Re: System Dies after IE8 Updates

[SC Tom]

Yeah, I kinda figured that from the rest of the sentence. Glad everything's
working well now!!

"V" <noemai@notreal.com> wrote in message
news:eWhAt11BLHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yep, and by the way ment boss now happy I typo'ed the last post to say
> not.
>
> He really did not want a new machine but now that he has a new laptop with
> an LED screen he loves it.
> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
> news76joo1BLHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hey, gotta keep the boss happy!
>>
>> "V" <noemai@notreal.com> wrote in message
>> news:enFM$T1BLHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Agreed, the computer is long gone and a new one is up and running. Boss
>>> not happy and glad I insisted on a new computer.
>>>
>>>
>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23InZojcBLHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sounds like it may possibly be a shorted capacitor or two. That's
>>>> fixable, if you want to go through the trouble of finding which one(s)
>>>> it is. With the cost of boards being what they are, I personally
>>>> probably wouldn't go through that kind of problem unless I wanted a
>>>> project to work on
>>>> --
>>>> SC Tom
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I try not to assume. It just seems to get me in trouble. . .
>>>>
>>>> "V" <noemai@notreal.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ecp4c9bBLHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks for making this a suggestion instead of assuming.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct about booting out of the operating system to test the
>>>>> hardware. I did that with a live version of Linux. all seemed well so
>>>>> I continued on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reloaded the software just to find out I had issues during Windows
>>>>> updates. Thought maybe got a corrupt update and that caused my issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway in the end on the last attempt the issue got worse and that is
>>>>> when I decided it was a mainboard short.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems that you can boot it good several times then the next two or
>>>>> three times it would not boot at all then finally it would boot again.
>>>>> Then it would stop again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just one of those issues where you thing you have it fixed just to
>>>>> find out you were looking in the wrong place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wish it had been something obvious like a bad hard drive or cd
>>>>> rom drive and or even memory, but it was not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Well I guess getting burned by tricky hardware once in 10 years is
>>>>> not bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a good day.
>>>>>
>>>>> "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
>>>>> newsDANt0KBLHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> No offense, but many of the backup and/or imaging programs have the
>>>>>> means to boot outside of the operating system, so a "days work
>>>>>> involved trying to get the darn machine just back in running
>>>>>> condition before I even tried to recover the backups" wouldn't have
>>>>>> been necessary. When my HDD crashed, I was back up and running in
>>>>>> less than 4 hours, and that included the trip to store to buy a new
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> SC Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "V" <noemai@notreal.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23Xt$YaCBLHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Not to sound negative here but for some reason on this case everyone
>>>>>>> here is giving me grief about things
>>>>>>> they think I should have done and not done like backing up without
>>>>>>> asking if I did so and Not having
>>>>>>> Antivirus for one of the tests. I explained Antivirus eariler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Backing up is not the issue here. I probably backup more than
>>>>>>> anyone. I have
>>>>>>> multipal backups in several locations. One on site and two remote
>>>>>>> locations. I have never lost anything due to not having a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Had this machine worked like it should the thing would have been up
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> running in no time. I also have many other computers at my becon
>>>>>>> call so one
>>>>>>> machine down for a few hours or even days will not kill me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The days work involved trying to get the darn machine just back in
>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>> condition before I even tried to recover the backups. We wanted
>>>>>>> badly to
>>>>>>> keep the XP machine running just due to some old software we wanted
>>>>>>> to run
>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This machine is one of those things that turned out to be very hard
>>>>>>> to find.
>>>>>>> Like a car that don't work for you but works just fine when you take
>>>>>>> it to
>>>>>>> the shop. Turns out there is an intermittent short in the mainboard
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> made you think it was the OS when it really was hardware related.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway the computer is now in the dumpster and a new one was
>>>>>>> purchased.
>>>>>>> "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ujS8J4$ALHA.3608@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> "A days work getting the problem fixed..."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too bad you haven't heard about backing up. You could have been
>>>>>>>> back at
>>>>>>>> work in minutes.
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Leonard Grey
>>>>>>>> Errare humanum est
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lucky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "V" <noemai@notreal.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uUYHms1ALHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have successfully removed the updates by doing a system restore
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the machine is once again working perfectly. This now tells me
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Antivirus program was not causing an issue but rather Windows
>>>>>>>>>> Updates
>>>>>>>>>> are at fault.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will be reinstalling the updates one at a time until I figure
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> which one is the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not a surprise to me. I had my computer totally crashed after one
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's "debugged and released to the public" updates.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A days work getting the problem fixed and the OS re-installed and
>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> properly and another day getting the software back up and running.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's tech could have cared less. He was getting paid. But,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> wasn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not surprisingly, I no longer use any Microsoft software when I
>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>> good alternative.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

On 2010-06-05 87 p.m., Leonard Grey wrote:

> The type of backup you are asking about is called an image, or a disk
> image. An image is an exact, sector-by-sector copy of a disk or disk
> partition, including the disk meta-data needed to boot. With a disk
> imaging application, you can backup your software (including Windows) so
> that you never have to re-install from scratch again.

Note that the backup software included in Windows 7 can create a system image.
I don't think it's a sector-based image, but it is supposed to be capable of
restoring the OS. (I haven't actually tried the procedure out, mind you.)

Harry.


>
> Disk imaging is a powerful tool, and a little difficult to grasp at
> first. But it's so worth the effort to learn how it works and how to use
> it.
>
> Once you learn how to use the software, you'll want to backup every day,
> at least. Then, the next time a bad driver update (for example) hoses
> your system, you merely chuckle as you pour yourself a soothing /Haut
> Medoc/ while your imaging application restores your software to exactly
> the way it was before.
>
> Disk imaging is complex, so there are only a handful of applications
> that do it really well. Some of the better known are (no order
> intended): Acronis True Image, Norton Ghost and Paragon Backup and
> Recovery. I personally use StorageCraft ShadowProtect, but most people
> don't want to spend that much ($90) for backup software.
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> Lucky wrote:
>> My computer crashed. I had to do a complete reformat and clean
>> install(as recommended by the MS Tech).
>> The files were the easy part. They WERE backed up. Do you know of a
>> backup that covers the total operating system, all of Windows related
>> programs and all the programs that I had installed on the computer.
>> Please let me know if you do, because I would sure be interested.\
>>
>> Lucky
>>
>> "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ujS8J4$ALHA.3608@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "A days work getting the problem fixed..."
>>>
>>> Too bad you haven't heard about backing up. You could have been back
>>> at work in minutes.
>>> ---
>>> Leonard Grey
>>> Errare humanum est
>>>
>>> Lucky wrote:
>>>> "V" <noemai@notreal.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uUYHms1ALHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have successfully removed the updates by doing a system restore
>>>>> and the machine is once again working perfectly. This now tells me
>>>>> the Antivirus program was not causing an issue but rather Windows
>>>>> Updates are at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be reinstalling the updates one at a time until I figure out
>>>>> which one is the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Not a surprise to me. I had my computer totally crashed after one of
>>>> Microsoft's "debugged and released to the public" updates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A days work getting the problem fixed and the OS re-installed and
>>>> working properly and another day getting the software back up and
>>>> running.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft's tech could have cared less. He was getting paid. But, I
>>>> wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Not surprisingly, I no longer use any Microsoft software when I have
>>>> a good alternative.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>


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Harry Johnston
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