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So Soon ?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Pulse, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Pulse

    Pulse Flightless Bird

    According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on us as
    soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later: July 2012.

    To be honest, both dates - but especially Windows 8's - seem, well, too
    soon.

    I'm still waiting for the publishing of Russinovich's Windows Internals 6th
    ed. which is supposed to be covering Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2.
    When I do get it, it will take me to sometime in 2011 to get it read! Then
    it's an all new "mind blowing" (as Microsoft puts it) version that I have to
    learn about? Why bother, eh?

    It seems like too much too soon for me. I feel that way. I thought NT was a
    mature product and didn't need constant changing.

    I know Microsoft can't rest on its laurels, but then again can't they get
    all "excited" about some other product in their lineup for a while? Because
    if we start having heart attacks, Microsoft, new computers won't be the
    priority.

    Instead, let's hear it for building up a Windows 7 ecosystem.
     
  2. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Pulse wrote:
    > According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on
    > us as soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later:
    > July 2012.
    >
    > To be honest, both dates - but especially Windows 8's - seem, well, too
    > soon.
    >
    > I'm still waiting for the publishing of Russinovich's Windows Internals
    > 6th ed. which is supposed to be covering Windows 7 and Windows Server
    > 2008 R2. When I do get it, it will take me to sometime in 2011 to get it
    > read! Then it's an all new "mind blowing" (as Microsoft puts it) version
    > that I have to learn about? Why bother, eh?
    >
    > It seems like too much too soon for me. I feel that way. I thought NT
    > was a mature product and didn't need constant changing.
    >
    > I know Microsoft can't rest on its laurels, but then again can't they
    > get all "excited" about some other product in their lineup for a while?
    > Because if we start having heart attacks, Microsoft, new computers won't
    > be the priority.
    >
    > Instead, let's hear it for building up a Windows 7 ecosystem.


    Trust me, they don't care what their paying customers think. WGA and WAT
    are proof of that. That said, I think you'll be one of the first marks
    to get in line for Windows 8, right behind Frank.

    --
    Alias
     
  3. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
    news:hm894i$it4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Pulse wrote:
    >> According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on us
    >> as soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later: July
    >> 2012.
    >>
    >> To be honest, both dates - but especially Windows 8's - seem, well, too
    >> soon.
    >>
    >> I'm still waiting for the publishing of Russinovich's Windows Internals
    >> 6th ed. which is supposed to be covering Windows 7 and Windows Server
    >> 2008 R2. When I do get it, it will take me to sometime in 2011 to get it
    >> read! Then it's an all new "mind blowing" (as Microsoft puts it) version
    >> that I have to learn about? Why bother, eh?
    >>
    >> It seems like too much too soon for me. I feel that way. I thought NT was
    >> a mature product and didn't need constant changing.
    >>
    >> I know Microsoft can't rest on its laurels, but then again can't they get
    >> all "excited" about some other product in their lineup for a while?
    >> Because if we start having heart attacks, Microsoft, new computers won't
    >> be the priority.
    >>
    >> Instead, let's hear it for building up a Windows 7 ecosystem.

    >
    > Trust me, they don't care what their paying customers think. WGA and WAT
    > are proof of that. That said, I think you'll be one of the first marks to
    > get in line for Windows 8, right behind Frank.
    >
    > --
    > Alias


    By the way, you said you own a copy of Vista and Windows 7 so I am sure you
    will be one of those "marks" who gets in line for Windows 8. Ubuntu shoves
    out an updated version of their INFERIOR OS every 6 months to try and sucker
    people to use their shitty software. Most people are too smart for that and
    once they install Ubuntu, they realize how crappy it is and remove it off
    their computers with hours or a couple of days.
     
  4. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 2/25/2010 7:04 PM, Pulse wrote:
    > According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on
    > us as soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later:
    > July 2012.
    >
    > To be honest, both dates - but especially Windows 8's - seem, well, too
    > soon.
    >
    > I'm still waiting for the publishing of Russinovich's Windows Internals
    > 6th ed. which is supposed to be covering Windows 7 and Windows Server
    > 2008 R2. When I do get it, it will take me to sometime in 2011 to get it
    > read! Then it's an all new "mind blowing" (as Microsoft puts it) version
    > that I have to learn about? Why bother, eh?
    >
    > It seems like too much too soon for me. I feel that way. I thought NT
    > was a mature product and didn't need constant changing.
    >
    > I know Microsoft can't rest on its laurels, but then again can't they
    > get all "excited" about some other product in their lineup for a while?
    > Because if we start having heart attacks, Microsoft, new computers won't
    > be the priority.
    >
    > Instead, let's hear it for building up a Windows 7 ecosystem.


    Three years (36 months) is a release cycle MS seems to always aim for.
    Of course up-yr-fucking-butt-too does a release every six months, but
    then again, its a worthless POS toy os for broke losers like alias and
    his butt-buddies.
     
  5. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >
    >
    > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
    > news:hm894i$it4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Pulse wrote:
    >>> According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted
    >>> on us as soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year
    >>> later: July 2012.
    >>>
    >>> To be honest, both dates - but especially Windows 8's - seem, well,
    >>> too soon.
    >>>
    >>> I'm still waiting for the publishing of Russinovich's Windows
    >>> Internals 6th ed. which is supposed to be covering Windows 7 and
    >>> Windows Server 2008 R2. When I do get it, it will take me to sometime
    >>> in 2011 to get it read! Then it's an all new "mind blowing" (as
    >>> Microsoft puts it) version that I have to learn about? Why bother, eh?
    >>>
    >>> It seems like too much too soon for me. I feel that way. I thought NT
    >>> was a mature product and didn't need constant changing.
    >>>
    >>> I know Microsoft can't rest on its laurels, but then again can't they
    >>> get all "excited" about some other product in their lineup for a
    >>> while? Because if we start having heart attacks, Microsoft, new
    >>> computers won't be the priority.
    >>>
    >>> Instead, let's hear it for building up a Windows 7 ecosystem.

    >>
    >> Trust me, they don't care what their paying customers think. WGA and
    >> WAT are proof of that. That said, I think you'll be one of the first
    >> marks to get in line for Windows 8, right behind Frank.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Alias

    >
    > By the way, you said you own a copy of Vista and Windows 7 so I am sure
    > you will be one of those "marks" who gets in line for Windows 8.


    Yes, I will need to be able to support it but I won't buy it for the
    same reasons Frank or you will.

    > Ubuntu
    > shoves out an updated version of their INFERIOR OS every 6 months to try
    > and sucker people to use their shitty software.


    Um, LTS is NOT every six months but every TWO YEARS.

    > Most people are too
    > smart for that and once they install Ubuntu, they realize how crappy it
    > is and remove it off their computers with hours or a couple of days.


    LIAR:

    From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)

    "Reception

    In an August 2007 survey of 38,500 visitors on DesktopLinux.com, Ubuntu
    was the most popular distribution with 30.3% of respondents claiming to
    use it.[9]

    In January 2009, the New York Times reported that Ubuntu had over ten
    million users and in June 2009 ZDNet reported, "Worldwide, there are 13
    million active Ubuntu users with use growing faster than any other
    distribution."[73][74]

    Ubuntu was awarded the Reader Award for best Linux distribution at the
    2005 LinuxWorld Conference and Expo in London,[75] has been favorably
    reviewed in online and print publications,[76][77][78] and has won
    InfoWorld's 2007 Bossie Award for Best Open Source Client OS.[79]

    Jamie Hyneman, co-host of the television series Mythbusters, has
    advocated Linux, specifically giving the example of Ubuntu, as an
    alternative to proprietary software, citing software bloat as a major
    hurdle in proprietary operating systems.[80][81]

    Ubuntu has also received negative assessments. In early 2008 PC World
    criticized the lack of an integrated desktop effects manager, although
    this did not prevent them from naming Ubuntu the "best all-around Linux
    distribution available today".[82]

    The Ministry of Education and Science of Republic Of Macedonia deployed
    more than 180,000 Ubuntu GNU/Linux based classroom desktops, and has
    encouraged every student in the country to use Ubuntu-powered computer
    workstations.[83]

    The French police are in the process of installing Ubuntu on 90,000
    workstations, demonstrating a 70% saving on the IT budget without having
    to reduce its capabilities.[84]"

    You're entitled to your own opinion, asshole, but you're not entitled to
    your own facts.

    --
    Alias
     
  6. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Alias wrote:
    > Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
    >> news:hm894i$it4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Pulse wrote:
    >>>> According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted
    >>>> on us as soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year
    >>>> later: July 2012.
    >>>>
    >>>> To be honest, both dates - but especially Windows 8's - seem, well,
    >>>> too soon.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm still waiting for the publishing of Russinovich's Windows
    >>>> Internals 6th ed. which is supposed to be covering Windows 7 and
    >>>> Windows Server 2008 R2. When I do get it, it will take me to
    >>>> sometime in 2011 to get it read! Then it's an all new "mind blowing"
    >>>> (as Microsoft puts it) version that I have to learn about? Why
    >>>> bother, eh?
    >>>>
    >>>> It seems like too much too soon for me. I feel that way. I thought
    >>>> NT was a mature product and didn't need constant changing.
    >>>>
    >>>> I know Microsoft can't rest on its laurels, but then again can't
    >>>> they get all "excited" about some other product in their lineup for
    >>>> a while? Because if we start having heart attacks, Microsoft, new
    >>>> computers won't be the priority.
    >>>>
    >>>> Instead, let's hear it for building up a Windows 7 ecosystem.
    >>>
    >>> Trust me, they don't care what their paying customers think. WGA and
    >>> WAT are proof of that. That said, I think you'll be one of the first
    >>> marks to get in line for Windows 8, right behind Frank.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Alias

    >>
    >> By the way, you said you own a copy of Vista and Windows 7 so I am
    >> sure you will be one of those "marks" who gets in line for Windows 8.

    >
    > Yes, I will need to be able to support it but I won't buy it for the
    > same reasons Frank or you will.
    >
    >> Ubuntu shoves out an updated version of their INFERIOR OS every 6
    >> months to try and sucker people to use their shitty software.

    >
    > Um, LTS is NOT every six months but every TWO YEARS.
    >
    >> Most people are too smart for that and once they install Ubuntu, they
    >> realize how crappy it is and remove it off their computers with hours
    >> or a couple of days.

    >
    > LIAR:
    >
    > From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)
    >
    > "Reception
    >
    > In an August 2007 survey of 38,500 visitors on DesktopLinux.com, Ubuntu
    > was the most popular distribution with 30.3% of respondents claiming to
    > use it.[9]
    >
    > In January 2009, the New York Times reported that Ubuntu had over ten
    > million users and in June 2009 ZDNet reported, "Worldwide, there are 13
    > million active Ubuntu users with use growing faster than any other
    > distribution."[73][74]
    >
    > Ubuntu was awarded the Reader Award for best Linux distribution at the
    > 2005 LinuxWorld Conference and Expo in London,[75] has been favorably
    > reviewed in online and print publications,[76][77][78] and has won
    > InfoWorld's 2007 Bossie Award for Best Open Source Client OS.[79]
    >
    > Jamie Hyneman, co-host of the television series Mythbusters, has
    > advocated Linux, specifically giving the example of Ubuntu, as an
    > alternative to proprietary software, citing software bloat as a major
    > hurdle in proprietary operating systems.[80][81]
    >
    > Ubuntu has also received negative assessments. In early 2008 PC World
    > criticized the lack of an integrated desktop effects manager, although
    > this did not prevent them from naming Ubuntu the "best all-around Linux
    > distribution available today".[82]


    And since then, Ubuntu introduced Compiz which came out with a
    integrated desktop effects manager.

    >
    > The Ministry of Education and Science of Republic Of Macedonia deployed
    > more than 180,000 Ubuntu GNU/Linux based classroom desktops, and has
    > encouraged every student in the country to use Ubuntu-powered computer
    > workstations.[83]
    >
    > The French police are in the process of installing Ubuntu on 90,000
    > workstations, demonstrating a 70% saving on the IT budget without having
    > to reduce its capabilities.[84]"
    >
    > You're entitled to your own opinion, asshole, but you're not entitled to
    > your own facts.
    >



    --
    Alias
     
  7. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    look at this idiot alias!

    On 2/26/2010 8:20 AM, Alias wrote:

    <--snipped the SPAM-->

    Why are you even here? You get your dumb, stupid, arrogant linturd
    trolling ass kicked by everyone on a daily basis. Are you that numb & dumb?
    Oh forget it, that was actually a rhetorical question.
     
  8. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 2/26/2010 8:24 AM, Alias wrote:

    <--deleted aliases spam--->

    You just don't get it do you? Nobody in here gives a shit about that toy
    useless POS os you're in love with.
    Get lost you creep!
     
  9. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:30:56 -0800, Frank wrote:

    > On 2/26/2010 8:24 AM, Alias wrote:
    >
    > <--deleted aliases spam--->
    >
    > You just don't get it do you? Nobody in here gives a shit about that toy
    > useless POS os you're in love with.
    > Get lost you creep!


    Then why are they using that useless POS os - vista!
     
  10. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:01:06 +0000, ray wrote:

    > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:30:56 -0800, Frank wrote:
    >
    >> On 2/26/2010 8:24 AM, Alias wrote:
    >>
    >> <--deleted aliases spam--->
    >>
    >> You just don't get it do you? Nobody in here gives a shit about that
    >> toy
    >> useless POS os you're in love with.
    >> Get lost you creep!

    >
    > Then why are they using that useless POS os - vista!


    Correction - toy useless POS os - vista or win7!
     
  11. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:04:45 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:

    > According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on us as
    > soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later: July 2012.



    I don't know anything about Microsoft's schedules, but those dates
    seem *extremely* unlikely to me.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  12. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
    news:017go59u19m6mj2vs6qahthbs5hkdf6k37@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:04:45 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:
    >
    >> According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on us
    >> as
    >> soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later: July
    >> 2012.

    >
    >
    > I don't know anything about Microsoft's schedules, but those dates
    > seem *extremely* unlikely to me.
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup


    Surely Microsoft are aware that a very large number of users, both home
    and business have the practice of skipping at least one version and
    never upgrade either system nor PC nor even software versions, if favour
    of buying all new.. They will presumably have the idea of either changing
    that practice or going along with it and releasing new systems faster -
    if I think of it somebody else will, for sure.
     
  13. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:59:54 -0000, "johnbee"
    <johnbrockbank@virginmedia.com> wrote:

    >
    > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
    > news:017go59u19m6mj2vs6qahthbs5hkdf6k37@4ax.com...
    > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:04:45 -0500, "Pulse" <pulse@nospam.net> wrote:
    > >
    > >> According to the industry media reports, Windows 8 might be foisted on us
    > >> as
    > >> soon as July 2011 and the next version of Server one year later: July
    > >> 2012.

    > >
    > >
    > > I don't know anything about Microsoft's schedules, but those dates
    > > seem *extremely* unlikely to me.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

    >
    > Surely Microsoft are aware that a very large number of users, both home
    > and business have the practice of skipping at least one version and
    > never upgrade either system nor PC nor even software versions, if favour
    > of buying all new.. They will presumably have the idea of either changing
    > that practice or going along with it and releasing new systems faster -
    > if I think of it somebody else will, for sure.



    I think that Microsoft, just as almost all other software companies,
    would like to release a new version as soon as possible, The main
    reason is that if you sell a customer version x of a product, you
    can't get him as a customer again until you have version x+1 to sell
    him.

    But what you apparently don't realize is that when you deal with
    software as big and as complex as an operating system, it takes a
    great deal of time to develop it and to test it adequately. There is
    always (again, in all software companies) a lot of stress between the
    Marketing people, who want to release today, and Quality Control, who
    wants to wait until problems are fixed.


    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     

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