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PC sleeps too soundly

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Herzl Regev

Flightless Bird
My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be done?
 
B

Bob I

Flightless Bird
Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they
are not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the
Power button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving
you want as that will determine the method used to wake it up.

Herzl Regev wrote:

> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be done?
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Do you mean standby? Hibernate is a power off condition.
"Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
> done?
 
3

3c273

Flightless Bird
On every machine I have, this is normal behavior for hibernate. Set it to
standby and disable hibernate if you don't like this feature.
Louis

"Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be

done?
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Jan 20, 10:30 am, Herzl Regev
<HerzlRe...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be done?


Here is something to read about the differences between Hibernate and
Stand By.

Set your system up the way that makes sense to you and then if it is
malfunctioning we can fix it.

http://www.timeatlas.com/term_to_le...ng_differences_between_hibernate_and_stand_by
 
M

M.I.5¾

Flightless Bird
"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
> not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
> button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
> as that will determine the method used to wake it up.
>


Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).

> Herzl Regev wrote:
>
>> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
>> left idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the
>> kbd or mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and
>> it necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
>> done?

>
 
M

M.I.5¾

Flightless Bird
"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:u5xbe5emKHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Do you mean standby? Hibernate is a power off condition.


from which it can be awakened by any stimulus that wakes from standby.

> "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
>> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
>> left
>> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
>> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
>> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
>> done?

>
>
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Jan 21, 5:43 am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> "Bob I" <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> > Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
> > not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
> > button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
> > as that will determine the method used to wake it up.

>
> Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
> awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).
>
>
>
> > Herzl Regev wrote:

>
> >> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
> >> left idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the
> >> kbd or mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and
> >> it necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
> >> done?


My computers (desktop and/or laptop), XP Pro SP3, will Hibernate and
Stand By just fine.

If in Standy By and properly configured, I can wake them from the
mouse, keyboard, NIC, Scheduled Task or some third party programs that
needs to update will wake it.

If in Hibernate, I can only wake it from the power button (I tried all
the Stand By wakey wakey methods). The only thing that works from
Hibernate is the power button.

It might be nice (or annoying) to have XP wake up from Hibernate from
those other methods, but I know mine does not.

Is my system malfunctioning?
 
A

Alister

Flightless Bird
M.I.5¾ wrote:
> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
>> not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
>> button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
>> as that will determine the method used to wake it up.
>>

>
> Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
> awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).
>

Not True, hibernate is a power off condition where the system state is
saved to the Hard drive prior to shutdown. There is no software running
to monitor keyboard or mouse inputs, as there is in standby. In
Hibernate, the monitor / screen, Hard drives and Processor are all
powered down.

A PC in true Hibernate can only be woken from the power button.

Alister
 
B

Bob I

Flightless Bird
M.I.5¾ wrote:

> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
>>not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
>>button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
>>as that will determine the method used to wake it up.
>>

>
>
> Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
> awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).
>


Pretty tough to do if the USB ports are dead.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off using a
mouse or keyboard?
"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4b582fe3$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:u5xbe5emKHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Do you mean standby? Hibernate is a power off condition.

>
> from which it can be awakened by any stimulus that wakes from standby.
>
>> "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
>>> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
>>> left
>>> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd
>>> or
>>> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
>>> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
>>> done?

>>
>>

>
>
 
A

Anna

Flightless Bird
"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off using
> a mouse or keyboard?



A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter of
fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
should he/she choose not to do so.
Anna
 
H

Herzl Regev

Flightless Bird
I rechecked and the machine is set to Stand By, not Hibernate. And its
behavior in respect to waking up varies, so it can't be doing exactly what it
is supposed to.
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Jan 21, 12:52 pm, Herzl Regev
<HerzlRe...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I rechecked and the machine is set to Stand By, not Hibernate. And its
> behavior in respect to waking up varies, so it can't be doing exactly what it
> is supposed to.


When in Stand By, in what way does the behavior in respect to waking
up vary and what is it supposed to do that it is not?

What does it do that you think it should not be doing?

What does it not do that you think it should?
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Wow! If that's true I learned something today. It cannot be a power off
condition then.
What is the BIOS setting?
"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:eYUYC6rmKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off
>> using a mouse or keyboard?

>
>
> A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
> power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter of
> fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
> GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
> should he/she choose not to do so.
> Anna
>
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Check your settings. Do you enter into Standby after X minutes and then
Hibernate in Y minutes?
"Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:254A9429-5CA2-4B02-BCB1-798313A73633@microsoft.com...
>I rechecked and the machine is set to Stand By, not Hibernate. And its
> behavior in respect to waking up varies, so it can't be doing exactly what
> it
> is supposed to.
 
3

3c273

Flightless Bird
"Alister" <alister.gcs@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> A PC in true Hibernate can only be woken from the power button.
>
> Alister


This is wrong. I've had this argument before. Scheduled tasks can set a PME
(power management event) in the RTC (real time clock) that will bring the
machine out of hibernate. This occurs when you check the box labeled "Wake
the computer to run this task" on the settings tab of the Task Scheduler.
Wake On LAN can also be used to bring a machine out of hibernation. I do
both of these things regularly. Your hardware must support these mechanisms
in order to wake the machine.

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_win_task
<quote>
Scheduled tasks use the real time clock (RTC) and power management events
(PMEs) provided by the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) to
wake the machine out of system standby or hibernate. On the settings tab of
a scheduled task, an option labeled "Wake the machine to run this task" will
set a PME inside the RTC for the time when the task is scheduled to run.
</quote>

I Can't find the WOL reference but I do it every day.

Louis
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
But not the keyboard or mouse.
"3c273" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alister" <alister.gcs@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23lrxbhpmKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> A PC in true Hibernate can only be woken from the power button.
>>
>> Alister

>
> This is wrong. I've had this argument before. Scheduled tasks can set a
> PME
> (power management event) in the RTC (real time clock) that will bring the
> machine out of hibernate. This occurs when you check the box labeled "Wake
> the computer to run this task" on the settings tab of the Task Scheduler.
> Wake On LAN can also be used to bring a machine out of hibernation. I do
> both of these things regularly. Your hardware must support these
> mechanisms
> in order to wake the machine.
>
> http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_win_task
> <quote>
> Scheduled tasks use the real time clock (RTC) and power management events
> (PMEs) provided by the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)
> to
> wake the machine out of system standby or hibernate. On the settings tab
> of
> a scheduled task, an option labeled "Wake the machine to run this task"
> will
> set a PME inside the RTC for the time when the task is scheduled to run.
> </quote>
>
> I Can't find the WOL reference but I do it every day.
>
> Louis
>
>
 
A

Anna

Flightless Bird

>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>> news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off
>>> using a mouse or keyboard?



> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
> news:eYUYC6rmKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
>> power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter of
>> fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
>> GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
>> should he/she choose not to do so.
>> Anna



"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:%23S6yqxsmKHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Wow! If that's true I learned something today. It cannot be a power off
> condition then.
> What is the BIOS setting?



In the Gigabyte MB BIOS that I'm presently using the settings are "Power On
By Keyboard" and "Power On By Mouse". Obviously the setting might have
different labels in other motherboards having that capability. And there
might be other options available within those settings, e.g., the user can
set (if desired) a password after the keystroke. Or the mouse-click can be
set to a single or double-click.
Anna
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Thanks! Something new each day.
"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:uJf69SumKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off
>>>> using a mouse or keyboard?

>
>
>> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
>> news:eYUYC6rmKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
>>> power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter
>>> of fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
>>> GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
>>> should he/she choose not to do so.
>>> Anna

>
>
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:%23S6yqxsmKHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Wow! If that's true I learned something today. It cannot be a power off
>> condition then.
>> What is the BIOS setting?

>
>
> In the Gigabyte MB BIOS that I'm presently using the settings are "Power
> On By Keyboard" and "Power On By Mouse". Obviously the setting might have
> different labels in other motherboards having that capability. And there
> might be other options available within those settings, e.g., the user can
> set (if desired) a password after the keystroke. Or the mouse-click can be
> set to a single or double-click.
> Anna
>
 
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