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RC still good?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Avatar, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Avatar

    Avatar Flightless Bird

    Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this OS,
    before buying it.
    We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be installed
    now?
    Regards and TIA.
    Avatar
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  2. Lord Vetinari

    Lord Vetinari Flightless Bird

    "Avatar" <avatar@re.birth> wrote in message
    news:hj9vk6$is5$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    > Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    > OS,
    > before buying it.
    > We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be installed
    > now?


    It certainly can. Do you also still have the key? I've misplaced all of
    mine......
     
  3. Van Chocstraw

    Van Chocstraw Flightless Bird

    Avatar wrote:
    > Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this OS,
    > before buying it.
    > We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be installed
    > now?
    > Regards and TIA.
    > Avatar
    > ----------
    >
    >

    I think it's in degraded mode now and will cease to function in March.
     
  4. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:40:33 -0500, Van Chocstraw wrote:

    > Avatar wrote:
    >> Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    >> OS, before buying it.
    >> We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be
    >> installed now?
    >> Regards and TIA.
    >> Avatar
    >> ----------
    >>
    >>

    > I think it's in degraded mode now and will cease to function in March.


    Probably not if you change the date in the computer!
     
  5. Muad'Dib

    Muad'Dib Flightless Bird

    Avatar wrote:
    > Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this OS,
    > before buying it.
    > We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be installed
    > now?
    > Regards and TIA.
    > Avatar
    > ----------
    >
    >

    From MS Technet:

    "Watch the calendar: The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on
    March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows
    will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid
    interruption, you’ll need to install a non-expired version of Windows
    before March 1, 2010. You’ll also need to install the programs and data
    that you want to use."

    G'day
     
  6. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:16:37 -0700, Muad'Dib wrote:

    > Avatar wrote:
    >> Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    >> OS, before buying it.
    >> We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be
    >> installed now?
    >> Regards and TIA.
    >> Avatar
    >> ----------
    >>
    >>

    > From MS Technet:
    >
    > "Watch the calendar: The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on
    > March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows
    > will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid
    > interruption, you’ll need to install a non-expired version of Windows
    > before March 1, 2010. You’ll also need to install the programs and data
    > that you want to use."
    >
    > G'day


    Or, simply lie about the date when you install - reset the time in the
    BIOS and keep it off the network - how is it going to tell?
     
  7. Charles Tomaras

    Charles Tomaras Flightless Bird

    "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    news:7ru1thF1snU2@mid.individual.net...
    > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:16:37 -0700, Muad'Dib wrote:
    >
    >> Avatar wrote:
    >>> Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    >>> OS, before buying it.
    >>> We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be
    >>> installed now?
    >>> Regards and TIA.
    >>> Avatar
    >>> ----------
    >>>
    >>>

    >> From MS Technet:
    >>
    >> "Watch the calendar: The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on
    >> March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows
    >> will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid
    >> interruption, you'll need to install a non-expired version of Windows
    >> before March 1, 2010. You'll also need to install the programs and data
    >> that you want to use."
    >>
    >> G'day

    >
    > Or, simply lie about the date when you install - reset the time in the
    > BIOS and keep it off the network - how is it going to tell?


    Don't think keeping a computer off the network is much of an option for most
    of us who are using Usenet.

    One thing you will need to know when you purchase your copy of Windows 7 is
    that the RC is Ultimate and you cannot downgrade to anything less than
    Ultimate while doing an in place upgrade install. If you want to install
    professional or home you will need to do a clean install.
     
  8. Muad'Dib

    Muad'Dib Flightless Bird

    ray wrote:
    > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:16:37 -0700, Muad'Dib wrote:
    >
    >> Avatar wrote:
    >>> Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    >>> OS, before buying it.
    >>> We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be
    >>> installed now?
    >>> Regards and TIA.
    >>> Avatar
    >>> ----------
    >>>
    >>>

    >> From MS Technet:
    >>
    >> "Watch the calendar: The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on
    >> March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows
    >> will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid
    >> interruption, you’ll need to install a non-expired version of Windows
    >> before March 1, 2010. You’ll also need to install the programs and data
    >> that you want to use."
    >>
    >> G'day

    >
    > Or, simply lie about the date when you install - reset the time in the
    > BIOS and keep it off the network - how is it going to tell?


    Hehe, in my younger days I did just that to "test" one thing or another
    past its expiration. Now days I just purchase the non expiring version
    of whatever I decide is for me, or dump it after expiration if its not
    what I want. Karma Dude, can't get away from it, so it might as well be
    good Karma. <grin>

    G'day
     
  9. Muad'Dib

    Muad'Dib Flightless Bird

    Charles Tomaras wrote:
    > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    > news:7ru1thF1snU2@mid.individual.net...
    >> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:16:37 -0700, Muad'Dib wrote:
    >>
    >>> Avatar wrote:
    >>>> Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    >>>> OS, before buying it.
    >>>> We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be
    >>>> installed now?
    >>>> Regards and TIA.
    >>>> Avatar
    >>>> ----------
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> From MS Technet:
    >>>
    >>> "Watch the calendar: The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on
    >>> March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows
    >>> will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid
    >>> interruption, you'll need to install a non-expired version of Windows
    >>> before March 1, 2010. You'll also need to install the programs and data
    >>> that you want to use."
    >>>
    >>> G'day

    >> Or, simply lie about the date when you install - reset the time in the
    >> BIOS and keep it off the network - how is it going to tell?

    >
    > Don't think keeping a computer off the network is much of an option for most
    > of us who are using Usenet.


    Well, to just test and see if its something they like and would want to
    upgrade to, wouldn't be so bad. However, if it were me, I surely would
    want to test networking as well, sooo...

    > One thing you will need to know when you purchase your copy of Windows 7 is
    > that the RC is Ultimate and you cannot downgrade to anything less than
    > Ultimate while doing an in place upgrade install. If you want to install
    > professional or home you will need to do a clean install.


    One can do the upgrade from RC to RTM following a couple easy steps as I
    did with Win7 Pro RTM, but for those who are technically challenged they
    just need to reinstall the OS they had and then do the Win7 upgrade or
    install, keeping in mind that XP will NOT upgrade but will clean install
    only. Backing up everything you want before a clean install or upgrade
    is important of course.

    G'day
     
  10. Lord Vetinari

    Lord Vetinari Flightless Bird

    "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
    news:ABk6n.1962$PI7.369@newsfe17.iad...
    > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    > news:7ru1thF1snU2@mid.individual.net...
    >> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:16:37 -0700, Muad'Dib wrote:
    >>> Avatar wrote:
    >>>> Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this
    >>>> OS, before buying it.
    >>>> We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be
    >>>> installed now?
    >>>> Regards and TIA.
    >>>> Avatar
    >>>> ----------
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> From MS Technet:
    >>>
    >>> "Watch the calendar: The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on
    >>> March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows
    >>> will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid
    >>> interruption, you'll need to install a non-expired version of Windows
    >>> before March 1, 2010. You'll also need to install the programs and data
    >>> that you want to use."
    >>>
    >>> G'day

    >>
    >> Or, simply lie about the date when you install - reset the time in the
    >> BIOS and keep it off the network - how is it going to tell?

    >
    > Don't think keeping a computer off the network is much of an option for
    > most of us who are using Usenet.
    >
    > One thing you will need to know when you purchase your copy of Windows 7
    > is that the RC is Ultimate and you cannot downgrade to anything less than
    > Ultimate while doing an in place upgrade install. If you want to install
    > professional or home you will need to do a clean install.


    I ran into that. When you signed up for the RC, there was a warning about
    it.
     
  11. Charles Tomaras

    Charles Tomaras Flightless Bird

    "Muad'Dib" <idaspud52@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:4B5A1FCE.5080804@nospamhotmail.com...

    >
    >> One thing you will need to know when you purchase your copy of Windows 7
    >> is that the RC is Ultimate and you cannot downgrade to anything less than
    >> Ultimate while doing an in place upgrade install. If you want to install
    >> professional or home you will need to do a clean install.

    >
    > One can do the upgrade from RC to RTM following a couple easy steps as I
    > did with Win7 Pro RTM, but for those who are technically challenged they
    > just need to reinstall the OS they had and then do the Win7 upgrade or
    > install, keeping in mind that XP will NOT upgrade but will clean install
    > only. Backing up everything you want before a clean install or upgrade is
    > important of course.
    >
    > G'day


    I guess "upgrade" was a poor choice of words on my part because you need a
    full version of the Ultimate software to "convert" the RC to the release
    version without doing a clean install. You cannot install a full version of
    Professional on top of the RC.

    I think MS missed some marketing opportunities by not allowing ANY version
    of Win 7 to begin the install procedure on top of the RC, then notify the
    user that the version they are trying to install is a downgrade or an
    upgrade version while then offering to sell them the Ultimate or full
    version right there on the spot so the installation can continue. I
    encountered this very scenario trying to install the full version of
    Professional on top of the RC Ultimate and when faced with the prospects of
    bailing on the upgrade install and doing a clean install, would have gladly
    reached from my credit card at that instant! So now I did a clean install of
    Win7 Pro and MS missed that opportunity to upgrade me to Ultimate.
     
  12. Muad'Dib

    Muad'Dib Flightless Bird

    Charles Tomaras wrote:
    >
    > "Muad'Dib" <idaspud52@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:4B5A1FCE.5080804@nospamhotmail.com...
    >
    >>
    >>> One thing you will need to know when you purchase your copy of
    >>> Windows 7 is that the RC is Ultimate and you cannot downgrade to
    >>> anything less than Ultimate while doing an in place upgrade install.
    >>> If you want to install professional or home you will need to do a
    >>> clean install.

    >>
    >> One can do the upgrade from RC to RTM following a couple easy steps as
    >> I did with Win7 Pro RTM, but for those who are technically challenged
    >> they just need to reinstall the OS they had and then do the Win7
    >> upgrade or install, keeping in mind that XP will NOT upgrade but will
    >> clean install only. Backing up everything you want before a clean
    >> install or upgrade is important of course.
    >>
    >> G'day

    >
    > I guess "upgrade" was a poor choice of words on my part because you need
    > a full version of the Ultimate software to "convert" the RC to the
    > release version without doing a clean install. You cannot install a full
    > version of Professional on top of the RC.
    >
    > I think MS missed some marketing opportunities by not allowing ANY
    > version of Win 7 to begin the install procedure on top of the RC, then
    > notify the user that the version they are trying to install is a
    > downgrade or an upgrade version while then offering to sell them the
    > Ultimate or full version right there on the spot so the installation can
    > continue. I encountered this very scenario trying to install the full
    > version of Professional on top of the RC Ultimate and when faced with
    > the prospects of bailing on the upgrade install and doing a clean
    > install, would have gladly reached from my credit card at that instant!
    > So now I did a clean install of Win7 Pro and MS missed that opportunity
    > to upgrade me to Ultimate.


    Agreed, and now...

    Oops! I really DIDN'T mean an "in-place" upgrade! I ment that one can
    use the RC to do an install of RTM without having to reinstall XP or
    Vista. It WILL have to be a clean install.

    Here's how I did it with a Win7 Pro RTM upgrade disk:

    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/3075/how-to-upgrade-the-windows-7-rc-to-rtm/

    However, it did say that an upgrade couldn't be done, (From Ultimate to
    Pro Duh, lol), but it also offered to do a clean install and did it
    never-the-less. As my RC was just for testing, I saved a few things I
    wanted and did the install. So I was happy, and didn't have to install a
    copy of Vista or XP in order to do the install. I had the RC on a
    separate HD tipple booting W/ XP and Vista Ultimate, using my BIOS boot
    menu to separately boot Win7. (So not all three in a boot menu) I just
    disconnected the XP/Vista drive and did the Win7 install.

    So in the end, I clean installed as I prefer, and in short order using
    an upgrade disk.

    G'day
     
  13. bb

    bb Flightless Bird

    On 1/21/2010 11:33 AM, Avatar wrote:
    > Needed to install temporarily on a machine so user can 'check out' this OS,
    > before buying it.
    > We still have the RC ISO on a bootable disc. Can this still be installed
    > now?
    > Regards and TIA.
    > Avatar
    > ----------


    Just install one of the official published versions but do not enter a
    product key when asked. It'll work for 30 days, certainly enough time
    to check it out.
     

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