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Bill in Co.
Flightless Bird
Re: Reliable Medium For Long Term Backup And Archiving
Oh yeah. The good ole, ad hom used as a last resort, trick.
Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:
> Bill He's Resorting to Insults
> Just let him go...
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> "thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFC60A18C507thanexit@188.40.43.245...
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:#cukKObkKHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> thanatoid wrote:
>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz>
>>>> wrote in news:#e0EN9ZkKHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>>
>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> I'll just say that based on empirical evidence,
>>>
>>> Documented (peer reviewed) cites, please?
>>
>> Read the complete sentence before asking stupid questions. (At
>> least you're not a top-poster.)
>>
>>>> the only thing
>>>> that outlasts properly stored magnetic tape is paper -
>>>> disc burning /or/ HD technology has not been around long
>>>> enough -
>>>
>>> Documented cites??? This is an unsubstantiated claim.
>>
>> Oh, so you have 100 year-old CD-R's that play better than a book
>> printed 100 years ago "reads"?
>>
>>> Actually, hard drives make a good backup, especially if
>>> they are external drives which are only used as needed.
>>> They are both FAST and have HUGE storage capabilities,
>>> unlike most any other backup media. CD's and DVDs are too
>>> limited in capacity, and tapes take forever. And what
>>> makes you think magnetic tapes last longer than magnetic
>>> disks? How many old reel to reel magnetic audio tapes
>>> from the late 1940's do you have *that are still in good
>>> condition*? (rhetorical)
>>
>> I don't but many people involved in archiving the past do. They
>> ARE putting them into digital formats but they are not throwing
>> the originals out. Ever been to a museum?
>>
>>>> well, HD's /have/ been around for /some/ time, but
>>>> contrary to everyone else in the world, you appear to
>>>> believe they're magical and indestructible, especially
>>>> when they have a Google stamp on them.
>>>
>>> Nothing is indestructible, including paper.
>>
>> I never said paper was indestructible. You can destroy anything
>> if you want.
>>
>>> They ALL have
>>> lifetime issues. Ever checked out the condition of books
>>> (i.e. paper) from, say, 1920? Good luck on that one.
>>
>> I have quite a few books from the XIXth century and even more
>> from before WWII and they are just fine. Go to a library or an
>> antiquarian, you may see some even better examples.
Oh yeah. The good ole, ad hom used as a last resort, trick.
Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:
> Bill He's Resorting to Insults
> Just let him go...
>
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
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>
>
> "thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFC60A18C507thanexit@188.40.43.245...
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:#cukKObkKHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> thanatoid wrote:
>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz>
>>>> wrote in news:#e0EN9ZkKHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>>
>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> I'll just say that based on empirical evidence,
>>>
>>> Documented (peer reviewed) cites, please?
>>
>> Read the complete sentence before asking stupid questions. (At
>> least you're not a top-poster.)
>>
>>>> the only thing
>>>> that outlasts properly stored magnetic tape is paper -
>>>> disc burning /or/ HD technology has not been around long
>>>> enough -
>>>
>>> Documented cites??? This is an unsubstantiated claim.
>>
>> Oh, so you have 100 year-old CD-R's that play better than a book
>> printed 100 years ago "reads"?
>>
>>> Actually, hard drives make a good backup, especially if
>>> they are external drives which are only used as needed.
>>> They are both FAST and have HUGE storage capabilities,
>>> unlike most any other backup media. CD's and DVDs are too
>>> limited in capacity, and tapes take forever. And what
>>> makes you think magnetic tapes last longer than magnetic
>>> disks? How many old reel to reel magnetic audio tapes
>>> from the late 1940's do you have *that are still in good
>>> condition*? (rhetorical)
>>
>> I don't but many people involved in archiving the past do. They
>> ARE putting them into digital formats but they are not throwing
>> the originals out. Ever been to a museum?
>>
>>>> well, HD's /have/ been around for /some/ time, but
>>>> contrary to everyone else in the world, you appear to
>>>> believe they're magical and indestructible, especially
>>>> when they have a Google stamp on them.
>>>
>>> Nothing is indestructible, including paper.
>>
>> I never said paper was indestructible. You can destroy anything
>> if you want.
>>
>>> They ALL have
>>> lifetime issues. Ever checked out the condition of books
>>> (i.e. paper) from, say, 1920? Good luck on that one.
>>
>> I have quite a few books from the XIXth century and even more
>> from before WWII and they are just fine. Go to a library or an
>> antiquarian, you may see some even better examples.