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Re: How backward compatible is MS? a Linux spin what else is new?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Big Steel Shoe Kicker, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. Big Steel Shoe Kicker

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    Rex Ballard wrote:
    > On Jun 29, 11:55 pm, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
    >> This post from alt.windows7.general will give you an idea:

    >
    >> <quote>
    >> I am on a new Dell XPS 8100 with Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium. On
    >> this machine, a program that I use frequently, that works perfectly on
    >> XP and Vista, has a video problem that causes the program's window to
    >> sometimes blink every few seconds, a big annoyance. Dell technical
    >> support says the problem will go away if I upgrade to Windows 7
    >> Ultimate by buying a disc from them for $200.

    >
    > Microsoft seems to have tested only it's own XP applications for
    > backward compatibility, and this apparently does NOT include Microsoft
    > Office 2000 or 2003. If you purchase a machine with Windows 7
    > preinstalled, the assumption is that you will also pay $163 for the
    > basic version of Microsoft Office. It is also assumed that you will
    > pay an additional $100/year for warranty support, and for laptops,
    > another $100/year for replacement service. This for a computer that
    > might only cost $350 to $400.
    >
    >> However, I see that
    >> Microsoft has some download called Windows Anytime Upgrade, $89.95 for
    >> Windows 7 Professional and $139.95 for Windows 7 Ultimate. Apparently,
    >> after I install that, I will have to download Windows XP Mode and
    >> Windows Virtual PC which I hope are free downloads. I don't think I
    >> need to get more memory since I already have 8Gs.

    >
    > One of the "fuzzy areas" is whether you are legally allowed to install
    > virtualization software, such as VirtualBox, VMWare, or Parallels, and
    > then install a Windows XP image on one of those systems. The license
    > for Windows 7 professional does permit this, as does Ultimate, but
    > even this is "fuzzy" since the language could also be interpreted that
    > you can only use Microsoft's VMWare image.
    >
    > Ironically, all versions of Windows 7 permit you to "downgrade" to
    > Windows XP, and you can install the downgrade as a virtualized system,
    > but you'd have to install it on native mode Linux, since Windows Home
    > Premium and Windows 7 Basic only permit you to run one version of
    > Windows at a time.
    >
    > Microsoft's license terms are one of the big reasons that corporate
    > customers are clinging to Windows XP and threatening to switch to
    > Linux if Microsoft attempts to force them to make an upgrade to
    > Windows 7 or decides to stop supporting Windows XP or adds equally
    > restrictive terms to upgrades such as Service Pack 3.
    >
    >> Do I really need to buy the operating system disc or is the Anytime
    >> Upgrade enough?

    >
    > The anytime upgrade is probably enough, but you may still need to
    > download the media to install/enable Windows XP functionality.
    >
    >> If I an not interested in Bitlocker or working in
    >> multiple languages, is there any reason to go with the Ultimate
    >> instead of the Professional upgrade? Thanks in advance for advice.
    >> </quote>

    >
    > Read the licenses carefully, and then have your lawyer read them. It
    > appears that you should be able to run XP functionality with Windows 7
    > professional, but
    >
    > Here is a link to the licenses
    >
    > http://tinyurl.com/2u3z9dy
    >
    > http://download.microsoft.com/Docum...lish_f3fcb9dc-3b69-4a18-ae3c-7d7bede82812.pdf
    >
    > Some problems:
    > Section 2.a - One copy per computer - this means that you can't
    > install Windows 7 Home Premium in more than one version at at time,
    > this includes downgrades to Windows XP. The same is true with Windows
    > Professional.
    >
    > You not only can't use Microsoft libraries with WINE, you also can't
    > use Microsoft Fonts with OpenOffice.
    >
    > Ironically, if you install Linux as the Native operating system, you
    > are legally allowed to downgrade to Windows XP and install that in
    > virtualized form.
    >
    > Many corporate customers are looking at this alternative, because of
    > just the kinds of problems you are describing. Many companies are
    > running on software that depends on Windows XP, and WON'T run on
    > Windows 7, and new hardware has no drivers for Windows XP.
    >
    >> So, to get his old XP program working in win7, he only needs to spend
    >> $200 - or maybe only $140. Great compatibility.

    >
    > OR you can install the legal downgrade, and install Linux as the
    > native operating system and download Windows XP into a virtualized
    > environment.
    >
    > The Microsoft EULA also permits you to upgrade and downgrade at will.
    > You can run virtualized XP and then run virtualized Windows 7, but you
    > can't run Virtualized XP ON Native Windows 7.
    >
    >
     

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