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Slghtly OT; WinXP and RAID 0

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Chet, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. Chet

    Chet Flightless Bird

    I know this is OT but as a very long time lurker I know there's many
    very knowledgeable posters that use Acronis or other imaging apps in
    this group.

    I'm planning on setting up WinXP (slippedstreamed SP3 and RAID drivers)
    on two new 320GB SATA drives. I've never used RAID before but know RAID
    0 will split the data between the 2 drives, and I presume I'll only see
    a C:/ drive in Windows Explorer or Disk Management (both drives
    recognized as 1).

    The motherboard supports ACHI and RAID 0, 1, 0+1, and JBOD.

    I presently image (DriveImage XML) the IDE WinXP drive to an external
    USB SATA drive for backup, and likewise for the dual boot IDE Win7
    drive. I swap in a spare IDE drive occasionally for testing the images,
    booting to a rescue CD with BartPE and DriveImage restoring an image to
    the spare drive and then booting to it (gives me peace of mind!).

    My question is will I be able to image the two new sata drives as C:/ as
    I do now? Also, what would be a good procedure for testing the image
    besides just browsing through it?

    OR, would it be simpler to use RAID 0+1 for the backup/redundancy? The
    board does have 4 SATA connectors.

    Background: the machine is homemade with an ASRock 775 HDTV motherboard,
    4 GB (2x2) DDR2 667 RAM, Intel P4 3.46GHz EE 955 SL94N cpu, 500 watt
    power supply; the machine is used mainly for running IIS for my local
    intranet workgroup for web development and Microsoft Virtual PC (it even
    runs the Vista Business evaluation version pretty well!).

    This is a RAID learning exercise for my personal knowledge, so if I foul
    it up, I'll just replace the original IDEs with their respective Windows
    versions. And probably try again (I'm stubborn).

    Thanks in advance for answers and advice.
    --
    Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     
  2. Leythos

    Leythos Flightless Bird

    In article <eJixdwO3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
    chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com says...
    > OR, would it be simpler to use RAID 0+1 for the backup/redundancy? The
    > board does have 4 SATA connectors.
    >


    RAID IS NOT A BACKUP, it's hardware redundancy, not data backup of any
    form.

    If you want hardware redundancy and you have 4 drive of the same size,
    raid 1+0 or 0+1 is the way to go - great speed and depending on which
    you choose you could have two drives fail without impact.

    A "backup" is to make data safe, RAID does not do that.

    With RAID-0, if either drive fails or faults you will lose all date on
    both drives.

    --
    You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
    voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
    Trust yourself.
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
  3. Chet

    Chet Flightless Bird

    On 4/15/2010 8:20 PM, Leythos wrote:
    > In article<eJixdwO3KHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
    > chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com says...
    >> OR, would it be simpler to use RAID 0+1 for the backup/redundancy? The
    >> board does have 4 SATA connectors.
    >>

    >
    > RAID IS NOT A BACKUP, it's hardware redundancy, not data backup of any
    > form.
    >
    > If you want hardware redundancy and you have 4 drive of the same size,
    > raid 1+0 or 0+1 is the way to go - great speed and depending on which
    > you choose you could have two drives fail without impact.
    >

    Murphy's law could be used here, two would impact my setup! The same
    drive in each array.

    > A "backup" is to make data safe, RAID does not do that.
    >
    > With RAID-0, if either drive fails or faults you will lose all date on
    > both drives.
    >


    I do understand that the RAID setup would not actually be the backup,
    that's why I was asking if, in a RAID 0 setup, the two physical drives
    would show as a single disk in Disk Management (or Windows Explorer);
    and if so, could that "C:/" drive be imaged for the backup?

    Thanks for the reply,
    --
    Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     
  4. Andrew E.

    Andrew E. Flightless Bird

    RAID 0 is usually created for speed,RAID 1,gives more speed than SATA
    but 0 has backup ability if one hd is lost.Slipstreaming sounds good but
    if the data isnt copied correctly whats the use..For more RAID info,go to:

    http://intel.com/performance/desktop/platform_technologies/storage_performance.htm

    "Chet" wrote:

    > I know this is OT but as a very long time lurker I know there's many
    > very knowledgeable posters that use Acronis or other imaging apps in
    > this group.
    >
    > I'm planning on setting up WinXP (slippedstreamed SP3 and RAID drivers)
    > on two new 320GB SATA drives. I've never used RAID before but know RAID
    > 0 will split the data between the 2 drives, and I presume I'll only see
    > a C:/ drive in Windows Explorer or Disk Management (both drives
    > recognized as 1).
    >
    > The motherboard supports ACHI and RAID 0, 1, 0+1, and JBOD.
    >
    > I presently image (DriveImage XML) the IDE WinXP drive to an external
    > USB SATA drive for backup, and likewise for the dual boot IDE Win7
    > drive. I swap in a spare IDE drive occasionally for testing the images,
    > booting to a rescue CD with BartPE and DriveImage restoring an image to
    > the spare drive and then booting to it (gives me peace of mind!).
    >
    > My question is will I be able to image the two new sata drives as C:/ as
    > I do now? Also, what would be a good procedure for testing the image
    > besides just browsing through it?
    >
    > OR, would it be simpler to use RAID 0+1 for the backup/redundancy? The
    > board does have 4 SATA connectors.
    >
    > Background: the machine is homemade with an ASRock 775 HDTV motherboard,
    > 4 GB (2x2) DDR2 667 RAM, Intel P4 3.46GHz EE 955 SL94N cpu, 500 watt
    > power supply; the machine is used mainly for running IIS for my local
    > intranet workgroup for web development and Microsoft Virtual PC (it even
    > runs the Vista Business evaluation version pretty well!).
    >
    > This is a RAID learning exercise for my personal knowledge, so if I foul
    > it up, I'll just replace the original IDEs with their respective Windows
    > versions. And probably try again (I'm stubborn).
    >
    > Thanks in advance for answers and advice.
    > --
    > Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
    > .
    >
     
  5. Leythos

    Leythos Flightless Bird

    In article <uCQ6CYQ3KHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
    chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com says...
    > I do understand that the RAID setup would not actually be the backup,
    > that's why I was asking if, in a RAID 0 setup, the two physical drives
    > would show as a single disk in Disk Management (or Windows Explorer);
    > and if so, could that "C:/" drive be imaged for the backup?
    >


    I can't answer your question because it depends on the driver used by
    the backup utility.

    In cases of the old DOS Ghost program, if you didn't load the RAID
    controller driver the array was not even found.

    Have you checked the documentation for the software you want to use?

    --
    You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
    voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
    Trust yourself.
    spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
     

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