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Overclocking.

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Brian V

Flightless Bird
I have read a little bit about this. I am curious if anyone can recommend any
sites or knowledge bases about overclocking.

I am not planning on doing this. I just want to be informed. I think I need
more pc experience to do any overlclocking. It seems to deal with gaming and
can be used with any hardware in your computer? Does it realate to software?

Any advice is also appriciated from anyones experience.

My warrenty is long over. No warrenty will become void if I over-clock.
 
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sgopus

Flightless Bird
It's a method used to tweak your hardware (CPU) to run faster than normal,
and possibly overheating, some cpu's tolerate this just fine, others burn up.
Do a search on Google for your CPU model if your interested.

"Brian V" wrote:

> I have read a little bit about this. I am curious if anyone can recommend any
> sites or knowledge bases about overclocking.
>
> I am not planning on doing this. I just want to be informed. I think I need
> more pc experience to do any overlclocking. It seems to deal with gaming and
> can be used with any hardware in your computer? Does it realate to software?
>
> Any advice is also appriciated from anyones experience.
>
> My warrenty is long over. No warrenty will become void if I over-clock.
 
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Peter Foldes

Flightless Bird
Overclocking a CPU is asking for problems

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"Brian V" <BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:397EE524-3581-4FF8-83B4-395DD408319B@microsoft.com...
>I have read a little bit about this. I am curious if anyone can recommend any
> sites or knowledge bases about overclocking.
>
> I am not planning on doing this. I just want to be informed. I think I need
> more pc experience to do any overlclocking. It seems to deal with gaming and
> can be used with any hardware in your computer? Does it realate to software?
>
> Any advice is also appriciated from anyones experience.
>
> My warrenty is long over. No warrenty will become void if I over-clock.
 
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Lol

Flightless Bird
"Brian V" <BrianV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:397EE524-3581-4FF8-83B4-395DD408319B@microsoft.com...
>I have read a little bit about this. I am curious if anyone can recommend
>any
> sites or knowledge bases about overclocking.
>
> I am not planning on doing this. I just want to be informed. I think I
> need
> more pc experience to do any overlclocking. It seems to deal with gaming
> and
> can be used with any hardware in your computer? Does it realate to
> software?
>
> Any advice is also appriciated from anyones experience.
>
> My warrenty is long over. No warrenty will become void if I over-clock.


You'll find a lot here,
http://www.overclockers.com/3-step-guide-overclock-core-i3-i5-i7/
but quite honestly overclocking made sense in the days when hardware was
relatively expensive, and performance was poor.

Nowadays powerful hardware can be had cheaply, and overclocking is the
territory of those seeking the ultimate in performance with the maximum of
technicalities.
(Hmmm "ultimate" used to mean "last", now it is used to mean "fast").

I don't think most overclockers use their computers to do much other than
run benchmarks!

Well thats my view,
Lol
 
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Paul

Flightless Bird
Brian V wrote:
> I have read a little bit about this. I am curious if anyone can recommend any
> sites or knowledge bases about overclocking.
>
> I am not planning on doing this. I just want to be informed. I think I need
> more pc experience to do any overlclocking. It seems to deal with gaming and
> can be used with any hardware in your computer? Does it realate to software?
>
> Any advice is also appriciated from anyones experience.
>
> My warrenty is long over. No warrenty will become void if I over-clock.


If you want the thrill of overclocking, you can start right now. If the
degree of overclock is small enough, you don't have to know anything to
do it.

Download this software. It allows overclocking. You run this in Windows,
rather than attempting to overclock from the BIOS. Install it and run
it. Your E380 and its 6100 Northbridge are in the supported hardware list
("Geforce 6100/6150"). I have to point you to an archived copy of the
program, because the author no longer supports it (likely got tired of
people asking for support for their motherboard).

http://web.archive.org/web/20070929075711/http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php

Move the FSB slider by 1MHz. Now you're overclocking. You can review and
verify the results in real time, with this. I don't have to use an
archived copy of this program, because the developer still supports it.
By only overclocking by 1MHz, none of the hardware will be stressed,
so there should be no damage or side effects from your experiment.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Now, compare your results, to this guy. He is running a Celeron processor
at 8.2GHz. The CPU is cooled to -186C with liquid nitrogen. The CPU has
had the metal lid removed, so the cooling system can be in intimate contact
with the silicon die. This is what real overclockers do for fun. This
web site probably has somewhere around 1 million reports of various kinds,
involving computers running at abnormal speeds.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/949325_tin_cpu_z_celeron_lga775_347_8199.5_mhz

For discussions about all aspects of this sport, I recommend the forums here.
Some of the forums have "sticky" threads, containing a primer on the topic.
For example, the water cooling forum has an article, describing some of the
basics of water cooling for computers. Anyone with money for this kind of
stuff (like spending $5000 for a custom freon-based cooling system), is likely
to show up and post here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/index.php

You can spend hours going through the forums there, and learn about the
latest hardware and how to overclock it. And you'll learn valuable things,
such as not running your 45nm Core2 processor at more than 1.4 volts on Vcore.
Or not to boost the Vcore on your FX57, without boosting the Vdimm at the
same time, to prevent damage to the processor. Other people will have ruined
hundreds of dollars worth of processors, to get some of those data points,
and make it possible for later overclcokers to do their thing with more safety.

And if you want to understand what mechanisms can damage the processor, try an
article like this. This is one way processors are gradually ruined. When
enthusiasts ruin processors in this way, such that they won't overclock any
more, the unscrupulous sell them on Ebay :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration

Have fun,
Paul
 
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Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:hjo68g$a5o$1@speranza.aioe.org,
Paul <nospam@needed.com> typed:
> Brian V wrote:
>> I have read a little bit about this. I am curious if anyone can
>> recommend any sites or knowledge bases about overclocking.
>>
>> I am not planning on doing this. I just want to be informed. I think
>> I need more pc experience to do any overlclocking. It seems to deal
>> with gaming and can be used with any hardware in your computer? Does
>> it realate to software? Any advice is also appriciated from anyones
>> experience.
>>
>> My warrenty is long over. No warrenty will become void if I
>> over-clock.

>
> If you want the thrill of overclocking, you can start right now. If
> the degree of overclock is small enough, you don't have to know anything
> to do it.
>
> Download this software. It allows overclocking. You run this in
> Windows, rather than attempting to overclock from the BIOS. Install
> it and run it. Your E380 and its 6100 Northbridge are in the supported
> hardware
> list ("Geforce 6100/6150"). I have to point you to an archived copy
> of the program, because the author no longer supports it (likely got tired
> of
> people asking for support for their motherboard).
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070929075711/http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php
>
> Move the FSB slider by 1MHz. Now you're overclocking. You can review
> and verify the results in real time, with this. I don't have to use an
> archived copy of this program, because the developer still supports
> it. By only overclocking by 1MHz, none of the hardware will be stressed,
> so there should be no damage or side effects from your experiment.
>
> http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
>
> Now, compare your results, to this guy. He is running a Celeron
> processor at 8.2GHz. The CPU is cooled to -186C with liquid nitrogen. The
> CPU
> has had the metal lid removed, so the cooling system can be in intimate
> contact with the silicon die. This is what real overclockers do for
> fun. This web site probably has somewhere around 1 million reports of
> various
> kinds, involving computers running at abnormal speeds.
>
> http://hwbot.org/community/submission/949325_tin_cpu_z_celeron_lga775_347_8199.5_mhz
>
> For discussions about all aspects of this sport, I recommend the
> forums here. Some of the forums have "sticky" threads, containing a
> primer on the topic. For example, the water cooling forum has an
> article, describing some of the basics of water cooling for
> computers. Anyone with money for this kind of stuff (like spending
> $5000 for a custom freon-based cooling system), is likely to show up
> and post here.
> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/index.php
>
> You can spend hours going through the forums there, and learn about
> the latest hardware and how to overclock it. And you'll learn valuable
> things, such as not running your 45nm Core2 processor at more than
> 1.4 volts on Vcore. Or not to boost the Vcore on your FX57, without
> boosting the Vdimm at the same time, to prevent damage to the processor.
> Other people will have
> ruined hundreds of dollars worth of processors, to get some of those
> data points, and make it possible for later overclcokers to do their thing
> with
> more safety.
> And if you want to understand what mechanisms can damage the
> processor, try an article like this. This is one way processors are
> gradually ruined. When enthusiasts ruin processors in this way, such
> that they won't overclock any more, the unscrupulous sell them on
> Ebay :)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration
>
> Have fun,
> Paul


Something no one has mentioned: If the motherboard isn't laid out to handle
the new speeds it likely will fail miserably.
And the faster you run a cpu, the more power it needs, the hotter it gets,
so the PSU and fan has to be able to have the power available for it, too.

HTH,

Twayne
 
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Brian V

Flightless Bird
Done and done. Thank you.

I have no plan to do this. I heard about some of this happening. Just
usually black screen, burned out system, crashes and destroyed/unrefundable.
Those links sound extreme. Not for me. I may read them. Thanks.
 
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