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Single-clicking _sometimes_ produces double-click in IE8

P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

Is Automatic Updates set to the Automatic, the 'Notify Only' option, or the
"Download but..." option?


Mammoth wrote:
> A problem has happened yesterday: when using IE8 (latest update), browser
> sometimes takes my normal left-click as double click. Keyword is
> "sometimes"
> - i.e. this isn't some mouse settings problem. For example, I click on
> some
> menu (like "Tools") - it drops down (as is should). I click it again - it
> hides. Then I click it again - it shows and hides again in a blink. Or,
> for
> a change, I click when menu is open - it closes and reopens back
> instantly.
> In most cases I have to click like 10 times until I get this effect; on
> the
> other hand, sometimes it goes "stuck", and takes my click as double-click
> several times in the row. Likewise, clicking on window upper bar sometimes
> makes it maximize/shrink (the way it responds to double-click). Clicking
> on
> "back" button makes browser go 2 pages back, and so forth.
>
> The funny part starts when I click slowly (i.e. press left mouse, hold it,
> release). Usually it responds the right way: pressing opens menu,
> releasing
> does nothing. On the other hand, sometimes menu opens when button goes
> down,
> and closes when it goes up. Sometimes it even opens and insta closes when
> I
> hold it, and does nothing when I release it!
>
> This is not a hardware or human problem: it appears using any of 3 mices
> connected to at any of 2 computers, happens when either me or my wife
> clicks
> it. Moreover, it never happens when I start Windows from a bootable CD.
>
> The problem never occurs when I just click on icons (single click never
> launches an application) or folders (single click never opens them).
>
> It still exists when I restart in safe mode.
>
> I've installed IntelliMouse and checked settings - nothing is wrong, as
> far
> as I can see.
>
> This is not a virus/malware problem, most probably: my computers are
> behind
> a hardware firewall (router), NOD32 is always on and updated, on top of
> that
> I've just checked my comp with DrWeb and AVZ - nothing is found.
>
> Disabling all IE addons didn't help either.
>
>
> I didn't install any new software lately. However, Adobe Flash Player
> ActiveX has updated itself on both our computers up to v.10 (and yes I
> need
> it). This is the only reason I can think of atm...
>
> Windows XP 32, SP3. Core2Quad 2.4GHz, 4Gb RAM, a lot of free disk space.
>
> Help please! Thanks in advance.
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Flightless Bird
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ejuExJzDLHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>
> Is Automatic Updates set to the Automatic, the 'Notify Only' option, or
> the "Download but..." option?
>
>


How does that help fix the mouse problem that is reported AFTER the
Automatic Update has already been accomplished?
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ejuExJzDLHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>>
>> Is Automatic Updates set to the Automatic, the 'Notify Only' option, or
>> the "Download but..." option?
>>
>>

>
> How does that help fix the mouse problem that is reported AFTER the
> Automatic Update has already been accomplished?


In PA Bear's mind, all problems are prevented by having your computer
fully patched and your virus scanner subscription current.

Of course this completely ignores any exploits done before the corresponding
patch is released, and any viruses received before the corresponding
signature has been added to the scanner database.

IMHO it is much better to rely on good security configuration (using
an account that has no administrator privileges, using a policy that
forbids execution of programs from user-writable locations, using a
firewall) than those after-the-fact techniques.
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>
> Is Automatic Updates set to the Automatic, the 'Notify Only' option, or the
> "Download but..." option?


"Notify only", probably (second radiobutton). I.e. it downloads updates, and
then I see when it's suitable for me to install it. I've got a localized
Windows version, so I can't see original English text.
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
> EasyPoint is made by Fellowes. Try here for a driver
> http://www.fellowes.com/fellowes/site/support/support_softwaredrivers_mice.aspx.
> See if your mouse is listed. If not directly, then maybe by a similar
> description.
> --
> SC Tom


Didn't help either. See, there are 3 different mices in my house, made by
(most probably) 3 different manufacturers, acting all alike. How could there
be any need for EXACT driver for some certain mouse? Especially, taken into
account that it worked perfectly before.
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Mammoth <Mammoth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> EasyPoint is made by Fellowes. Try here for a driver
>> http://www.fellowes.com/fellowes/site/support/support_softwaredrivers_mice.aspx.
>> See if your mouse is listed. If not directly, then maybe by a similar
>> description.
>> --
>> SC Tom

>
> Didn't help either. See, there are 3 different mices in my house, made by
> (most probably) 3 different manufacturers, acting all alike. How could there
> be any need for EXACT driver for some certain mouse? Especially, taken into
> account that it worked perfectly before.


I have never seen such problems when using one of those standard mice
(logitec or equivalent) with a generic driver. I think the main reason
that every manufacturer provides his own driver is that they cannot just
point to another manufacturer's driver for licensing reasons. Otherwise,
all of those drivers should act just the same. Most likely the mouse
will continue to work fine when you just remove the driver alltogether and
let windows fall back to its default driver for USB or PS/2 mouse.

The problem with Internet Explorer is that it allows for uncontrolled
extension of functionality by addons. This may seem attractive at first,
but it essentially means you have an undefined product that still presents
itself under a wellknown name, but may act like something completely
different. What I call Internet Explorer 8 may work fine on my computer,
but on your computer it is a different beast and it acts up. Maybe some
trojan has installed an extension that causes this problem, or maybe
some software package has installed an extension that worked fine with
previous versions of Internet Explorer but now causes problems with the
current version. You never know until you have removed all crap or even
have re-installed an entire system.
How Microsoft can allow such a quality problem into its product is
beyond me...
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Flightless Bird
"Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
news:slrni1osda.j9g.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...
> Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejuExJzDLHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>>>
>>> Is Automatic Updates set to the Automatic, the 'Notify Only' option, or
>>> the "Download but..." option?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> How does that help fix the mouse problem that is reported AFTER the
>> Automatic Update has already been accomplished?

>
> In PA Bear's mind, all problems are prevented by having your computer
> fully patched and your virus scanner subscription current.
>
> Of course this completely ignores any exploits done before the
> corresponding
> patch is released, and any viruses received before the corresponding
> signature has been added to the scanner database.
>
> IMHO it is much better to rely on good security configuration (using
> an account that has no administrator privileges, using a policy that
> forbids execution of programs from user-writable locations, using a
> firewall) than those after-the-fact techniques.



That STILL doesn't address the question of, "how does that help fix the
mouse AFTER Automatic Updates have been accomplished?" The OP STATED that
his problem started after he did the Automatic Update, so my question is,
why did PA Bear give directions on how to configure the automatic updates?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Mammoth wrote:
>> A problem has happened yesterday: when using IE8 (latest update), browser
>> sometimes takes my normal left-click as double click. Keyword is
>> "sometimes" - i.e. this isn't some mouse settings problem. For example, I
>> click on
>> some menu (like "Tools") - it drops down (as is should). I click it
>> again - it
>> hides. Then I click it again - it shows and hides again in a blink. Or,
>> for a change, I click when menu is open - it closes and reopens back
>> instantly. In most cases I have to click like 10 times until I get this
>> effect; on
>> the other hand, sometimes it goes "stuck", and takes my click as
>> double-click
>> several times in the row. Likewise, clicking on window upper bar
>> sometimes
>> makes it maximize/shrink (the way it responds to double-click). Clicking
>> on
>> "back" button makes browser go 2 pages back, and so forth.
>>
>> The funny part starts when I click slowly (i.e. press left mouse, hold
>> it,
>> release). Usually it responds the right way: pressing opens menu,
>> releasing does nothing. On the other hand, sometimes menu opens when
>> button goes
>> down, and closes when it goes up. Sometimes it even opens and insta
>> closes when
>> I hold it, and does nothing when I release it!
>>
>> This is not a hardware or human problem: it appears using any of 3 mices
>> connected to at any of 2 computers, happens when either me or my wife
>> clicks it. Moreover, it never happens when I start Windows from a
>> bootable CD.
>>
>> The problem never occurs when I just click on icons (single click never
>> launches an application) or folders (single click never opens them).
>>
>> It still exists when I restart in safe mode.
>>
>> I've installed IntelliMouse and checked settings - nothing is wrong, as
>> far as I can see.
>>
>> This is not a virus/malware problem, most probably: my computers are
>> behind
>> a hardware firewall (router), NOD32 is always on and updated, on top of
>> that I've just checked my comp with DrWeb and AVZ - nothing is found.
>>
>> Disabling all IE addons didn't help either.
>>
>> I didn't install any new software lately. However, Adobe Flash Player
>> ActiveX has updated itself on both our computers up to v.10 (and yes I
>> need it). This is the only reason I can think of atm...
>>
>> Windows XP 32, SP3. Core2Quad 2.4GHz, 4Gb RAM, a lot of free disk space.

>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
>>
>> Is Automatic Updates set to the Automatic, the 'Notify Only' option, or
>> the
>> "Download but..." option?

>
> "Notify only", probably (second radiobutton). I.e. it downloads updates,
> and
> then I see when it's suitable for me to install it. I've got a localized
> Windows version, so I can't see original English text.


1. Did you recently approve & install any driver updates offered by
Automatic Updates? (NB: Such updates will not be listed in Add/Remove
Programs nor IIRC in Update History section at Windows Update website.)

2. Did you recently install an Intellipoint driver update manually?

3. If you purchase an inexpensive, brand-new wired mouse & use it on either
of the computers, does the behavior persist?

4. Control Panel | Mouse | Buttons (tab) | Double-click speed | Speed: If
you move the slider incrementally to the left & test, does the behavior
persist?

5. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed IE8 and/or SP3?

6. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
it)?
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That STILL doesn't address the question of, "how does that help fix the
> mouse AFTER Automatic Updates have been accomplished?" The OP STATED that
> his problem started after he did the Automatic Update, so my question is,
> why did PA Bear give directions on how to configure the automatic updates?


PA Bear never reads back to a previous message. All the info he works
on has to be in the message he is replying to. That is also why he
so frantically forces everyone to quote his entire message in their
replies: when they don't, he has no way of knowing to what questions
the answers were given.
(in my newsreader I can step back through the thread to get such info,
but apparently in his newsreader this cannot be done or he does not know
how to do it)

So, when the thread is going for a while he routinely asks questions that
were answered before, or gives answers that ignore information that was
given before.
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
> 1. Did you recently approve & install any driver updates offered by
> Automatic Updates? (NB: Such updates will not be listed in Add/Remove
> Programs nor IIRC in Update History section at Windows Update website.)


Well, certanly I've installed some updates lately - I'm just not really sure
if it was right before this bug appears, or several days before that...

> 2. Did you recently install an Intellipoint driver update manually?


I've installed Intellipoint AFTER the fun began - in attempts to fix it.

> 3. If you purchase an inexpensive, brand-new wired mouse & use it on either
> of the computers, does the behavior persist?


All of my 3 mices are rather inexpensive. Not that they are brand-new, but I
don't feel like buying 4th one. Because of the simple reason, remember: the
same mices work well when I reboot from a Windows Live CD. I guess problem is
in some lately installed soft (like windows updates, or some IE plugins, or
even a trojan).

> 4. Control Panel | Mouse | Buttons (tab) | Double-click speed | Speed: If
> you move the slider incrementally to the left & test, does the behavior
> persist?


Yes.

> 5. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
> in the background when you installed IE8 and/or SP3?


As I've said in the main message:

> >> This is not a virus/malware problem, most probably: my computers are
> >> behind
> >> a hardware firewall (router), NOD32 is always on and updated, on top of
> >> that I've just checked my comp with DrWeb and AVZ - nothing is found.


Not sure what I've installed first, but my bet it is NOD (as I install
Windows with SP2 included, then probably install NOD, then I connect to
internet to download SP3). But hey, it worked fine until now!

> 6. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
> it)?


No. I use NOD32 for many years, and I don't experiment with any other
resident anti-virus soft. I reinstall Windows - I install NOD - I don't try
any other (except for irregular checks with non-resident progs like DrWeb),
ever.
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Flightless Bird
"Mammoth" <Mammoth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:052A1DF4-F9A9-485F-A820-EC160873EE11@microsoft.com...
>> 1. Did you recently approve & install any driver updates offered by
>> Automatic Updates? (NB: Such updates will not be listed in Add/Remove
>> Programs nor IIRC in Update History section at Windows Update website.)

>
> Well, certanly I've installed some updates lately - I'm just not really
> sure
> if it was right before this bug appears, or several days before that...
>
>> 2. Did you recently install an Intellipoint driver update manually?

>
> I've installed Intellipoint AFTER the fun began - in attempts to fix it.
>
>> 3. If you purchase an inexpensive, brand-new wired mouse & use it on
>> either
>> of the computers, does the behavior persist?

>
> All of my 3 mices are rather inexpensive. Not that they are brand-new, but
> I
> don't feel like buying 4th one. Because of the simple reason, remember:
> the
> same mices work well when I reboot from a Windows Live CD. I guess problem
> is
> in some lately installed soft (like windows updates, or some IE plugins,
> or
> even a trojan).
>


My money is on the trojan.

There's no reason for the mouse to misbehave due to reasons brought about by
the application.

I think your issues are (in order) a bad mouse (or several) or the improper
drivers for the mouse, or a virus.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
[C'mon, October 1st!]

Mammoth wrote:
>> 1. Did you recently approve & install any driver updates offered by
>> Automatic Updates? (NB: Such updates will not be listed in Add/Remove
>> Programs nor IIRC in Update History section at Windows Update website.)

>
> Well, certanly I've installed some updates lately - I'm just not really
> sure
> if it was right before this bug appears, or several days before that...

<snip>
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
> My money is on the trojan.
>
> There's no reason for the mouse to misbehave due to reasons brought about by
> the application.
>
> I think your issues are (in order) a bad mouse (or several) or the improper
> drivers for the mouse, or a virus.


Well, I don't believe 3 mices can die at the same day. Drivers... I'm still
curious: how can they (default windows drivers, I didn't install anything
special until this crap started to happen) do their job well on both
computers, and then just break? There HAS to be some software lately
installed on my comp, breaking normal mouse behaviour. Trojan, or some buggy
microshit updates, or whatever... THE question is: how to find and destroy it
without reinstalling Windows?
 
J

Jeff Strickland

Flightless Bird
"Mammoth" <Mammoth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C4955B3D-9293-4A2A-8A21-2BAC66F2296B@microsoft.com...
>> My money is on the trojan.
>>
>> There's no reason for the mouse to misbehave due to reasons brought about
>> by
>> the application.
>>
>> I think your issues are (in order) a bad mouse (or several) or the
>> improper
>> drivers for the mouse, or a virus.

>
> Well, I don't believe 3 mices can die at the same day. Drivers... I'm
> still
> curious: how can they (default windows drivers, I didn't install anything
> special until this crap started to happen) do their job well on both
> computers, and then just break? There HAS to be some software lately
> installed on my comp, breaking normal mouse behaviour. Trojan, or some
> buggy
> microshit updates, or whatever... THE question is: how to find and destroy
> it
> without reinstalling Windows?



The Intellipoint/Intellimouse drivers are not the default Windows mouse
drivers. They are upgraded drivers for mice that you purchase through retail
channels. If you're not using a Microsoft Mouse, but are using
IntelliPoint/IntelliMouse drivers, then the driver/hardware mismatch can be
causing trouble.

When you use the Control Panel and go into the Mouse settings and make
changes to the click speed, then test that the Double Click speed works at a
comfortable level for the way you double click, do you get false-positives
on the double click?

If the mouse(mice) works on a different computer, but does not work on this
computer, then the driver OR the circuits on the motherboard are suspect. If
you have been using a PS2 mouse(mice), try one that's USB-based.

Whatever your problem is, it isn't IE8.

I don't know of any virus that will cause the mouse to double click, but
there's no reason I can think of that such a virus couldn't exist. If you
are laboring under a virual enhancement, then you're gonna have some work to
do. I don't know of any way to remove a virus short of reinstalling Windows.
If you could find the file that carries the virus and remove it, or replace
it with the correct file, this could work. The trouble is, you gotta find
the affected file.
 
B

Bob Lucas

Flightless Bird
You seem to be using a generic mouse with Microst Intellipoint
drivers.

In common with other contributors to this newsgroup, I suspect
you are using an inappropriate driver. If you are not using a
Microsoft Intellipoint mouse, you definitely do not require
dedicated Intellipoint software on your computer. Furthermore,
Intellipoint drivers might not work properly with generic mice.

You could try the following:

Create a Restore Point (just in case)
Make sure the mouse is connected to your computer
Open Control Panel and click on 'Add or Remove Programs'.
Scroll down the list of programs and look for Microsoft
Intellipoint software.
If it is present, remove Intellipoint from your computer.
Reboot.
Windows XP will probably search for new plug & play hardware, and
install the generic mouse driver.

If that doesn't work (or you can't find any Intellipoint
software), open Control Panel again.
Then, click on System / Hardware / Device Manager
Scroll down the hardware list - and expand the entry for Mice and
other pointing devices
Right click on the name of the mouse .you are using
Click on Properties and select the 'Driver' tab.
Click on 'Roll back driver'. Hopefully, this will restore a
generic Windows driver.

If that doesn't work, return to the hardware list in Device
Manager.
Scroll down the list and expand the entry for Mice and other
pointing devices
Right click on the name of the mouse you are using - and click on
uninstall.
Re-boot your computer.
Hopefully, Win XP will search for new plug & play hardware - and
install the correct generic mouse driver


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hvla94$1bt$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Mammoth" <Mammoth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C4955B3D-9293-4A2A-8A21-2BAC66F2296B@microsoft.com...
>>> My money is on the trojan.
>>>
>>> There's no reason for the mouse to misbehave due to reasons
>>> brought about by
>>> the application.
>>>
>>> I think your issues are (in order) a bad mouse (or several)
>>> or the improper
>>> drivers for the mouse, or a virus.

>>
>> Well, I don't believe 3 mices can die at the same day.
>> Drivers... I'm still
>> curious: how can they (default windows drivers, I didn't
>> install anything
>> special until this crap started to happen) do their job well
>> on both
>> computers, and then just break? There HAS to be some software
>> lately
>> installed on my comp, breaking normal mouse behaviour. Trojan,
>> or some buggy
>> microshit updates, or whatever... THE question is: how to find
>> and destroy it
>> without reinstalling Windows?

>
>
> The Intellipoint/Intellimouse drivers are not the default
> Windows mouse drivers. They are upgraded drivers for mice that
> you purchase through retail channels. If you're not using a
> Microsoft Mouse, but are using IntelliPoint/IntelliMouse
> drivers, then the driver/hardware mismatch can be causing
> trouble.
>
> When you use the Control Panel and go into the Mouse settings
> and make changes to the click speed, then test that the Double
> Click speed works at a comfortable level for the way you double
> click, do you get false-positives on the double click?
>
> If the mouse(mice) works on a different computer, but does not
> work on this computer, then the driver OR the circuits on the
> motherboard are suspect. If you have been using a PS2
> mouse(mice), try one that's USB-based.
>
> Whatever your problem is, it isn't IE8.
>
> I don't know of any virus that will cause the mouse to double
> click, but there's no reason I can think of that such a virus
> couldn't exist. If you are laboring under a virual enhancement,
> then you're gonna have some work to do. I don't know of any way
> to remove a virus short of reinstalling Windows. If you could
> find the file that carries the virus and remove it, or replace
> it with the correct file, this could work. The trouble is, you
> gotta find the affected file.
>
>
>
>
>
>
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
> The Intellipoint/Intellimouse drivers are not the default Windows mouse
> drivers. They are upgraded drivers for mice that you purchase through retail
> channels. If you're not using a Microsoft Mouse, but are using
> IntelliPoint/IntelliMouse drivers, then the driver/hardware mismatch can be
> causing trouble.


Well, the bug appeared _before_ I installed Intellipoint. Or rather, I've
installed it in attempt to nuke this bug.

> When you use the Control Panel and go into the Mouse settings and make
> changes to the click speed, then test that the Double Click speed works at a
> comfortable level for the way you double click, do you get false-positives
> on the double click?


I did it already (forgot to report it, probably). Didn't help at all. Even
at highest delay between clicks in settings (leftmost position) it still
produces "double-clicks" after single-click or even after just pressing left
button. The same for the rightmost. You see, menu doesn't care for
double-clicks - there are no special actions for it, it just opens/closes for
each click.

> If the mouse(mice) works on a different computer, but does not work on this
> computer, then the driver OR the circuits on the motherboard are suspect. If
> you have been using a PS2 mouse(mice), try one that's USB-based.


Each mouse on each computer shows the same behavior atm. As I've said, the
bug appeared on both computers at the same day. So that's some kind of
self-reproducting in a local network trojan, or updates which are
auto-downloaded on each computer.

> Whatever your problem is, it isn't IE8.


Yeah, I've notices it now, too: the same crap happens in the ICQ client with
no IE copies in memory. However, it still never affects Windows Explorer (My
Computer). Funny, isn't it?...

> I don't know of any way to remove a virus short of reinstalling Windows.
> If you could find the file that carries the virus and remove it, or replace
> it with the correct file, this could work. The trouble is, you gotta find
> the affected file.


Exactly. That's why I'll have to reinstall Windows in case I don't find and
nuke it in some days - because it's pain in the @$$ to work on a computer
like this...
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
[Mouses do wear out over time. I'm using one right now & am seeing some of
what you describe 30-40% of the time recently. FWIW I got a brand-new mouse
(same type) out & I don't see the behavior at all when I'm using it.]


Mammoth wrote:
>> The Intellipoint/Intellimouse drivers are not the default Windows mouse
>> drivers. They are upgraded drivers for mice that you purchase through
>> retail channels. If you're not using a Microsoft Mouse, but are using
>> IntelliPoint/IntelliMouse drivers, then the driver/hardware mismatch can
>> be
>> causing trouble.

>
> Well, the bug appeared _before_ I installed Intellipoint. Or rather, I've
> installed it in attempt to nuke this bug.
>
>> When you use the Control Panel and go into the Mouse settings and make
>> changes to the click speed, then test that the Double Click speed works
>> at
>> a comfortable level for the way you double click, do you get
>> false-positives on the double click?

>
> I did it already (forgot to report it, probably). Didn't help at all. Even
> at highest delay between clicks in settings (leftmost position) it still
> produces "double-clicks" after single-click or even after just pressing
> left
> button. The same for the rightmost. You see, menu doesn't care for
> double-clicks - there are no special actions for it, it just opens/closes
> for each click.
>
>> If the mouse(mice) works on a different computer, but does not work on
>> this
>> computer, then the driver OR the circuits on the motherboard are suspect.
>> If you have been using a PS2 mouse(mice), try one that's USB-based.

>
> Each mouse on each computer shows the same behavior atm. As I've said, the
> bug appeared on both computers at the same day. So that's some kind of
> self-reproducting in a local network trojan, or updates which are
> auto-downloaded on each computer.
>
>> Whatever your problem is, it isn't IE8.

>
> Yeah, I've notices it now, too: the same crap happens in the ICQ client
> with
> no IE copies in memory. However, it still never affects Windows Explorer
> (My
> Computer). Funny, isn't it?...
>
>> I don't know of any way to remove a virus short of reinstalling Windows.
>> If you could find the file that carries the virus and remove it, or
>> replace
>> it with the correct file, this could work. The trouble is, you gotta find
>> the affected file.

>
> Exactly. That's why I'll have to reinstall Windows in case I don't find
> and
> nuke it in some days - because it's pain in the @$$ to work on a computer
> like this...
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
> Make sure the mouse is connected to your computer
> Open Control Panel and click on 'Add or Remove Programs'.
> Scroll down the list of programs and look for Microsoft
> Intellipoint software.
> If it is present, remove Intellipoint from your computer.
> Reboot.
> Windows XP will probably search for new plug & play hardware, and
> install the generic mouse driver.


Uninstalled it. Didn't help at all.

> If that doesn't work, return to the hardware list in Device
> Manager.
> Scroll down the list and expand the entry for Mice and other
> pointing devices
> Right click on the name of the mouse you are using - and click on
> uninstall.
> Re-boot your computer.
> Hopefully, Win XP will search for new plug & play hardware - and
> install the correct generic mouse driver


Did that. No effect... but thanks anyway.
 
M

Mammoth

Flightless Bird
Well, so far so good: further anti-virus testing raised a rootkit warning -
"spcm.sys". Though, the problem is that I'm unable ot find it (using search),
I'm unable to trace its startup (can't find in registry), and virus checker
which has found it - died as soon as I've ordered it to delete this file...

Now the question is: how do I find it?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
In his first post in this thread, Mammoth had already concluded:
> This is not a virus/malware problem...


See...

Cleaning a Compromised System
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc700813.aspx

Back-up any personal data (none of which should be considered 100%
trustworthy at this point) then format the HDD & do a clean install of
Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place upgrade) will NOT
fix this!

HOW TO do a clean install of WinXP: See
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps and/or Method 1 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978307

After the clean install, you will have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a local network (i.e., other computers) and
before using a flash drive or SDCard that isn't brand-new or hasn't been
freshly formatted:

4 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/security/pypc.aspx

Other helpful references include:

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
(after a clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed33e121c

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP1(a) or SP2 fully patched (after a
clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b

Tip: After getting the computer fully-patched, download/install KB971029
manually: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971029

NB: Any Norton or McAfee free-trial that came preinstalled on the computer
when you bought it will be reinstalled (but invalid) when Windows is
reinstalled. You MUST uninstall the free-trial AND download/run the
appropriate removal tool BEFORE installing any updates, Windows Service
Packs or IE upgrades AND BEFORE installing your new anti-virus application
(which will require WinXP SP3 to be installed).

Norton Removal Tool
ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/removal_tools/Norton_Removal_Tool.exe

McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool
http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe

Also see:

Risks & Benefits of P2P file sharing
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/data/downloadfileshare/filesharing.aspx
http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archive/2008/10/06/the-cost-of-free-software.aspx

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/security/spyware/prevent.aspx

Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
http://www.microsoft.com/security/worms/prevent.aspx

Avoid Rogue Security Software!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/rogue.aspx
--
~PA Bear


Mammoth wrote:
> Well, so far so good: further anti-virus testing raised a rootkit
> warning -
> "spcm.sys". Though, the problem is that I'm unable ot find it (using
> search), I'm unable to trace its startup (can't find in registry), and
> virus checker which has found it - died as soon as I've ordered it to
> delete this file...
>
> Now the question is: how do I find it?
 
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