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OK to uninstall XP Hotfix/Security Updates??? Out of ROM

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Cecelala, Feb 5, 2010.

  1. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/ w/465
    GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro 5.1.2600
    TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    Pg File Space 6.86 GB

    Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    Publisher SW??
    Low Reg. Space

    The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.

    This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.

    Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??

    Thank you in advance,
    Cecelala
     
  2. Jim

    Jim Flightless Bird

    The $ntunintstall--- folders contain software which removes a particular
    update. If you never expect to remove updates, then you can delete the
    folders. It would be safer, though, to copy the folders to a CD or DVD
    first.

    The uninstall folders cannot be the sole cause of your problem.

    First, you should lower the amount of space that you allow the system to use
    for system restore. Then you clean your disk to remove temporary files,
    etc. Your problem may be caused by malware; hence it is appropriate to
    perform malware scans.

    Jim
    "Cecelala" <Cecelala@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AA14F7CB-02DF-4D21-B60B-243FFD2BB54B@microsoft.com...
    >I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/
    > w/465
    > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
    > 5.1.2600
    > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    >
    > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > Publisher SW??
    > Low Reg. Space
    >
    > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    >
    > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    >
    > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Cecelala
     
  3. Rich Barry

    Rich Barry Flightless Bird

    Those $ files are for uninstalling the windows updates if they are a
    problem. Rarely, I say with a smile on my face are they a problem. I
    personally delete all of them a week or
    two after they have been installed whether by auto updates or me going
    to win update site and doing it from there.
    Do you need such a large page file? Almost 7G seems excessive.
    Though video files can be very large. Restore dates if you have System
    Restore activated can be deleted except for
    the most recent ones.

    "Cecelala" <Cecelala@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AA14F7CB-02DF-4D21-B60B-243FFD2BB54B@microsoft.com...
    >I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/
    > w/465
    > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
    > 5.1.2600
    > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    >
    > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > Publisher SW??
    > Low Reg. Space
    >
    > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    >
    > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    >
    > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Cecelala
     
  4. Chet

    Chet Flightless Bird

    On 2/5/2010 7:51 PM, Cecelala wrote:
    > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/ w/465
    > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro 5.1.2600
    > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    >
    > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > Publisher SW??
    > Low Reg. Space
    >
    > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    >
    > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    >
    > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Cecelala


    You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
    <http://www.ccleaner.com/>

    It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
    remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.

    You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
    registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
    these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
    cleaning the registry.

    hth
    --
    Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
     
  5. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Cecelala wrote:
    > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a
    > C:/ w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the
    > usage has gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available.
    > Running XP Pro 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    >
    > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > Publisher SW??
    > Low Reg. Space
    >
    > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    >
    > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    >
    > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can
    > delete old files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space
    > on the C:/??


    If that much space has been used - it is *your* stuff. ;-)

    Video Surveillance - really? I would think you know where the space has
    gone. ;-)

    If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
    uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
    ( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
    ( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )

    You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
    latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

    How to use Disk Cleanup
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

    You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

    When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
    memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
    file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
    don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
    uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

    - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
    Control Panel, and click Power Options).
    - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
    click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
    "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
    hiberfil.sys file.
    - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
    tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

    You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

    1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
    2. Click the System Restore tab.
    3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
    the "Settings" button.
    4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
    the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
    5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

    You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

    Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
    size between 64MB and 128MB..

    - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
    - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
    - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
    following:
    - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
    - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
    something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
    now.)
    - Click OK.
    - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
    (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
    minutes or more.)
    - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
    Explorer.

    You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
    temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

    Ccleaner (Free!)
    http://www.ccleaner.com/

    Other ways to free up space..

    JDiskReport
    http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

    SequoiaView
    http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

    Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

    In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
    will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
    than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
    likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
    it.

    Reboot and logon as administrative user.

    You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C:)...

    How to Defragment your hard drives
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
    * will take time

    BTW - memory (the error message you got) and hard disk space are two
    different things - although they can be related and cause problems with one
    or the other. ;-)

    The error seems to point towards video capture software - so I say/imply
    again - your video surveillance will take up HUGE amounts of space.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  6. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Cecelala wrote:
    > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a
    > C:/ w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the
    > usage has gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available.
    > Running XP Pro 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    >
    > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > Publisher SW??
    > Low Reg. Space
    >
    > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    >
    > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    >
    > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete
    > old files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the
    > C:/??
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Cecelala


    Something tells me that most of your hard drive is filled up with video
    files. Although Shenan offered excellent suggestions to trim down, I
    think you really need to figure out what to do with your actual data.
    That is, if you are successful in freeing up a few GB, it still won't be
    enough. Realistically, you want 100GB of free space (for a drive your
    size) for adequate breathing room.

    My advice is to purchase another hard drive to store your data on.
    Simply copy your data (presumably video files). Once they are safely
    copied, you may delete the original files on the PC's congested hard
    drive. Then follow all of Shenan's advice. Once you are finished
    deleting, *then* you can defrag (many make the mistake of defragging
    first!).

    BTW, I would rather you keep the uninstall files. In the overall scheme
    of things, they don't take up that much space. But if this is something
    you really want to do, the link Shenan gave should be helpful:

    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
     
  7. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827

    PS: What's your CD-ROM got to do with it?


    Cecelala wrote:
    > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/
    > w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has
    > gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
    > 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    >
    > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > Publisher SW??
    > Low Reg. Space
    >
    > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    >
    > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    >
    > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    >
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Cecelala
     
  8. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:00:08 -0600, Chet
    <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com> wrote:


    > You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
    > <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
    >
    > It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
    > remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.
    >
    > You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
    > registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
    > these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
    > cleaning the registry.



    I'll second your recommendation of CCleaner, as long as its registry
    cleaning function isn't used. Registry cleaner should not be used
    because they are dangerous, not just that there's not much to be
    gained.

    Here's my standard post on registry cleaners:

    Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.

    Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html



    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  9. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you very much for your assistance. Very good idea to copy first. Do I
    also need to worry about which applications these files are associated to
    before deleting?
    Cecelala

    "Jim" wrote:

    > The $ntunintstall--- folders contain software which removes a particular
    > update. If you never expect to remove updates, then you can delete the
    > folders. It would be safer, though, to copy the folders to a CD or DVD
    > first.
    >
    > The uninstall folders cannot be the sole cause of your problem.
    >
    > First, you should lower the amount of space that you allow the system to use
    > for system restore. Then you clean your disk to remove temporary files,
    > etc. Your problem may be caused by malware; hence it is appropriate to
    > perform malware scans.
    >
    > Jim
    > "Cecelala" <Cecelala@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:AA14F7CB-02DF-4D21-B60B-243FFD2BB54B@microsoft.com...
    > >I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/
    > > w/465
    > > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    > > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
    > > 5.1.2600
    > > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    > >
    > > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > > Publisher SW??
    > > Low Reg. Space
    > >
    > > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    > >
    > > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    > >
    > > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance,
    > > Cecelala

    >
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  10. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you for your assisance in this matter. Everyone is very helpful. I do
    have another question please: the 'win update site' you spoke of; can you
    give me a little help in how to do set-up for auto deleting of uninstall
    files? Also, how can I change the 'Page file' size?

    Cecelala

    "Rich Barry" wrote:

    > Those $ files are for uninstalling the windows updates if they are a
    > problem. Rarely, I say with a smile on my face are they a problem. I
    > personally delete all of them a week or
    > two after they have been installed whether by auto updates or me going
    > to win update site and doing it from there.
    > Do you need such a large page file? Almost 7G seems excessive.
    > Though video files can be very large. Restore dates if you have System
    > Restore activated can be deleted except for
    > the most recent ones.
    >
    > "Cecelala" <Cecelala@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:AA14F7CB-02DF-4D21-B60B-243FFD2BB54B@microsoft.com...
    > >I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/
    > > w/465
    > > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    > > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
    > > 5.1.2600
    > > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    > >
    > > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > > Publisher SW??
    > > Low Reg. Space
    > >
    > > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    > >
    > > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    > >
    > > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance,
    > > Cecelala

    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  11. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you very much for your help. I have been told about the CCleaner a few
    times. I guess now is a good time to use it. Is there anything that I
    should be aware of or do before using it?

    Cecelala

    "Chet" wrote:

    > On 2/5/2010 7:51 PM, Cecelala wrote:
    > > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/ w/465
    > > GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has gone.
    > > Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro 5.1.2600
    > > TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    > >
    > > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > > Publisher SW??
    > > Low Reg. Space
    > >
    > > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    > >
    > > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    > >
    > > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance,
    > > Cecelala

    >
    > You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
    > <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
    >
    > It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
    > remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.
    >
    > You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
    > registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
    > these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
    > cleaning the registry.
    >
    > hth
    > --
    > Chet <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com>
    > .
    >
     
  12. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you for your help as well. I always get nervous when it comes to doing
    anything with the registry files. I definitely will not touch those or
    delete.

    Cecelala

    "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

    > On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:00:08 -0600, Chet
    > <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > > You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
    > > <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
    > >
    > > It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
    > > remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.
    > >
    > > You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
    > > registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
    > > these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
    > > cleaning the registry.

    >
    >
    > I'll second your recommendation of CCleaner, as long as its registry
    > cleaning function isn't used. Registry cleaner should not be used
    > because they are dangerous, not just that there's not much to be
    > gained.
    >
    > Here's my standard post on registry cleaners:
    >
    > Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    > registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    > don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    > what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    > having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
    >
    > The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    > removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    > it may have.
    >
    > Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > .
    >
     
  13. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you so very much for such detail. Always appreciate that!! You have
    given me a lot to do...can't wait to get it done! And yes, it is for a
    business (not mine) and is actually used for surveillance. I haven't looked
    too deep into the system to find out how much video is actually stored in the
    files and don't know where or what the other 'stuff' might be but will have
    to explore. I will definitely take all of your advise. Also, I did do the
    Disk Cleanup but there wasn't much in there to delete. Can I safely delete
    'Temp. Install files'?

    Thanks again for all your wonderful assistance.

    Cecelala

    "Shenan Stanley" wrote:

    > Cecelala wrote:
    > > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a
    > > C:/ w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the
    > > usage has gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available.
    > > Running XP Pro 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    > >
    > > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > > Publisher SW??
    > > Low Reg. Space
    > >
    > > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    > >
    > > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    > >
    > > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can
    > > delete old files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space
    > > on the C:/??

    >
    > If that much space has been used - it is *your* stuff. ;-)
    >
    > Video Surveillance - really? I would think you know where the space has
    > gone. ;-)
    >
    > If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
    > uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
    > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
    > ( Particularly of interest here - #4 )
    > ( Alternative: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm )
    >
    > You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
    > latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
    >
    > How to use Disk Cleanup
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
    >
    > You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
    >
    > When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
    > memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
    > file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
    > don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
    > uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:
    >
    > - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
    > Control Panel, and click Power Options).
    > - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
    > click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
    > "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
    > hiberfil.sys file.
    > - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
    > tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
    >
    > You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
    >
    > 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
    > 2. Click the System Restore tab.
    > 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
    > the "Settings" button.
    > 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
    > the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
    > 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
    >
    > You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...
    >
    > Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
    > size between 64MB and 128MB..
    >
    > - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
    > - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
    > - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
    > following:
    > - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
    > - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
    > something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
    > now.)
    > - Click OK.
    > - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
    > (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
    > minutes or more.)
    > - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
    > Explorer.
    >
    > You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
    > temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
    >
    > Ccleaner (Free!)
    > http://www.ccleaner.com/
    >
    > Other ways to free up space..
    >
    > JDiskReport
    > http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
    >
    > SequoiaView
    > http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
    >
    > Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.
    >
    > In the end - a standard Windows XP installation with all sorts of extras
    > will not likely be above about 4.5GB to 9GB in size. If you have more space
    > than that (likely do on a modern machine) and most of it seems to be used -
    > likely you need to move *your stuff* off and/or find a better way to manage
    > it.
    >
    > Reboot and logon as administrative user.
    >
    > You should now perform a full Defragment on your system drive (C:)...
    >
    > How to Defragment your hard drives
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
    > * will take time
    >
    > BTW - memory (the error message you got) and hard disk space are two
    > different things - although they can be related and cause problems with one
    > or the other. ;-)
    >
    > The error seems to point towards video capture software - so I say/imply
    > again - your video surveillance will take up HUGE amounts of space.
    >
    > --
    > Shenan Stanley
    > MS-MVP
    > --
    > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  14. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you for your help. I am never quite sure about the uninstall files.
    There are A LOT of them. They go so far back that I thought it might be good
    to clean out some if not all of them. Everyone is very very helpful...I
    really really appreciate it. I am so glad this is available to the average
    person (me).

    Thanks again
    Cecelala

    "Daave" wrote:

    > Cecelala wrote:
    > > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a
    > > C:/ w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the
    > > usage has gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available.
    > > Running XP Pro 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    > >
    > > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > > Publisher SW??
    > > Low Reg. Space
    > >
    > > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    > >
    > > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    > >
    > > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete
    > > old files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the
    > > C:/??
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance,
    > > Cecelala

    >
    > Something tells me that most of your hard drive is filled up with video
    > files. Although Shenan offered excellent suggestions to trim down, I
    > think you really need to figure out what to do with your actual data.
    > That is, if you are successful in freeing up a few GB, it still won't be
    > enough. Realistically, you want 100GB of free space (for a drive your
    > size) for adequate breathing room.
    >
    > My advice is to purchase another hard drive to store your data on.
    > Simply copy your data (presumably video files). Once they are safely
    > copied, you may delete the original files on the PC's congested hard
    > drive. Then follow all of Shenan's advice. Once you are finished
    > deleting, *then* you can defrag (many make the mistake of defragging
    > first!).
    >
    > BTW, I would rather you keep the uninstall files. In the overall scheme
    > of things, they don't take up that much space. But if this is something
    > you really want to do, the link Shenan gave should be helpful:
    >
    > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  15. Cecelala

    Cecelala Flightless Bird

    Thank you for your help. I was trying to figure out if it meant something
    other than the CD-ROM. I'm not sure so need to check it out.

    Cecelala

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

    > See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827
    >
    > PS: What's your CD-ROM got to do with it?
    >
    >
    > Cecelala wrote:
    > > I am trying to figure out if it is ok to uninstall multiple files:
    > > $ntuninstallKB887742$ thru KB919007?? The PC I am working on has a C:/
    > > w/465 GB and available is 1.64GB. Trying to find out where the usage has
    > > gone. Unable to do a Defrag...not enough space available. Running XP Pro
    > > 5.1.2600 TTL Physical Memory 4,097MB
    > > Avail. Phys. Mem 3.02 GB
    > > TTL Virtual Mem 2.64 GB
    > > Avail Virtual Mem 2.60 GB
    > > Pg File Space 6.86 GB
    > >
    > > Error msg came up: 110-Out of Memory space for ROM Options
    > > Publisher SW??
    > > Low Reg. Space
    > >
    > > The $ntuninstallKB******$ files go back as far as 2006.
    > >
    > > This PC is for business and uses Video Surveillance.
    > >
    > > Can you help and direct me in the possibilities of 1) if I can delete old
    > > files (KB's) and where else I can look to get more space on the C:/??
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance,
    > > Cecelala

    > .
    >
     
  16. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:12:01 -0800, Cecelala
    <Cecelala@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    > Thank you for your help as well. I always get nervous when it comes to doing
    > anything with the registry files. I definitely will not touch those or
    > delete.



    Glad to hear that, and you're welcome. Glad to help.



    > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
    >
    > > On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:00:08 -0600, Chet
    > > <chesterefSPAM@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > > You may want to try CCleaner (it's free)
    > > > <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
    > > >
    > > > It will remove the old hotfix installation files that are removable. But
    > > > remember, once you remove them you won't be able to uninstall that update.
    > > >
    > > > You can also cleanup many other caches, temps etc. as well. As to the
    > > > registry cleaner portion CCleaner, use at your own risk. If you read
    > > > these groups very often you know there's not much to be gained by
    > > > cleaning the registry.

    > >
    > >
    > > I'll second your recommendation of CCleaner, as long as its registry
    > > cleaning function isn't used. Registry cleaner should not be used
    > > because they are dangerous, not just that there's not much to be
    > > gained.
    > >
    > > Here's my standard post on registry cleaners:
    > >
    > > Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    > > registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    > > don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    > > what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    > > having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
    > >
    > > The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    > > removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    > > it may have.
    > >
    > > Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > > .
    > >


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