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Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by FiOS-Dave, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. FiOS-Dave

    FiOS-Dave Flightless Bird

    Is this Newsgroup dead???
    Dave
     
  2. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Is this Newsgroup dead???
    > Dave



    This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and chased
    many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7 work in
    Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it every now
    and then hoping it will change.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  3. milt

    milt Flightless Bird

    On 7/18/2010 2:20 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
    >
    > "FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    > news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Is this Newsgroup dead???
    >> Dave

    >
    >
    > This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and
    > chased many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7
    > work in Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it
    > every now and then hoping it will change.


    Who cares if it was sanctioned by MS? Doesn't make it any less or more
    valid. Trolls ruined nothing, only if you let them. This newsgroup is a
    joke? Yeah right, The Microsoft "answers" forum is a joke!
     
  4. Stephen Wolstenholme

    Stephen Wolstenholme Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:20:01 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    >
    >"FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    >news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Is this Newsgroup dead???
    >> Dave

    >
    >
    >This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and chased
    >many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7 work in
    >Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it every now
    >and then hoping it will change.


    The Microsoft Answers forum are too clumsy and slow to use but you can
    access the forums as NNTP using the Community NNTP bridge at
    http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/

    Steve

    --
    Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com
    EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com
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    JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com
     
  5. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > The trolls ruined it and chased many away.


    There are no trolls here for people using a newsreader that allows
    proper kill-filing and scoring.

    You might give it a try....


    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  6. Drew

    Drew Flightless Bird

    Don't we all..

    "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i1vk51$tu6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    > news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Is this Newsgroup dead???
    >> Dave

    >
    >
    > This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and chased
    > many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7 work in
    > Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it every now
    > and then hoping it will change.
    > --
    > Bruce Hagen
    > MS-MVP [Mail]
    > Imperial Beach, CA
    >
     
  7. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DB999DC72564xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
    > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> The trolls ruined it and chased many away.

    >
    > There are no trolls here for people using a newsreader that allows
    > proper kill-filing and scoring.
    >
    > You might give it a try....
    >
    >
    > --
    > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    > The Usenet Improvement Project:
    > http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/



    The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have yet to
    find one that will automatically poll for new news messages every X
    minutes. I tried Forte Agent, Gravity and a few others and they do not
    have this option.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  8. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    > The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have
    > yet to find one that will automatically poll for new news messages
    > every X minutes.


    I'm so happy Xnews doesn't have this feature, if it did I'd sure
    disable it... Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

    Why in the world would you want a newsreader (or an email client, for
    that matter) to poll for new messages?



    --
    XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    The Usenet Improvement Project:
    http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
     
  9. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DB9B696F3C5Exs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
    > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    >> The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have
    >> yet to find one that will automatically poll for new news messages
    >> every X minutes.

    >
    > I'm so happy Xnews doesn't have this feature, if it did I'd sure
    > disable it... Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
    >
    > Why in the world would you want a newsreader (or an email client, for
    > that matter) to poll for new messages?
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    > The Usenet Improvement Project:
    > http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/






    > Why in the world would you want a newsreader (or an email client, for
    > that matter) to poll for new messages?


    So I can be doing something else besides sitting at this desk and just
    glance over at the monitor to see if there are new messages.

    I don't get paid for the hours I put in each day, so I might as well be
    comfortable.

    >Different strokes for different folks, I guess.


    I couldn't agree more with that statement.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  10. xfile

    xfile Flightless Bird

    > Who cares if it was sanctioned by MS? Doesn't make it any less or more
    > valid. Trolls ruined nothing, only if you let them. This newsgroup is a
    > joke? Yeah right, The Microsoft "answers" forum is a joke!
    >


    Couldn't agree more :)

    "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
    news:i1vou1$84b$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 7/18/2010 2:20 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
    >>
    >> "FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    >> news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Is this Newsgroup dead???
    >>> Dave

    >>
    >>
    >> This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and
    >> chased many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7
    >> work in Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it
    >> every now and then hoping it will change.

    >
    > Who cares if it was sanctioned by MS? Doesn't make it any less or more
    > valid. Trolls ruined nothing, only if you let them. This newsgroup is a
    > joke? Yeah right, The Microsoft "answers" forum is a joke!
    >
     
  11. xfile

    xfile Flightless Bird

    > Who cares if it was sanctioned by MS? Doesn't make it any less or more
    > valid. Trolls ruined nothing, only if you let them. This newsgroup is a
    > joke? Yeah right, The Microsoft "answers" forum is a joke!
    >


    Couldn't agree more :)

    "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
    news:i1vou1$84b$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 7/18/2010 2:20 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
    >>
    >> "FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    >> news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> Is this Newsgroup dead???
    >>> Dave

    >>
    >>
    >> This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and
    >> chased many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7
    >> work in Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it
    >> every now and then hoping it will change.

    >
    > Who cares if it was sanctioned by MS? Doesn't make it any less or more
    > valid. Trolls ruined nothing, only if you let them. This newsgroup is a
    > joke? Yeah right, The Microsoft "answers" forum is a joke!
    >
     
  12. P

    P Flightless Bird

    It was a dark day when Microsoft killed off the newsgroups. They were an
    excellent means of getting answers to questions that were not properly
    answered by the so-called help in the software. I have been struggling to
    find the familiar ways of doing things in Office 2007 and everything is
    taking five times as long to do. It seems that all that is new in 2007 and
    probably in 2010 is the veneer of little pictures and roundabout ways to do
    the things that became second nature in earlier Office editions. All the
    menus have been scrambled just to make it look different. Any logic has gone
    out the window. Occasionally I can find one of the familiar windows to do
    something but that must be an accident.
    At times like these we need those who gave advice in the newsgroups.
    The replacement is near useless and is about as difficult to get anything
    from as the Adobe mess.
    It is rough when companies take your money and leave you to figure it out --
    or want more money -- when something does not perform as advertised.

    Paul





    "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i208as$ga$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9DB9B696F3C5Exs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
    >> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    >>> The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have
    >>> yet to find one that will automatically poll for new news messages
    >>> every X minutes.

    >>
    >> I'm so happy Xnews doesn't have this feature, if it did I'd sure
    >> disable it... Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
    >>
    >> Why in the world would you want a newsreader (or an email client, for
    >> that matter) to poll for new messages?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    >> The Usenet Improvement Project:
    >> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >> Why in the world would you want a newsreader (or an email client, for
    >> that matter) to poll for new messages?

    >
    > So I can be doing something else besides sitting at this desk and just
    > glance over at the monitor to see if there are new messages.
    >
    > I don't get paid for the hours I put in each day, so I might as well be
    > comfortable.
    >
    >>Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

    >
    > I couldn't agree more with that statement.
    > --
    > Bruce Hagen
    > MS-MVP [Mail]
    > Imperial Beach, CA
    >
     
  13. Geordie

    Geordie Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:38:13 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
    compiled the following:

    <snip>
    >The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have yet to
    >find one that will automatically poll for new news messages every X
    >minutes. I tried Forte Agent, Gravity and a few others and they do not
    >have this option.


    This one does:
    http://xananews.techtips.com.br/

    You set it up under Tools - Batches, to download at the interval you
    set it to. It can be set to different batch files to d/l from alt
    groups, comp groups etc if you so wish.
    --
    A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking. (Arthur Bloch)
     
  14. Geordie

    Geordie Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:20:01 -0700, "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid>
    compiled the following:

    >
    >"FiOS-Dave" <FiOS-Dave@fakeaddress.zz> wrote in message
    >news:i1vi36$7ba$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Is this Newsgroup dead???
    >> Dave

    >
    >
    >This newsgroup was never sanctioned by MS. The trolls ruined it and chased
    >many away. As much as I prefer NNTP over forums, I do all my Win7 work in
    >Microsoft Answers. This newsgroup is a joke. I just check it every now
    >and then hoping it will change.


    What the hell has it got to do with MS, MS doesn't rule the world
    although they seem to think that they do.

    As far as their new forums go, they are a disaster and will never
    compare to newsgroups. Even using the community NNTP bridge programme
    it is still slow and awkward to use.
    --
    A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking. (Arthur Bloch)
     
  15. Geordie

    Geordie Flightless Bird

    Bruce Hagen submitted this idea :
    > The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have yet to find
    > one that will automatically poll for new news messages every X minutes. I
    > tried Forte Agent, Gravity and a few others and they do not have this option.


    PS here is another one:
    http://www.mesnews.net/gb/

    and another is:
    http://xpn.altervista.org/index-en.html

    --
    Geordie
    Wha's like us, Damn few; an' they're aw' deid
     
  16. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 7/19/2010 10:11 AM, P wrote:
    > It was a dark day when Microsoft killed off the newsgroups. They were an
    > excellent means of getting answers to questions that were not properly
    > answered by the so-called help in the software. I have been struggling
    > to find the familiar ways of doing things in Office 2007 and everything
    > is taking five times as long to do. It seems that all that is new in
    > 2007 and probably in 2010 is the veneer of little pictures and
    > roundabout ways to do the things that became second nature in earlier
    > Office editions. All the menus have been scrambled just to make it look
    > different. Any logic has gone out the window. Occasionally I can find
    > one of the familiar windows to do something but that must be an accident.
    > At times like these we need those who gave advice in the newsgroups.
    > The replacement is near useless and is about as difficult to get
    > anything from as the Adobe mess.
    > It is rough when companies take your money and leave you to figure it
    > out -- or want more money -- when something does not perform as advertised.
    >
    > Paul


    You finally figured out that MS holds their paying customers in total
    disdain? I figured that out when they lied and said WGA-N was a critical
    update back in 04 or so.

    --
    Alias
     
  17. Geordie

    Geordie Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:38:13 -0700
    "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    > The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have yet
    > to find one that will automatically poll for new news messages every
    > X minutes. I tried Forte Agent, Gravity and a few others and they do
    > not have this option.


    PPS
    Here is another one:
    http://www.gpg4win.org/

    It is Claws Mail for Windows but does bothe mail and news. The
    community bridge programme also works fine with it for the MS forums.

    --
    Geordie
    Murphy's Sixth Law: If you perceive that there are four possible ways
    in which a procedure can go wrong and circumvent these, then a fifth
    way, unprepared for, will promptly develop.
     
  18. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Bruce Hagen wrote:
    >
    > "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9DB999DC72564xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
    >> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    >>
    >>> The trolls ruined it and chased many away.

    >>
    >> There are no trolls here for people using a newsreader that allows
    >> proper kill-filing and scoring.
    >>
    >> You might give it a try....
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
    >> The Usenet Improvement Project:
    >> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

    >
    >
    > The thing I don't like about 'proper" newsreaders is that I have yet to
    > find one that will automatically poll for new news messages every X
    > minutes. I tried Forte Agent, Gravity and a few others and they do not
    > have this option.


    Thunderbird has that option.
    --
    Crash

    "It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory."
    ~ W. Edwards Deming ~
     
  19. Tattoo Vampire

    Tattoo Vampire Flightless Bird

    Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

    > Thunderbird has that option.


    So does Gravity.

    --
    Regards,
    [tv]
    Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC

    ....I slit my throat on the cutting edge of technology.
     
  20. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    XS11E wrote:
    > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> The trolls ruined it and chased many away.

    >
    > There are no trolls here for people using a newsreader that allows
    > proper kill-filing and scoring.
    >
    > You might give it a try....


    The spoiler is the people who can't resist feeding the trolls. I have a
    pretty good plonk list established, but it is spoiled by pages of
    threads that start with "Re:" and trash talk the original posting troll.
    --
    Crash

    "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable."
    ~ Laurence J. Peter ~
     

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