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Slipstream and still Repair Install?

I

inoldc

Flightless Bird
Hello,

Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then used at
the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is experiencing
issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use a slipstreamed
SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?

Thanks
 
D

DL

Flightless Bird
You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
installed, to repair

"inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Hello,
>
> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then used
> at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use a
> slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?
>
> Thanks
>
 
I

inoldc

Flightless Bird
Thanks

I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to be the
same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?




"DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
> installed, to repair
>
> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then used
>> at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
>> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use a
>> slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>
>
 
L

LVTravel

Flightless Bird
"inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks
>
> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to be the
> same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>
>
>
>
> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
>> installed, to repair
>>
>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then used
>>> at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
>>> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use
>>> a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>


Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other words you
can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as long as both are XP
Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally can't do a Pro OEM with a
Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from different OEM manufacturers.
Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro disk or vice versa.
 
I

inoldc

Flightless Bird
"LVTravel" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Thanks
>>
>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to be the
>> same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
>>> installed, to repair
>>>
>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then
>>>> used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
>>>> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use
>>>> a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other words
> you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as long as both
> are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally can't do a Pro OEM
> with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from different OEM
> manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro disk or vice versa.


The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2 with the
downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home including SP2.
 
L

LVTravel

Flightless Bird
"inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
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>
> "LVTravel" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to be
>>> the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
>>>> installed, to repair
>>>>
>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then
>>>>> used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
>>>>> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one
>>>>> use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other words
>> you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as long as both
>> are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally can't do a Pro OEM
>> with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from different OEM
>> manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro disk or vice
>> versa.

>
> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2 with
> the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home including SP2.
>
>
>

Should work.
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
inoldc wrote:
> "LVTravel" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to
>>> be the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as
>>>> currently installed, to repair
>>>>
>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and
>>>>> then used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2
>>>>> now and is experiencing issues that might call for the Repair
>>>>> Install, can one use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or
>>>>> more with one stone? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other
>> words you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as
>> long as both are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally
>> can't do a Pro OEM with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from
>> different OEM manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro
>> disk or vice versa.

>
> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2
> with the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home
> including SP2.


This will work only if you have the *Retail* version of XP Home
installed on your PC (so that it matches the installation CD). If it is
an OEM license, you will need to obtain a generic OEM XP Home
installation CD (preferably at the SP2 level to make life easier).

I would also like to know if there are folks who have been successful
using an installation CD at the higher SP level to "kill two birds with
one stone." I've never done this, but perhaps it is possible.
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Mar 1, 2:57 pm, "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote:
> "LVTravel" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
>
> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote in message
> >news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> Thanks

>
> >> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to be the
> >> same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?

>
> >> "DL" <notva...@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>
> >>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
> >>> installed, to repair

>
> >>> "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >>>> Hello,

>
> >>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then
> >>>> used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
> >>>> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use
> >>>> a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?

>
> >>>> Thanks

>
> > Exact same versions only.  Activation keys don't matter. In other words
> > you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as long as both
> > are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs.  You normally can't do a ProOEM
> > with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from different OEM
> > manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro disk or vice versa.

>
> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2 with the
> downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home including SP2.


I don't know the answer but MS says:

Reinstalling the Windows operating system or performing an in-place
upgrade of your operating system is an extreme troubleshooting step
that you should only take if you fully understand the ramifications
and risks involved.

That statement is followed by other sentences with words like if and
try. This does not instill confidence, but sometimes folks are
compelled to believe reinstalling or repairing is the only option. So
far here, you have a couple mights, a should and a perhaps (nothing
personal boys and girls).

Why don't you fix the original unspecified problem and save the
extreme steps for later (e.g. never). Then you can decide to upgrade
to SP3 or not, if you chose to do so slipstream a new installation CD
with SP3 on it and then never have to make this decision again.
 
A

Anna

Flightless Bird

>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and then used
>>> at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2 now and is
>>> experiencing issues that might call for the Repair Install, can one use
>>> a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or more with one stone?
>>>
>>> Thanks



> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as currently
>> installed, to repair



"inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Thanks
>
> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to be the
> same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?


("inoldc..." later adds...)
> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2 with
> the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home including SP2.



inoldc...
You do *not* need to undertake a Repair install of the XP OS using an XP
installation CD containing the same SP level as the installed system.

You can use a "slipstreamed" XP OS installation CD containing SP3 to
undertake a Repair install of the currently installed OS that includes SP2.

I assume you've some familiarity with undertaking a Repair install, but just
one cautionary note in case your experience is limited in this regard...

Undertaking a Repair install of the OS is a relatively straightforward
process. It would be roughly akin to making a fresh install of the OS, but
in nearly every case your existing programs & user-created data would be
retained. Notice I said "nearly". While it would be a rather rare situation
where data would be lost or corrupted as a result of the Repair install, and
as unlikely as it may be, it *could* happen.

So if there are any programs and/or other data on your present drive that
are absolutely crucial to you and you could not tolerate their loss, then I
would strongly suggest that before undertaking this Repair install operation
that you first either make a copy of your existing HDD (using a disk-cloning
or disk-imaging program) or, if that's not practical and since you
apparently can access the drive's contents, pull off whatever data you want
onto some removable media, e.g., flash drive, CD, etc. before undertaking
the Repair install.

Again, it's a relatively rare event that a loss or corruption of data will
occur even when the Repair install is unsuccessful, but it *can* happen. So
be aware of this.
Anna
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Anna wrote:
> You do *not* need to undertake a Repair install of the XP OS using an
> XP installation CD containing the same SP level as the installed
> system.


Is this method officially supported by Microsoft? Have you successfully
done this? Any "gotchas" one needs to look out for? Thx for your input.
 
A

Anna

Flightless Bird
"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
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> Anna wrote:
>> You do *not* need to undertake a Repair install of the XP OS using an
>> XP installation CD containing the same SP level as the installed
>> system.

>
> Is this method officially supported by Microsoft? Have you successfully
> done this? Any "gotchas" one needs to look out for? Thx for your input.



Daave:
There's no problem with MS that I'm aware of as long as there's no problem
with Product Key-ID matches. We've undertaken these types of Repair installs
on a routine basis without any problems that could be attributed to using an
XP OS installation CD containing a later SP than the currently installed OS.

(While the following doesn't have any relevance to the issue at hand)...
You may want to take a look at the MS article at...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917964
concerning undertaking a Repair install of the OS should IE7 or IE8 be
installed.

However, notwithstanding that article our experience has been that following
a successful Repair install of the OS the system simply reverts to IE6.
We've never (to the best of my knowledge) had to follow the instructions in
that MS article re uninstalling a later version of IE. Naturally the user
would need to subsequently install a later IE version should he or she so
desire.
Anna
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Anna wrote:
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:eV94mtZuKHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Anna wrote:
>>> You do *not* need to undertake a Repair install of the XP OS using
>>> an XP installation CD containing the same SP level as the installed
>>> system.

>>
>> Is this method officially supported by Microsoft? Have you
>> successfully done this? Any "gotchas" one needs to look out for? Thx
>> for your input.

>
>
> Daave:
> There's no problem with MS that I'm aware of as long as there's no
> problem with Product Key-ID matches. We've undertaken these types of
> Repair installs on a routine basis without any problems that could be
> attributed to using an XP OS installation CD containing a later SP
> than the currently installed OS.
> (While the following doesn't have any relevance to the issue at
> hand)... You may want to take a look at the MS article at...
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917964
> concerning undertaking a Repair install of the OS should IE7 or IE8 be
> installed.
>
> However, notwithstanding that article our experience has been that
> following a successful Repair install of the OS the system simply
> reverts to IE6. We've never (to the best of my knowledge) had to
> follow the instructions in that MS article re uninstalling a later
> version of IE. Naturally the user would need to subsequently install
> a later IE version should he or she so desire.
> Anna


Thx for the info. I wasn't asking about licensing or activating issues.
I wondered if there was an actual KB article or something else
"official" from Microsoft that indicated a Repair Install may be done
with an installation CD at a higher SP level (which would "kill two
birds with one stone" as OP put it and allow the user to wind up at an
"SP upgrade."

I once had a problem with a Repair Install where IE6 had been upgraded
to IE7 before SP3 had been installed (not my PC; but I had imaged the
hard drive first so I was able to "undo" the breaking of IE).
 
D

dadiOH

Flightless Bird
Daave wrote:
> inoldc wrote:
>> "LVTravel" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to
>>>> be the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as
>>>>> currently installed, to repair
>>>>>
>>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and
>>>>>> then used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2
>>>>>> now and is experiencing issues that might call for the Repair
>>>>>> Install, can one use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or
>>>>>> more with one stone? Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other
>>> words you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as
>>> long as both are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally
>>> can't do a Pro OEM with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from
>>> different OEM manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro
>>> disk or vice versa.

>>
>> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2
>> with the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home
>> including SP2.

>
> This will work only if you have the *Retail* version of XP Home
> installed on your PC (so that it matches the installation CD). If it
> is an OEM license, you will need to obtain a generic OEM XP Home
> installation CD (preferably at the SP2 level to make life easier).
>
> I would also like to know if there are folks who have been successful
> using an installation CD at the higher SP level to "kill two birds
> with one stone." I've never done this, but perhaps it is possible.


I have an XP Home SP2, OEM install CD. I made a copy of it and slipstreamed
in SP3. I have done repair installs with the copy.

--

dadiOH
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J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Mar 2, 7:45 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Daave wrote:
> > inoldc wrote:
> >> "LVTravel" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
> >>news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>
> >>> "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >>>> Thanks

>
> >>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to
> >>>> be the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?

>
> >>>> "DL" <notva...@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>
> >>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as
> >>>>> currently installed, to repair

>
> >>>>> "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >>>>>> Hello,

>
> >>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and
> >>>>>> then used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2
> >>>>>> now and is experiencing issues that might call for the Repair
> >>>>>> Install, can one use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or
> >>>>>> more with one stone? Thanks

>
> >>> Exact same versions only.  Activation keys don't matter. In other
> >>> words you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as
> >>> long as both are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs.  You normally
> >>> can't do a Pro OEM with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from
> >>> different OEM manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro
> >>> disk or vice versa.

>
> >> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2
> >> with the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home
> >> including SP2.

>
> > This will work only if you have the *Retail* version of XP Home
> > installed on your PC (so that it matches the installation CD). If it
> > is an OEM license, you will need to obtain a generic OEM XP Home
> > installation CD (preferably at the SP2 level to make life easier).

>
> > I would also like to know if there are folks who have been successful
> > using an installation CD at the higher SP level to "kill two birds
> > with one stone." I've never done this, but perhaps it is possible.

>
> I have an XP Home SP2, OEM install CD.  I made a copy of it and slipstreamed
> in SP3.  I have done repair installs with the copy.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico


Did the repaired system being with SP2 and then when repaired using
the slipstreamed SP3 CD, did the repaired system now have SP3
installed?

I think that is the question that is still unanswered... If you have
a broken system with SP2 and repair it with a slipstreamed SP3 CD,
does the system get repaired and now also have SP3 installed? It
would seem the answer is either yes, no - or I'm not sure.

These ideas that have words like assume, caution, relatively
straightforward, try, might, maybe, risk, absolutely crucial,
relatively rare, corruption, nearly every case, can happen, could
happen, strongly suggest, etc. just do not sit well with me.

However, I have never had a need to perform a Repair install so have
no experience in the matter.
 
I

inoldc

Flightless Bird
"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Daave wrote:
>> inoldc wrote:
>>> "LVTravel" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have to
>>>>> be the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as
>>>>>> currently installed, to repair
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and
>>>>>>> then used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has SP2
>>>>>>> now and is experiencing issues that might call for the Repair
>>>>>>> Install, can one use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two birds or
>>>>>>> more with one stone? Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other
>>>> words you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as
>>>> long as both are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally
>>>> can't do a Pro OEM with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly from
>>>> different OEM manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home with a Pro
>>>> disk or vice versa.
>>>
>>> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2
>>> with the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home
>>> including SP2.

>>
>> This will work only if you have the *Retail* version of XP Home
>> installed on your PC (so that it matches the installation CD). If it
>> is an OEM license, you will need to obtain a generic OEM XP Home
>> installation CD (preferably at the SP2 level to make life easier).
>>
>> I would also like to know if there are folks who have been successful
>> using an installation CD at the higher SP level to "kill two birds
>> with one stone." I've never done this, but perhaps it is possible.

>
> I have an XP Home SP2, OEM install CD. I made a copy of it and
> slipstreamed in SP3. I have done repair installs with the copy.
>
>


Thanks to those who have contributed so far.

I have a machine that is buggered up with, seemingly, multiple issues and
that I may need to repair install. I want to see thoughts on that topic as I
move toward seeing if I can fix it, as I have a feeling I can't. Now I'm off
to find the proper group for that thread.
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Jose wrote:
> On Mar 2, 7:45 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Daave wrote:
>>> inoldc wrote:
>>>> "LVTravel" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>
>>>>> "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Thanks

>>
>>>>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have
>>>>>> to be the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?

>>
>>>>>> "DL" <notva...@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>
>>>>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as
>>>>>>> currently installed, to repair

>>
>>>>>>> "inoldc" <n...@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> Hello,

>>
>>>>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and
>>>>>>>> then used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has
>>>>>>>> SP2 now and is experiencing issues that might call for the
>>>>>>>> Repair Install, can one use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two
>>>>>>>> birds or more with one stone? Thanks

>>
>>>>> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other
>>>>> words you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as
>>>>> long as both are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You normally
>>>>> can't do a Pro OEM with a Pro Retail and vice versa or possibly
>>>>> from different OEM manufacturers. Definitely you can't do Home
>>>>> with a Pro disk or vice versa.

>>
>>>> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2
>>>> with the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home
>>>> including SP2.

>>
>>> This will work only if you have the *Retail* version of XP Home
>>> installed on your PC (so that it matches the installation CD). If it
>>> is an OEM license, you will need to obtain a generic OEM XP Home
>>> installation CD (preferably at the SP2 level to make life easier).

>>
>>> I would also like to know if there are folks who have been
>>> successful using an installation CD at the higher SP level to "kill
>>> two birds with one stone." I've never done this, but perhaps it is
>>> possible.

>>
>> I have an XP Home SP2, OEM install CD. I made a copy of it and
>> slipstreamed in SP3. I have done repair installs with the copy.
>>
>> --
>>
>> dadiOH
>> ____________________________
>>
>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
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>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
>> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>
> Did the repaired system being with SP2 and then when repaired using
> the slipstreamed SP3 CD, did the repaired system now have SP3
> installed?
>
> I think that is the question that is still unanswered... If you have
> a broken system with SP2 and repair it with a slipstreamed SP3 CD,
> does the system get repaired and now also have SP3 installed? It
> would seem the answer is either yes, no - or I'm not sure.


Anna answered in the affirmative.
 
A

Anna

Flightless Bird
"Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3155eaf6-3714-444c-b093-5c75b0ec2d1a@y11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Did the repaired system being with SP2 and then when repaired using
the slipstreamed SP3 CD, did the repaired system now have SP3
installed?

I think that is the question that is still unanswered... If you have
a broken system with SP2 and repair it with a slipstreamed SP3 CD,
does the system get repaired and now also have SP3 installed? It
would seem the answer is either yes, no - or I'm not sure.

These ideas that have words like assume, caution, relatively
straightforward, try, might, maybe, risk, absolutely crucial,
relatively rare, corruption, nearly every case, can happen, could
happen, strongly suggest, etc. just do not sit well with me.

However, I have never had a need to perform a Repair install so have
no experience in the matter.


Jose:
The answer to your first question is "yes", i.e., the "repaired" OS will
contain SP3. Naturally this assumes the Repair install of the OS was
successful.

So to follow-through on your second question, the same answer of "yes" is
applicable. This assumes (again) that the Repair install of the OS was
successful.

Like virtually every other process affecting a PC there's rarely any 100%
assurance that this or that process will be successful. And that's
especially true of a Repair installation of the XP OS. There are any number
of problems affecting a dysfunctional OS that will cause a Repair install of
the OS to be unsuccessful. Be that as it may, a Repair install can be an
effective tool to return an unbootable/dysfunctional system to a
bootable/functional one.

Whether it will "work" in the OP's case, who knows? In the OP's latest post
he/she states "I have a machine that is buggered up with, seemingly,
multiple issues and that I may need to repair install." That sounds rather
ominous in terms of undertaking a successful Repair install of the OP's OS,
but it's probably worth a try (taking into consideration the cautionary
notes previously furnished to the OP). And should worse come to worse a
fresh install of the OS together with the OP's programs & other data may be
the only salvation in this case.

Just a final note re those words & phrases you mentioned that "just do not
sit well..." with you. While it is perfectly understandable that you would
find such uncomfortable in the context of PC processes/repairs, etc., I
would only mention that I learned a long time ago during the early years of
my experience building, repairing, & maintaining PCs that I had to be
extremely careful when using words like "always" or "never" when discussing
*any* process involving a PC. Simply stated - what should work doesn't
always work; what shouldn't work sometimes works.
Anna
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
inoldc wrote:
> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:eaYPRZguKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Daave wrote:
>>> inoldc wrote:
>>>> "LVTravel" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-Oad1JiXuKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vKidnXI-R6XPiRHWnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have SP2 cd's here for other boxes... do the key numbers have
>>>>>> to be the same as what's on the box already for a Repair Install?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23%23SCDPXuKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need a slipstreamed installation of the same sp level as
>>>>>>> currently installed, to repair
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "inoldc" <not@atall.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:r5OdncwaYeaelBHWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can an XP Home (original version) be slipstreamed with SP3 and
>>>>>>>> then used at the time of a Repair Install? I.E. If a box has
>>>>>>>> SP2 now and is experiencing issues that might call for the
>>>>>>>> Repair Install, can one use a slipstreamed SP3 and kill two
>>>>>>>> birds or more with one stone? Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Exact same versions only. Activation keys don't matter. In other
>>>>> words you can repair one machine with another machine's XP disk as
>>>>> long as both are XP Pro, SP2 Retail version installs. You
>>>>> normally can't do a Pro OEM with a Pro Retail and vice versa or
>>>>> possibly from different OEM manufacturers. Definitely you can't
>>>>> do Home with a Pro disk or vice versa.
>>>>
>>>> The XP Home box that may need the repair install was updated to SP2
>>>> with the downloaded SP2 for IT file. The disk is retail XP Home
>>>> including SP2.
>>>
>>> This will work only if you have the *Retail* version of XP Home
>>> installed on your PC (so that it matches the installation CD). If it
>>> is an OEM license, you will need to obtain a generic OEM XP Home
>>> installation CD (preferably at the SP2 level to make life easier).
>>>
>>> I would also like to know if there are folks who have been
>>> successful using an installation CD at the higher SP level to "kill
>>> two birds with one stone." I've never done this, but perhaps it is
>>> possible.

>>
>> I have an XP Home SP2, OEM install CD. I made a copy of it and
>> slipstreamed in SP3. I have done repair installs with the copy.
>>
>>

>
> Thanks to those who have contributed so far.
>
> I have a machine that is buggered up with, seemingly, multiple issues
> and that I may need to repair install. I want to see thoughts on that
> topic as I move toward seeing if I can fix it, as I have a feeling I
> can't. Now I'm off to find the proper group for that thread.


If your PC has become compromised due to malware, a simple Repair
Install will not help you. Depending on the extent of the damage, a
Clean Install might be necessary.
 
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