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Replacement motherboard for DELL Latitude D600

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E. F.

Flightless Bird
I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
can be cured by motherboard replacement only.

If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
How do I go about obtaining such info?

Please point me in the right direction.

TIA, Eugene
 
G

ggwillikers

Flightless Bird
E. F. wrote:
> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>
> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>
> Please point me in the right direction.
>
> TIA, Eugene

I may have exactly what you are looking for...at a reasonable price.
reply to jonlberg <at> gmail <dot> com
 
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Barry Watzman

Flightless Bird
Basically, you want a motherboard from a D600 as similar to yours as
possible (preferably identical). In particular, same screen, same video
option and likely same CPU.

E. F. wrote:
> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>
> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>
> Please point me in the right direction.
>
> TIA, Eugene
 
M

mike

Flightless Bird
E. F. wrote:
> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>
> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>
> Please point me in the right direction.
>
> TIA, Eugene

Depends on your definition of identical.

Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
You can pull up the factory configuration details.
That may give you enough clues.
Compare to the info from the donor machine.

Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
If it's so registered software continues to work,
there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
Then there's the ethernet ID.
Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
new license.

Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
 
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Barry Watzman

Flightless Bird
In terms of product activation, you are right, there is no "identical"
board. The critical issue in that regard was the MAC address of the
network interface(s).

But putting that aside (and it may not matter), Dell has offered many of
their machines with different LCD panels and with different video
options (some have chipset video, some have dedicated video that may or
may not be on the motherboard ... some dell laptops have a separate
video card). In that regard, it's probably best to match what he has to
insure that it works.


mike wrote:
> E. F. wrote:
>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>
>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>
>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>
>> TIA, Eugene

> Depends on your definition of identical.
>
> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
> That may give you enough clues.
> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>
> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
> If it's so registered software continues to work,
> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
> Then there's the ethernet ID.
> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
> new license.
>
> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
 
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mike

Flightless Bird
Barry Watzman wrote:
> In terms of product activation, you are right, there is no "identical"
> board. The critical issue in that regard was the MAC address of the
> network interface(s).
>
> But putting that aside (and it may not matter), Dell has offered many of
> their machines with different LCD panels and with different video
> options (some have chipset video, some have dedicated video that may or
> may not be on the motherboard ... some dell laptops have a separate
> video card). In that regard, it's probably best to match what he has to
> insure that it works.


Yep, that's what the service tag number is for.
>
>
> mike wrote:
>> E. F. wrote:
>>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>>
>>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>>
>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>>
>>> TIA, Eugene

>> Depends on your definition of identical.
>>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.
>> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
>> If it's so registered software continues to work,
>> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
>> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
>> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
>> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
>> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
>> Then there's the ethernet ID.
>> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
>> new license.
>>
>> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
 
E

E. F.

Flightless Bird
Barry,

Though I've done some hardware updates on desktops I'm rather ignarant
about motherboards. Do I have to buy a motherboard with CPU installed
or can I transfer my old CPU to a new motherboard?

TIA, Eugene

===============================================
On Jan 8, 11:10 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Basically, you want a motherboard from a D600 as similar to yours as
> possible (preferably identical).  In particular, same screen, same video
> option and likely same CPU.
>
>
>
> E. F. wrote:
> > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
> > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.

>
> > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
> > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
> > How do I go about obtaining such info?

>
> > Please point me in the right direction.

>
> > TIA, Eugene- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
 
E

E. F.

Flightless Bird
Mike,

> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
> That may give you enough clues.


Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
is such thing)?

> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?


My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
XP problems with hardware changes.

TIA, Eugene

=====================================================
On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
> E. F. wrote:
> > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
> > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.

>
> > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
> > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
> > How do I go about obtaining such info?

>
> > Please point me in the right direction.

>
> > TIA, Eugene

>
> Depends on your definition of identical.
>
> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
> That may give you enough clues.
> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>
> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
> If it's so registered software continues to work,
> there may be no IDENTICAL one.  That's the whole idea
> behind preventing transfer to another machine.  Depending on the methods
> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
> not be able to do it at all.  Some versions of Dell Bios
> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
> Then there's the ethernet ID.
> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
> new license.
>
> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
 
B

Barry Watzman

Flightless Bird
IF it's the same motherboard, you can transfer the CPU. But the
motherboard may very well come with the CPU as well.


E. F. wrote:
> Barry,
>
> Though I've done some hardware updates on desktops I'm rather ignarant
> about motherboards. Do I have to buy a motherboard with CPU installed
> or can I transfer my old CPU to a new motherboard?
>
> TIA, Eugene
>
> ===============================================
> On Jan 8, 11:10 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> Basically, you want a motherboard from a D600 as similar to yours as
>> possible (preferably identical). In particular, same screen, same video
>> option and likely same CPU.
>>
>>
>>
>> E. F. wrote:
>>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>> TIA, Eugene- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
 
B

Barry Watzman

Flightless Bird
It's likely (but not certain) that XP from an actual Dell installation
or restore CD (or partition) is "BIOS locked", and won't do product
activation when installed on a Dell computer. Which, IF it is the case,
avoids the activation issues.

E. F. wrote:
> Mike,
>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.

>
> Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
> is such thing)?
>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?

>
> My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
> XP problems with hardware changes.
>
> TIA, Eugene
>
> =====================================================
> On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
>> E. F. wrote:
>>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>> TIA, Eugene

>> Depends on your definition of identical.
>>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.
>> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
>> If it's so registered software continues to work,
>> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
>> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
>> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
>> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
>> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
>> Then there's the ethernet ID.
>> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
>> new license.
>>
>> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.

>
 
M

mike

Flightless Bird
E. F. wrote:
> Mike,
>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.

>
> Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
> is such thing)?


You can answer that question by plugging your service tag number
into the website.
>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?

>
> My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
> XP problems with hardware changes.


It's my belief that any DELL Install CD will work on any Dell without
problems. I routinely swap disk drives between similar desktop systems.
Never done it with a laptop, but expect it works as long as the drivers
don't conflict and lock it up.
But that's only XP issue. If you use any other expensive commercial sw,
that may have other license compliance issues.

Depending on the source of the board, I'd worry more about getting
another bad board than the sw issues. Based on the level of experience
suggested by your questions, there's the possibility that you'll bust
something during the install process.

Swapping a motherboard is trivial the SECOND time you do it.

>
> TIA, Eugene
>
> =====================================================
> On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
>> E. F. wrote:
>>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>> TIA, Eugene

>> Depends on your definition of identical.
>>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.
>> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
>> If it's so registered software continues to work,
>> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
>> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
>> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
>> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
>> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
>> Then there's the ethernet ID.
>> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
>> new license.
>>
>> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.

>
 
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Barry Watzman

Flightless Bird
Depends on the laptop. On some of them, it's a REAL BITCH the first
time, and only a "plain old BITCH" on subsequent occasions.

mike wrote:
>
> Swapping a motherboard is trivial the SECOND time you do it.
>
 
G

ggwillikers

Flightless Bird
E. F. wrote:
> Mike,
>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.

>
> Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
> is such thing)?
>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?

>
> My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
> XP problems with hardware changes.
>
> TIA, Eugene
>
> =====================================================
> On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
>> E. F. wrote:
>>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>> TIA, Eugene

>> Depends on your definition of identical.
>>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.
>> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
>> If it's so registered software continues to work,
>> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
>> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
>> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
>> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
>> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
>> Then there's the ethernet ID.
>> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
>> new license.
>>
>> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.

>

I will sell you completely functional & tested D600 base for $50.00
I have 5 of them sitting here. Swap the Top half, memory, wireless card,
and Hard Drive and BANG up and running in a half hour. once again my
email address jonlberg (at) gmail (dot) com... (i can setup a special
ebay auction if you like).

Your XP installation wont even ask for validation ( I swap these HD's
all the time)... Hell I'll even include a Dell XPSP2 OEM setup disk...
 
G

ggwillikers

Flightless Bird
Barry Watzman wrote:
> In terms of product activation, you are right, there is no "identical"
> board. The critical issue in that regard was the MAC address of the
> network interface(s).
>
> But putting that aside (and it may not matter), Dell has offered many of
> their machines with different LCD panels and with different video
> options (some have chipset video, some have dedicated video that may or
> may not be on the motherboard ... some dell laptops have a separate
> video card). In that regard, it's probably best to match what he has to
> insure that it works.
>
>
> mike wrote:
>> E. F. wrote:
>>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
>>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
>>>
>>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
>>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
>>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
>>>
>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>>
>>> TIA, Eugene

>> Depends on your definition of identical.
>>
>> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
>> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
>> That may give you enough clues.
>> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
>>
>> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
>> If it's so registered software continues to work,
>> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
>> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
>> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
>> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
>> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
>> Then there's the ethernet ID.
>> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
>> new license.
>>
>> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.


a D600 is a D600 is a D600, different speed processors thats it.
all extra options are plugins to the motherboard. (modem, bluetooth)...
as cookie cutter as you can get...
 
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E. F.

Flightless Bird
Thank you for your offer.

As soon as my wife transfers everything that dear to her from old D600
to the new laptop I will contct you to set-up the eBay auction.

Eugene
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:hidgev$1pb$2@news.eternal-september.org,
Barry Watzman typed on Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:22:30 -0500:
> It's likely (but not certain) that XP from an actual Dell installation
> or restore CD (or partition) is "BIOS locked", and won't do product
> activation when installed on a Dell computer. Which, IF it is the
> case, avoids the activation issues.


My Gateways restore disc are generic OEM. And they don't care what
computer they are installed on. Nor do they have any activation needs.
Also some Dells are this way as well.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 2 of 3 - Windows XP SP3
 
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