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Slow boot up

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Francis M, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. Francis M

    Francis M Flightless Bird

    Hello,

    Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0 ghz
    processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to boot
    up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower. The
    computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some security updates,
    but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware with
    nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make programs
    laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally, when booting
    up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is
    running low and Windows is increasing its
    size...........................don't remember the rest.

    Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?

    Thank You
    Francis
     
  2. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Did a Norton or McAfee free trial come preinstalled on the computer when you
    bought it?

    Are you running AVG Free 9.0 and is Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, and/or one or more of the email scanning
    components installed?

    Help! My computer is slow!
    http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


    Francis M wrote:
    > Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0
    > ghz
    > processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to boot
    > up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower.
    > The
    > computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some security updates,
    > but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware
    > with
    > nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make
    > programs
    > laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally, when booting
    > up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is
    > running low and Windows is increasing its
    > size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >
    > Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?
     
  3. db

    db Flightless Bird

    it's likely that the message
    about low virtual memory is
    indicative of the issue you
    are having.

    ------------------------

    what you can try is to set
    the virtual memory to a
    custom/fixed size and
    forego the automatic mode.

    if you choose to customize
    the virtual memory then here
    are the sizes (based on your
    ram)

    set the initial size to 2

    and set the max size to 750

    (750 is approximately 2.5 times
    the size of your 512 ram)

    then reboot and see if this helps.

    if not, then you can leave it as is
    or go back to automatic mode.
    ------------------

    more info:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826513



    virtual memory then

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    >
    >


    "Francis M" <fmauser at verizon.net> wrote in message news:#eld8TmrKHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Hello,
    >
    > Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0 ghz processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8
    > to 10 minutes to boot up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower. The computer is not turned off that
    > often. Havew done some security updates, but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware with nothing
    > found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make programs laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally,
    > when booting up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is running low and Windows is increasing its
    > size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >
    > Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?
    >
    > Thank You
    > Francis
    >
     
  4. Francis M

    Francis M Flightless Bird

    Yes a trial version of McAfee came with the computer but it was unistalled
    long ago.

    Running AVG 9.0.733 with following components running: Anti-virus,
    Anti-spyware, Link Scanner, Email scanner,
    License, Resident Shield Update Manager and Secutity toolbar.

    Will go to recommended website and see what I can learn

    Thank you for the help.

    Francis



    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%23uydplmrKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Did a Norton or McAfee free trial come preinstalled on the computer when
    > you bought it?
    >
    > Are you running AVG Free 9.0 and is Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    > Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, and/or one or more of the email scanning
    > components installed?
    >
    > Help! My computer is slow!
    > http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html
    > --
    > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >
    >
    > Francis M wrote:
    >> Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0
    >> ghz
    >> processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to boot
    >> up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower.
    >> The
    >> computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some security updates,
    >> but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware
    >> with
    >> nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make
    >> programs
    >> laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally, when
    >> booting
    >> up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is
    >> running low and Windows is increasing its
    >> size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >>
    >> Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?

    >
     
  5. Toni

    Toni Flightless Bird

    "Francis M" wrote...
    > Hello,
    >
    > Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0 ghz
    > processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to boot up, which
    > when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower. The computer is not
    > turned off that often. Havew done some security updates, but not all. Have run AVG
    > virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware with nothing found. Did do a defrag and
    > scandisk, which did seem to make programs laundh faster, but still slow on boot up.
    > Oh, incidentally, when booting up I will get a message something to the effect that
    > Virtual Memory is running low and Windows is increasing its
    > size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >
    > Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?


    While logged in as an Administrator,
    Right-Click "My Computer" and select "Properties".
    Click on the "Advanced" tab.
    Under Performance, click "Settings"
    Click the "Advanced" tab.
    - Processor Scheduling should be set to "Performance"
    - Memory Usage should be set to "Programs"
    ??? Virtual Memory - under "Total paging file size for all drives", WHAT DOES IT SAY?
    -----Click "Change"
    ??? WHAT ARE ALL THE SETTINGS THERE?

    Get back with that info & we can move on from there.

    Toni
     
  6. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    McAfee (and Norton) applications are notorious for not uninstalling (or
    upgrading) cleanly.

    1. Download the McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool, saving it to your
    desktop:
    http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe

    2. Close all open applications (i.e., anything with an icon on the taskbar).

    3. Double-click on the file you saved in #1 above to run the utility. Don't
    TOUCH your keyboard until the run completes, then reboot.

    4. OPTIONAL but highly recommended => Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a
    fresh install of AVG: This time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT
    install (i.e., uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield,
    Security toolbar (none of which are compatible with IE7 or IE8 IMHO), or any
    of the email scanning components.

    • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
    http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

    Any better now?


    Francis M wrote:
    > Yes a trial version of McAfee came with the computer but it was
    > unistalled
    > long ago.
    >
    > Running AVG 9.0.733 with following components running: Anti-virus,
    > Anti-spyware, Link Scanner, Email scanner,
    > License, Resident Shield Update Manager and Secutity toolbar.
    >
    > Will go to recommended website and see what I can learn
    >
    > Thank you for the help.
    >
    >> Did a Norton or McAfee free trial come preinstalled on the computer when
    >> you bought it?
    >>
    >> Are you running AVG Free 9.0 and is Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    >> Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, and/or one or more of the email scanning
    >> components installed?
    >>
    >> Help! My computer is slow!
    >> http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html
    >> --
    >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>
    >>
    >> Francis M wrote:
    >>> Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0
    >>> ghz
    >>> processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to
    >>> boot
    >>> up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower.
    >>> The
    >>> computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some security
    >>> updates,
    >>> but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware
    >>> with
    >>> nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make
    >>> programs
    >>> laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally, when
    >>> booting
    >>> up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is
    >>> running low and Windows is increasing its
    >>> size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >>>
    >>> Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?
     
  7. Francis M

    Francis M Flightless Bird

    Total paging file size for all drives", WHAT DOES IT SAY?
    Minimum allowed 2mb
    Recommended 765mb
    Currently allocated 1526mb

    WHAT ARE ALL THE SETTINGS THERE?

    Custom size selected
    Intial size 768mb
    Maximum 1536mb



    "Toni" <Toni@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:%23XTCBvnrKHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > "Francis M" wrote...
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3.0
    >> ghz processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to
    >> boot up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become
    >> slower. The computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some
    >> security updates, but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and
    >> Lavasoft spyware with nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which
    >> did seem to make programs laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh,
    >> incidentally, when booting up I will get a message something to the
    >> effect that Virtual Memory is running low and Windows is increasing its
    >> size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >>
    >> Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?

    >
    > While logged in as an Administrator,
    > Right-Click "My Computer" and select "Properties".
    > Click on the "Advanced" tab.
    > Under Performance, click "Settings"
    > Click the "Advanced" tab.
    > - Processor Scheduling should be set to "Performance"
    > - Memory Usage should be set to "Programs"
    > ??? Virtual Memory - under "Total paging file size for all drives", WHAT
    > DOES IT SAY?
    > -----Click "Change"
    > ??? WHAT ARE ALL THE SETTINGS THERE?
    >
    > Get back with that info & we can move on from there.
    >
    > Toni
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
  8. Francis M

    Francis M Flightless Bird

    Will do. Now working on this. Thank You.

    Francis

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:-OQma1KprKHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > McAfee (and Norton) applications are notorious for not uninstalling (or
    > upgrading) cleanly.
    >
    > 1. Download the McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool, saving it to your
    > desktop:
    > http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe
    >
    > 2. Close all open applications (i.e., anything with an icon on the
    > taskbar).
    >
    > 3. Double-click on the file you saved in #1 above to run the utility.
    > Don't TOUCH your keyboard until the run completes, then reboot.
    >
    > 4. OPTIONAL but highly recommended => Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a
    > fresh install of AVG: This time select the CUSTOM install option and do
    > NOT install (i.e., uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    > Surf-Shield, Security toolbar (none of which are compatible with IE7 or
    > IE8 IMHO), or any of the email scanning components.
    >
    > • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
    > http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
    >
    > Any better now?
    >
    >
    > Francis M wrote:
    >> Yes a trial version of McAfee came with the computer but it was
    >> unistalled
    >> long ago.
    >>
    >> Running AVG 9.0.733 with following components running: Anti-virus,
    >> Anti-spyware, Link Scanner, Email scanner,
    >> License, Resident Shield Update Manager and Secutity toolbar.
    >>
    >> Will go to recommended website and see what I can learn
    >>
    >> Thank you for the help.
    >>
    >>> Did a Norton or McAfee free trial come preinstalled on the computer when
    >>> you bought it?
    >>>
    >>> Are you running AVG Free 9.0 and is Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    >>> Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, and/or one or more of the email scanning
    >>> components installed?
    >>>
    >>> Help! My computer is slow!
    >>> http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html
    >>> --
    >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Francis M wrote:
    >>>> Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram,
    >>>> 3.0
    >>>> ghz
    >>>> processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to
    >>>> boot
    >>>> up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower.
    >>>> The
    >>>> computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some security
    >>>> updates,
    >>>> but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware
    >>>> with
    >>>> nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make
    >>>> programs
    >>>> laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally, when
    >>>> booting
    >>>> up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is
    >>>> running low and Windows is increasing its
    >>>> size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >>>>
    >>>> Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?

    >
     
  9. Francis M

    Francis M Flightless Bird

    Have only done the McAfee Consumer Products Removal, and it took 7 minutes
    to boot up. Little quicker than before. Will try removing and reinstalling
    AVG like you said.

    Also want to reiew and heed instructions on the website you recommended:
    http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html

    Francis




    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:-OQma1KprKHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > McAfee (and Norton) applications are notorious for not uninstalling (or
    > upgrading) cleanly.
    >
    > 1. Download the McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool, saving it to your
    > desktop:
    > http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe
    >
    > 2. Close all open applications (i.e., anything with an icon on the
    > taskbar).
    >
    > 3. Double-click on the file you saved in #1 above to run the utility.
    > Don't TOUCH your keyboard until the run completes, then reboot.
    >
    > 4. OPTIONAL but highly recommended => Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a
    > fresh install of AVG: This time select the CUSTOM install option and do
    > NOT install (i.e., uncheck) Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    > Surf-Shield, Security toolbar (none of which are compatible with IE7 or
    > IE8 IMHO), or any of the email scanning components.
    >
    > • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
    > http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
    >
    > Any better now?
    >
    >
    > Francis M wrote:
    >> Yes a trial version of McAfee came with the computer but it was
    >> unistalled
    >> long ago.
    >>
    >> Running AVG 9.0.733 with following components running: Anti-virus,
    >> Anti-spyware, Link Scanner, Email scanner,
    >> License, Resident Shield Update Manager and Secutity toolbar.
    >>
    >> Will go to recommended website and see what I can learn
    >>
    >> Thank you for the help.
    >>
    >>> Did a Norton or McAfee free trial come preinstalled on the computer when
    >>> you bought it?
    >>>
    >>> Are you running AVG Free 9.0 and is Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active
    >>> Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, and/or one or more of the email scanning
    >>> components installed?
    >>>
    >>> Help! My computer is slow!
    >>> http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html
    >>> --
    >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Francis M wrote:
    >>>> Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram,
    >>>> 3.0
    >>>> ghz
    >>>> processor, unit is 4 years old. It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to
    >>>> boot
    >>>> up, which when new was not like that. It has gradually become slower.
    >>>> The
    >>>> computer is not turned off that often. Havew done some security
    >>>> updates,
    >>>> but not all. Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D, and Lavasoft spyware
    >>>> with
    >>>> nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which did seem to make
    >>>> programs
    >>>> laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh, incidentally, when
    >>>> booting
    >>>> up I will get a message something to the effect that Virtual Memory is
    >>>> running low and Windows is increasing its
    >>>> size...........................don't remember the rest.
    >>>>
    >>>> Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?

    >
     
  10. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Feb 15, 7:56 pm, "Francis M" <fmauser at verizon.net> wrote:
    > Total paging file size for all drives", WHAT DOES IT SAY?
    >     Minimum allowed  2mb
    >     Recommended  765mb
    >     Currently allocated 1526mb
    >
    > WHAT ARE ALL THE SETTINGS THERE?
    >
    >     Custom size selected
    >     Intial size 768mb
    >     Maximum 1536mb
    >
    > "Toni" <T...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:%23XTCBvnrKHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >
    >
    >
    > > "Francis M" wrote...
    > >> Hello,

    >
    > >> Have a Dell Dimension 510, Windows XP Media Center, SP2, 512 MB ram, 3..0
    > >> ghz processor, unit is 4 years old.  It is now taking 8 to 10 minutes to
    > >> boot up, which when new was not like that.  It has gradually become
    > >> slower.  The computer is not turned off that often.  Havew done some
    > >> security updates, but not all.  Have run AVG virus scan, Spybot S&D,and
    > >> Lavasoft spyware with nothing found. Did do a defrag and scandisk, which
    > >> did seem to make programs laundh faster, but still slow on boot up. Oh,
    > >> incidentally, when  booting up I will get a message something to the
    > >> effect that Virtual Memory is running low and Windows is increasing its
    > >> size...........................don't remember the rest.

    >
    > >> Any idea what I can do to hasten boot up?

    >
    > > While logged in as an Administrator,
    > > Right-Click "My Computer" and select "Properties".
    > > Click on the "Advanced" tab.
    > > Under Performance, click "Settings"
    > > Click the "Advanced" tab.
    > > - Processor Scheduling should be set to "Performance"
    > > - Memory Usage should be set to "Programs"
    > > ??? Virtual Memory - under "Total paging file size for all drives", WHAT
    > > DOES IT SAY?
    > > -----Click "Change"
    > > ??? WHAT ARE ALL THE SETTINGS THERE?

    >
    > > Get back with that info & we can move on from there.

    >
    > > Toni


    You can put an end to questions about your system, what you have, what
    you don't have try this, try that by providing some more information.
    Sounds like you have things configured in a less than optimal way.

    PA Bear is on the right track - too much stuff that you don't need,
    but it will also help to actually see what your system looks like now
    or when you get done messing around.

    Since Spybot is in the picture, if their Teatimer component is
    installed (optional of course), that is a huge consumer of Virtual
    Memory, but we can tell if you do post screen shots of a few things on
    your system.

    Unless you know more about managing memory that XP you should leave
    your Virtual Memory settings at System managed size and not change
    them. The message you see is not an error, it is an informational
    message that XP is doing it's job. You should just make better use of
    your resources instead.

    Here are three things we need, how to do it and then some examples.

    1. Supply msinfo32 information
    2. Supply Task Manager information
    3. Supply Startup information (use CCleaner for this and other things
    later)

    1. Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

    msinfo32

    Click OK, and when the System Summary info appears, click Edit, Select
    All, Copy and then paste the information back here.

    There will be some personal information (like System Name and User
    Name), and whatever appears to be private information to you, just
    delete it from the pasted information.

    2. Post a screen shot of your Task Manager and there will be no
    guessing about what it running or your virtual memory.

    Right click the Taskbar, choose Task Manager and select the Processes
    tab.

    Click View, Select Columns, check the box that says: Virtual Memory
    Size. Expand the width of the Task Manager box so you can see all the
    columns and processes. Is the largest consumer of Virtual Memory
    Teatimer? It doesn't have to be that way.

    Double click a column heading in TM to sort by the column. For
    example, sort Task Manager by the CPU column.

    Take a screenshot of what you see and upload the screenshot to one of
    several free picture hosting WWW sites listed below.

    3. Download CCleaner, install it, run it, click Tools, Startup and
    drag the columns around so all the Startup items are easy to see.

    CCleaner is good for this since it shows the Startup information in a
    bigger display and has other useful functions. You can uninstall it
    later if you don't use it.

    Get CCleaner here:

    http://www.ccleaner.com/

    When you are done, we will be able to see what you are seeing.

    Here is how to create and post a screenshot:

    Press the Print Scrn button to copy your entire screen to the Windows
    clipboard.

    Press Alt Print Scrn to copy just the active window to the Windows
    clipboard.

    Open MS Paint:

    Start, Program Accessories, Paint

    When Paint opens, press CTRL-V to paste the clipboard, save the new
    Paint file to your desktop or someplace you can remember. JPG files
    take up less hard disk space than BMP files and just as readable.

    Make as many screenshots as you need. Practice makes perfect. Be
    careful your screenshot does not contain any personal information.
    Practice viewing your images before you upload them to be sure they
    are okay.

    You cannot upload screenshot files here but you can use a free third
    party image hosting WWW site.

    Create a free account on some free picture hosting web site. You can
    always remove your account later if you want.

    Here are some free image hosting sites:

    http://www.imageshack.us/
    http://photobucket.com/

    Using your free account, upload your screenshot(s) (the JPG or BMP
    files) to the site and it will return to you a URL web address (a
    Direct Link) for your new image(s) which you can paste the Direct Link
    in a message post, email, etc.

    When you are done, what you post for others to use should look
    something like this:

    http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6428/taskmanagerr.jpg <- Task
    Manager
    http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6969/ccleanerstartup.jpg <-
    Coveted CCleaner Startup

    If you click those example links above, you can see some examples.
    Yours will be similar, sort of.

    Post that Direct Link web address back here in your response and we
    can click on the link address and see your screenshot. Post as many
    as you need but at least the two requested - the sites are free.
     

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