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Flightless Bird
Do you think Twayne will still be around?
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Unknown wrote:
>> Will registry cleaners be extinct then?
>>

>
>
> Not as long as there are suckers to fall for the bogus claims of the
> unscrupulous hucksters who peddle them.
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Flightless Bird
> No, it doesn't! When you uninstall a program an uninstall string is
> launched by the uninstaller and a specific uninstall routine is
> launched, often times the application has an install/uninstall log and
> the installer will execute uninstall routines based on these logs or
> based on other such files provided by the application vendor. In
> addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
> removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
> this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
> will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
> created when the program was installed. Registry cleaners do nothing of
> the such, but then none of us here would expect you to know any better,
> you wear blinders and your ignorance in these matters is clearly evident.
>


What you said is "theoretically" true, but in reality, too many poor
programs/applications from well-known or otherwise providers have done a
terrible job on both installation and un-installation routines.

I have been reading this interesting (and ridiculous) argument for some
time and since this newsgroup is closing down, so decided to join for
one last time.

First of all, a registry cleaner should be seen as an "advanced" tool
and shouldn't be used by any person without sufficient computer knowledge.

Secondly, like a solider indiscriminately firing a 50 caliber machine
gun in fully automatic mode, the total causalities of friendly fire must
be devastating, and that's the result of a person without sufficient
computer knowledge trying to use a registry cleaner to "automatically"
solve the problem.

Would people like you think that it's a problem of the machine gun or
the (untrained) person who pulled the trigger?

I don't use any registry cleaner to fix any registry problems, but I do
think the argument of saying all registry cleaner is a snake oil is
unfounded.

Finally, inconsistent registry entries could cause many problems, such
as incorrect program icons, wrong default programs, missing dlls, etc.,
but none of them is associated with *improving performance*, which
shouldn't be the reason for using a registry cleaner in the first place.



On 5/31/2010 10:47 PM, John John - MVP wrote:
> Twayne wrote:
>> In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>> milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
>>> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>>>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>>>> that have sold millions of product to many, including
>>>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
>>> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
>>> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
>>> programs.

>>
>> Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER
>> charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.
>>
>> Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
>>> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system

>>
>> Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
>> haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.
>>
>>> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.

>>
>> Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with
>> any other software.
>>
>>> Then of course people like you go on and on about how
>>> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
>>> bad so what happens?

>>
>> Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently
>> do NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to
>> create lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>>> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
>>> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
>>> registry to begin with!

>>
>> lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does
>> EXACTLY what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?

>
> No, it doesn't! When you uninstall a program an uninstall string is
> launched by the uninstaller and a specific uninstall routine is
> launched, often times the application has an install/uninstall log and
> the installer will execute uninstall routines based on these logs or
> based on other such files provided by the application vendor. In
> addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
> removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
> this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
> will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
> created when the program was installed. Registry cleaners do nothing of
> the such, but then none of us here would expect you to know any better,
> you wear blinders and your ignorance in these matters is clearly evident.
>
> John
 
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