doing?

Obviously nothing more than collecting a paycheck.

...."Microsoft said the vulnerability in IE exists as an invalid pointer
reference and that it could allow an attacker to take control of a
computer if the target were duped into clicking on a link in an e-mail
or an instant message that led to a Web site hosting malware. "It could
also be possible to display specially crafted Web content using banner
advertisements or other methods to deliver Web content to affected
systems," Microsoft said in the statement."

First thing I'd is fire the IT sons-of-bitches who didn't properly
"lock-down" the companies computers/web browsers.
Then I'd want to know WTF are we still using IE6!
 
T

thanatoid

Flightless Bird
"NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in
news:hits2h$b02$1@news.eternal-september.org:

<SNIP>

> We get it, you don't like Microsoft. Here's an idea for
> you...ue something else. And shut up.


Great spelling, teach! Never mind the "ue", didn't anyone ever
tell you that since typewriters were replaced by computers, two
spaces after a period are no longer the norm? And there was
ALWAYS a space before ANYTHING following "..."

SIGH.


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:

>"Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
>on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."



IE is a piece of crap, anyway - Firefox is clearly better. The
security issues are only an extra reason not to use IE. That doesn't
mean the entire *operating system* isn't worth using, though. MS
hasn't punished me for ignoring IE on my machine. In fact, they have
a WGA plugin for Firefox, so I can get their "Genuine Windows only"
downloads with it.

--
Joel Crump
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Conor wrote:
> In article <hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org>, Alias says...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
>> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."

>
> If you dislike Windows so much, why are you posting/x-posting to a
> Windows group?
>


Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
anyone on hate, sonny.

--
Alias
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
NY Teacher wrote:
> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only did
>> the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions on
>> how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."
>>
>> --
>> Alias

>
>
> We get it, you don't like Microsoft.


No, you don't get it. It's a warning and if you use Internet Explorer,
you should take heed.

> Here's an idea for you...ue something
> else. And shut up.
>
>
> NYT
>
>


You're a teacher? What do you teach, physical education?

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Joel wrote:
> Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
>> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."

>
>
> IE is a piece of crap, anyway - Firefox is clearly better. The
> security issues are only an extra reason not to use IE. That doesn't
> mean the entire *operating system* isn't worth using, though. MS
> hasn't punished me for ignoring IE on my machine. In fact, they have
> a WGA plugin for Firefox, so I can get their "Genuine Windows only"
> downloads with it.
>


My goodness, here's someone who actually understood the warning!

--
Alias
 
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Roland Schweiger

Flightless Bird
"Alias"
> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus attacks
> as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per your
> signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing anyone on
> hate, sonny.


Because

1.
Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.

2.
A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
whatsoever.
If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
OPERATING SYSTEM.

3.
The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they are
safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the feeling
here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good and so easy to
use and integrate.
full stop.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Roland Schweiger wrote:
> "Alias"
>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
>> your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
>> anyone on hate, sonny.

>
> Because
>
> 1.
> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.
>
> 2.
> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
> whatsoever.
> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
> OPERATING SYSTEM.
>
> 3.
> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the
> feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good
> and so easy to use and integrate.
> full stop.
>


More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
have that post to news groups.

--
Alias
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>> "Alias"
>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
>>> your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
>>> anyone on hate, sonny.

>>
>> Because
>>
>> 1.
>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.
>>
>> 2.
>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
>> whatsoever.
>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
>> OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>
>> 3.
>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the
>> feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good
>> and so easy to use and integrate.
>> full stop.
>>

>
> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
> have that post to news groups.
>


I'm running IE8.
Can you post how we can test this infection?
I'd like to try it out.

--

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
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DanS

Flightless Bird
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3vf5l599e9vhqudguvddqcnqhm6ed050r7@4ax.com:

> Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>>did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the

instructions
>>on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."

>
>
> IE is a piece of crap, anyway - Firefox is clearly better. The
> security issues are only an extra reason not to use IE. That doesn't
> mean the entire *operating system* isn't worth using, though. MS
> hasn't punished me for ignoring IE on my machine. In fact, they have
> a WGA plugin for Firefox, so I can get their "Genuine Windows only"
> downloads with it.


But you still use the IE HTML engine for.......

......reading .chm help files.
......using MS e-mail programs such as Windows Mail or Outlook.
......MS Help & Support Center.
......many third-party programs use the IE engine as well, like
QuickBooks, or AutoCAD, they both show limited functionality browser
windows.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>> "Alias"
>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you
>>> per your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be
>>> lecturing anyone on hate, sonny.

>>
>> Because
>>
>> 1.
>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at
>> all.
>>
>> 2.
>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform
>> or whatsoever.
>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for
>> ANY OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>
>> 3.
>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get
>> the feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so
>> good and so easy to use and integrate.
>> full stop.
>>

>
> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
> have that post to news groups.
>



I just deactivated Internet Explorer 8 in my new Windows 7
computer. Easy to do, and I never use it anyway. This should
prevent it from starting up on its own, as it likes to do from
time to time. Everything I've read on the Net says that Internet
Explorer is more dangerous than other browsers, simply because so
much malware is designed to exploit IE.

-Al-
 
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NY Teacher

Flightless Bird
"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9D02EDA3FC284thanexit@188.40.43.245...
> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in
> news:hits2h$b02$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft. Here's an idea for
>> you...ue something else. And shut up.

>
> Great spelling, teach! Never mind the "ue", didn't anyone ever
> tell you that since typewriters were replaced by computers, two
> spaces after a period are no longer the norm? And there was
> ALWAYS a space before ANYTHING following "..."
>
> SIGH.


Thanks for the information. It amazes me that people think teachers need to
be "on" 24-7-365, always spelling everything correctly and always using the
latest in typing norms, etc. Hey asshole, it is my day off and it is not
worth my time to proofread a simple Usenet post.

The "ue" and the missing space after the ellipsis were simple typos. No one
should ever be criticized for a typo except for formal reports.

Regarding the double space, this comes straight from:
http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.htm

"The Bottomline: Professional typesetters, designers, and desktop publishers
should use one space only. Save the double spaces for typewriting, email,
term papers (if prescribed by the style guide you are using), or personal
correspondence. For everyone else, do whatever makes you feel good."

Seems like "the norm" you follow isn't a "norm" for this forum after all.

Now, do you want to engage in a conversation about something that really
matters, or are you the kind of person who only gets his/her rocks off by
blindly criticizing others?

NYT
 
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