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NT Backup and other backup issues

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by FrankEdwards, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. FrankEdwards

    FrankEdwards Flightless Bird

    I'm getting an error when I try to schedule a backup system every day at a
    certain time. (0x8070005)
    I'm using an Admin account. ???

    Is there any software that can backup files without changing them into a
    backup format?
    If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000 files in 100
    folders in the backup location.
    Does any backup software do this?
    And it would have to be done incrementally so you're not backing up the
    same thing over and over for nothing.
     
  2. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "FrankEdwards" <no@frank.here> wrote in message
    news:eek:p.vbmurnheq6rutr@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
    > I'm getting an error when I try to schedule a backup system every day at a
    > certain time. (0x8070005)
    > I'm using an Admin account. ???
    >
    > Is there any software that can backup files without changing them into a
    > backup format?
    > If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000 files in 100
    > folders in the backup location.
    > Does any backup software do this?
    > And it would have to be done incrementally so you're not backing up the
    > same thing over and over for nothing.


    Try robocopy.exe. Works great, does all of the above.
     
  3. Don Phillipson

    Don Phillipson Flightless Bird

    "FrankEdwards" <no@frank.here> wrote in message
    news:eek:p.vbmurnheq6rutr@----------.wp.shawcable.net...

    > Is there any software that can backup files without changing them into a
    > backup format?
    > If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000 files in 100
    > folders in the backup location.
    > Does any backup software do this?


    I have used the free app from www.xxcopy.com for 10 years
    and still prefer it. It offers dozens of parameters for detailed
    application and its /clone parm works well.

    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)
     
  4. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:%23bPNbDz4KHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
    > "FrankEdwards" <no@frank.here> wrote in message
    > news:eek:p.vbmurnheq6rutr@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
    >> I'm getting an error when I try to schedule a backup
    >> system every day at a certain time. (0x8070005)
    >> I'm using an Admin account. ???
    >>
    >> Is there any software that can backup files without
    >> changing them into a backup format?
    >> If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000
    >> files in 100 folders in the backup location.
    >> Does any backup software do this?
    >> And it would have to be done incrementally so you're not
    >> backing up the same thing over and over for nothing.

    >
    > Try robocopy.exe. Works great, does all of the above.


    Good app; but it won't back up files that are "in use", meaning the
    operating system can't be backed up with it.
     
  5. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:eCAk%231z4KHA.3824@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
    Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> typed:
    > "FrankEdwards" <no@frank.here> wrote in message
    > news:eek:p.vbmurnheq6rutr@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
    >
    >> Is there any software that can backup files without
    >> changing them into a backup format?
    >> If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000
    >> files in 100 folders in the backup location.
    >> Does any backup software do this?

    >
    > I have used the free app from www.xxcopy.com for 10 years
    > and still prefer it. It offers dozens of parameters for
    > detailed application and its /clone parm works well.


    Great app; but it won't back up files that are "in use", meaning the
    operating system can't be backed up with it.

    As long as you aren't trying to back up you operating system, WinZip is an
    excellent program and allows you to create "jobs" for single click backups
    of various types, whatever you prefer.

    To do what you want though requires a "copy" function, not backup or
    imaging. Then again, ANY of the backup/imaging programs let you see the
    individual folders and files in Restore mode or even in Backup mode.
    They also provide compaction. You are limiting yourself by insisting on
    being able to see all individual files with Explorer; it's not necessary.
    Xcopy, XXCopy, Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, WinZip, ntbackup.exe which
    comes with every XP OS are all decent choices for backup or imaging disks.
    With XXCopy (xxcopy.com) you should know a bit about the command prompt
    since it's a command line tool, but once the commands are figured out, they
    can be run from a batch file. It's also blazingly fast since it doesn't
    have to manipulate the gui much.

    HTH,

    Twayne`
     
  6. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:uvvYjy84KHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > In news:%23bPNbDz4KHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    > Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
    >> "FrankEdwards" <no@frank.here> wrote in message
    >> news:eek:p.vbmurnheq6rutr@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
    >>> I'm getting an error when I try to schedule a backup
    >>> system every day at a certain time. (0x8070005)
    >>> I'm using an Admin account. ???
    >>>
    >>> Is there any software that can backup files without
    >>> changing them into a backup format?
    >>> If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000
    >>> files in 100 folders in the backup location.
    >>> Does any backup software do this?
    >>> And it would have to be done incrementally so you're not
    >>> backing up the same thing over and over for nothing.

    >>
    >> Try robocopy.exe. Works great, does all of the above.

    >
    > Good app; but it won't back up files that are "in use", meaning the
    > operating system can't be backed up with it.


    It helps mentioning this requirement in the first place. Hobocopy
    (http://sourceforge.net/projects/wangdera/files/HoboCopy/) can back up files
    that are in use. Its syntax is similar to robocopy's although its
    instruction set is not a rich.
     
  7. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:u0bcBS94KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
    Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
    > "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
    > news:uvvYjy84KHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> In news:%23bPNbDz4KHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    >> Pegasus [MVP] <news@microsoft.com> typed:
    >>> "FrankEdwards" <no@frank.here> wrote in message
    >>> news:eek:p.vbmurnheq6rutr@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
    >>>> I'm getting an error when I try to schedule a backup
    >>>> system every day at a certain time. (0x8070005)
    >>>> I'm using an Admin account. ???
    >>>>
    >>>> Is there any software that can backup files without
    >>>> changing them into a backup format?
    >>>> If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000
    >>>> files in 100 folders in the backup location.
    >>>> Does any backup software do this?
    >>>> And it would have to be done incrementally so you're not
    >>>> backing up the same thing over and over for nothing.
    >>>
    >>> Try robocopy.exe. Works great, does all of the above.

    >>
    >> Good app; but it won't back up files that are "in use",
    >> meaning the operating system can't be backed up with it.

    >
    > It helps mentioning this requirement in the first place.
    > Hobocopy
    > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/wangdera/files/HoboCopy/)
    > can back up files that are in use. Its syntax is similar to
    > robocopy's although its instruction set is not a rich.


    Hmm, that's a new one to me; I'll have to look that over.

    Thanks,

    Twayne
     
  8. FrankEdwards

    FrankEdwards Flightless Bird

    >>> Is there any software that can backup files without
    >>> changing them into a backup format?
    >>> If I have 1000 files in 100 folders I'd like to see 1000
    >>> files in 100 folders in the backup location.
    >>> Does any backup software do this?

    >>
    >> I have used the free app from www.xxcopy.com for 10 years
    >> and still prefer it. It offers dozens of parameters for
    >> detailed application and its /clone parm works well.

    >
    > To do what you want though requires a "copy" function, not backup or
    > imaging. Then again, ANY of the backup/imaging programs let you see the
    > individual folders and files in Restore mode or even in Backup mode.


    But it will take a lot of time to restore multi-gig files right?
     

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