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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by George Mooth, Aug 22, 2010.

  1. George Mooth

    George Mooth Flightless Bird

    Are there any free news servers available?

    Thank you,
    Geo.
     
  2. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
    >
    > Are there any free news servers available?
    >
    > Thank you,
    > Geo.


    Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on how
    you post and the second requires registration.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  3. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:c1q2761emeg12ofo7bigfb5b4ghja44bke@4ax.com,
    George Mooth typed on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:11:53 -0400:
    > Are there any free news servers available?
    >
    > Thank you,
    > Geo.


    Did you just want to just read or also post? If you want to post too, I
    like:

    nntp.eternal-september.org

    You do have to register once and I forget if you have to pay a one time
    fee of something like 5 bucks or something.

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    Nope, it looks like it is totally free. It is one of the most reliable
    free ones that I have found.

    --
    Bill
    Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
     
  4. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    George Mooth wrote:

    > Are there any free news servers available?


    Free NSPs:
    Albasani (very reliable)
    Eternal-September (was Motzarella, also very good)
    AIOE (flaky, often down, owner employs odd anti-abuse policies that
    often interfere with its use and generate bogus errors)
    Teranews (flaky, sometimes down, slow to present submitted posts)

    Cheap NSPs:
    individual.net ($16USD/yr, ran by Berlin university)

    Some free NSPs still require that you register to use their service
    (i.e., you must signin using an account instead of anonymous with no
    login). All the free servers only carry text groups. After all, they
    are forking out the money to provide the service from their own pockets
    and can't afford the bandwidth or disk space for all the porn. If you
    want binary groups then you have to buy access or bandwidth bundles from
    commercial NSPs.

    A good place to ask about free NSPs is in alt.free.newsservers.
     
  5. Craven Moorehead

    Craven Moorehead Flightless Bird

    Ever heard of Google?

    "George Mooth" <gmoothdoh@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:c1q2761emeg12ofo7bigfb5b4ghja44bke@4ax.com...
    >
    > Are there any free news servers available?
    >
    > Thank you,
    > Geo.
     
  6. Greg Russell

    Greg Russell Flightless Bird

    In news:i4tr82$3gd$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    Craven Moorehead <craven@cmoorehead.invalid> typed:

    > Ever heard of Google?


    Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.

    Get a *real* Usenet news server such as http://individual.net and configure
    your favourite NNTP client to access it with your username and password on
    port 119 at news.individual.net

    You'll get full access to every known newsgroup, binaries included. Sure it
    costs 10 Euro per year, but if one can't afford that trifling sum then you
    ought to just stop at home.
     
  7. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Why is it the WORST THING that ever happened to Usenet? They are not
    connected.
    What if you don't have Euros?
    "Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
    news:8dfo4uF59aU1@mid.individual.net...
    > In news:i4tr82$3gd$1@news.eternal-september.org,
    > Craven Moorehead <craven@cmoorehead.invalid> typed:
    >
    >> Ever heard of Google?

    >
    > Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.
    >
    > Get a *real* Usenet news server such as http://individual.net and
    > configure
    > your favourite NNTP client to access it with your username and password on
    > port 119 at news.individual.net
    >
    > You'll get full access to every known newsgroup, binaries included. Sure
    > it
    > costs 10 Euro per year, but if one can't afford that trifling sum then you
    > ought to just stop at home.
    >
    >
     
  8. Greg Russell

    Greg Russell Flightless Bird

    In news:#Qi6QruQLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
    Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:

    [top-posting context restored]

    >>> Ever heard of Google?

    >> Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.

    >
    > Why is it the WORST THING that ever happened to Usenet? They are not
    > connected.


    They are indeed connected. This thread deals with news server(s), in case
    you hadn't read the Subject: line. Google's news server is definitely the
    worst thing that ever happened to Usenet, as it is the largest source of
    Usenet spam ever. There is no "abuse" policy enforced either, so reporting
    such spamming falls on deaf ears.
     
  9. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Why on earth do you use it (Google) then? Why not ignore them?
    "Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
    news:8dfrb4FpduU1@mid.individual.net...
    > In news:#Qi6QruQLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
    > Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:
    >
    > [top-posting context restored]
    >
    >>>> Ever heard of Google?
    >>> Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.

    >>
    >> Why is it the WORST THING that ever happened to Usenet? They are not
    >> connected.

    >
    > They are indeed connected. This thread deals with news server(s), in case
    > you hadn't read the Subject: line. Google's news server is definitely the
    > worst thing that ever happened to Usenet, as it is the largest source of
    > Usenet spam ever. There is no "abuse" policy enforced either, so reporting
    > such spamming falls on deaf ears.
    >
    >
     
  10. Iceman

    Iceman Flightless Bird

    In this group Peter Taylor wrote in message
    news:i4rpv2$1an$1@news.eternal-september.org

    > On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
    >>
    >> Are there any free news servers available?
    >>
    >> Thank you,
    >> Geo.

    >
    > Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on
    > how you post and the second requires registration.


    Below is a link to AIOE's user policy. I wouldn't call it particularly
    "picky" and it has proved pretty reliable to me. The posting limit is set to
    25 messages per day for each ISP address, which most users should be able to
    live with.

    http://aioe.org/index.php?terms-of-use
     
  11. Peter

    Peter Flightless Bird

    Iceman wrote:
    > In this group Peter Taylor wrote in message
    > news:i4rpv2$1an$1@news.eternal-september.org
    >
    >> On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Are there any free news servers available?
    >>>
    >>> Thank you,
    >>> Geo.

    >>
    >> Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on
    >> how you post and the second requires registration.

    >
    > Below is a link to AIOE's user policy. I wouldn't call it particularly
    > "picky" and it has proved pretty reliable to me. The posting limit is set to
    > 25 messages per day for each ISP address, which most users should be able to
    > live with.
    >
    > http://aioe.org/index.php?terms-of-use
    >
    >


    I use it.

    --
    Peter
     
  12. Greg Russell

    Greg Russell Flightless Bird

    In news:elq7f5uQLHA.6004@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:

    > Why on earth do you use it (Google) then? Why not ignore them?


    You don't even have any idea WTF you're talking, do ya?
     
  13. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    Unknown wrote:

    > Why on earth do you use it (Google) then? Why not ignore them?


    A boob speaketh. Geez, you haven't a clue how peering works amongst the
    worldwide mesh network of NNTP servers that is Usenet, do you? Google
    Groups doesn't just archive newsgroups. Users can also *post* using
    Google Groups. Because anyone can signup for a Google account then
    anyone, especially spammers (and boobs which, unbelievable as it might
    seem, are more ignorant than are you), can use Google Groups to post.
    Those posts get peered to all the NNTP servers that carry the same
    newsgroups. Apparently you haven't a clue how to detect Google Groupers
    by looking at the headers of posts. You can't even figure out a unique
    moniker to use for yourself here.

    It's not a question of someone using Google Groups. Greg is using
    Microsoft's NNTP server (which will eventually get killed off as
    Microsoft scrambles away from Usenet) and I'm using Albasani. Other
    visitors might be using Giganews, EasyNews, UsenetServer, Teranews, or
    dozens and dozens of other NSP *besides* Google Groups. The problem is
    that we have to see the boobs and spammer that post using Google Groups
    because those posts get peered to other NSPs in the same newsgroups.

    What is Usenet:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
    http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
    http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp
     
  14. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    Iceman wrote:

    > In this group Peter Taylor wrote in message
    > news:i4rpv2$1an$1@news.eternal-september.org
    >
    >> On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Are there any free news servers available?
    >>>
    >>> Thank you,
    >>> Geo.

    >>
    >> Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on
    >> how you post and the second requires registration.

    >
    > Below is a link to AIOE's user policy. I wouldn't call it particularly
    > "picky" and it has proved pretty reliable to me. The posting limit is set to
    > 25 messages per day for each ISP address, which most users should be able to
    > live with.
    >
    > http://aioe.org/index.php?terms-of-use


    The owner of AIOE does *not* publish all his algorithms that he employs
    on his NNTP server. Only a couple are listed. Only when you hit a
    problem and query the owner do you then discover there are other
    non-published policies regarding the use of his server.
     
  15. ju.c

    ju.c Flightless Bird

  16. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover Flightless Bird

    How can you prove it's the best?

    "ju.c" <bibidybubidyboop@mailinator.com> wrote in message
    news:uPKqtSQRLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > The best free and open public news server is "freenews.netfront.net".
    >
    > Here are some help pages:
    >
    > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
    > http://www.binaryfeeds.com/
    > http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/
    >
    >
    > ju.c
    >
    >
    > "George Mooth" <gmoothdoh@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:c1q2761emeg12ofo7bigfb5b4ghja44bke@4ax.com...
    >>
    >> Are there any free news servers available?
    >>
    >> Thank you,
    >> Geo.
     
  17. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    Ben Dover wrote:

    > ju.c wrote ...
    >
    >> George Mooth wrote...
    >>
    >>> Are there any free news servers available?

    >>
    >> The best free and open public news server is "freenews.netfront.net".

    >
    > How can you prove it's the best?


    He doesn't believe himself since he posted using Microsoft's NNTP server
    (where sometimes posts are accepted [submitted] but are later rejected
    if they run afoul of Microsoft's "odd" filtering) - and which is
    eventually going away as Microsoft leaves Usenet.
     
  18. Iceman

    Iceman Flightless Bird

  19. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    VanguardLH wrote:

    > George Mooth wrote:
    >
    >> Are there any free news servers available?

    >
    > Free NSPs:
    > Albasani (very reliable)
    > Eternal-September (was Motzarella, also very good)
    > AIOE (flaky, often down, owner employs odd anti-abuse policies that
    > often interfere with its use and generate bogus errors)
    > Teranews (flaky, sometimes down, slow to present submitted posts)
    >
    > Cheap NSPs:
    > individual.net ($16USD/yr, ran by Berlin university)
    >
    > Some free NSPs still require that you register to use their service
    > (i.e., you must signin using an account instead of anonymous with no
    > login). All the free servers only carry text groups. After all, they
    > are forking out the money to provide the service from their own pockets
    > and can't afford the bandwidth or disk space for all the porn. If you
    > want binary groups then you have to buy access or bandwidth bundles from
    > commercial NSPs.
    >
    > A good place to ask about free NSPs is in alt.free.newsservers.


    Forgot to mention that newzbot will find newsservers that carry a
    particular newsgroup (but it lists an awful lot of crappy servers):

    http://www.newzbot.com/
     

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