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Running CHKDSK--Issue

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Joe McGuire, May 26, 2010.

  1. Joe McGuire

    Joe McGuire Flightless Bird

    I ran (or thought I ran) CHKDSK. when I staarted to do so it told me files
    were open and I checked to have it run on reboot. Then I rebooted the
    computer and left for dinner and some errands. When I returned to the
    computer maybe 2 hours later It was very nicely booted up and my screensaver
    was at work. So my question is: How can I tell if CHKDSK actually ran,
    whether it found anything (I had run a diagnostic on a startup earlier in
    the day and it reported 3 errors: (1) 1000-0146 Hard drive; (2) 3600:0649
    Invalid AC Adapter; and (3) 0f00:136c IDE device failed) and what it did, if
    anything? I know it is supposed to provide a report. If it did so, where
    can I find it? If it did not run, is there a reason? I ran it from My
    Computer, not the command line. Does that make a difference?

    The AC adapter seems wierd. I was running on the battery. I have no idea
    what IDE means
     
  2. Volunteer J

    Volunteer J Flightless Bird

    Joe McGuire wrote:
    > I ran (or thought I ran) CHKDSK. when I staarted to do so it told me
    > files were open and I checked to have it run on reboot. Then I
    > rebooted the computer and left for dinner and some errands. When I
    > returned to the computer maybe 2 hours later It was very nicely
    > booted up and my screensaver was at work. So my question is: How can
    > I tell if CHKDSK actually ran, whether it found anything (I had run a
    > diagnostic on a startup earlier in the day and it reported 3 errors:
    > (1) 1000-0146 Hard drive; (2) 3600:0649 Invalid AC Adapter; and (3)
    > 0f00:136c IDE device failed) and what it did, if anything? I know it
    > is supposed to provide a report. If it did so, where can I find it? If it
    > did not run, is there a reason? I ran it from My Computer, not
    > the command line. Does that make a difference?
    > The AC adapter seems wierd. I was running on the battery. I have no
    > idea what IDE means

    ==============================================
    Try the following:

    In Windows XP to find the Error-checking log file...
    go to...Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer /
    Application / [Source] Wininit or Winlogon

    Double left the entry to see the log...you may find several
    entries...look for the appropriate time and date.

    --

    Volunteer J - MS-MVP
    Digital Media Experience

    Notice
    This is not tech support
    I am a volunteer

    Solutions that work for
    me may not work for you

    Proceed at your own risk
     
  3. Volunteer J

    Volunteer J Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Also...the following article may be worth a look:

    (315265) How to Perform Disk Error Checking (chkdsk)
    in Windows XP
    http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=315265

    --

    Volunteer J - MS-MVP
    Digital Media Experience

    Notice
    This is not tech support
    I am a volunteer

    Solutions that work for
    me may not work for you

    Proceed at your own risk

    =====================

    > Joe McGuire wrote:
    >> I ran (or thought I ran) CHKDSK. when I staarted to do so it told me
    >> files were open and I checked to have it run on reboot. Then I
    >> rebooted the computer and left for dinner and some errands. When I
    >> returned to the computer maybe 2 hours later It was very nicely
    >> booted up and my screensaver was at work. So my question is: How can
    >> I tell if CHKDSK actually ran, whether it found anything (I had run a
    >> diagnostic on a startup earlier in the day and it reported 3 errors:
    >> (1) 1000-0146 Hard drive; (2) 3600:0649 Invalid AC Adapter; and (3)
    >> 0f00:136c IDE device failed) and what it did, if anything? I know it
    >> is supposed to provide a report. If it did so, where can I find it?
    >> If it did not run, is there a reason? I ran it from My Computer, not
    >> the command line. Does that make a difference?
    >> The AC adapter seems wierd. I was running on the battery. I have no
    >> idea what IDE means

    > ==============================================
    > Try the following:
    >
    > In Windows XP to find the Error-checking log file...
    > go to...Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer /
    > Application / [Source] Wininit or Winlogon
    >
    > Double left the entry to see the log...you may find several
    > entries...look for the appropriate time and date.
     
  4. Joe McGuire

    Joe McGuire Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Thanks! I found the event viewer but nothing looks like the sort of report
    generated by CHKDSK. I'll try again.

    "Volunteer J" <oobie@doobie.zyx> wrote in message
    news:uKof16T$KHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Also...the following article may be worth a look:
    >
    > (315265) How to Perform Disk Error Checking (chkdsk)
    > in Windows XP
    > http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=315265
    >
    > --
    >
    > Volunteer J - MS-MVP
    > Digital Media Experience
    >
    > Notice
    > This is not tech support
    > I am a volunteer
    >
    > Solutions that work for
    > me may not work for you
    >
    > Proceed at your own risk
    >
    > =====================
    >
    >> Joe McGuire wrote:
    >>> I ran (or thought I ran) CHKDSK. when I staarted to do so it told me
    >>> files were open and I checked to have it run on reboot. Then I
    >>> rebooted the computer and left for dinner and some errands. When I
    >>> returned to the computer maybe 2 hours later It was very nicely
    >>> booted up and my screensaver was at work. So my question is: How can
    >>> I tell if CHKDSK actually ran, whether it found anything (I had run a
    >>> diagnostic on a startup earlier in the day and it reported 3 errors:
    >>> (1) 1000-0146 Hard drive; (2) 3600:0649 Invalid AC Adapter; and (3)
    >>> 0f00:136c IDE device failed) and what it did, if anything? I know it
    >>> is supposed to provide a report. If it did so, where can I find it?
    >>> If it did not run, is there a reason? I ran it from My Computer, not
    >>> the command line. Does that make a difference?
    >>> The AC adapter seems wierd. I was running on the battery. I have no
    >>> idea what IDE means

    >> ==============================================
    >> Try the following:
    >>
    >> In Windows XP to find the Error-checking log file...
    >> go to...Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer /
    >> Application / [Source] Wininit or Winlogon
    >>
    >> Double left the entry to see the log...you may find several
    >> entries...look for the appropriate time and date.

    >
    >
    >
     
  5. Volunteer J

    Volunteer J Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Joe McGuire wrote:
    > Thanks! I found the event viewer but nothing looks like the sort of
    > report generated by CHKDSK. I'll try again.

    ======================================================
    The following screenshot will give you an idea of what you are looking for:
    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4644059256_e7f1b8cd85_o.jpg

    --

    Volunteer J - MS-MVP
    Digital Media Experience

    Notice
    This is not tech support
    I am a volunteer

    Solutions that work for
    me may not work for you

    Proceed at your own risk
     
  6. Johnw

    Johnw Flightless Bird

  7. Joe McGuire

    Joe McGuire Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Ah, now I understand. I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System instead
    of Applications). I see the results of CHKDSK. It shows 0 KB in bad
    sectors. Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?

    "Johnw" <johnmattmel@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:htkt6h$1r01$1@adenine.netfront.net...
    > After serious thinking Joe McGuire wrote :
    >> Thanks! I found the event viewer but nothing looks like the sort of
    >> report generated by CHKDSK. I'll try again.
    >>

    > Obtaining CHKDSK Results ( log file )
    > http://www.cpucare.net/OS/XP/Viewing ChkDSk Results.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
     
  8. Johnw

    Johnw Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Joe McGuire brought next idea :
    > Ah, now I understand. I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System instead of
    > Applications). I see the results of CHKDSK. It shows 0 KB in bad sectors.
    > Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?
    >

    Yep, that is why I googled for a link, to support the info from
    Volunteer J.

    Your HD is Ok.

    hard drive bad sectors

    http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&sou...=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=78fc47fc95da0446

    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1583&page=3

    http://www.topbits.com/bad-sector.html



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  9. Joe McGuire

    Joe McGuire Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    That's a relief! Thanks! But I am scratching my head. If there are no bad
    sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran report a
    bad HD? Are these different tests? Is one more reliable than the other?
    Did CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then report 0 kb in bad
    sectors? This laptop is 5 years old so I have had already been thinking it
    might be time for a new one--before this problem hit..

    "Johnw" <johnmattmel@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:htlk80$31a9$1@adenine.netfront.net...
    > Joe McGuire brought next idea :
    >> Ah, now I understand. I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System
    >> instead of Applications). I see the results of CHKDSK. It shows 0 KB in
    >> bad sectors. Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?
    >>

    > Yep, that is why I googled for a link, to support the info from Volunteer
    > J.
    >
    > Your HD is Ok.
    >
    > hard drive bad sectors
    >
    > http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&sou...=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=78fc47fc95da0446
    >
    > http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1583&page=3
    >
    > http://www.topbits.com/bad-sector.html
    >
    >
    >
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  10. Db

    Db Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    the check disk is also used
    to reconcile the files in the
    file system with the master
    file table.

    it is likely that your system
    appropriately advised you
    of an impending crash with
    the master file table and
    recommended a check disk.

    you might consider running
    a check disk and a defrag
    on a semi regular basis
    to keep both the file and
    disk system tuned up.

    the microsoft free one
    care online scanner is
    convenient to use.

    --
    --
    db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

    DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx


    "Joe McGuire" <mcguirejw@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:#LaMVwa$KHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > That's a relief! Thanks! But I am scratching my head. If there are no
    > bad sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran
    > report a bad HD? Are these different tests? Is one more reliable than
    > the other? Did CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then report
    > 0 kb in bad sectors? This laptop is 5 years old so I have had already
    > been thinking it might be time for a new one--before this problem hit..
    >
    > "Johnw" <johnmattmel@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:htlk80$31a9$1@adenine.netfront.net...
    >> Joe McGuire brought next idea :
    >>> Ah, now I understand. I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System
    >>> instead of Applications). I see the results of CHKDSK. It shows 0 KB
    >>> in bad sectors. Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?
    >>>

    >> Yep, that is why I googled for a link, to support the info from Volunteer
    >> J.
    >>
    >> Your HD is Ok.
    >>
    >> hard drive bad sectors
    >>
    >> http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&sou...=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=78fc47fc95da0446
    >>
    >> http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1583&page=3
    >>
    >> http://www.topbits.com/bad-sector.html
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

    >
    >
     
  11. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Joe McGuire wrote:
    > That's a relief! Thanks! But I am scratching my head. If there are no bad
    > sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran report a
    > bad HD? Are these different tests? Is one more reliable than the other?
    > Did CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then report 0 kb in bad
    > sectors? This laptop is 5 years old so I have had already been thinking it
    > might be time for a new one--before this problem hit..
    >


    Hard drives have something called SMART.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.

    If you enable SMART at the BIOS level, it is possible for the
    BIOS to "predict hard drive failure". It is based on some of the
    SMART parameter values being exceeded. A message might pop up when
    you turn on the computer, and the BIOS is sending the message to
    you.

    SMART can also be observed at the OS level. It can be observed
    as long as the necessary SMART query commands can be sent over
    the interface.

    If you have a SMART equipped drive, connected to some RAID controllers,
    it is possible for the SMART functions to be blocked, and then you lose
    the ability to predict hard drive failure. For example, Silicon Image
    makes some RAID controllers that emulate normal drives, where the SMART
    would be blocked due to the emulation (the controller cannot effectively
    combine the test results from two drives, to control the error stats for
    the emulated drive).

    You can use HDTune from hdtune.com, to view the current SMART statistics.
    Use the "Health" tab to view the data for your drive. And no, it isn't
    easy to understand the info in that table...

    http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe

    Even if there are no bad sectors, a drive still may not be healthy.
    Some other parameter may have been exceeded. Some of the SMART parameters
    are more important than others. For example "Current Pending Sector"
    is the number of sectors that need to be tested on the next write to them,
    as they've been flagged during attempts to read them. If they fail
    to be written on the next try, they need to be spared out. The drive
    has spare sectors, which can be used to substitute for defective ones.
    A large pending count could spell trouble, as it means there is
    degradation in process.

    If what you've seen is a SMART warning of impending failure, you'd
    *immediately* want to make a backup to an external drive. And perhaps
    start investigating the make, model number, capacity and so on, of
    the drive in the laptop, so you can buy a spare and have it on hand.
    A SMART based warning is precisely that, a warning. SMART doesn't know
    if the failure will be tomorrow or a year from now, but the writing
    is on the wall.

    Drives can fail, without any SMART parameter being exceeded in advance.
    For example, a firmware data structure in the drive controller, can
    overflow, and prevent the drive from starting up. That would be an
    example, where there isn't a mechanical failure mechanism at work,
    so no degradation can be observed in that case.

    Paul
     
  12. Joe McGuire

    Joe McGuire Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Thanks! I read about the SMART stuff and I will see if I can put it to
    work. Fortunately, I regulalry back everything up to an external drive.
    Learned that lesson some years ago. The hard way, of course.

    "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
    news:htmdg9$naf$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    > Joe McGuire wrote:
    >> That's a relief! Thanks! But I am scratching my head. If there are no
    >> bad sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran
    >> report a bad HD? Are these different tests? Is one more reliable than
    >> the other? Did CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then
    >> report 0 kb in bad sectors? This laptop is 5 years old so I have had
    >> already been thinking it might be time for a new one--before this problem
    >> hit..
    >>

    >
    > Hard drives have something called SMART.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
    >
    > If you enable SMART at the BIOS level, it is possible for the
    > BIOS to "predict hard drive failure". It is based on some of the
    > SMART parameter values being exceeded. A message might pop up when
    > you turn on the computer, and the BIOS is sending the message to
    > you.
    >
    > SMART can also be observed at the OS level. It can be observed
    > as long as the necessary SMART query commands can be sent over
    > the interface.
    >
    > If you have a SMART equipped drive, connected to some RAID controllers,
    > it is possible for the SMART functions to be blocked, and then you lose
    > the ability to predict hard drive failure. For example, Silicon Image
    > makes some RAID controllers that emulate normal drives, where the SMART
    > would be blocked due to the emulation (the controller cannot effectively
    > combine the test results from two drives, to control the error stats for
    > the emulated drive).
    >
    > You can use HDTune from hdtune.com, to view the current SMART statistics.
    > Use the "Health" tab to view the data for your drive. And no, it isn't
    > easy to understand the info in that table...
    >
    > http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe
    >
    > Even if there are no bad sectors, a drive still may not be healthy.
    > Some other parameter may have been exceeded. Some of the SMART parameters
    > are more important than others. For example "Current Pending Sector"
    > is the number of sectors that need to be tested on the next write to them,
    > as they've been flagged during attempts to read them. If they fail
    > to be written on the next try, they need to be spared out. The drive
    > has spare sectors, which can be used to substitute for defective ones.
    > A large pending count could spell trouble, as it means there is
    > degradation in process.
    >
    > If what you've seen is a SMART warning of impending failure, you'd
    > *immediately* want to make a backup to an external drive. And perhaps
    > start investigating the make, model number, capacity and so on, of
    > the drive in the laptop, so you can buy a spare and have it on hand.
    > A SMART based warning is precisely that, a warning. SMART doesn't know
    > if the failure will be tomorrow or a year from now, but the writing
    > is on the wall.
    >
    > Drives can fail, without any SMART parameter being exceeded in advance.
    > For example, a firmware data structure in the drive controller, can
    > overflow, and prevent the drive from starting up. That would be an
    > example, where there isn't a mechanical failure mechanism at work,
    > so no degradation can be observed in that case.
    >
    > Paul
     
  13. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    On May 27, 2:29 am, "Joe McGuire" <mcguir...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > Ah, now I understand.  I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System instead
    > of Applications).  I see the results of CHKDSK.  It shows 0 KB in bad
    > sectors.  Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?
    >
    > "Johnw" <johnmatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:htkt6h$1r01$1@adenine.netfront.net...
    >
    >
    >
    > > After serious thinking Joe McGuire wrote :
    > >> Thanks!  I found the event viewer but nothing looks like the sort of
    > >> report generated by CHKDSK.  I'll try again.

    >
    > > Obtaining CHKDSK Results ( log file )
    > >http://www.cpucare.net/OS/XP/Viewing ChkDSk Results.htm

    >
    > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...@netfront.net ---


    If you got an answer like this, you would have not had to go back and
    forth with messages and scratching your head saving a few useless
    message cycles:

    When chkdsk runs automatically on a reboot, the results are shown in
    the Event Viewer Application log.

    To see the Event Viewer logs, click Start, Settings, Control Panel,
    Administrative Tools, Event Viewer.

    A shortcut to Event Viewer is to click Start, Run and in the box
    enter:

    %SystemRoot%\system32\eventvwr.msc

    Click OK to launch the Event Viewer.

    Look in the Application log for an event sourced by Winlogon,
    something like:

    Event Type: Information
    Event Source: Winlogon
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 1001
    Description:
    Checking file system on C:
    The type of the file system is NTFS.


    A disk check has been scheduled.
    Windows will now check the disk.

    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    Usn Journal verification completed.

    39070048 KB total disk space.
    25151976 KB in 78653 files.
    48256 KB in 10264 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    237080 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    13632736 KB available on disk.

    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    9767512 total allocation units on disk.
    3408184 allocation units available on disk.

    Windows has finished checking your disk.
    Please wait while your computer restarts.
     
  14. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    On May 27, 1:12 pm, "Db" <databas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > the check disk is also used
    > to reconcile the files in the
    > file system with the master
    > file table.
    >
    > it is likely that your system
    > appropriately advised you
    > of an impending crash with
    > the master file table and
    > recommended a check disk.
    >
    > you might consider running
    > a check disk and a defrag
    > on a semi regular basis
    > to keep both the file and
    > disk system tuned up.
    >
    > the microsoft free one
    > care online scanner is
    > convenient to use.
    >
    > --
    > --
    > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
    >
    > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
    >
    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to:
    >
    > http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx
    >
    > "Joe McGuire" <mcguir...@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >
    > news:#LaMVwa$KHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    >
    >
    > > That's a relief!  Thanks!  But I am scratching my head.  If thereare no
    > > bad sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran
    > > report a bad HD?  Are these different tests?  Is one more reliable than
    > > the other? Did CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then report
    > > 0 kb in bad sectors?  This laptop is 5 years old so I have had already
    > > been thinking it might be time for a new one--before this problem hit..

    >
    > > "Johnw" <johnmatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > >news:htlk80$31a9$1@adenine.netfront.net...
    > >> Joe McGuire brought next idea :
    > >>> Ah, now I understand.  I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System
    > >>> instead of Applications).  I see the results of CHKDSK.  It shows0 KB
    > >>> in bad sectors.  Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?

    >
    > >> Yep, that is why I googled for a link, to support the info from Volunteer
    > >> J.

    >
    > >> Your HD is Ok.

    >
    > >> hard drive bad sectors

    >
    > >>http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=hard+drive+bad+sectors&aq...

    >
    > >>http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1583&page=3

    >
    > >>http://www.topbits.com/bad-sector.html

    >
    > >> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...@netfront.net ---


    Tell me what system or software will notify me of an impending crash
    of the master file table and recommend a chkdsk.

    I would like to run that on my system here to see if I am up for an
    impending crash of my master file table.
     
  15. Johnw

    Johnw Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Joe McGuire brought next idea :
    > That's a relief! Thanks! But I am scratching my head. If there are no bad
    > sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran report a bad
    > HD? Are these different tests? Is one more reliable than the other? Did
    > CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then report 0 kb in bad
    > sectors? This laptop is 5 years old so I have had already been thinking it
    > might be time for a new one--before this problem hit..
    >

    The 9 pages in my previous link, covers in beginner easy to understand
    mode > S.M.A.R.T.
    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1583&page=1

    The link provided by Volunteer J, shows you all the different ways to
    run Chkdsk.
    http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=315265

    To get an online report in easy to understand format, use SpeedFan.
    http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/SpeedFan.shtml
    http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/SpeedFan-Screenshot-4103.html
    http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
    I use the non beta version.
    Install, click on > S.M.A.R.T. & then click on > Perform an in-depth
    online analysis of this hard disk.
    Screenshot 6
    http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/SpeedFan_6.png



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  16. Johnw

    Johnw Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    Jose explained on 28/05/2010 :
    > If you got an answer like this, you would have not had to go back and
    > forth with messages and scratching your head saving a few useless
    > message cycles:
    >
    > When chkdsk runs automatically on a reboot, the results are shown in
    > the Event Viewer Application log.
    >
    > To see the Event Viewer logs, click Start, Settings, Control Panel,
    > Administrative Tools, Event Viewer.
    >
    > A shortcut to Event Viewer is to click Start, Run and in the box
    > enter:
    >
    > %SystemRoot%\system32\eventvwr.msc
    >
    > Click OK to launch the Event Viewer.
    >
    > Look in the Application log for an event sourced by Winlogon,
    > something like:
    >
    > Event Type: Information
    > Event Source: Winlogon
    > Event Category: None
    > Event ID: 1001
    > Description:
    > Checking file system on C:
    > The type of the file system is NTFS.
    >
    >
    > A disk check has been scheduled.
    > Windows will now check the disk.
    >
    > CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    > Usn Journal verification completed.
    >
    > 39070048 KB total disk space.
    > 25151976 KB in 78653 files.
    > 48256 KB in 10264 indexes.
    > 0 KB in bad sectors.
    > 237080 KB in use by the system.
    > 65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    > 13632736 KB available on disk.
    >
    > 4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    > 9767512 total allocation units on disk.
    > 3408184 allocation units available on disk.
    >
    > Windows has finished checking your disk.
    > Please wait while your computer restarts.


    In addition to my previous info, the program mentioned by Paul, will
    help in giving another diagnosis. His warnings need to be acknowledged.

    HD Tune
    http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HD-Tune.shtml
    http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/HD-Tune-Screenshot-9010.html
    http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/HD-Tune_3.png
    http://www.hdtune.com/



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  17. Db

    Db Flightless Bird

    Re: *More* Running CHKDSK--Issue

    no need to split hairs

    scheduled tasks can
    circumvent impending
    disasters:

    http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/maintenance.aspx

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    db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

    DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

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    "Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:f3fae557-ac89-4795-939e-bcc916544785@y12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
    > On May 27, 1:12 pm, "Db" <databas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >> the check disk is also used
    >> to reconcile the files in the
    >> file system with the master
    >> file table.
    >>
    >> it is likely that your system
    >> appropriately advised you
    >> of an impending crash with
    >> the master file table and
    >> recommended a check disk.
    >>
    >> you might consider running
    >> a check disk and a defrag
    >> on a semi regular basis
    >> to keep both the file and
    >> disk system tuned up.
    >>
    >> the microsoft free one
    >> care online scanner is
    >> convenient to use.
    >>
    >> --
    >> --
    >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
    >>
    >> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
    >>
    >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >> This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to:
    >>
    >> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx
    >>
    >> "Joe McGuire" <mcguir...@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:#LaMVwa$KHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > That's a relief! Thanks! But I am scratching my head. If there are
    >> > no
    >> > bad sectors in the HD, why did the initial computer diagnostic I ran
    >> > report a bad HD? Are these different tests? Is one more reliable than
    >> > the other? Did CHKDSK "fix" whatever might have been wrong and then
    >> > report
    >> > 0 kb in bad sectors? This laptop is 5 years old so I have had already
    >> > been thinking it might be time for a new one--before this problem hit..

    >>
    >> > "Johnw" <johnmatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> >news:htlk80$31a9$1@adenine.netfront.net...
    >> >> Joe McGuire brought next idea :
    >> >>> Ah, now I understand. I was looking in the wrong stuff (in System
    >> >>> instead of Applications). I see the results of CHKDSK. It shows 0
    >> >>> KB
    >> >>> in bad sectors. Is this consistent with a bad hard drive?

    >>
    >> >> Yep, that is why I googled for a link, to support the info from
    >> >> Volunteer
    >> >> J.

    >>
    >> >> Your HD is Ok.

    >>
    >> >> hard drive bad sectors

    >>
    >> >>http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=hard+drive+bad+sectors&aq...

    >>
    >> >>http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1583&page=3

    >>
    >> >>http://www.topbits.com/bad-sector.html

    >>
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    >
    > Tell me what system or software will notify me of an impending crash
    > of the master file table and recommend a chkdsk.
    >
    > I would like to run that on my system here to see if I am up for an
    > impending crash of my master file table.
     

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