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Newsgroups disappeared from my OE

A

Adela

Flightless Bird
Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a popup
message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got rid
of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4
of them too. Now I only have left this one!

Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and don't
recall which others?

Thanks ever so much! Adela
 
R

ruic

Flightless Bird
Microsoft is moving their newsgroups to web forums.

Rui

"Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:%23J7RPmeHLHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a
> popup message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I
> got rid of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened
> with 3 or 4 of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>
> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
> don't recall which others?
>
> Thanks ever so much! Adela
>
 
R

Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 7/7/2010 10:32 AM, Adela wrote:
> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a popup
> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got rid
> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4
> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>
> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and don't
> recall which others?

Microsoft is closing their newsgroup server and encouraging everyone to
move over to their web forums instead. They are closing their
newsgroups in stages starting with the least active ones first, then
progressing to the more active newsgroups. If you don't want to use the
web forums, you can always switch over to a different newsgroup server
like aioe or eternal-september or any other free newsgroup server. Some
free newsgroup servers may require registering before you can receive
any of the newsgroups they carry.

If you want to participate in the web forums but would like to be able
to use your newsreader instead of the web interface, you can try one of
the NNTP bridge programs. The one I use and recommend is available here:

http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional

Timestamp: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:54:24 AM
 
A

Adela

Flightless Bird
Thank you Rui, at least now I know the whys! Is this an economy matter?
The reason I had the newsgroups in my OE in the first place was that I had
problems entering them through the web site, so now I have to go back to it?
:eek:) Adela


"ruic" <ruic@easthanovertownship.com> wrote in message
news:%23zckRreHLHA.5680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft is moving their newsgroups to web forums.
>
> Rui
>
> "Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23J7RPmeHLHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing,
>> including my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one
>> newsgroup, a popup message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't
>> exist, and when I got rid of the popup, it also took with it the
>> newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4 of them too. Now I only have left
>> this one!
>>
>> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
>> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
>> don't recall which others?
>>
>> Thanks ever so much! Adela
>>
>
>
 
A

Adela

Flightless Bird
Thank you Roy! Mystery resolved! :eek:) I had these newsgroups in my OE
because I had problems, though formally registered, to enter the web site
forums. Are they being moved to the same web site, or a new one?

However, I kind of liked having it in my OE so I'll follow your advice and
will try the aioe or eternal-september (and/or find others at googgle too?).
When I find another newsgroup should I FIRST delete the ones I have now? Or
delete them AFTER installing the new ones?

I don't know what NNTP bridge programs are, but I'll start trying the one
you recommend here: http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ .

Thank you very much again! :) Adela

P.S. I sent another message with my system info as I thought you'd need it,
so please disregard.




"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
news:6r1Zn.292515$iG7.117627@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 7/7/2010 10:32 AM, Adela wrote:
>> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing,
>> including
>> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a
>> popup
>> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got
>> rid
>> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or
>> 4
>> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>>
>> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
>> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
>> don't
>> recall which others?
>
> Microsoft is closing their newsgroup server and encouraging everyone to
> move over to their web forums instead. They are closing their
> newsgroups in stages starting with the least active ones first, then
> progressing to the more active newsgroups. If you don't want to use the
> web forums, you can always switch over to a different newsgroup server
> like aioe or eternal-september or any other free newsgroup server. Some
> free newsgroup servers may require registering before you can receive
> any of the newsgroups they carry.
>
> If you want to participate in the web forums but would like to be able
> to use your newsreader instead of the web interface, you can try one of
> the NNTP bridge programs. The one I use and recommend is available here:
>
> http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/
>
> --
>
> Roy Smith
> Windows 7 Professional
>
> Timestamp: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:54:24 AM
 
T

Tim Slattery

Flightless Bird
"Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote:

>Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
>my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a popup
>message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got rid
>of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4
>of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>
>Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
>retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and don't
>recall which others?

If you're getting those groups from Microsoft's server,
msnews.microsoft.com, then what OE is telling you is the simple truth.
MS is dropping its newsgroups. They are disappearing a bit at the
time, and yours is already gone.

But it's not entirely gone. Other Usenet servers still have the
groups. If your ISP has a server, the group is probably there. Other
servers exist, both paid and free. Check www.eternal-september.org for
a good free server.

--
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
G

Gib R. Ish

Flightless Bird
It's a control matter.

"Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:eXbH05eHLHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: Thank you Rui, at least now I know the whys! Is this an economy matter?
: The reason I had the newsgroups in my OE in the first place was that I had
: problems entering them through the web site, so now I have to go back to
it?
::eek:) Adela
:
:
: "ruic" <ruic@easthanovertownship.com> wrote in message
: news:%23zckRreHLHA.5680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > Microsoft is moving their newsgroups to web forums.
: >
: > Rui
: >
: > "Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message
: > news:%23J7RPmeHLHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: >> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing,
: >> including my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one
: >> newsgroup, a popup message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't
: >> exist, and when I got rid of the popup, it also took with it the
: >> newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4 of them too. Now I only have left
: >> this one!
: >>
: >> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
: >> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
: >> don't recall which others?
: >>
: >> Thanks ever so much! Adela
: >>
: >
: >
:
:
 
V

VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
Adela wrote:

> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a popup
> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got rid
> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4
> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>
> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and don't

Stop using Microsoft's NNTP server. Microsoft started their Usenet
usurping experiment about 4 years ago by providing a webnews-for-dummies
gateway from forums to Usenet. They decided to abandon that experiment
since they have no control over Usenet content outside of their own NNTP
server. They are now forcing their customers to move to the inane and
very underpowered web-based forums and for which there is there are many
newsgroups that have no matching counterpart in their forums.

The microsoft.public.* newsgroups will continue to exist in Usenet.
Microsoft is not Usenet, just another participant but who is leaving.
You will need to use a different NNTP server (many are free) since
Microsoft is going to drop theirs. Albasani and Eternal-September are
good free NSPs (newsgroup service providers) and carry more than just
the Microsoft newsgroups.

For Microsoft's propaganda regarding their abandoning newsgroups, read:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx
 
M

milt

Flightless Bird
On 7/7/2010 10:32 AM, Adela wrote:
> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a popup
> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got rid
> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4
> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>
> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and don't
> recall which others?
>
> Thanks ever so much! Adela
>
>

Microsoft is getting rid of all their newsgroups and eventually shutting
down the MS news server. They've already started wiping out grops, that
is probably what happened to those, by Oct. 1st, the server will be gone
along with those newsgroups. However, the newsgroups may still exist on
other news servers. You'll have to do a google search to see if they
might still be around.
 
J

JohnB

Flightless Bird
Will that bridge work with Outlook Express?

I just downloaded that bridge software and installed it. I got to the point
that it displays a bunch of Microsoft newsgroups. But I don't see anything
in the instructions on how to view those in OE.



"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
news:6r1Zn.292515$iG7.117627@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 7/7/2010 10:32 AM, Adela wrote:
>> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing,
>> including
>> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a
>> popup
>> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got
>> rid
>> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or
>> 4
>> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>>
>> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
>> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
>> don't
>> recall which others?
>
> Microsoft is closing their newsgroup server and encouraging everyone to
> move over to their web forums instead. They are closing their
> newsgroups in stages starting with the least active ones first, then
> progressing to the more active newsgroups. If you don't want to use the
> web forums, you can always switch over to a different newsgroup server
> like aioe or eternal-september or any other free newsgroup server. Some
> free newsgroup servers may require registering before you can receive
> any of the newsgroups they carry.
>
> If you want to participate in the web forums but would like to be able
> to use your newsreader instead of the web interface, you can try one of
> the NNTP bridge programs. The one I use and recommend is available here:
>
> http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/
>
> --
>
> Roy Smith
> Windows 7 Professional
>
> Timestamp: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:54:24 AM
 
M

milt

Flightless Bird
On 7/7/2010 11:07 AM, Adela wrote:
> Thank you Rui, at least now I know the whys! Is this an economy matter?
> The reason I had the newsgroups in my OE in the first place was that I had
> problems entering them through the web site, so now I have to go back to it?
> :eek:) Adela
>

No, its a "Microsoft wants more control and they can't get it on
newsgroups" matter. Its also a "Most of our users aren't smart enough to
access newsgroups because they can't just 'click here' to get them,
therefore they are lost, so we are putting them on the web" matter.
 
G

Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:eXbH05eHLHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Adela <nuevadela2@rcn.com> typed:

> ... Is this an economy
> matter? The reason I had the newsgroups in my OE in the first place
> was that I had problems entering them through the web site, so now I
> have to go back to it?

M$ "web forums" are NOT Usenet, despite their insistent propaganda.

Use a real Usenet server like http://individual.net - it's only 10
Euros/year. All your favourite newsgroups will continue without M$'s
interference.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Ridiculous. It is not a control matter. Be informed not opinionated.
"Gib R. Ish" <gib@ish.invalid> wrote in message
news:i129jc$2nk$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> It's a control matter.
>
> "Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:eXbH05eHLHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : Thank you Rui, at least now I know the whys! Is this an economy
> matter?
> : The reason I had the newsgroups in my OE in the first place was that I
> had
> : problems entering them through the web site, so now I have to go back to
> it?
> ::eek:) Adela
> :
> :
> : "ruic" <ruic@easthanovertownship.com> wrote in message
> : news:%23zckRreHLHA.5680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > Microsoft is moving their newsgroups to web forums.
> : >
> : > Rui
> : >
> : > "Adela" <nuevadela2@rcn.com> wrote in message
> : > news:%23J7RPmeHLHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : >> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing,
> : >> including my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one
> : >> newsgroup, a popup message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't
> : >> exist, and when I got rid of the popup, it also took with it the
> : >> newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4 of them too. Now I only have
> left
> : >> this one!
> : >>
> : >> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
> : >> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE
> and
> : >> don't recall which others?
> : >>
> : >> Thanks ever so much! Adela
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Get the facts instead of your opinions.
"milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
news:eGfNGRfHLHA.5680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> On 7/7/2010 11:07 AM, Adela wrote:
>> Thank you Rui, at least now I know the whys! Is this an economy matter?
>> The reason I had the newsgroups in my OE in the first place was that I
>> had
>> problems entering them through the web site, so now I have to go back to
>> it?
>> :eek:) Adela
>>
>
> No, its a "Microsoft wants more control and they can't get it on
> newsgroups" matter. Its also a "Most of our users aren't smart enough to
> access newsgroups because they can't just 'click here' to get them,
> therefore they are lost, so we are putting them on the web" matter.
 
G

Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:uFSq0hfHLHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Ridiculous. It is not a control matter. Be informed not opinionated.

Laughable. If one depends on M$ for their information, they are brainwashed,
not informed.
 
S

Steve Cochran

Flightless Bird
After starting the Answers Bridge, then go to Tools | Accounts | Add | News and add the server 127.0.0.1. Then download the NGs from that server and you can then read the messages and post, but you have to be logged onto the Bridge first. Be prepared for bugs, if you are unfamiliar with Microsoft.

steve

"JohnB" <jbrigan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eM8D%23QfHLHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Will that bridge work with Outlook Express?
>
> I just downloaded that bridge software and installed it. I got to the point
> that it displays a bunch of Microsoft newsgroups. But I don't see anything
> in the instructions on how to view those in OE.
>
>
>
> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
> news:6r1Zn.292515$iG7.117627@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 7/7/2010 10:32 AM, Adela wrote:
>>> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing,
>>> including
>>> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a
>>> popup
>>> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got
>>> rid
>>> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or
>>> 4
>>> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>>>
>>> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
>>> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
>>> don't
>>> recall which others?
>>
>> Microsoft is closing their newsgroup server and encouraging everyone to
>> move over to their web forums instead. They are closing their
>> newsgroups in stages starting with the least active ones first, then
>> progressing to the more active newsgroups. If you don't want to use the
>> web forums, you can always switch over to a different newsgroup server
>> like aioe or eternal-september or any other free newsgroup server. Some
>> free newsgroup servers may require registering before you can receive
>> any of the newsgroups they carry.
>>
>> If you want to participate in the web forums but would like to be able
>> to use your newsreader instead of the web interface, you can try one of
>> the NNTP bridge programs. The one I use and recommend is available here:
>>
>> http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/
>>
>> --
>>
>> Roy Smith
>> Windows 7 Professional
>>
>> Timestamp: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:54:24 AM
>
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
See...

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

OE General, IE General, and Windows Updates newsgroups were dropped from the
MS newsserver earlier this week, Adela.

These forums replace all WinXP newsgroups:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

You'll find your friend Bruce Hagen in this forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

You will find support for Internet Explorer in this forum now:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

NOTE: Always state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; WinXP 64-bit
SP2; Vista SP1; Vista 64-bit SP2; Win7; Win7 64-bit) as well as your current
IE version (e.g., IE6, IE7, IE8) in your first post.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Adela wrote:
> Hello, several of my newsgroups I had on my OE are disappearing, including
> my Outlook Express 6.0 newsgroup...When I clicked on one newsgroup, a
> popup
> message said it doesn't recognioze it or doesn't exist, and when I got rid
> of the popup, it also took with it the newsgroup. It happened with 3 or 4
> of them too. Now I only have left this one!
>
> Anyone could tell me what's happened here? And do you think I could
> retrieve the other newsgroups I had like the Internet Explorer, OE and
> don't
> recall which others?
>
> Thanks ever so much! Adela
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
There's an opinion again! Geeeeeeeeeeeeze!
"Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
news:89jul1FvsU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:uFSq0hfHLHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> Ridiculous. It is not a control matter. Be informed not opinionated.
>
> Laughable. If one depends on M$ for their information, they are
> brainwashed,
> not informed.
>
>
 
N

N. Miller

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:20:00 -0500, Unknown wrote:

> Get the facts instead of your opinions.

The facts are what they are. Microsoft has less control over the Usenet than
they have over their own web servers. So, yes, it is all about control.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
 
G

Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:-ONOGaahHLHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:

[top-posting context restored]

>>> Ridiculous. It is not a control matter. Be informed not opinionated.
>>
>> Laughable. If one depends on M$ for their information, they are
>> brainwashed, not informed.
>
> There's an opinion again! Geeeeeeeeeeeeze!

There's your own braimwashed idiocy again.
 
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