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Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identical. Repair installation of Windows XP

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Derek2, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Dear Group,

    An ASUS motherboard failed in a Win XP Pro pc belonging to a friend of mine,
    so I have replace it for her. Asus no longer make this mobo, it's not
    available so I bought a board from ASrock with the same socket, however the
    ASUS board had NVidia chipset while the ASRock uses AMD chipset. It's
    socket 939 and these are hard to come by now.

    Windows XP repair installation has been completed, it starts normally and
    offers logon to the pc or the domain controller. I select the pc and after a
    couple of seconds a Windows Product Activation message appears:
    "This copy of Windows must be activated with Microsoft before you can
    continue. You cannot log on until you activate Windows. Because activation
    cannot occur in safe mode, please restart your computer in normal mode to
    activate Windows."

    And the same is true when starting Win XP Pro normally. The message for
    normal boot and logon is:
    "This copy of Windows must be activated with Microsoft before you can log
    on. Do you want to activate Windows now? [ Yes / No ] "

    I select Yes and no other window or message appears. It is connected with a
    LAN cable to my router, to the internet. So web activation should work. I
    have left it like this for over an hour, but the screen just stays with the
    Windows background and nothing else loaded on screen.

    *** Router Info ***
    Router is not seeing the Win XP Pro pc as an Attached Device. So I assume
    Network functionality is not working. This could be why it's waiting for
    activation but not completing. The light on the router is lit up, but
    logging on to the router I can only see my own pc and not the Win XP Pro pc.


    If I select No on the activation message I get sent back to the logon
    screen. I am not selecting the Domain Controller because I am not located
    there, it's a few miles away. I could go there but I think it would be a
    waste of time, is it worth actually trying this, would it make any
    difference since my own router has internet for activation?

    It's a genuine copy of Windows etc. What can I do?

    My thought is to take the hard drive out, put it into another pc and rename
    the WPA files, then put it back into this pc. My hope is that any problems
    with them may be solved this way, new files would be completed etc. But I
    am still left with what appears to be a Network Driver problem.

    I really am stuck with this one.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:%232FXFRERLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Dear Group,



    > My thought is to take the hard drive out, put it into another pc and
    > rename the WPA files, then put it back into this pc. My hope is that any
    > problems with them may be solved this way, new files would be completed
    > etc. But I am still left with what appears to be a Network Driver
    > problem.



    I tried renaming the WPA files and rebooting. A similar WPA message
    appeared and again it just sat there doing nothing. I think this is because
    Networking doesn't seem to be working due to incompatible drivers (I assume)
    because this is a different motherboard with a different chipset (old one
    was NVidia, new one AMD).

    I am currently trying to install Windows on a new HDD in problem pc. Then I
    will reconnect the original hard drive and back up it's data. Then I think
    I will have to fresh install windows onto the original hard drive, copy data
    back across, reinstall all apps etc.

    Unless someone has a repair suggestion that's what I will carry on doing.

    Regards.
     
  3. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:-O3FP89ERLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    > news:%232FXFRERLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> Dear Group,

    >
    >
    >> My thought is to take the hard drive out, put it into another pc and
    >> rename the WPA files, then put it back into this pc. My hope is that any
    >> problems with them may be solved this way, new files would be completed
    >> etc. But I am still left with what appears to be a Network Driver
    >> problem.

    >
    >
    > I tried renaming the WPA files and rebooting. A similar WPA message
    > appeared and again it just sat there doing nothing. I think this is
    > because Networking doesn't seem to be working due to incompatible drivers
    > (I assume) because this is a different motherboard with a different
    > chipset (old one was NVidia, new one AMD).
    >
    > I am currently trying to install Windows on a new HDD in problem pc. Then
    > I will reconnect the original hard drive and back up it's data. Then I
    > think I will have to fresh install windows onto the original hard drive,
    > copy data back across, reinstall all apps etc.



    I've had an idea - activate the new installation and the copy the WPA files
    from the new install to the original hard drive SYSTEM32 folder. I hope
    that the new WPA will be correct for the old install since the hardware will
    be the same.

    Any ideas?
     
  4. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "Derek2" wrote:

    >
    > "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    > news:%232FXFRERLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > > Dear Group,

    >
    >
    > > My thought is to take the hard drive out, put it into another pc and
    > > rename the WPA files, then put it back into this pc. My hope is that any
    > > problems with them may be solved this way, new files would be completed
    > > etc. But I am still left with what appears to be a Network Driver
    > > problem.

    >
    >
    > I tried renaming the WPA files and rebooting. A similar WPA message
    > appeared and again it just sat there doing nothing. I think this is because
    > Networking doesn't seem to be working due to incompatible drivers (I assume)
    > because this is a different motherboard with a different chipset (old one
    > was NVidia, new one AMD).
    >
    > I am currently trying to install Windows on a new HDD in problem pc. Then I
    > will reconnect the original hard drive and back up it's data. Then I think
    > I will have to fresh install windows onto the original hard drive, copy data
    > back across, reinstall all apps etc.
    >
    > Unless someone has a repair suggestion that's what I will carry on doing.
    >
    > Regards.
    >
    >
    > .
    >


    You will need to do a repair install:

    http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

    After the repair, start the machine and press F8 to get the boot menu. Start
    up in VGA mode and log in. If you get the product activation prompt, cancel
    it. You didn't say you installed the drivers for the new main board. Download
    all the drivers for the new board from the Asrock website on to the computer
    you are using to post here and save them to a flash drive or burn to CD.
    Also, a disk with drivers should have come with the board. Now go into
    Add/Remove programs and uninstall the video driver, and any other drivers
    listed there. Go into Device Manager and uninstall driver for the audio and
    LAN. Reboot the machine in VGA mode and log in. Cancel Activation again. Now
    install the drivers from the included disk, or the ones you downloaded.
    Reboot the machine again and login. Once the driver for the LAN is installed,
    you will then be able to establish connection with your router. Now activate
    Windows. If activation fails you will be given a phone number to call for
    activation.
     
  5. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "Mark Adams" <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:2A61F930-FA01-46CA-98CB-9D2A2962A5D4@microsoft.com...
    >
    >
    > "Derek2" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >> news:%232FXFRERLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> > Dear Group,

    >>
    >>
    >> > My thought is to take the hard drive out, put it into another pc and
    >> > rename the WPA files, then put it back into this pc. My hope is that
    >> > any
    >> > problems with them may be solved this way, new files would be completed
    >> > etc. But I am still left with what appears to be a Network Driver
    >> > problem.

    >>
    >>
    >> I tried renaming the WPA files and rebooting. A similar WPA message
    >> appeared and again it just sat there doing nothing. I think this is
    >> because
    >> Networking doesn't seem to be working due to incompatible drivers (I
    >> assume)
    >> because this is a different motherboard with a different chipset (old one
    >> was NVidia, new one AMD).
    >>
    >> I am currently trying to install Windows on a new HDD in problem pc. Then
    >> I
    >> will reconnect the original hard drive and back up it's data. Then I
    >> think
    >> I will have to fresh install windows onto the original hard drive, copy
    >> data
    >> back across, reinstall all apps etc.
    >>
    >> Unless someone has a repair suggestion that's what I will carry on doing.
    >>
    >> Regards.
    >>
    >>
    >> .
    >>

    >
    > You will need to do a repair install:
    >
    > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    >
    > After the repair, start the machine and press F8 to get the boot menu.
    > Start
    > up in VGA mode and log in. If you get the product activation prompt,
    > cancel
    > it. You didn't say you installed the drivers for the new main board.
    > Download
    > all the drivers for the new board from the Asrock website on to the
    > computer
    > you are using to post here and save them to a flash drive or burn to CD.
    > Also, a disk with drivers should have come with the board. Now go into
    > Add/Remove programs and uninstall the video driver, and any other drivers
    > listed there. Go into Device Manager and uninstall driver for the audio
    > and
    > LAN. Reboot the machine in VGA mode and log in. Cancel Activation again.
    > Now
    > install the drivers from the included disk, or the ones you downloaded.
    > Reboot the machine again and login. Once the driver for the LAN is
    > installed,
    > you will then be able to establish connection with your router. Now
    > activate
    > Windows. If activation fails you will be given a phone number to call for
    > activation.



    Thanks for the reply Mark. I am attempting that now, I did the repair
    install 2x already but will try it again.

    The trouble I am having is that no matter how I get to the login screen,
    after I complete login I get the WPA Yes/No before I can install the network
    driver. This means that if I say Yes then pc is stuck in a loop of trying
    to do internet WPA without network drivers, or I say No and it kicks me back
    to login screen.

    I am doing the repair install now, if only I could somehow slipstream the
    network driver then I could make this work.

    Can I slipstream the network driver?

    Will let you know how this install repair goes soon.

    Thanks.
     
  6. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:%23iTWWGGRLHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Mark Adams" <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:2A61F930-FA01-46CA-98CB-9D2A2962A5D4@microsoft.com...
    >>
    >>
    >> You will need to do a repair install:
    >>
    >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    >>
    >> After the repair, start the machine and press F8 to get the boot menu.
    >> Start
    >> up in VGA mode and log in. If you get the product activation prompt,
    >> cancel
    >> it. You didn't say you installed the drivers for the new main board.
    >> Download
    >> all the drivers for the new board from the Asrock website on to the
    >> computer
    >> you are using to post here and save them to a flash drive or burn to CD.
    >> Also, a disk with drivers should have come with the board. Now go into
    >> Add/Remove programs and uninstall the video driver, and any other drivers
    >> listed there. Go into Device Manager and uninstall driver for the audio
    >> and
    >> LAN. Reboot the machine in VGA mode and log in. Cancel Activation again.
    >> Now
    >> install the drivers from the included disk, or the ones you downloaded.
    >> Reboot the machine again and login. Once the driver for the LAN is
    >> installed,
    >> you will then be able to establish connection with your router. Now
    >> activate
    >> Windows. If activation fails you will be given a phone number to call for
    >> activation.

    >
    >
    > Thanks for the reply Mark. I am attempting that now, I did the repair
    > install 2x already but will try it again.
    >
    > The trouble I am having is that no matter how I get to the login screen,
    > after I complete login I get the WPA Yes/No before I can install the
    > network driver. This means that if I say Yes then pc is stuck in a loop
    > of trying to do internet WPA without network drivers, or I say No and it
    > kicks me back to login screen.
    >
    > I am doing the repair install now, if only I could somehow slipstream the
    > network driver then I could make this work.
    >
    > Can I slipstream the network driver?
    >
    > Will let you know how this install repair goes soon.



    Ok I have tried the Repair Install again, started up in VGA mode, logged in
    and cancelled (No) to the WPA prompt, and it immediately logs me off and
    kicks me back to the Login screen.

    This is ridiculous. Network access is needed for WPA internet to work, yet
    it wont let me install a network driver, infinite loop.

    Driver CD came with the motherboard, I have the drivers and they do work
    because when I did the test clean install of Windows on another hard drive
    in this PC I was able to connect to the internet.

    I am now going to see if I can find a way of making the Network Drivers
    available during the Repair Install.

    Is there a way I can make autoexec.bat run a driver installation for the
    network driver?

    Regards.
     
  7. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:uo0LLgGRLHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23iTWWGGRLHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> Thanks for the reply Mark. I am attempting that now, I did the repair
    >> install 2x already but will try it again.
    >>
    >> The trouble I am having is that no matter how I get to the login screen,
    >> after I complete login I get the WPA Yes/No before I can install the
    >> network driver. This means that if I say Yes then pc is stuck in a loop
    >> of trying to do internet WPA without network drivers, or I say No and it
    >> kicks me back to login screen.
    >>
    >> I am doing the repair install now, if only I could somehow slipstream the
    >> network driver then I could make this work.
    >>
    >> Can I slipstream the network driver?
    >>
    >> Will let you know how this install repair goes soon.

    >
    >
    > Ok I have tried the Repair Install again, started up in VGA mode, logged
    > in and cancelled (No) to the WPA prompt, and it immediately logs me off
    > and kicks me back to the Login screen.
    >
    > This is ridiculous. Network access is needed for WPA internet to work,
    > yet it wont let me install a network driver, infinite loop.
    >
    > Driver CD came with the motherboard, I have the drivers and they do work
    > because when I did the test clean install of Windows on another hard drive
    > in this PC I was able to connect to the internet.
    >
    > I am now going to see if I can find a way of making the Network Drivers
    > available during the Repair Install.
    >
    > Is there a way I can make autoexec.bat run a driver installation for the
    > network driver?



    Ok I have done it, I think. I edited the autoexec.bat which was empty and
    wrote in this:
    F:/LANXP\setup.exe /installquiet
    H:/ASROCK_CD\Drivers\LAN\REALTEK\XP64_XP(5702)\setupexe /installquiet

    F might have failed because it's actually the C drive now, so I think that
    the H drive worked. H is actually a USB stick that I copied the drivers to.
    I don't know if F gave errors because of the /installquiet command.

    Anyway I started in Safe Mode, autoexec must have run, and it took a long
    time to change from the text loading screen that shows
    system32/drivers/mup.sys etc before it switched to the logon screen. This
    logon screen also looked different and I haven't had a WPA message.

    WPA - the activation icon message is in the bottom right of the screen,
    which is fine, I will try doing this once I have installed all the new
    drivers for the new motherboard.

    Thanks for your help Mark, if you hadn't replied I probably would have given
    up and just installed a fresh Windows install.

    Regards.
     
  8. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:27:29 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >Thanks for the reply Mark. I am attempting that now, I did the repair
    >install 2x already but will try it again.
    >
    >The trouble I am having is that no matter how I get to the login screen,
    >after I complete login I get the WPA Yes/No before I can install the network
    >driver.


    I don't know much, but maybe this is "out of the mouths of babes".

    Do you have the internet connected to your computer? I was under the
    impression that it can't know that your hardware doesn't match what it
    used to be, in fact it can't know anything at all about a license
    being or seeming unauthorized until it communicates with MS via the
    web.

    So can you disconnect your internet and install, debug if necessary,
    the network driver then?

    > This means that if I say Yes then pc is stuck in a loop of trying
    >to do internet WPA without network drivers, or I say No and it kicks me back
    >to login screen.


    I figure it won't even ask if you're not connected to the net.


    >
    >I am doing the repair install now, if only I could somehow slipstream the
    >network driver then I could make this work.
    >
    >Can I slipstream the network driver?
    >
    >Will let you know how this install repair goes soon.
    >
    >Thanks.
     
  9. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
    news:dhha76l2vrbbdbu4aejq3mahqhfhubalsq@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:27:29 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Thanks for the reply Mark. I am attempting that now, I did the repair
    >>install 2x already but will try it again.
    >>
    >>The trouble I am having is that no matter how I get to the login screen,
    >>after I complete login I get the WPA Yes/No before I can install the
    >>network
    >>driver.

    >
    > I don't know much, but maybe this is "out of the mouths of babes".
    >
    > Do you have the internet connected to your computer?


    Yes, and I can see that this pc's network cable socket on the router is lit
    up, BUT this pc is not listed on the router in Attached Devices = therefore
    this pc's network drivers (or something else) isn't working properly. Now
    it's a new mobo and needs the drivers installed, so that's what I am
    assuming it is.

    > I was under the
    > impression that it can't know that your hardware doesn't match what it
    > used to be, in fact it can't know anything at all about a license
    > being or seeming unauthorized until it communicates with MS via the
    > web.


    WPA, as I am learning, uses a table and it checks the hardware against this
    table for your pc. You need to score 7 marks to pass, because I changed the
    mobo this is failing.

    > So can you disconnect your internet and install, debug if necessary,
    > the network driver then?
    >
    >> This means that if I say Yes then pc is stuck in a loop of trying
    >>to do internet WPA without network drivers, or I say No and it kicks me
    >>back
    >>to login screen.

    >
    > I figure it won't even ask if you're not connected to the net.


    It makes no difference if I remove the network cable or not, I have actually
    tried it both ways just in case.

    >>I am doing the repair install now, if only I could somehow slipstream the
    >>network driver then I could make this work.
    >>
    >>Can I slipstream the network driver?
    >>
    >>Will let you know how this install repair goes soon.
    >>
    >>Thanks.


    Thanks for the reply.
     
  10. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:ulCIU0GRLHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >
    >> Is there a way I can make autoexec.bat run a driver installation for the
    >> network driver?

    >
    >
    > Ok I have done it, I think. I edited the autoexec.bat which was empty and
    > wrote in this:
    > F:/LANXP\setup.exe /installquiet
    > H:/ASROCK_CD\Drivers\LAN\REALTEK\XP64_XP(5702)\setupexe /installquiet
    >
    > F might have failed because it's actually the C drive now, so I think that
    > the H drive worked. H is actually a USB stick that I copied the drivers
    > to. I don't know if F gave errors because of the /installquiet command.
    >
    > Anyway I started in Safe Mode, autoexec must have run, and it took a long
    > time to change from the text loading screen that shows
    > system32/drivers/mup.sys etc before it switched to the logon screen. This
    > logon screen also looked different and I haven't had a WPA message.
    >
    > WPA - the activation icon message is in the bottom right of the screen,
    > which is fine, I will try doing this once I have installed all the new
    > drivers for the new motherboard.
    >
    > Thanks for your help Mark, if you hadn't replied I probably would have
    > given up and just installed a fresh Windows install.



    I spoke too soon. I am back in the same loop even though for that one login
    I was able to install video driver, I think LAN, but not all the other mobo
    drivers even though I thought I had installed the major ones.

    I am trying similar methods to the one that worked. Asrock driver CD is
    actuallys a 3.2GB DVD. 3.2GB is too much. Anyway I am copying this to the
    root directory and will try to run the setup application, the problem I have
    is that the Setup program is just a click-screen gui, so I need to run the
    first click. The first click - Install All, that's the link I need to put
    in Autoexec.bat. I think.

    Regards.
     
  11. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:08:54 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >
    >I spoke too soon. I am back in the same loop even though for that one login
    >I was able to install video driver, I think LAN, but not all the other mobo
    >drivers even though I thought I had installed the major ones.
    >
    >I am trying similar methods to the one that worked. Asrock driver CD is
    >actuallys a 3.2GB DVD. 3.2GB is too much. Anyway I am copying this to the
    >root directory and will try to run the setup application, the problem I have
    >is that the Setup program is just a click-screen gui, so I need to run the
    >first click. The first click - Install All, that's the link I need to put
    >in Autoexec.bat. I think.
    >
    >Regards.


    I haven't been through this yet, I'm just getting prepared; and I
    don't know if this has anything to do with your problem; and I don't
    have the URL and this is for Dell which may nor may not be the same
    for other makes, but last night I saved what Dell says is the proper
    order for installing drivers:


    The following list is an overview of the correct order to install
    drivers on Dell desktops and portables. After reinstalling Microsoft®
    Windows®, follow the order listed when reinstalling drivers. It is
    recommended that you print this list for reference when installing
    drivers.

    Note: Some devices may not function properly if the drivers are
    installed out of order.

    1. Desktop System Software (DSS) or Notebook System Software (NSS) -
    A vital utility that provides critical updates and patches for the
    operating system. If you are reinstalling Windows or updating all
    drivers, it is important that this software be installed first. This
    is located under the System Utilities Category on the Drivers and
    Downloads page.

    Note : NSS and DSS may not be available for all desktop and notebook
    products.

    2. Chipset - Helps Windows control system board components and
    controllers. This is located under the Chipset Category on the Drivers
    and Downloads page.

    3. Video Adapter - Enhances video performance. This is located under
    the Video Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.

    4. Network Interface Card (NIC) - Enhances the network controller for
    Internet or network access. This is located under the Network Category
    on the Drivers and Downloads page.

    5. Laptops Only: Dell Quickset or Dell Control Point Manager (DCP) -
    Controls power management, ambient light sensor, wireless profiles,
    and security features on laptops. This is located under the
    Applications on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    6. Audio Adapter - Enables and enhances the audio controller. This is
    located under the Audio Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.

    7. Modem - Allows dial-up capability. This is located under the
    Communication Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.

    8. Wireless Network Card - Enables and enhances the wireless network
    controller. This is located under the Network Category on the Drivers
    and Downloads page.

    9. Touchpad, Pointer, Trackstick, Mice, and Keyboards - Enhances the
    pointing device features. This is located under the Input Device
    Drivers Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.

    10. Other Devices

    * Intel vProTM or AMTTM - Enhances system manageability. This is
    located under the Chipset Category on on the Drivers and Downloads
    page.
    * Bluetooth ® Module located under the Network Category on the
    Drivers and Downloads page.
    * Dell Wireless Mobile Broadband Cards located under the
    Communication Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    * PCMCIA/Smartcard controller located under the Security Category
    on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    * Touch Screen Digitizer Enables touch screen mouse control
    available on select Dell laptops. This is located under the Input
    Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
     
  12. Derek2

    Derek2 Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
    news:2a1b76p3r1h5rqa5vr15a1gjdsncmivhba@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:08:54 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>I spoke too soon. I am back in the same loop even though for that one
    >>login
    >>I was able to install video driver, I think LAN, but not all the other
    >>mobo
    >>drivers even though I thought I had installed the major ones.
    >>
    >>I am trying similar methods to the one that worked. Asrock driver CD is
    >>actuallys a 3.2GB DVD. 3.2GB is too much. Anyway I am copying this to
    >>the
    >>root directory and will try to run the setup application, the problem I
    >>have
    >>is that the Setup program is just a click-screen gui, so I need to run the
    >>first click. The first click - Install All, that's the link I need to put
    >>in Autoexec.bat. I think.
    >>
    >>Regards.

    >
    > I haven't been through this yet, I'm just getting prepared; and I
    > don't know if this has anything to do with your problem; and I don't
    > have the URL and this is for Dell which may nor may not be the same
    > for other makes, but last night I saved what Dell says is the proper
    > order for installing drivers:
    >
    >
    > The following list is an overview of the correct order to install
    > drivers on Dell desktops and portables. After reinstalling Microsoft®
    > Windows®, follow the order listed when reinstalling drivers. It is
    > recommended that you print this list for reference when installing
    > drivers.
    >
    > Note: Some devices may not function properly if the drivers are
    > installed out of order.
    >
    > 1. Desktop System Software (DSS) or Notebook System Software (NSS) -
    > A vital utility that provides critical updates and patches for the
    > operating system. If you are reinstalling Windows or updating all
    > drivers, it is important that this software be installed first. This
    > is located under the System Utilities Category on the Drivers and
    > Downloads page.
    >
    > Note : NSS and DSS may not be available for all desktop and notebook
    > products.
    >
    > 2. Chipset - Helps Windows control system board components and
    > controllers. This is located under the Chipset Category on the Drivers
    > and Downloads page.
    >
    > 3. Video Adapter - Enhances video performance. This is located under
    > the Video Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    >
    > 4. Network Interface Card (NIC) - Enhances the network controller for
    > Internet or network access. This is located under the Network Category
    > on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    >
    > 5. Laptops Only: Dell Quickset or Dell Control Point Manager (DCP) -
    > Controls power management, ambient light sensor, wireless profiles,
    > and security features on laptops. This is located under the
    > Applications on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    > 6. Audio Adapter - Enables and enhances the audio controller. This is
    > located under the Audio Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    >
    > 7. Modem - Allows dial-up capability. This is located under the
    > Communication Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    >
    > 8. Wireless Network Card - Enables and enhances the wireless network
    > controller. This is located under the Network Category on the Drivers
    > and Downloads page.
    >
    > 9. Touchpad, Pointer, Trackstick, Mice, and Keyboards - Enhances the
    > pointing device features. This is located under the Input Device
    > Drivers Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    >
    > 10. Other Devices
    >
    > * Intel vProTM or AMTTM - Enhances system manageability. This is
    > located under the Chipset Category on on the Drivers and Downloads
    > page.
    > * Bluetooth ® Module located under the Network Category on the
    > Drivers and Downloads page.
    > * Dell Wireless Mobile Broadband Cards located under the
    > Communication Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    > * PCMCIA/Smartcard controller located under the Security Category
    > on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    > * Touch Screen Digitizer Enables touch screen mouse control
    > available on select Dell laptops. This is located under the Input
    > Category on the Drivers and Downloads page.
    >



    Hi MM,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I've been getting a bit closer to solving it, or I think I am.

    When doing a Repair Install of Windows XP it resets IE to 6. This is part
    of the reason why Activation is failing. I've learned that if I login using
    Safe Mode Command Prompt and then type in "explorer" at the command prompt
    then I can get a working Safe Mode without the Product Activation headache
    I've been having.

    It appears that many people have been caught in the same loop as myself, and
    that Internet Explorer 6 is the problem. Installing IE 8 fixes it. And so
    far that seems to be working for me.

    Trying to run Internet Explorer 6 is giving me an error

    Ok so I downloaded IE8 on another pc and copied it to the problem pc. Run
    the exe and it has installed IE8.

    Restarting the problem pc and it works, I get a product activation within 30
    days message, but it's working fine.

    Some people having the same problem found this page useful, I did do the
    oobe thing but I'm not sure if it was necessary since IE6 seemed to be to
    blame, and once I installed IE8 everything seemed ok.

    IE7 is also problematic, according to the internet reports, so go straight
    to IE8 which you may need to download on another pc first.

    So far it's looking like it might work ok. Huge number of fixes and SP3 to
    go through.

    Thanks and I hope this might help others.
     
  13. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:56:20 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >IE7 is also problematic, according to the internet reports, so go straight


    When I first installed XP Home, either a year or two years ago, I
    upgraded to IE7 and had lots of problems. I could't decide whether to
    go back to 6 or up to 8. Then something caused XP to break, so that
    it woudln't start all the way, and I went back to 98SE.

    I don't remember what happened about IE when I got XP working again,
    but I spent no more time with 7 and got up to 8 somehow.

    >to IE8 which you may need to download on another pc first.
    >
    >So far it's looking like it might work ok. Huge number of fixes and SP3 to
    >go through.
    >
    >Thanks and I hope this might help others.


    I hope I don't have to go through this! gOOD LUCK.
     
  14. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:06:02 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    wrote:

    >
    >> I was under the
    >> impression that it can't know that your hardware doesn't match what it
    >> used to be, in fact it can't know anything at all about a license
    >> being or seeming unauthorized until it communicates with MS via the
    >> web.

    >
    >WPA, as I am learning, uses a table and it checks the hardware against this
    >table for your pc. You need to score 7 marks to pass, because I changed the
    >mobo this is failing.


    So this table is in the local software, not at MS-Supreme-HQ? Because
    they only used a limited number of mobos when they built their
    computers and yours isn't one of them?
     
  15. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    "mm" wrote:

    > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:06:02 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >> I was under the
    > >> impression that it can't know that your hardware doesn't match what it
    > >> used to be, in fact it can't know anything at all about a license
    > >> being or seeming unauthorized until it communicates with MS via the
    > >> web.

    > >
    > >WPA, as I am learning, uses a table and it checks the hardware against this
    > >table for your pc. You need to score 7 marks to pass, because I changed the
    > >mobo this is failing.

    >
    > So this table is in the local software, not at MS-Supreme-HQ? Because
    > they only used a limited number of mobos when they built their
    > computers and yours isn't one of them?
    > .
    >


    Here is an explanation of Windows Product Activation:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307890
     
  16. mm

    mm Flightless Bird

    Re: Replaced motherboard due to hardware failure, it's not identic

    On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:52:03 -0700, Mark Adams
    <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >
    >
    >"mm" wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:06:02 +0100, "Derek2" <nospam@nospam.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >> I was under the
    >> >> impression that it can't know that your hardware doesn't match what it
    >> >> used to be, in fact it can't know anything at all about a license
    >> >> being or seeming unauthorized until it communicates with MS via the
    >> >> web.
    >> >
    >> >WPA, as I am learning, uses a table and it checks the hardware against this
    >> >table for your pc. You need to score 7 marks to pass, because I changed the
    >> >mobo this is failing.

    >>
    >> So this table is in the local software, not at MS-Supreme-HQ? Because
    >> they only used a limited number of mobos when they built their
    >> computers and yours isn't one of them?
    >> .
    >>

    >
    >Here is an explanation of Windows Product Activation:
    >
    >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307890


    Thanks.
     

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