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SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Andy, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

    Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
    suite.

    I visited the Symantec website and "System Requirements" indicated they
    have the Win7 x64 version. I thought that was a step in the right
    direction.

    I downloaded it and prepared to install it, then I thought I better read
    the EULA. AM I GLAD I DID.

    They're able to install some pretty intrusive "criminal" (???) detection
    softwares at their convenience without the user's consent. They can also
    gather up and send every URL and search term you've used, among other
    datas.

    This Norton software is more an invasion of privacy ("Big Brother") than
    security software, imho. I canceled the install.

    If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
    carefully!

    Andy
     
  2. Agent_C

    Agent_C Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:58 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:

    >Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
    >suite.


    AFAIC, Microsoft Internet Security is a complete game changer.

    Better than McAfee or Norton, free and unobtrusive.

    A_C
     
  3. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "Agent_C" <Agent-C-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:lm5to5tf7j4odu4u9mr7d0bjfvhfrg26vt@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:58 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >
    >>Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
    >>suite.

    >
    > AFAIC, Microsoft Internet Security is a complete game changer.
    >
    > Better than McAfee or Norton, free and unobtrusive.
    >
    > A_C


    When I switched I had found a review that rated MSIS as high or higher than
    many of the big names. Only drawback is that it's not a suite, due to the
    howling by the big names MS might have limited it just to get it out.
    Anyway, been using it for appx 3-4 months now and really like it.
    YMMV, YRMBD, and etc.
    Dave
     
  4. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D307A8E4569Cotd@216.196.97.131...
    > SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.


    >
    > If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
    > carefully!
    >
    > Andy
    >
    >


    When I see anything that says Norton or Symantec I pass on it. I would not
    care if they were paying me to use it. I tried some of their stuff years ago
    and it was nothing but problems. I hear more complaints about their stuff
    than all the others combined.
    --
    How's all that "hope and change" working out for you so far?
     
  5. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote in message
    news:nvednTBLjv4lBxPWnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >


    >
    > When I switched I had found a review that rated MSIS as high or higher
    > than many of the big names. Only drawback is that it's not a suite, due to
    > the howling by the big names MS might have limited it just to get it out.
    > Anyway, been using it for appx 3-4 months now and really like it.
    > YMMV, YRMBD, and etc.
    > Dave


    I tried the MS on one machine soon after it was done. Liked it so much I
    switched them all to it. It works great on 3 different OS's.
    --
    There are two kinds of people in the electorate:
    People who remember how horrible the Jimmy Carter years were; and those who
    are
    about to find out.
     
  6. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    Agent_C <Agent-C-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

    > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:02:58 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >
    >>Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the

    McAfee
    >>suite.

    >
    > AFAIC, Microsoft Internet Security is a complete game changer.
    >
    > Better than McAfee or Norton, free and unobtrusive.
    >
    > A_C



    Agent_C,

    Does the MSIS reside somewhere under the hood of Win7? x64? Or is it a
    separate download? URL?

    I'm all in favor of unobtrusive!!!

    For years I've gotten safely by with SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search &
    Destroy w/TeaTimer, etc., etc.

    Thanks,

    Andy
     
  7. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D308AA90358DCotd@216.196.97.131...

    > Does the MSIS reside somewhere under the hood of Win7? x64? Or is it a
    > separate download? URL?
    >
    > I'm all in favor of unobtrusive!!!
    >


    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Andy


    <http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/>

    From their site you can choose 32 or 64 . I use it on XP 32 bit, Vista 32
    bit, and 2 Win.7 64 bit.

    --
    The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
    Will Rogers
     
  8. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Alex Clayton wrote:
    > "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9D308AA90358DCotd@216.196.97.131...
    >
    >> Does the MSIS reside somewhere under the hood of Win7? x64? Or is
    >> it a separate download? URL?
    >>
    >> I'm all in favor of unobtrusive!!!
    >>

    >
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > <http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/>
    >
    > From their site you can choose 32 or 64 . I use it on XP 32 bit,
    > Vista 32 bit, and 2 Win.7 64 bit.
    >

    If I install Windows Security Essentials and change my mind, can I
    uninstall easily and completely? Or does it require major surgery to
    get rid of, like Symantec?

    --
    Crash

    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
    ~ Samuel Johnson ~
     
  9. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    "Alex Clayton" <Alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9D308AA90358DCotd@216.196.97.131...
    >
    >> Does the MSIS reside somewhere under the hood of Win7? x64? Or is it
    >> a separate download? URL?
    >>
    >> I'm all in favor of unobtrusive!!!
    >>

    >
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > <http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/>
    >
    > From their site you can choose 32 or 64 . I use it on XP 32 bit, Vista
    > 32 bit, and 2 Win.7 64 bit.



    Alex Clayton,

    Thanks for the URL.

    The x64 install was painless. It's running through the initial scan at
    the moment.

    I'm hesitant to give up SpywareBlaster after so many years. There's also
    probably some redundancy between Spybot Search & Destroy, Windows
    Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials all of which don't run as
    background tasks so conflicts are slim, I'm guessing. Being current is
    most important.

    Best,

    Andy
     
  10. Trev

    Trev Flightless Bird

    "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D307A8E4569Cotd@216.196.97.131...
    > SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.
    >
    > Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
    > suite.
    >
    > I visited the Symantec website and "System Requirements" indicated they
    > have the Win7 x64 version. I thought that was a step in the right
    > direction.
    >
    > I downloaded it and prepared to install it, then I thought I better read
    > the EULA. AM I GLAD I DID.
    >
    > They're able to install some pretty intrusive "criminal" (???) detection
    > softwares at their convenience without the user's consent. They can also
    > gather up and send every URL and search term you've used, among other
    > datas.
    >
    > This Norton software is more an invasion of privacy ("Big Brother") than
    > security software, imho. I canceled the install.
    >
    > If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
    > carefully!
    >
    > Andy


    I would not worry about what it can tell. It will not let your computer Work
    Its worse then a Virus.
     
  11. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    "Trev" <trev_uk@hotmail.com invalid> wrote:

    > I would not worry about what it can tell. It will not let your
    > computer Work Its worse then a Virus.



    Trev,

    It was EXACTLY like a virus!!!!!!

    I was running ZoneAlarms (free) and made it "Ask" for Norton's access.

    It wanted such constant access in and outbound that I saw no better
    solution than to delete it.

    The new laptop (Win7 x64) came with Norton trialware installed. Exact
    same intrusive behavior.

    What was I thinking, taking up Comcast's free offer???

    For the record, McAfee was pretty intrusive as well!

    Best,

    Andy
     
  12. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D30964AEE9C1Cotd@216.196.97.131...

    >
    >
    > Alex Clayton,
    >
    > Thanks for the URL.
    >
    > The x64 install was painless. It's running through the initial scan at
    > the moment.
    >
    > I'm hesitant to give up SpywareBlaster after so many years. There's also
    > probably some redundancy between Spybot Search & Destroy, Windows
    > Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials all of which don't run as
    > background tasks so conflicts are slim, I'm guessing. Being current is
    > most important.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy
    >


    From what the experts have told me, having several malware programs is fine,
    and many seem to think it's best. What they tell me not to do is have more
    than 1 antivirus program running. If you want to keep things for spyware it
    should never be a problem.
    --
    Things get better with age. I'm approaching magnificent!!
     
  13. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jUyjn.3601$3D3.1330@newsfe19.iad...

    > If I install Windows Security Essentials and change my mind, can I
    > uninstall easily and completely? Or does it require major surgery to
    > get rid of, like Symantec?
    >
    > --


    Don't know. I have never had trouble with it since I tried it. I have not,
    yet, been reading anything bad about it though. Norton OTOH seems to be
    forever pissing people off.
    --
    There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
    learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
    find out for themselves.
    Will Rogers
     
  14. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D309B9FCCA05Cotd@216.196.97.131...

    >
    > For the record, McAfee was pretty intrusive as well!
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy


    I used McAfee for several years, and all was fine. Then at one update,
    things would not work. I then found out about free stuff like AVG. Dropped
    McAfee, and that was when the fun started. They will not answer the phone
    when you try to cancel. I gave up. The next time it was due they charged my
    card. I spent :45 on the phone, then gave up and called the bank and did a
    charge back. Next year, same thing. This time I did not bother with them,
    just went strait to the bank. Next year same thing, even though bank had
    changed the numbers on the account. Bank could not give me a strait answer
    how they managed to charge again, but said if they did it again they were
    going to file fraud charges next. That was the last time I heard from them.
    AVG worked great for years as did Avast. Only problem was now and then a
    Windows update would cause problems. That was why I figured I would try the
    MS program. I figure they will be less likely to send out an update that
    screws with their own stuff. Only time will tell, but so far with several
    updates on 3 OS's, everything keeps working fine.
    --
    There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
    learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
    find out for themselves.
    Will Rogers
     
  15. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:18:00 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:

    >The new laptop (Win7 x64) came with Norton trialware installed. Exact
    >same intrusive behavior.
    >
    >What was I thinking, taking up Comcast's free offer???
    >
    >For the record, McAfee was pretty intrusive as well!


    New computers can benefit greatly from decrapifying, i.e., getting rid
    of the trialware and other crap that most people don't want. The
    decrapifier program allows you to choose what to keep or remove.
    Highly recommended.

    http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
     
  16. William Baldwin

    William Baldwin Flightless Bird

    Andy <a@b.c> wrote in news:Xns9D307A8E4569Cotd@216.196.97.131:

    > SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.
    >
    > Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the
    > McAfee suite.


    Frying pan...fire
     
  17. Bob Hatch

    Bob Hatch Flightless Bird

    On 3/3/2010 10:02 AM, Andy wrote:
    > SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.
    >
    > Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
    > suite.
    >
    > I visited the Symantec website and "System Requirements" indicated they
    > have the Win7 x64 version. I thought that was a step in the right
    > direction.
    >
    > I downloaded it and prepared to install it, then I thought I better read
    > the EULA. AM I GLAD I DID.
    >
    > They're able to install some pretty intrusive "criminal" (???) detection
    > softwares at their convenience without the user's consent. They can also
    > gather up and send every URL and search term you've used, among other
    > datas.
    >
    > This Norton software is more an invasion of privacy ("Big Brother") than
    > security software, imho. I canceled the install.
    >
    > If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
    > carefully!
    >
    > Andy


    I can't think of a person I dislike enough to install any Norton program
    on their computer. :)


    --
    "Never argue with an idiot, they will knock you
    down to their level and beat you with experience."
    Unknown

    http://www.bobhatch.com
    http://www.tdsrvresort.com
     
  18. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    > New computers can benefit greatly from decrapifying, i.e., getting rid
    > of the trialware and other crap that most people don't want. The
    > decrapifier program allows you to choose what to keep or remove.
    > Highly recommended.
    >
    > http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/



    Char Jackson,

    I've used PC Decrapifier for years on previous laptops, I just forgot to
    install it this time around on the new Win7 box.

    Thanks for reminding me!

    Best,

    Andy
     
  19. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    William Baldwin <wbaldwin@example.com> wrote:

    > Andy <a@b.c> wrote in news:Xns9D307A8E4569Cotd@216.196.97.131:
    >
    >> SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.
    >>
    >> Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the
    >> McAfee suite.

    >
    > Frying pan...fire



    William Baldwin,

    Too TRUE!

    Best,

    Andy
     
  20. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:54:01 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:

    >Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> New computers can benefit greatly from decrapifying, i.e., getting rid
    >> of the trialware and other crap that most people don't want. The
    >> decrapifier program allows you to choose what to keep or remove.
    >> Highly recommended.
    >>
    >> http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

    >
    >
    >Char Jackson,
    >
    >I've used PC Decrapifier for years on previous laptops, I just forgot to
    >install it this time around on the new Win7 box.
    >
    >Thanks for reminding me!
    >
    >Best,
    >
    >Andy


    Glad to help. :)
     

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