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per-user initialisation

R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the
internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the
previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation
of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown
in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts
only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade.

Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started
manually?

We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no
desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications,
and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation
has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly
in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the
application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will
not be able to navigate the help.

I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to
initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon
to a desktop is done.
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Flightless Bird
"Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhmt2mh.lpc.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...
> Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the
> internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the
> previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation
> of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown
> in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts
> only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade.
>
> Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started
> manually?
>
> We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no
> desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications,
> and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation
> has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly
> in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the
> application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will
> not be able to navigate the help.
>
> I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to
> initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon
> to a desktop is done.



If this is reproducible I would run ProcMon to capture it.
However, there are various reasons that compiled help won't render, so I
would wonder if you already have a program activated somehow which is used
to fix those. E.g. perhaps you have an IEAK procedure which does this?
Etc.
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Robert Aldwinckle <robald@techemail.com> wrote:
> "Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhmt2mh.lpc.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>> Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the
>> internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the
>> previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation
>> of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown
>> in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts
>> only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade.
>>
>> Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started
>> manually?
>>
>> We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no
>> desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications,
>> and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation
>> has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly
>> in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the
>> application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will
>> not be able to navigate the help.
>>
>> I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to
>> initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon
>> to a desktop is done.

>
>
> If this is reproducible I would run ProcMon to capture it.
> However, there are various reasons that compiled help won't render, so I
> would wonder if you already have a program activated somehow which is used
> to fix those. E.g. perhaps you have an IEAK procedure which does this?
> Etc.


Situation is like this:
Citrix server with Published Applications
Roaming profiles
User starts Published Application
Compiled HTML help does not work
User exits application, starts a Published Desktop
(small window shows that Internet Explorer initialisation is being done)
No other activity done on Published Desktop, not even starting IE.
User logs off Published Desktop
User starts Published Application
Compiled HTML help now works

Apparently the initialisation done when logging in on a Published
Desktop somehow fixes the internet explorer so that help works.
The settings are saved in the user's profile.

What I like to know is how I can run some program from a logon
script (after testing for some registry key) that will run the same
initialisation as a logon to a Published Desktop is doing.
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
> Situation is like this:
> Citrix server with Published Applications
> Roaming profiles
> User starts Published Application
> Compiled HTML help does not work
> User exits application, starts a Published Desktop
> (small window shows that Internet Explorer initialisation is being done)
> No other activity done on Published Desktop, not even starting IE.
> User logs off Published Desktop
> User starts Published Application
> Compiled HTML help now works
>
> Apparently the initialisation done when logging in on a Published
> Desktop somehow fixes the internet explorer so that help works.
> The settings are saved in the user's profile.
>
> What I like to know is how I can run some program from a logon
> script (after testing for some registry key) that will run the same
> initialisation as a logon to a Published Desktop is doing.


Nobody knows how to fix the above problem or knows an answer to the
question?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Perhaps everyone's waiting for you to disclose the IE version and full
Windows version(s) of the computer(s) in question?

Rob wrote:
> Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
>> Situation is like this:
>> Citrix server with Published Applications
>> Roaming profiles
>> User starts Published Application
>> Compiled HTML help does not work
>> User exits application, starts a Published Desktop
>> (small window shows that Internet Explorer initialisation is being done)
>> No other activity done on Published Desktop, not even starting IE.
>> User logs off Published Desktop
>> User starts Published Application
>> Compiled HTML help now works
>>
>> Apparently the initialisation done when logging in on a Published
>> Desktop somehow fixes the internet explorer so that help works.
>> The settings are saved in the user's profile.
>>
>> What I like to know is how I can run some program from a logon
>> script (after testing for some registry key) that will run the same
>> initialisation as a logon to a Published Desktop is doing.

>
> Nobody knows how to fix the above problem or knows an answer to the
> question?
 
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
PA Bear [MS MVP] <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps everyone's waiting for you to disclose the IE version and full
> Windows version(s) of the computer(s) in question?


Windows version is 2003 enterprise edition.

IE version does not seem to make a difference. Currently is IE8.

However, this initialisation program was already used with IE6 and
maybe even earlier.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-ie8-tour-welcome-screen-runonce-all-users/

Rob wrote:
> PA Bear [MS MVP] <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps everyone's waiting for you to disclose the IE version and full
>> Windows version(s) of the computer(s) in question?

>
> Windows version is 2003 enterprise edition.
>
> IE version does not seem to make a difference. Currently is IE8.
>
> However, this initialisation program was already used with IE6 and
> maybe even earlier.
 
P

Patrick Palczewski

Flightless Bird
R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Patrick Palczewski <psychiatrist@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhne5oa.o0a.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-ie8-tour-welcome-screen-runonce-all-users/

>>
>> This is not what I mean...
>> Those welcome screens were already disabled using group policy, but that
>> does not make any difference.

>
> Have you contacted Citrix on help with the script? I'm sure they can help
> you.


The system has been installed by consultants and they have not been able
to solve this problem. That is why I now take it up myself.

It amazes me how hard it is to find an initialisation program that is
running on every Windows sytem for years.

Everyone logging in to a Windows system on a fresh account or after
updating Internet Explorer sees this program running. But how is it
started??? Is this hardcoded in Explorer.exe? Is this some registry
entry? (I cannot find it in RUN, RUNONCE etc)
That is a question that must have an answer independent of Terminal
Server or Citrix.
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Flightless Bird
"Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhnv8n9.om7.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...
> Patrick Palczewski <psychiatrist@hotmail.com> wrote:


> It amazes me how hard it is to find an initialisation program that is
> running on every Windows sytem for years.
>
> Everyone logging in to a Windows system on a fresh account or after
> updating Internet Explorer sees this program running. But how is it
> started??? Is this hardcoded in Explorer.exe? Is this some registry
> entry? (I cannot find it in RUN, RUNONCE etc)
> That is a question that must have an answer independent of Terminal
> Server or Citrix.



Have you tried capturing a repro case with ProcMon yet? ; }


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R

Rob

Flightless Bird
Robert Aldwinckle <robald@techemail.com> wrote:
> "Rob" <nomail@example.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhnv8n9.om7.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>> Patrick Palczewski <psychiatrist@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> It amazes me how hard it is to find an initialisation program that is
>> running on every Windows sytem for years.
>>
>> Everyone logging in to a Windows system on a fresh account or after
>> updating Internet Explorer sees this program running. But how is it
>> started??? Is this hardcoded in Explorer.exe? Is this some registry
>> entry? (I cannot find it in RUN, RUNONCE etc)
>> That is a question that must have an answer independent of Terminal
>> Server or Citrix.

>
>
> Have you tried capturing a repro case with ProcMon yet? ; }


I have used it to trace programs I start myself, but I would not know
how to invoke it on the login/initialisation process. Maybe you have
a hint?
 
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