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PC sleeps too soundly

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Herzl Regev, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. Herzl Regev

    Herzl Regev Flightless Bird

    My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
    idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
    mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be done?
     
  2. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they
    are not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the
    Power button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving
    you want as that will determine the method used to wake it up.

    Herzl Regev wrote:

    > My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
    > idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
    > mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    > necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be done?
     
  3. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Do you mean standby? Hibernate is a power off condition.
    "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
    > My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
    > idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
    > mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    > necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
    > done?
     
  4. 3c273

    3c273 Flightless Bird

    On every machine I have, this is normal behavior for hibernate. Set it to
    standby and disable hibernate if you don't like this feature.
    Louis

    "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
    > My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
    > idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
    > mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    > necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be

    done?
     
  5. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jan 20, 10:30 am, Herzl Regev
    <HerzlRe...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When left
    > idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
    > mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    > necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be done?


    Here is something to read about the differences between Hibernate and
    Stand By.

    Set your system up the way that makes sense to you and then if it is
    malfunctioning we can fix it.

    http://www.timeatlas.com/term_to_le...ng_differences_between_hibernate_and_stand_by
     
  6. M.I.5¾

    M.I.5¾ Flightless Bird

    "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
    > not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
    > button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
    > as that will determine the method used to wake it up.
    >


    Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
    awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).

    > Herzl Regev wrote:
    >
    >> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
    >> left idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the
    >> kbd or mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and
    >> it necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
    >> done?

    >
     
  7. M.I.5¾

    M.I.5¾ Flightless Bird

    "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    news:u5xbe5emKHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Do you mean standby? Hibernate is a power off condition.


    from which it can be awakened by any stimulus that wakes from standby.

    > "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
    >> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
    >> left
    >> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd or
    >> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    >> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
    >> done?

    >
    >
     
  8. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jan 21, 5:43 am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
    > "Bob I" <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    > > Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
    > > not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
    > > button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
    > > as that will determine the method used to wake it up.

    >
    > Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
    > awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).
    >
    >
    >
    > > Herzl Regev wrote:

    >
    > >> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
    > >> left idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the
    > >> kbd or mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and
    > >> it necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
    > >> done?


    My computers (desktop and/or laptop), XP Pro SP3, will Hibernate and
    Stand By just fine.

    If in Standy By and properly configured, I can wake them from the
    mouse, keyboard, NIC, Scheduled Task or some third party programs that
    needs to update will wake it.

    If in Hibernate, I can only wake it from the power button (I tried all
    the Stand By wakey wakey methods). The only thing that works from
    Hibernate is the power button.

    It might be nice (or annoying) to have XP wake up from Hibernate from
    those other methods, but I know mine does not.

    Is my system malfunctioning?
     
  9. Alister

    Alister Flightless Bird

    M.I.5¾ wrote:
    > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
    >> not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
    >> button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
    >> as that will determine the method used to wake it up.
    >>

    >
    > Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
    > awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).
    >

    Not True, hibernate is a power off condition where the system state is
    saved to the Hard drive prior to shutdown. There is no software running
    to monitor keyboard or mouse inputs, as there is in standby. In
    Hibernate, the monitor / screen, Hard drives and Processor are all
    powered down.

    A PC in true Hibernate can only be woken from the power button.

    Alister
     
  10. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    M.I.5¾ wrote:

    > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:-OX9Pj1emKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>Standby can be woken through the use of the keyboard or mouse as they are
    >>not powered off, Hibernate is a powered off condition that needs the Power
    >>button to be applied. You must decide which level of power saving you want
    >>as that will determine the method used to wake it up.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Hibernate can also be awoken from hibernation by any of the stimuli that can
    > awake it from standby (including use of mouse or keyboard).
    >


    Pretty tough to do if the USB ports are dead.
     
  11. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off using a
    mouse or keyboard?
    "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:4b582fe3$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
    >
    > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    > news:u5xbe5emKHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Do you mean standby? Hibernate is a power off condition.

    >
    > from which it can be awakened by any stimulus that wakes from standby.
    >
    >> "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:F52C7CB7-733D-4649-B8DC-537B99635438@microsoft.com...
    >>> My PC (WinXP Home SP2) is set to hibernate after some idle time. When
    >>> left
    >>> idle for about 30 nim. to an hour, it gets to a state in which the kbd
    >>> or
    >>> mouse are not enough to wake it up. Its power button is dark, and it
    >>> necessary to push that button in order to wake the PC up. what can be
    >>> done?

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
  12. Anna

    Anna Flightless Bird

    "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off using
    > a mouse or keyboard?



    A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
    power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter of
    fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
    GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
    should he/she choose not to do so.
    Anna
     
  13. Herzl Regev

    Herzl Regev Flightless Bird

    I rechecked and the machine is set to Stand By, not Hibernate. And its
    behavior in respect to waking up varies, so it can't be doing exactly what it
    is supposed to.
     
  14. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jan 21, 12:52 pm, Herzl Regev
    <HerzlRe...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > I rechecked and the machine is set to Stand By, not Hibernate. And its
    > behavior in respect to waking up varies, so it can't be doing exactly what it
    > is supposed to.


    When in Stand By, in what way does the behavior in respect to waking
    up vary and what is it supposed to do that it is not?

    What does it do that you think it should not be doing?

    What does it not do that you think it should?
     
  15. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Wow! If that's true I learned something today. It cannot be a power off
    condition then.
    What is the BIOS setting?
    "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
    news:eYUYC6rmKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    > news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off
    >> using a mouse or keyboard?

    >
    >
    > A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
    > power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter of
    > fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
    > GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
    > should he/she choose not to do so.
    > Anna
    >
     
  16. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Check your settings. Do you enter into Standby after X minutes and then
    Hibernate in Y minutes?
    "Herzl Regev" <HerzlRegev@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:254A9429-5CA2-4B02-BCB1-798313A73633@microsoft.com...
    >I rechecked and the machine is set to Stand By, not Hibernate. And its
    > behavior in respect to waking up varies, so it can't be doing exactly what
    > it
    > is supposed to.
     
  17. 3c273

    3c273 Flightless Bird

    "Alister" <alister.gcs@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:%23lrxbhpmKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >
    > A PC in true Hibernate can only be woken from the power button.
    >
    > Alister


    This is wrong. I've had this argument before. Scheduled tasks can set a PME
    (power management event) in the RTC (real time clock) that will bring the
    machine out of hibernate. This occurs when you check the box labeled "Wake
    the computer to run this task" on the settings tab of the Task Scheduler.
    Wake On LAN can also be used to bring a machine out of hibernation. I do
    both of these things regularly. Your hardware must support these mechanisms
    in order to wake the machine.

    http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_win_task
    <quote>
    Scheduled tasks use the real time clock (RTC) and power management events
    (PMEs) provided by the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) to
    wake the machine out of system standby or hibernate. On the settings tab of
    a scheduled task, an option labeled "Wake the machine to run this task" will
    set a PME inside the RTC for the time when the task is scheduled to run.
    </quote>

    I Can't find the WOL reference but I do it every day.

    Louis
     
  18. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    But not the keyboard or mouse.
    "3c273" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:%23rMF4$tmKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Alister" <alister.gcs@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:%23lrxbhpmKHA.2780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> A PC in true Hibernate can only be woken from the power button.
    >>
    >> Alister

    >
    > This is wrong. I've had this argument before. Scheduled tasks can set a
    > PME
    > (power management event) in the RTC (real time clock) that will bring the
    > machine out of hibernate. This occurs when you check the box labeled "Wake
    > the computer to run this task" on the settings tab of the Task Scheduler.
    > Wake On LAN can also be used to bring a machine out of hibernation. I do
    > both of these things regularly. Your hardware must support these
    > mechanisms
    > in order to wake the machine.
    >
    > http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_win_task
    > <quote>
    > Scheduled tasks use the real time clock (RTC) and power management events
    > (PMEs) provided by the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)
    > to
    > wake the machine out of system standby or hibernate. On the settings tab
    > of
    > a scheduled task, an option labeled "Wake the machine to run this task"
    > will
    > set a PME inside the RTC for the time when the task is scheduled to run.
    > </quote>
    >
    > I Can't find the WOL reference but I do it every day.
    >
    > Louis
    >
    >
     
  19. Anna

    Anna Flightless Bird


    >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    >> news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off
    >>> using a mouse or keyboard?



    > "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
    > news:eYUYC6rmKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
    >> power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter of
    >> fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
    >> GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
    >> should he/she choose not to do so.
    >> Anna



    "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    news:%23S6yqxsmKHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Wow! If that's true I learned something today. It cannot be a power off
    > condition then.
    > What is the BIOS setting?



    In the Gigabyte MB BIOS that I'm presently using the settings are "Power On
    By Keyboard" and "Power On By Mouse". Obviously the setting might have
    different labels in other motherboards having that capability. And there
    might be other options available within those settings, e.g., the user can
    set (if desired) a password after the keystroke. Or the mouse-click can be
    set to a single or double-click.
    Anna
     
  20. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Thanks! Something new each day.
    "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
    news:uJf69SumKHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    >>> news:uLxhPermKHA.1540@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Absolutely not true. How do you wake up a system if its power is off
    >>>> using a mouse or keyboard?

    >
    >
    >> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
    >> news:eYUYC6rmKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>> A number of motherboard BIOS's provide a setting that allows the user to
    >>> power-on the PC by a click of the mouse and/or a keypress. As a matter
    >>> of fact the Gigabyte MB I'm using right now has that capability - model
    >>> GA-EP45-UD3R. So there's no need for a user to use the PC's power button
    >>> should he/she choose not to do so.
    >>> Anna

    >
    >
    > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    > news:%23S6yqxsmKHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Wow! If that's true I learned something today. It cannot be a power off
    >> condition then.
    >> What is the BIOS setting?

    >
    >
    > In the Gigabyte MB BIOS that I'm presently using the settings are "Power
    > On By Keyboard" and "Power On By Mouse". Obviously the setting might have
    > different labels in other motherboards having that capability. And there
    > might be other options available within those settings, e.g., the user can
    > set (if desired) a password after the keystroke. Or the mouse-click can be
    > set to a single or double-click.
    > Anna
    >
     

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