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Program will not launch at Start

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Peter

Flightless Bird
I have a program called Backitup2zip v125 which as the name implies backs up
files to an external drive. You can select which folders to back up as
frequently as every 20 mins. It runs unobtrusively in the background just
copying changed files and worked fine under XP. The actual backup function
still works fine once loaded BUT although the program name is in the Startup
group it does not load at Startup. I've set it for XP compatibility mode
and selected "Run as Administrator". No error messages appear but I note
than when I start it manually the UAC control asks for permission to
continue. Be grateful for any ideas of alternative program suggestions. By
the way one important point is it's freeware!

Peter
To ere is human but it takes a computer to really mess things up
 
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Joel

Flightless Bird
"Peter" <xx@yy.com> wrote:

>I have a program called Backitup2zip v125 which as the name implies backs up
>files to an external drive. You can select which folders to back up as
>frequently as every 20 mins. It runs unobtrusively in the background just
>copying changed files and worked fine under XP. The actual backup function
>still works fine once loaded BUT although the program name is in the Startup
>group it does not load at Startup. I've set it for XP compatibility mode
>and selected "Run as Administrator". No error messages appear but I note
>than when I start it manually the UAC control asks for permission to
>continue. Be grateful for any ideas of alternative program suggestions. By
>the way one important point is it's freeware!


One thing to look into is that it may need to write to its own
Program Files folder. Right click on the folder name (such as
C:/Program Files\backitup2zip, or similar) in Windows Explorer, click
Properties, go to Security tab, click Edit, highlight Users, click the
check box Modify under Allow.

--
Joel Crump
 
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Joel

Flightless Bird
"Peter" <xx@yy.com> wrote:

>> I have a program called Backitup2zip v125 which as the name
>> implies backs up files to an external drive. You can select which
>> folders to back up as frequently as every 20 mins. It runs
>> unobtrusively in the background just copying changed files and
>> worked fine under XP. The actual backup function still works fine
>> once loaded BUT although the program name is in the Startup group
>> it does not load at Startup. I've set it for XP compatibility
>> mode and selected "Run as Administrator". No error messages
>> appear but I note than when I start it manually the UAC control
>> asks for permission to continue. Be grateful for any ideas of
>> alternative program suggestions. By the way one important point
>> is it's freeware!

> FUCKING BUM PLUMBER! CROTCH COWBOY! One thing to BITCH-QUEEN! CLAM
> DIGGER! FUCKING ARSE BENDER! look into is ARSE OVER TIT! FUCKING BUM
> PLUMBER! that it may SIGHTLESS CHOCOLATE-HIGHWAY! POTBELLIED CUM
> DUMPSTER! SHRILL-GORGED MEAT NAPKIN! need to write FLATHEAD! DECAYING
> TRAMP! INSENTIENT DERELICT! FUCKING PUSSY-FUCKER! SUCK MY DICK! to
> its own FUCKING BLACK JOKE! FUCKING PANIC-STRICKEN ARSE FUCK! Program
> Files folder. GUTTER SLUT! FUCKING ANAL INTRUDER! Right click on
> SHIT-FACE! the folder name FUCKING GORMLESS COMMERCIAL SEX WORKER!
> (such as C:/Program FUCKING FLOOSIE! FUCKING JEW! Files\backitup2zip,
> or similar) FUCKING ASS-WIPE! in Windows Explorer, SWINISH GAME OF
> HIDE THE SAUSAGE! click Properties, go FUCKING LESBIAN! FUCKING
> WANKER! FUCKING TWINK! to Security tab, DIZZY-EYED DOLPHIN FLOGGING!
> ARSE GAS! click Edit, highlight FUCKING BUTT BREATH! BLACK-ASS!
> Users, click the DUDES! check box Modify SQUEALING WOOFERS!
> NICKEL-AND-DIME BUTTOCK BALLING! FUCKING NO-CHINNED COCKPIT! under
> Allow.
 
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Peter

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

VM support could you please delete the filth someone has posted in this
thread

Thanks


"Joel" <joelcrump@gnn4i1.c0nnnni3> wrote in message
news:6sq4q5$e52$t@unsightly-ditch-slut.org.pakistan...
> "Peter" <xx@yy.com> wrote:
>
>>> I have a program called Backitup2zip v125 which as the name
>>> implies backs up files to an external drive. You can select which
>>> folders to back up as frequently as every 20 mins. It runs
>>> unobtrusively in the background just copying changed files and
>>> worked fine under XP. The actual backup function still works fine
>>> once loaded BUT although the program name is in the Startup group
>>> it does not load at Startup. I've set it for XP compatibility
>>> mode and selected "Run as Administrator". No error messages
>>> appear but I note than when I start it manually the UAC control
>>> asks for permission to continue. Be grateful for any ideas of
>>> alternative program suggestions. By the way one important point
>>> is it's freeware!
>
>> FUCKING BUM PLUMBER! CROTCH COWBOY! One thing to BITCH-QUEEN! CLAM
>> DIGGER! FUCKING ARSE BENDER! look into is ARSE OVER TIT! FUCKING BUM
>> PLUMBER! that it may SIGHTLESS CHOCOLATE-HIGHWAY! POTBELLIED CUM
>> DUMPSTER! SHRILL-GORGED MEAT NAPKIN! need to write FLATHEAD! DECAYING
>> TRAMP! INSENTIENT DERELICT! FUCKING PUSSY-FUCKER! SUCK MY DICK! to
>> its own FUCKING BLACK JOKE! FUCKING PANIC-STRICKEN ARSE FUCK! Program
>> Files folder. GUTTER SLUT! FUCKING ANAL INTRUDER! Right click on
>> SHIT-FACE! the folder name FUCKING GORMLESS COMMERCIAL SEX WORKER!
>> (such as C:/Program FUCKING FLOOSIE! FUCKING JEW! Files\backitup2zip,
>> or similar) FUCKING ASS-WIPE! in Windows Explorer, SWINISH GAME OF
>> HIDE THE SAUSAGE! click Properties, go FUCKING LESBIAN! FUCKING
>> WANKER! FUCKING TWINK! to Security tab, DIZZY-EYED DOLPHIN FLOGGING!
>> ARSE GAS! click Edit, highlight FUCKING BUTT BREATH! BLACK-ASS!
>> Users, click the DUDES! check box Modify SQUEALING WOOFERS!
>> NICKEL-AND-DIME BUTTOCK BALLING! FUCKING NO-CHINNED COCKPIT! under
>> Allow.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

Peter wrote:
> VM support could you please delete the filth someone has posted in this
> thread
>
> Thanks

Um, this thread doesn't belong to VM. You're on Usenet which is being
leeched by VM. Look it up and educate yourself.


>
>
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gnn4i1.c0nnnni3> wrote in message
> news:6sq4q5$e52$t@unsightly-ditch-slut.org.pakistan...
>> "Peter" <xx@yy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I have a program called Backitup2zip v125 which as the name
>>>> implies backs up files to an external drive. You can select which
>>>> folders to back up as frequently as every 20 mins. It runs
>>>> unobtrusively in the background just copying changed files and
>>>> worked fine under XP. The actual backup function still works fine
>>>> once loaded BUT although the program name is in the Startup group
>>>> it does not load at Startup. I've set it for XP compatibility
>>>> mode and selected "Run as Administrator". No error messages
>>>> appear but I note than when I start it manually the UAC control
>>>> asks for permission to continue. Be grateful for any ideas of
>>>> alternative program suggestions. By the way one important point
>>>> is it's freeware!
>>
>>> FUCKING BUM PLUMBER! CROTCH COWBOY! One thing to BITCH-QUEEN! CLAM
>>> DIGGER! FUCKING ARSE BENDER! look into is ARSE OVER TIT! FUCKING BUM
>>> PLUMBER! that it may SIGHTLESS CHOCOLATE-HIGHWAY! POTBELLIED CUM
>>> DUMPSTER! SHRILL-GORGED MEAT NAPKIN! need to write FLATHEAD! DECAYING
>>> TRAMP! INSENTIENT DERELICT! FUCKING PUSSY-FUCKER! SUCK MY DICK! to
>>> its own FUCKING BLACK JOKE! FUCKING PANIC-STRICKEN ARSE FUCK! Program
>>> Files folder. GUTTER SLUT! FUCKING ANAL INTRUDER! Right click on
>>> SHIT-FACE! the folder name FUCKING GORMLESS COMMERCIAL SEX WORKER!
>>> (such as C:/Program FUCKING FLOOSIE! FUCKING JEW! Files\backitup2zip,
>>> or similar) FUCKING ASS-WIPE! in Windows Explorer, SWINISH GAME OF
>>> HIDE THE SAUSAGE! click Properties, go FUCKING LESBIAN! FUCKING
>>> WANKER! FUCKING TWINK! to Security tab, DIZZY-EYED DOLPHIN FLOGGING!
>>> ARSE GAS! click Edit, highlight FUCKING BUTT BREATH! BLACK-ASS!
>>> Users, click the DUDES! check box Modify SQUEALING WOOFERS!
>>> NICKEL-AND-DIME BUTTOCK BALLING! FUCKING NO-CHINNED COCKPIT! under
>>> Allow.
>


--
Alias
 
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Joel

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

"Peter" <xx@yy.com> wrote:

>VM support could you please delete the filth someone has posted in this
>thread
>
>Thanks


It's nothing to worry about. You asked a good question, I gave a
suggestion, and someone got jealous that we're normal humans, unlike
him/her. We'll be OK. :)

--
Joel Crump
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/18/10, Joel posted:
> "Peter" <xx@yy.com> wrote:

>> VM support could you please delete the filth someone has posted in this
>> thread
>>
>> Thanks


> It's nothing to worry about. You asked a good question, I gave a
> suggestion, and someone got jealous that we're normal humans, unlike
> him/her. We'll be OK. :)

In fact, I copied your suggestion and saved it...

A quick look at the headers shows that the other poster is not the same
person as the real Joel.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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Joel

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>In fact, I copied your suggestion and saved it...


Cool, I hope it comes in handy for you and/or someone.

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Joel Crump
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/18/10, Joel posted:
> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>> In fact, I copied your suggestion and saved it...


> Cool, I hope it comes in handy for you and/or someone.

I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.

Happy camper am I.

Again, thanks.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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Joel

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>
>Happy camper am I.
>
>Again, thanks.


Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
protection is C:/Windows. ;)

--
Joel Crump
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/21/10, Joel posted:
> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>> I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>>
>> Happy camper am I.
>>
>> Again, thanks.


> Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
> protection is C:/Windows. ;)

Meanwhile, the annoying program is annoying again :)

It is 40Tude Dialog. I can make it stop asking by telling it not to run
in Win XP SP2 compatibility mode, but then it fails to run properly.

For a very experienced programmer, I still manage to get very confused
by the permissions dialogs in Win Vista and Win 7...

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:49:10 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> On 1/21/10, Joel posted:
>> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>>>
>>> Happy camper am I.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks.
>
>
>> Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
>> protection is C:/Windows. ;)
>
> Meanwhile, the annoying program is annoying again :)
>
> It is 40Tude Dialog. I can make it stop asking by telling it not to run
> in Win XP SP2 compatibility mode, but then it fails to run properly.
>
> For a very experienced programmer, I still manage to get very confused
> by the permissions dialogs in Win Vista and Win 7...

Hey Gene,
I downloaded the beta 38 of 40tude Dialog and installed it.
I'm running Win7 64. It installed Ok but wouldn't store my
Giganews login details. I tried various compatibility modes,
running as Administrator etc. but nothing helped.
I uninstalled it and then re-installed but installed to
'C:/Users\Myname'.
It seems to run OK now (check my headers) without any UAC nags
and no need for any compatibility settings.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/23/10, Dave-UK posted:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:49:10 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

>> On 1/21/10, Joel posted:
>>> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>>>>
>>>> Happy camper am I.
>>>>
>>>> Again, thanks.
>>
>>
>>> Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
>>> protection is C:/Windows. ;)
>>
>> Meanwhile, the annoying program is annoying again :)
>>
>> It is 40Tude Dialog. I can make it stop asking by telling it not to run
>> in Win XP SP2 compatibility mode, but then it fails to run properly.
>>
>> For a very experienced programmer, I still manage to get very confused
>> by the permissions dialogs in Win Vista and Win 7...

> Hey Gene,
> I downloaded the beta 38 of 40tude Dialog and installed it.
> I'm running Win7 64. It installed Ok but wouldn't store my
> Giganews login details. I tried various compatibility modes,
> running as Administrator etc. but nothing helped.
> I uninstalled it and then re-installed but installed to
> 'C:/Users\Myname'.
> It seems to run OK now (check my headers) without any UAC nags
> and no need for any compatibility settings.

I also have beta 38 (2.01.15.84), and it runs OK except for the UAC
nag. I'm mostly using MesNews, but once in a while I use one or more of
my other newsreaders if I see an anomaly in MesNews, to see if it's in
the program or in the newsgroup (it's usually in the newsgroup).

The UAC thing is no big deal, of course, although the inability to save
certain files can be annoying. The main reason I haven't moved Dialog
out of Program Files (x86) is because I don't really use it.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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Joel

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>The UAC thing is no big deal, of course, although the inability to save
>certain files can be annoying.


Where are you trying to save the files?

--
Joel Crump
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/26/10, Joel posted:
> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

>> The UAC thing is no big deal, of course, although the inability to save
>> certain files can be annoying.


> Where are you trying to save the files?

I'm not, the program is, apparently in Program Files (x86).

I am also about to reply to an unedited version of my post with another
remark.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/25/10, Gene E. Bloch posted:
> On 1/23/10, Dave-UK posted:
>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:49:10 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

>>> On 1/21/10, Joel posted:
>>>> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy camper am I.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
>>>> protection is C:/Windows. ;)
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the annoying program is annoying again :)
>>>
>>> It is 40Tude Dialog. I can make it stop asking by telling it not to run in
>>> Win XP SP2 compatibility mode, but then it fails to run properly.
>>>
>>> For a very experienced programmer, I still manage to get very confused by
>>> the permissions dialogs in Win Vista and Win 7...

>> Hey Gene,
>> I downloaded the beta 38 of 40tude Dialog and installed it.
>> I'm running Win7 64. It installed Ok but wouldn't store my
>> Giganews login details. I tried various compatibility modes,
>> running as Administrator etc. but nothing helped.
>> I uninstalled it and then re-installed but installed to
>> 'C:/Users\Myname'. It seems to run OK now (check my headers) without any
>> UAC nags
>> and no need for any compatibility settings.

> I also have beta 38 (2.01.15.84), and it runs OK except for the UAC nag. I'm
> mostly using MesNews, but once in a while I use one or more of my other
> newsreaders if I see an anomaly in MesNews, to see if it's in the program or
> in the newsgroup (it's usually in the newsgroup).

> The UAC thing is no big deal, of course, although the inability to save
> certain files can be annoying. The main reason I haven't moved Dialog out of
> Program Files (x86) is because I don't really use it.

Later yesterday I got energetic and moved Dialog into my version of
'C:/Users\Myname', C:/Rogue Programs. I no longer get the UAC nag
screen, but I haven't done any configuration changes that make it want
to save files, such as subscribe or unsubscribe a newsgroup, so I have
no idea what that will do.

If I have any problems I might try putting it in my user directory to
see if that helps.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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Seth

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

"Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:hjo6o6$2qg$1@news.albasani.net...
> On 1/25/10, Gene E. Bloch posted:
>> On 1/23/10, Dave-UK posted:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:49:10 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>
>>>> On 1/21/10, Joel posted:
>>>>> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy camper am I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
>>>>> protection is C:/Windows. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, the annoying program is annoying again :)
>>>>
>>>> It is 40Tude Dialog. I can make it stop asking by telling it not to run
>>>> in Win XP SP2 compatibility mode, but then it fails to run properly.
>>>>
>>>> For a very experienced programmer, I still manage to get very confused
>>>> by the permissions dialogs in Win Vista and Win 7...
>
>>> Hey Gene,
>>> I downloaded the beta 38 of 40tude Dialog and installed it.
>>> I'm running Win7 64. It installed Ok but wouldn't store my
>>> Giganews login details. I tried various compatibility modes,
>>> running as Administrator etc. but nothing helped.
>>> I uninstalled it and then re-installed but installed to
>>> 'C:/Users\Myname'. It seems to run OK now (check my headers) without any
>>> UAC nags
>>> and no need for any compatibility settings.
>
>> I also have beta 38 (2.01.15.84), and it runs OK except for the UAC nag.
>> I'm mostly using MesNews, but once in a while I use one or more of my
>> other newsreaders if I see an anomaly in MesNews, to see if it's in the
>> program or in the newsgroup (it's usually in the newsgroup).
>
>> The UAC thing is no big deal, of course, although the inability to save
>> certain files can be annoying. The main reason I haven't moved Dialog out
>> of Program Files (x86) is because I don't really use it.
>
> Later yesterday I got energetic and moved Dialog into my version of
> 'C:/Users\Myname', C:/Rogue Programs. I no longer get the UAC nag screen,
> but I haven't done any configuration changes that make it want to save
> files, such as subscribe or unsubscribe a newsgroup, so I have no idea
> what that will do.
>
> If I have any problems I might try putting it in my user directory to see
> if that helps.


Hmmm. Shouldn't have to go the route of placing the program in a "non
standard" location. It should run fine form the \Program Files (or \Program
Files (x86)) folder.

If the application attempts to write to that tree structure without
permissions (as should happen as it should be getting executed as Standard
User) File Virtualization should be kicking in.

EXAMPLE:
If the app is installed in C:/Program Files\App1 then read/write files will
transparently be redirected to...
C:/Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\App1

To the OP...Can you check if a path like that exists in your user profile?
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
Re: Program will not launch at Start - Att VM Support

On 1/26/10, Seth posted:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hjo6o6$2qg$1@news.albasani.net...
>> On 1/25/10, Gene E. Bloch posted:
>>> On 1/23/10, Dave-UK posted:
>>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:49:10 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 1/21/10, Joel posted:
>>>>>> Gene E. Bloch <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> I already tested it and got it to silence one annoying program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy camper am I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't tell anyone, but the only folder on my system that has any such
>>>>>> protection is C:/Windows. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, the annoying program is annoying again :)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is 40Tude Dialog. I can make it stop asking by telling it not to run
>>>>> in Win XP SP2 compatibility mode, but then it fails to run properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a very experienced programmer, I still manage to get very confused
>>>>> by the permissions dialogs in Win Vista and Win 7...
>>
>>>> Hey Gene,
>>>> I downloaded the beta 38 of 40tude Dialog and installed it.
>>>> I'm running Win7 64. It installed Ok but wouldn't store my
>>>> Giganews login details. I tried various compatibility modes,
>>>> running as Administrator etc. but nothing helped.
>>>> I uninstalled it and then re-installed but installed to
>>>> 'C:/Users\Myname'. It seems to run OK now (check my headers) without any
>>>> UAC nags
>>>> and no need for any compatibility settings.
>>
>>> I also have beta 38 (2.01.15.84), and it runs OK except for the UAC nag.
>>> I'm mostly using MesNews, but once in a while I use one or more of my
>>> other newsreaders if I see an anomaly in MesNews, to see if it's in the
>>> program or in the newsgroup (it's usually in the newsgroup).
>>
>>> The UAC thing is no big deal, of course, although the inability to save
>>> certain files can be annoying. The main reason I haven't moved Dialog out
>>> of Program Files (x86) is because I don't really use it.
>>
>> Later yesterday I got energetic and moved Dialog into my version of
>> 'C:/Users\Myname', C:/Rogue Programs. I no longer get the UAC nag screen,
>> but I haven't done any configuration changes that make it want to save
>> files, such as subscribe or unsubscribe a newsgroup, so I have no idea what
>> that will do.
>>
>> If I have any problems I might try putting it in my user directory to see
>> if that helps.


> Hmmm. Shouldn't have to go the route of placing the program in a "non
> standard" location. It should run fine form the \Program Files (or \Program
> Files (x86)) folder.

> If the application attempts to write to that tree structure without
> permissions (as should happen as it should be getting executed as Standard
> User) File Virtualization should be kicking in.

> EXAMPLE:
> If the app is installed in C:/Program Files\App1 then read/write files will
> transparently be redirected to...
> C:/Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\App1

> To the OP...Can you check if a path like that exists in your user profile?

Using a nonstandard location was not my idea. Perhaps the original
source (whoever that might have been) was using a workaround for a
problem solvable by other means. Anyway, I haven't yet tried making it
store data, and I have forgotten how to trigger it.

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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