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Replacement motherboard for DELL Latitude D600

Discussion in 'Notebooks' started by E. F., Jan 8, 2010.

  1. E. F.

    E. F. Flightless Bird

    I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    can be cured by motherboard replacement only.

    If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    How do I go about obtaining such info?

    Please point me in the right direction.

    TIA, Eugene
     
  2. ggwillikers

    ggwillikers Flightless Bird

    E. F. wrote:
    > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >
    > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    > How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >
    > Please point me in the right direction.
    >
    > TIA, Eugene

    I may have exactly what you are looking for...at a reasonable price.
    reply to jonlberg <at> gmail <dot> com
     
  3. Barry Watzman

    Barry Watzman Flightless Bird

    Basically, you want a motherboard from a D600 as similar to yours as
    possible (preferably identical). In particular, same screen, same video
    option and likely same CPU.

    E. F. wrote:
    > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >
    > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    > How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >
    > Please point me in the right direction.
    >
    > TIA, Eugene
     
  4. mike

    mike Flightless Bird

    E. F. wrote:
    > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >
    > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    > How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >
    > Please point me in the right direction.
    >
    > TIA, Eugene

    Depends on your definition of identical.

    Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    That may give you enough clues.
    Compare to the info from the donor machine.

    Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    If it's so registered software continues to work,
    there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    Then there's the ethernet ID.
    Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    new license.

    Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
     
  5. Barry Watzman

    Barry Watzman Flightless Bird

    In terms of product activation, you are right, there is no "identical"
    board. The critical issue in that regard was the MAC address of the
    network interface(s).

    But putting that aside (and it may not matter), Dell has offered many of
    their machines with different LCD panels and with different video
    options (some have chipset video, some have dedicated video that may or
    may not be on the motherboard ... some dell laptops have a separate
    video card). In that regard, it's probably best to match what he has to
    insure that it works.


    mike wrote:
    > E. F. wrote:
    >> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>
    >> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>
    >> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>
    >> TIA, Eugene

    > Depends on your definition of identical.
    >
    > Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    > You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    > That may give you enough clues.
    > Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >
    > Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    > If it's so registered software continues to work,
    > there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    > behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    > of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    > not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    > let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    > Then there's the ethernet ID.
    > Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    > new license.
    >
    > Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
     
  6. mike

    mike Flightless Bird

    Barry Watzman wrote:
    > In terms of product activation, you are right, there is no "identical"
    > board. The critical issue in that regard was the MAC address of the
    > network interface(s).
    >
    > But putting that aside (and it may not matter), Dell has offered many of
    > their machines with different LCD panels and with different video
    > options (some have chipset video, some have dedicated video that may or
    > may not be on the motherboard ... some dell laptops have a separate
    > video card). In that regard, it's probably best to match what he has to
    > insure that it works.


    Yep, that's what the service tag number is for.
    >
    >
    > mike wrote:
    >> E. F. wrote:
    >>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>>
    >>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>>
    >>> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>>
    >>> TIA, Eugene

    >> Depends on your definition of identical.
    >>
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.
    >> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >>
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    >> If it's so registered software continues to work,
    >> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    >> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    >> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    >> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    >> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    >> Then there's the ethernet ID.
    >> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    >> new license.
    >>
    >> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
     
  7. E. F.

    E. F. Flightless Bird

    Barry,

    Though I've done some hardware updates on desktops I'm rather ignarant
    about motherboards. Do I have to buy a motherboard with CPU installed
    or can I transfer my old CPU to a new motherboard?

    TIA, Eugene

    ===============================================
    On Jan 8, 11:10 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
    > Basically, you want a motherboard from a D600 as similar to yours as
    > possible (preferably identical).  In particular, same screen, same video
    > option and likely same CPU.
    >
    >
    >
    > E. F. wrote:
    > > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    > > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.

    >
    > > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    > > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    > > How do I go about obtaining such info?

    >
    > > Please point me in the right direction.

    >
    > > TIA, Eugene- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -
     
  8. E. F.

    E. F. Flightless Bird

    Mike,

    > Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    > You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    > That may give you enough clues.


    Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
    is such thing)?

    > Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?


    My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
    XP problems with hardware changes.

    TIA, Eugene

    =====================================================
    On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
    > E. F. wrote:
    > > I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    > > can be cured by motherboard replacement only.

    >
    > > If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    > > parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    > > How do I go about obtaining such info?

    >
    > > Please point me in the right direction.

    >
    > > TIA, Eugene

    >
    > Depends on your definition of identical.
    >
    > Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    > You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    > That may give you enough clues.
    > Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >
    > Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    > If it's so registered software continues to work,
    > there may be no IDENTICAL one.  That's the whole idea
    > behind preventing transfer to another machine.  Depending on the methods
    > of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    > not be able to do it at all.  Some versions of Dell Bios
    > let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    > Then there's the ethernet ID.
    > Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    > new license.
    >
    > Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.
     
  9. Barry Watzman

    Barry Watzman Flightless Bird

    IF it's the same motherboard, you can transfer the CPU. But the
    motherboard may very well come with the CPU as well.


    E. F. wrote:
    > Barry,
    >
    > Though I've done some hardware updates on desktops I'm rather ignarant
    > about motherboards. Do I have to buy a motherboard with CPU installed
    > or can I transfer my old CPU to a new motherboard?
    >
    > TIA, Eugene
    >
    > ===============================================
    > On Jan 8, 11:10 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
    >> Basically, you want a motherboard from a D600 as similar to yours as
    >> possible (preferably identical). In particular, same screen, same video
    >> option and likely same CPU.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> E. F. wrote:
    >>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>> TIA, Eugene- Hide quoted text -

    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
     
  10. Barry Watzman

    Barry Watzman Flightless Bird

    It's likely (but not certain) that XP from an actual Dell installation
    or restore CD (or partition) is "BIOS locked", and won't do product
    activation when installed on a Dell computer. Which, IF it is the case,
    avoids the activation issues.

    E. F. wrote:
    > Mike,
    >
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.

    >
    > Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
    > is such thing)?
    >
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?

    >
    > My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
    > XP problems with hardware changes.
    >
    > TIA, Eugene
    >
    > =====================================================
    > On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
    >> E. F. wrote:
    >>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>> TIA, Eugene

    >> Depends on your definition of identical.
    >>
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.
    >> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >>
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    >> If it's so registered software continues to work,
    >> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    >> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    >> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    >> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    >> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    >> Then there's the ethernet ID.
    >> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    >> new license.
    >>
    >> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.

    >
     
  11. mike

    mike Flightless Bird

    E. F. wrote:
    > Mike,
    >
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.

    >
    > Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
    > is such thing)?


    You can answer that question by plugging your service tag number
    into the website.
    >
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?

    >
    > My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
    > XP problems with hardware changes.


    It's my belief that any DELL Install CD will work on any Dell without
    problems. I routinely swap disk drives between similar desktop systems.
    Never done it with a laptop, but expect it works as long as the drivers
    don't conflict and lock it up.
    But that's only XP issue. If you use any other expensive commercial sw,
    that may have other license compliance issues.

    Depending on the source of the board, I'd worry more about getting
    another bad board than the sw issues. Based on the level of experience
    suggested by your questions, there's the possibility that you'll bust
    something during the install process.

    Swapping a motherboard is trivial the SECOND time you do it.

    >
    > TIA, Eugene
    >
    > =====================================================
    > On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
    >> E. F. wrote:
    >>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>> TIA, Eugene

    >> Depends on your definition of identical.
    >>
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.
    >> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >>
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    >> If it's so registered software continues to work,
    >> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    >> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    >> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    >> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    >> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    >> Then there's the ethernet ID.
    >> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    >> new license.
    >>
    >> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.

    >
     
  12. Barry Watzman

    Barry Watzman Flightless Bird

    Depends on the laptop. On some of them, it's a REAL BITCH the first
    time, and only a "plain old BITCH" on subsequent occasions.

    mike wrote:
    >
    > Swapping a motherboard is trivial the SECOND time you do it.
    >
     
  13. ggwillikers

    ggwillikers Flightless Bird

    E. F. wrote:
    > Mike,
    >
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.

    >
    > Will it give me DELL's part number for the motherboard (assuming there
    > is such thing)?
    >
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?

    >
    > My main reason was to aoid any possible headaches, including Microsoft
    > XP problems with hardware changes.
    >
    > TIA, Eugene
    >
    > =====================================================
    > On Jan 8, 11:36 pm, mike <spam...@go.com> wrote:
    >> E. F. wrote:
    >>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>> TIA, Eugene

    >> Depends on your definition of identical.
    >>
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.
    >> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >>
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    >> If it's so registered software continues to work,
    >> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    >> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    >> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    >> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    >> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    >> Then there's the ethernet ID.
    >> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    >> new license.
    >>
    >> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.

    >

    I will sell you completely functional & tested D600 base for $50.00
    I have 5 of them sitting here. Swap the Top half, memory, wireless card,
    and Hard Drive and BANG up and running in a half hour. once again my
    email address jonlberg (at) gmail (dot) com... (i can setup a special
    ebay auction if you like).

    Your XP installation wont even ask for validation ( I swap these HD's
    all the time)... Hell I'll even include a Dell XPSP2 OEM setup disk...
     
  14. ggwillikers

    ggwillikers Flightless Bird

    Barry Watzman wrote:
    > In terms of product activation, you are right, there is no "identical"
    > board. The critical issue in that regard was the MAC address of the
    > network interface(s).
    >
    > But putting that aside (and it may not matter), Dell has offered many of
    > their machines with different LCD panels and with different video
    > options (some have chipset video, some have dedicated video that may or
    > may not be on the motherboard ... some dell laptops have a separate
    > video card). In that regard, it's probably best to match what he has to
    > insure that it works.
    >
    >
    > mike wrote:
    >> E. F. wrote:
    >>> I have DELL Latitude D600 that experiences problems that apparently
    >>> can be cured by motherboard replacement only.
    >>>
    >>> If I to by the replacement motherboard from a 3rd-party source what
    >>> parameters I need to match to make sure I'm getting an identical one?
    >>> How do I go about obtaining such info?
    >>>
    >>> Please point me in the right direction.
    >>>
    >>> TIA, Eugene

    >> Depends on your definition of identical.
    >>
    >> Plug the service tag number into the dell website.
    >> You can pull up the factory configuration details.
    >> That may give you enough clues.
    >> Compare to the info from the donor machine.
    >>
    >> Bigger question is Why do you need an identical one?
    >> If it's so registered software continues to work,
    >> there may be no IDENTICAL one. That's the whole idea
    >> behind preventing transfer to another machine. Depending on the methods
    >> of identifying and locking sw to one machine, you may
    >> not be able to do it at all. Some versions of Dell Bios
    >> let you change some of the ID parameters, some don't.
    >> Then there's the ethernet ID.
    >> Might be easier to convince the SW vendor to give you a
    >> new license.
    >>
    >> Can't think of another reason you'd demand identicalness.


    a D600 is a D600 is a D600, different speed processors thats it.
    all extra options are plugins to the motherboard. (modem, bluetooth)...
    as cookie cutter as you can get...
     
  15. E. F.

    E. F. Flightless Bird

    Thank you for your offer.

    As soon as my wife transfers everything that dear to her from old D600
    to the new laptop I will contct you to set-up the eBay auction.

    Eugene
     
  16. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:hidgev$1pb$2@news.eternal-september.org,
    Barry Watzman typed on Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:22:30 -0500:
    > It's likely (but not certain) that XP from an actual Dell installation
    > or restore CD (or partition) is "BIOS locked", and won't do product
    > activation when installed on a Dell computer. Which, IF it is the
    > case, avoids the activation issues.


    My Gateways restore disc are generic OEM. And they don't care what
    computer they are installed on. Nor do they have any activation needs.
    Also some Dells are this way as well.

    --
    Bill
    Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 2 of 3 - Windows XP SP3
     

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