Revert to WinXP Taskbar

[SC Tom]

Re: Open command prompt, open command window (Re: Revert to WinXP Taskbar)

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MPG.271832362e5ee26698c67c@news.individual.net...
> On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 105:44 -0500, Bob I wrote:
>>
>> On 10/2/2010 16:50, Stan Brown wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:05:08 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2009/01/12/the-bumper-list-of-windows-7-secrets.aspx
>> >
>> > Tip number 5 on that page is to shift-right-slick on a folder to
>> > bring up a context menu that includes "open command prompt here".
>> >
>> > When I just plain right-click on a folder, the context menu includes
>> > "open command prompt here". When I shift-right-click, it includes
>> > "open command prompt here" and "open command window here". The two
>> > LOOK like they do the same thing, but what is the difference between
>> > them?
>> >
>> > I've got Home Premium, in case that matters.
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like you "installed" something to create the "open command prompt
>> here" entry. The "Open command window here" entry is the Win7 default.
>> So the difference could be nothing, but could be whatever the settings
>> are due to the method you used to create it.
>
> Well, I might be missing something, but the settings appear
> identical, including the text in the title bar. I'm not aware of
> installing anything that would have done this. I have installed
> TCC/LE, but that has its own right-click item: "TCC/LE prompt here".
>
> I tried searching the Registry for "command window here", with
> Keys/Values/Data checked and "whole string" not checked, and it came
> up empty. That seems weird to me, too.
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com
> Shikata ga nai...

Did you upgrade to Win7 from Vista? Mine behaves like yours with "CMD here"
(I changed it to that) on a simple right-click, and "Open command window
here" when doing a shift-right-click. I had installed an XP tweak for
"command prompt here" when I had Vista and it carried over when I upgraded
to Win7. Just an idea. . .
--
SC Tom
-There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support.

 

[Dave-UK]

Re: Open command prompt, open command window (Re: Revert to WinXP Taskbar)

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MPG.271832362e5ee26698c67c@news.individual.net...
> On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 105:44 -0500, Bob I wrote:
>>
>> On 10/2/2010 16:50, Stan Brown wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:05:08 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2009/01/12/the-bumper-list-of-windows-7-secrets.aspx
>> >
>> > Tip number 5 on that page is to shift-right-slick on a folder to
>> > bring up a context menu that includes "open command prompt here".
>> >
>> > When I just plain right-click on a folder, the context menu includes
>> > "open command prompt here". When I shift-right-click, it includes
>> > "open command prompt here" and "open command window here". The two
>> > LOOK like they do the same thing, but what is the difference between
>> > them?
>> >
>> > I've got Home Premium, in case that matters.
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like you "installed" something to create the "open command prompt
>> here" entry. The "Open command window here" entry is the Win7 default.
>> So the difference could be nothing, but could be whatever the settings
>> are due to the method you used to create it.
>
> Well, I might be missing something, but the settings appear
> identical, including the text in the title bar. I'm not aware of
> installing anything that would have done this. I have installed
> TCC/LE, but that has its own right-click item: "TCC/LE prompt here".
>
> I tried searching the Registry for "command window here", with
> Keys/Values/Data checked and "whole string" not checked, and it came
> up empty. That seems weird to me, too.
>

As Bob I has said, 'Open command window here' is built-in
to Win7's shift-right-click menu so I don't think there will be
a registry entry for it.
Your other entry, ' open command prompt here' sounds like
it's been installed somehow.
Have a look around here for any clues:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell

 

[Stan Brown]

Re: Open command prompt, open command window (Re: Revert to WinXP Taskbar)

On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 21:54:59 -0400, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> news:MPG.271832362e5ee26698c67c@news.individual.net...
> > On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 105:44 -0500, Bob I wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/2/2010 16:50, Stan Brown wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:05:08 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
> >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2009/01/12/the-bumper-list-of-windows-7-secrets.aspx
> >> >
> >> > Tip number 5 on that page is to shift-right-slick on a folder to
> >> > bring up a context menu that includes "open command prompt here".
> >> >
> >> > When I just plain right-click on a folder, the context menu includes
> >> > "open command prompt here". When I shift-right-click, it includes
> >> > "open command prompt here" and "open command window here". The two
> >> > LOOK like they do the same thing, but what is the difference between
> >> > them?
> >> >
> >> > I've got Home Premium, in case that matters.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Sounds like you "installed" something to create the "open command prompt
> >> here" entry. The "Open command window here" entry is the Win7 default.
> >> So the difference could be nothing, but could be whatever the settings
> >> are due to the method you used to create it.
> >
> > Well, I might be missing something, but the settings appear
> > identical, including the text in the title bar. I'm not aware of
> > installing anything that would have done this. I have installed
> > TCC/LE, but that has its own right-click item: "TCC/LE prompt here".
> >
> > I tried searching the Registry for "command window here", with
> > Keys/Values/Data checked and "whole string" not checked, and it came
> > up empty. That seems weird to me, too.
> >
> > --
> > Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> > http://OakRoadSystems.com
> > Shikata ga nai...
>
> Did you upgrade to Win7 from Vista? Mine behaves like yours with "CMD here"
> (I changed it to that) on a simple right-click, and "Open command window
> here" when doing a shift-right-click. I had installed an XP tweak for
> "command prompt here" when I had Vista and it carried over when I upgraded
> to Win7. Just an idea. . .

Nope, it was a clean install, already on my brand-new Dell when I
bought it.

Just to clarify, I have "Open command prompt here" on a simple right-
click; but on a shift-right-click I have BOTH "open command prompt
here" AND "open command window here".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

 

[Stan Brown]

Re: Open command prompt, open command window (Re: Revert to WinXP Taskbar)

On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 08:25:14 +0100, Dave-UK wrote:

> As Bob I has said, 'Open command window here' is built-in
> to Win7's shift-right-click menu so I don't think there will be
> a registry entry for it.
> Your other entry, ' open command prompt here' sounds like
> it's been installed somehow.
> Have a look around here for any clues:
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell

Thanks for the tip. It's there all right, and the associated command
is "cmd.exe /k pushd %L".

I have to admit the %L baffles me. It's obviously meant as an
argument to the pushd command, but where does "L" get its value, and
why isn't there a closing % sign? I looked in help for CMD and for
PUSHD to see if %L might be a special case, but came up empty.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

 

[SC Tom]

Re: Open command prompt, open command window (Re: Revert to WinXP Taskbar)

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MPG.271ab2c949fa39f998c68a@news.individual.net...
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 21:54:59 -0400, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.271832362e5ee26698c67c@news.individual.net...
>> > On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 105:44 -0500, Bob I wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 10/2/2010 16:50, Stan Brown wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:05:08 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2009/01/12/the-bumper-list-of-windows-7-secrets.aspx
>> >> >
>> >> > Tip number 5 on that page is to shift-right-slick on a folder to
>> >> > bring up a context menu that includes "open command prompt here".
>> >> >
>> >> > When I just plain right-click on a folder, the context menu includes
>> >> > "open command prompt here". When I shift-right-click, it includes
>> >> > "open command prompt here" and "open command window here". The two
>> >> > LOOK like they do the same thing, but what is the difference between
>> >> > them?
>> >> >
>> >> > I've got Home Premium, in case that matters.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like you "installed" something to create the "open command
>> >> prompt
>> >> here" entry. The "Open command window here" entry is the Win7 default.
>> >> So the difference could be nothing, but could be whatever the settings
>> >> are due to the method you used to create it.
>> >
>> > Well, I might be missing something, but the settings appear
>> > identical, including the text in the title bar. I'm not aware of
>> > installing anything that would have done this. I have installed
>> > TCC/LE, but that has its own right-click item: "TCC/LE prompt here".
>> >
>> > I tried searching the Registry for "command window here", with
>> > Keys/Values/Data checked and "whole string" not checked, and it came
>> > up empty. That seems weird to me, too.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
>> > http://OakRoadSystems.com
>> > Shikata ga nai...
>>
>> Did you upgrade to Win7 from Vista? Mine behaves like yours with "CMD
>> here"
>> (I changed it to that) on a simple right-click, and "Open command window
>> here" when doing a shift-right-click. I had installed an XP tweak for
>> "command prompt here" when I had Vista and it carried over when I
>> upgraded
>> to Win7. Just an idea. . .
>
> Nope, it was a clean install, already on my brand-new Dell when I
> bought it.
>
> Just to clarify, I have "Open command prompt here" on a simple right-
> click; but on a shift-right-click I have BOTH "open command prompt
> here" AND "open command window here".
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com
> Shikata ga nai...

Yep, I have both, too, on the shift-right-click.

I thought mine was a carryover from Vista, but maybe it's just that way in
Win7 natively, and I assumed it was a carryover.
--
SC Tom
-There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support.

 

[Joe Morris]

Re: Open command prompt, open command window (Re: Revert to WinXP Taskbar)

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 08:25:14 +0100, Dave-UK wrote:

>> As Bob I has said, 'Open command window here' is built-in
>> to Win7's shift-right-click menu so I don't think there will be
>> a registry entry for it.
>> Your other entry, ' open command prompt here' sounds like
>> it's been installed somehow.
>> Have a look around here for any clues:
>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell
>
> Thanks for the tip. It's there all right, and the associated command
> is "cmd.exe /k pushd %L".
>
> I have to admit the %L baffles me. It's obviously meant as an
> argument to the pushd command, but where does "L" get its value, and
> why isn't there a closing % sign? I looked in help for CMD and for
> PUSHD to see if %L might be a special case, but came up empty.

I just now checked a Win 7 Enterprise 64-bit system's registry and didn't
find any such entries under HKCR\Folder\Shell. Like others here I'm leaning
toward the idea that someone has run <something> that thinks it's on XP and
has installed the XP Registry hack.

As for the %L - it appears to be a token representing the fully-qualified
LFN of the folder. Try setting the command entry in the Registry to

cmd.exe /k "echo **%L**"

and you'll see it in action. No, I've never seen it documented in any MS
material, and replacing %L with %S doesn't yield the SFN but does yield the
digit 1...no idea why.

Joe Morris