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Protecting deleted items?

M

Mike

Flightless Bird
A small office I babysit has recently had a problem with delting files
then wanting them back.
All 5 computers are XP Pro, with one acting as a server, sharing a few
directories with everyone.
Recently, several files have been deleted accidently, probably those
on the 'server' by one of the connected users.
The checkbox on recycle bin's properties is unchecked, making me think
files should stay there till bin is emptied, but that's not happening.
Storage on all recycle bins is set at default - 10%, I think, but
users can delete files & they are immediatley gone from bin.
How can I stop this & protect them from themselves?
Thanks!
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Mike wrote:
> A small office I babysit has recently had a problem with delting files
> then wanting them back.
> All 5 computers are XP Pro, with one acting as a server, sharing a few
> directories with everyone.
> Recently, several files have been deleted accidently, probably those
> on the 'server' by one of the connected users.
> The checkbox on recycle bin's properties is unchecked, making me think
> files should stay there till bin is emptied, but that's not happening.
> Storage on all recycle bins is set at default - 10%, I think, but
> users can delete files & they are immediatley gone from bin.
> How can I stop this & protect them from themselves?


You can't stop this, files deleted from network shares are permanently
deleted. You need to restore them from backups or use third party
utilities to recover the files or act as a recycle bin.

John
 
T

Terry R.

Flightless Bird
On 6/11/2010 7:23 AM On a whim, Mike pounded out on the keyboard

> A small office I babysit has recently had a problem with delting files
> then wanting them back.
> All 5 computers are XP Pro, with one acting as a server, sharing a few
> directories with everyone.
> Recently, several files have been deleted accidently, probably those
> on the 'server' by one of the connected users.
> The checkbox on recycle bin's properties is unchecked, making me think
> files should stay there till bin is emptied, but that's not happening.
> Storage on all recycle bins is set at default - 10%, I think, but
> users can delete files& they are immediatley gone from bin.
> How can I stop this& protect them from themselves?
> Thanks!


The RB only works locally. If you remove a file from a networked
computer from a different computer, the RB is bypassed.

It would be best in that case to purchase a sync program and have copies
and versions of the data stored on another drive or at least another
folder, so when one person removes a file, there is another copy and
even versions of the same file.


Terry R.
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M

Mike

Flightless Bird
On Jun 11, 9:56 am, "Terry R." <F1...@NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2010 7:23 AM On a whim, Mike pounded out on the keyboard
>
> > A small office I babysit has recently had a problem with delting files
> > then wanting them back.
> > All 5 computers are XP Pro, with one acting as a server, sharing a few
> > directories with everyone.
> > Recently, several files have been deleted accidently, probably those
> > on the 'server' by one of the connected users.
> > The checkbox on recycle bin's properties is unchecked, making me think
> > files should stay there till bin is emptied, but that's not happening.
> > Storage on all recycle bins is set at default - 10%, I think, but
> > users can delete files&  they are immediatley gone from bin.
> > How can I stop this&  protect them from themselves?
> > Thanks!

>
> The RB only works locally.  If you remove a file from a networked
> computer from a different computer, the RB is bypassed.
>
> It would be best in that case to purchase a sync program and have copies
> and versions of the data stored on another drive or at least another
> folder, so when one person removes a file, there is another copy and
> even versions of the same file.
>
> Terry R.
> --
> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.


Any suggestions on programs to try?
 
T

Terry R.

Flightless Bird
On 6/11/2010 8:20 AM On a whim, Mike pounded out on the keyboard

> On Jun 11, 9:56 am, "Terry R."<F1...@NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote:
>> On 6/11/2010 7:23 AM On a whim, Mike pounded out on the keyboard
>>
>>> A small office I babysit has recently had a problem with delting files
>>> then wanting them back.
>>> All 5 computers are XP Pro, with one acting as a server, sharing a few
>>> directories with everyone.
>>> Recently, several files have been deleted accidently, probably those
>>> on the 'server' by one of the connected users.
>>> The checkbox on recycle bin's properties is unchecked, making me think
>>> files should stay there till bin is emptied, but that's not happening.
>>> Storage on all recycle bins is set at default - 10%, I think, but
>>> users can delete files& they are immediatley gone from bin.
>>> How can I stop this& protect them from themselves?
>>> Thanks!

>> The RB only works locally. If you remove a file from a networked
>> computer from a different computer, the RB is bypassed.
>>
>> It would be best in that case to purchase a sync program and have copies
>> and versions of the data stored on another drive or at least another
>> folder, so when one person removes a file, there is another copy and
>> even versions of the same file.
>>
>> Terry R.


> Any suggestions on programs to try?


Hi Mike,

I tested All Way Sync and it seems to work well. Takes a bit to
configure it the way you want it, and I prefer a one-way sync (source to
target) rather than the two-way that is default.

There is a free version, but it doesn't handle lots of files, and the
usage is based on files on both sides. The paid version is $20 and the
2nd license is $10, so that's not unreasonable.

http://allwaysync.com/

Terry R.
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B

boatman312

Flightless Bird
On 06/15/10 9:41 AM, Terry R. wrote:
> On 6/11/2010 8:20 AM On a whim, Mike pounded out on the keyboard
>
>> On Jun 11, 9:56 am, "Terry R."<F1...@NOSPAMpobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2010 7:23 AM On a whim, Mike pounded out on the keyboard
>>>
>>>> A small office I babysit has recently had a problem with delting files
>>>> then wanting them back.
>>>> All 5 computers are XP Pro, with one acting as a server, sharing a few
>>>> directories with everyone.
>>>> Recently, several files have been deleted accidently, probably those
>>>> on the 'server' by one of the connected users.
>>>> The checkbox on recycle bin's properties is unchecked, making me think
>>>> files should stay there till bin is emptied, but that's not happening.
>>>> Storage on all recycle bins is set at default - 10%, I think, but
>>>> users can delete files& they are immediatley gone from bin.
>>>> How can I stop this& protect them from themselves?
>>>> Thanks!
>>> The RB only works locally. If you remove a file from a networked
>>> computer from a different computer, the RB is bypassed.
>>>
>>> It would be best in that case to purchase a sync program and have copies
>>> and versions of the data stored on another drive or at least another
>>> folder, so when one person removes a file, there is another copy and
>>> even versions of the same file.
>>>
>>> Terry R.

>
>> Any suggestions on programs to try?

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I tested All Way Sync and it seems to work well. Takes a bit to
> configure it the way you want it, and I prefer a one-way sync (source to
> target) rather than the two-way that is default.
>
> There is a free version, but it doesn't handle lots of files, and the
> usage is based on files on both sides. The paid version is $20 and the
> 2nd license is $10, so that's not unreasonable.
>
> http://allwaysync.com/
>
> Terry R.


I use xxcopy (with the /clone argument) to backup the server's data
folders to the local computers. If you want more security, use a
scheduled-task batch file on each computer, but schedule operation on
different days. That way, you can keep multiple versions of a file as a
hedge against file corruption. And of course, back up to external media
as often as practical.
 
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