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PC TuneUp and CCleaner

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Re: OT: Re: PC TuneUp and CCleaner

Doum wrote:
<snip>
> Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner. After making an
> image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it found a lot of
> stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it
> suggested.
>
> AFAICT, there's nothing broken but I don't see any performance
> improvement so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the future
> but I will check out CC other features.


Hopefully you paid attention to CCleaner's prompt to back-up the changes you
were about to make and did so.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
 
B

Billns

Flightless Bird
On 5/24/2010 11:18 AM, Unknown wrote:
> I wouldn't bother with either one. I use WSE (Windows Security Essentials)
> "Sanford Aranoff"<aranoff@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote in message
> news:4BFAB9F1.9CB55E39@analysis-knowledge.com...
>> What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?

>
>

Microsoft Security Essentials and these two programs have different
purposes. I haven't used PC Tuneup and use CCleaner very sparingly so I
can't really comment on the merits of either. I use MSE rather than
Norton or McAfee and am well satisfied with MSE.

Bill
 
D

Doum

Flightless Bird
Re: OT: Re: PC TuneUp and CCleaner

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> écrivait
news:euQS$yO$KHA.1700@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Doum wrote:
> <snip>
>> Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner. After making
>> an image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it found a
>> lot of stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs, etc. I let it do
>> what it suggested.
>>
>> AFAICT, there's nothing broken but I don't see any performance
>> improvement so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the
>> future but I will check out CC other features.

>
> Hopefully you paid attention to CCleaner's prompt to back-up the
> changes you were about to make and did so.


yes
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Excuse my goof. I meant Microsoft Security Essentials ---not Windows
Security Essentials.
He-- getting old but, the alternative is most unpleasant..
"Billns" <billns@nsverizon.net> wrote in message
news:-OcXoi6O$KHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> On 5/24/2010 11:18 AM, Unknown wrote:
>> I wouldn't bother with either one. I use WSE (Windows Security
>> Essentials)
>> "Sanford Aranoff"<aranoff@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote in message
>> news:4BFAB9F1.9CB55E39@analysis-knowledge.com...
>>> What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for free?

>>
>>

> Microsoft Security Essentials and these two programs have different
> purposes. I haven't used PC Tuneup and use CCleaner very sparingly so I
> can't really comment on the merits of either. I use MSE rather than Norton
> or McAfee and am well satisfied with MSE.
>
> Bill
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
Re: OT: Re: PC TuneUp and CCleaner

On Wed, 26 May 2010 08:40:07 -0700, Doum <me@domain.net> wrote:

>> Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner. After making an

> image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it found a lot of
> stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it
> suggested.
>
> AFAICT, there's nothing broken



Good. Then you were lucky. None of us has ever claimed that using a
registry cleaner causes a problem every time. Rather, there's a *risk*
in using it, and there's no reason to take the risk since ...


> but I don't see any performance improvement



.... there's no corresponding benefit, and the gamble is therefore a
poor one.


> so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the future



Good. That's the wise thing to do.


> but I will check out CC other features.



Also good. Almost everything else it does, it does well.



--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
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Twayne

Flightless Bird
Re: OT: Re: PC TuneUp and CCleaner

In news:qn6rv5l3uddov1fcvhhvgc64edp173u9r2@4ax.com,
Ken Blake, MVP <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> typed:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 08:40:07 -0700, Doum <me@domain.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner.
>>> After making an

>> image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it
>> found a lot of stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs,
>> etc. I let it do what it suggested.
>>
>> AFAICT, there's nothing broken

>
>
> Good. Then you were lucky. None of us has ever claimed that
> using a registry cleaner causes a problem every time.
> Rather, there's a *risk* in using it, and there's no reason
> to take the risk since ...


Balderdash; exactly what would be expected.

>
>
>> but I don't see any performance improvement

>
>
> ... there's no corresponding benefit, and the gamble is
> therefore a poor one.


BS - and you know it.

>
>
>> so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the future

>
>
> Good. That's the wise thing to do.
>
>
>> but I will check out CC other features.

>
>
> Also good. Almost everything else it does, it does well.


Everything it does it does well, dunderhead.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
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Twayne

Flightless Bird
Re: OT: Re: PC TuneUp and CCleaner

In news:XnF9D8476BB346AAdoumdomainnet@207.46.248.16,
Doum <me@domain.net> typed:
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> icrivait
> news:#DjO6D6#KHA.148@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>
>> In news:%23FBs343%23KHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] <PABearMVP@gmail.com> typed:
>>> [Here we go again...]

>>
>> Yes, here we go again: The closed minded idiots and closed
>> minded dummies who insist they are right in the face of
>> millions of satisfied users and mountains of evidence of
>> the success of such things. That site he references?
>> Wrtten by one of "his" gang of cohorts amongst their silly
>> little group here who want to libel the companies that
>> make such products. He and his cohorts will lie and
>> misinform to the very end even though most any service
>> shop makes good use of such tools and understands the
>> realities of "today". The most interesting thing about
>> these boobs is when you challenge them
>> to show some proof of their allegations, they point to the
>> below useless site or one other that exists which is the
>> same thing, and call that proof. They cannot even come
>> close to describing the mechanism of their claims as any
>> professional or logical thinking person would be able to
>> do.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`
>> ...
>>
>> Boilerplate junk removed.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sanford Aranoff wrote:
>>>> What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for
>>>> free?

>>
>>
>>

>
> Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner.
> After making an image of my system drive, I ran CC registry
> cleaner, it found a lot of stuff, associated extensions,
> useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it suggested.
>
> AFAICT, there's nothing broken but I don't see any
> performance improvement so I think I'm gonna leave the
> registry alone in the future but I will check out CC other
> features.


Sounds about right; that's what most people get. As a general rule, registry
cleaners do not increase the speed of anything in any noticeable way at
least.
It can come in pretty handy when you get a problem that keep eluding you
as either a "find" for the problem or at least an exclusion of the registry
as being the cause of it. Most sources of computer slowdowns are from
sources other than the registry.
--
Regards,

Tom1
 
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milt

Flightless Bird
On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group of closed minds
> who wish to malign and libel the companies that have sold millions of
> product to many, including those who repair computers and make good use of
> same.
>
>


Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this garbage are only
doing so in the hopes it trashes the system so they can go in and fix
the damage caused by these programs. Yes, sometimes they work, and yes,
they don't cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system and
when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD. Then of course
people like you go on and on about how wonderful these programs are and
how they NEVER do anything bad so what happens?

People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should be blaming
the snake oil product that screwed up their registry to begin with!
 
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Bill in Co.

Flightless Bird
How did you find out what city I'm in? (just curious :)

Unknown wrote:
> Last couple of days, right at 90 degrees but will cool down this weekend..
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23wVhFwF$KHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It's a bit warm (but at least it's a dry heat) here. How about over
>> where
>> you are?
>> I don't think it's reached 90 or 100 today, which is nice.
>>
>> Unknown wrote:
>>> BTW-----How's the weather in Pueblo?
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:-OonQp9C$KHA.5168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> The term for this behavior is "projection": one projects onto others
>>>> what one denies lies within oneself.
>>>>
>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>> Please provide us the source of the data that proves millions of sold
>>>>> products.
>>>>> You keep speaking of closed minds. Everyone who disagrees with you has
>>>>> a closed mind?
>>>>> I suggest you study your ego.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23ZJhfT6%23KHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group of closed
>>>>>> minds
>>>>>> who wish to malign and libel the companies that have sold millions of
>>>>>> product to many, including those who repair computers and make good
>>>>>> use of same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
I highlight your post then click 'file' (in Outlook Express). Click
properties then details.
The details of your post indicates the posting host was 67.190.90.13.
Then I use http://en.utrace.de/ to tell me where the posting host is.
Try it but don't tell anyone about it. LOL.
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e5s1PWDALHA.5848@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> How did you find out what city I'm in? (just curious :)
>
> Unknown wrote:
>> Last couple of days, right at 90 degrees but will cool down this
>> weekend..
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23wVhFwF$KHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> It's a bit warm (but at least it's a dry heat) here. How about over
>>> where
>>> you are?
>>> I don't think it's reached 90 or 100 today, which is nice.
>>>
>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>> BTW-----How's the weather in Pueblo?
>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:-OonQp9C$KHA.5168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The term for this behavior is "projection": one projects onto others
>>>>> what one denies lies within oneself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unknown wrote:
>>>>>> Please provide us the source of the data that proves millions of sold
>>>>>> products.
>>>>>> You keep speaking of closed minds. Everyone who disagrees with you
>>>>>> has a closed mind?
>>>>>> I suggest you study your ego.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23ZJhfT6%23KHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group of closed
>>>>>>> minds
>>>>>>> who wish to malign and libel the companies that have sold millions
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> product to many, including those who repair computers and make good
>>>>>>> use of same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

>
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>> that have sold millions of product to many, including
>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>
>>

>
> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
> programs.


Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER charge
a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.

Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system


Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.

> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.


Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
other software.

> Then of course people like you go on and on about how
> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
> bad so what happens?


Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create lies
and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>
> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
> registry to begin with!


lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Twayne wrote:
> In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
>> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>>> that have sold millions of product to many, including
>>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>>
>>>

>> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
>> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
>> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
>> programs.

>
> Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER charge
> a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.
>
> Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
>> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system

>
> Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
> haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.
>
>> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.

>
> Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
> other software.
>
>> Then of course people like you go on and on about how
>> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
>> bad so what happens?

>
> Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
> NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create lies
> and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
>> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
>> registry to begin with!

>
> lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
> what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?


No, it doesn't! When you uninstall a program an uninstall string is
launched by the uninstaller and a specific uninstall routine is
launched, often times the application has an install/uninstall log and
the installer will execute uninstall routines based on these logs or
based on other such files provided by the application vendor. In
addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
created when the program was installed. Registry cleaners do nothing of
the such, but then none of us here would expect you to know any better,
you wear blinders and your ignorance in these matters is clearly evident.

John
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:e$1h60MALHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
>> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>>> that have sold millions of product to many, including
>>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
>> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
>> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
>> programs.

>
> Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER
> charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.
>
> Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
>> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system

>
> Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
> haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.
>
>> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.

>
> Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
> other software.
>
>> Then of course people like you go on and on about how
>> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
>> bad so what happens?

>
> Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
> NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create
> lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>>
>> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
>> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
>> registry to begin with!

>
> lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
> what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?


A cleaner does the same as uninstalling a program is the most incorrect, bad
information you
have ever posted on these newsgroups other than the usefulness of registry
cleaners.
.. When are you going to quit making an idiot of yourself?
 
D

Doum

Flightless Bird
John John - MVP <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> écrivait
news:#gekwANALHA.3176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
<snip>

> In
> addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
> removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
> this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
> will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
> created when the program was installed.
>


<snip>

> John
>


Question here, what if a dll is shared by other applications and an
uninstall procedure removes it, won't it screw up the other applications
that were using it?
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Doum wrote:
> John John - MVP <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> écrivait
> news:#gekwANALHA.3176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
> <snip>
>
>> In
>> addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
>> removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
>> this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
>> will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
>> created when the program was installed.
>>

>
> <snip>
>
>> John
>>

>
> Question here, what if a dll is shared by other applications and an
> uninstall procedure removes it, won't it screw up the other applications
> that were using it?


It will almost always ask for delete confirmation if it thinks that the
file is shared, if you are unsure you can keep the file.

John
 
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Bill in Co.

Flightless Bird
Unknown wrote:
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:e$1h60MALHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>> milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
>>> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>>>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>>>> that have sold millions of product to many, including
>>>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
>>> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
>>> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
>>> programs.

>>
>> Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER
>> charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.
>>
>> Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
>>> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system

>>
>> Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
>> haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.
>>
>>> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.

>>
>> Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
>> other software.
>>
>>> Then of course people like you go on and on about how
>>> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
>>> bad so what happens?

>>
>> Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
>> NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create
>> lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>>>
>>> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
>>> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
>>> registry to begin with!

>>
>> lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
>> what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?

>
> A cleaner does the same as uninstalling a program is the most incorrect,
> bad
> information you
> have ever posted on these newsgroups other than the usefulness of registry
> cleaners.
> . When are you going to quit making an idiot of yourself?


2050?
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:esMqsvMALHA.5536@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:
> I highlight your post then click 'file' (in Outlook
> Express). Click properties then details.
> The details of your post indicates the posting host was
> 67.190.90.13. Then I use http://en.utrace.de/ to tell me
> where the posting host is. Try it but don't tell anyone
> about it. LOL. "Bill in Co."
> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e5s1PWDALHA.5848@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> How did you find out what city I'm in? (just curious :)


Not very accurate; careful of depending on it too much. It shows me in
Syracuse, too but in reality I am 120 miles north and a bit east of
Syracuse. You forget, that's the scope for the IP, not where the person
using the IP is. Tracert wll get you the same thing as will many other
programs. Tracking stops where the IP is living, not where the computer the
IP was assigned to is located.
And, IPs change periodically scheduled or otherwise with every time the
modem is reset/restarted/rebooted. There is no way of telling whether the
user you "located" was even assigned that IP at the time you looked; it
could have been someone else entirely. In 24 hours the IP will almost
certainly have changed and earlier if the user restarted/rebooted or used
ipconfig or depending on where it was in its 24 hr cycle.
Knowing the city does no good at all unless the person admits/volunteers
their own location in that city.
Anyone with Verizon in the whole northeast US could show as being located
in Syracuse - or Ottawa - or Rochester/Buffalo - or Toronto - or cities in
PA, CT, etc. etc. etc..

HTH,

Twayne`

>> Unknown wrote:
>>> Last couple of days, right at 90 degrees but will cool
>>> down this weekend..
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> message news:%23wVhFwF$KHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> It's a bit warm (but at least it's a dry heat) here. How about over
>>>> where
>>>> you are?
>>>> I don't think it's reached 90 or 100 today, which is
>>>> nice. Unknown wrote:
>>>>> BTW-----How's the weather in Pueblo?
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>>>> message news:-OonQp9C$KHA.5168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The term for this behavior is "projection": one
>>>>>> projects onto others what one denies lies within
>>>>>> oneself. Unknown wrote:
>>>>>>> Please provide us the source of the data that proves
>>>>>>> millions of sold products.
>>>>>>> You keep speaking of closed minds. Everyone who
>>>>>>> disagrees with you has a closed mind?
>>>>>>> I suggest you study your ego.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23ZJhfT6%23KHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small
>>>>>>>> group of closed minds
>>>>>>>> who wish to malign and libel the companies that have
>>>>>>>> sold millions of
>>>>>>>> product to many, including those who repair
>>>>>>>> computers and make good use of same.
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
Will registry cleaners be extinct then?
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eAB8CnQALHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Unknown wrote:
>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> news:e$1h60MALHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>>> milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
>>>> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>>>>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>>>>> that have sold millions of product to many, including
>>>>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
>>>> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
>>>> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
>>>> programs.
>>>
>>> Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER
>>> charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.
>>>
>>> Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
>>>> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system
>>>
>>> Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
>>> haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.
>>>
>>>> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.
>>>
>>> Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with
>>> any
>>> other software.
>>>
>>>> Then of course people like you go on and on about how
>>>> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
>>>> bad so what happens?
>>>
>>> Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently
>>> do
>>> NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create
>>> lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>>>>
>>>> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
>>>> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
>>>> registry to begin with!
>>>
>>> lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does
>>> EXACTLY
>>> what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?

>>
>> A cleaner does the same as uninstalling a program is the most incorrect,
>> bad
>> information you
>> have ever posted on these newsgroups other than the usefulness of
>> registry
>> cleaners.
>> . When are you going to quit making an idiot of yourself?

>
> 2050?
>
 
B

Bob I

Flightless Bird
As long as the marks keep appearing!

Unknown wrote:

> Will registry cleaners be extinct then?


> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eAB8CnQALHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>>Unknown wrote:
>>
>>>"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>news:e$1h60MALHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>>>>milt <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>>On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group
>>>>>>of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies
>>>>>>that have sold millions of product to many, including
>>>>>>those who repair computers and make good use of same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
>>>>>garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
>>>>>system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
>>>>>programs.
>>>>
>>>>Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER
>>>>charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't
>>>>
>>>>>cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system
>>>>
>>>>Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
>>>>haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.
>>>>
>>>>Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with
>>>>any
>>>>other software.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Then of course people like you go on and on about how
>>>>>wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
>>>>>bad so what happens?
>>>>
>>>>Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently
>>>>do
>>>>NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create
>>>>lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.
>>>>
>>>>>People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
>>>>>be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
>>>>>registry to begin with!
>>>>
>>>>lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does
>>>>EXACTLY
>>>>what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?
>>>
>>>A cleaner does the same as uninstalling a program is the most incorrect,
>>>bad
>>>information you
>>>have ever posted on these newsgroups other than the usefulness of
>>>registry
>>>cleaners.
>>>. When are you going to quit making an idiot of yourself?

>>
>>2050?
>>

>
>
>
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Flightless Bird
Unknown wrote:
> Will registry cleaners be extinct then?
>



Not as long as there are suckers to fall for the bogus claims of the
unscrupulous hucksters who peddle them.


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