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George Mooth

Flightless Bird
Are there any free news servers available?

Thank you,
Geo.
 
P

Peter Taylor

Flightless Bird
On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
>
> Are there any free news servers available?
>
> Thank you,
> Geo.

Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on how
you post and the second requires registration.

--
Peter Taylor
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:c1q2761emeg12ofo7bigfb5b4ghja44bke@4ax.com,
George Mooth typed on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:11:53 -0400:
> Are there any free news servers available?
>
> Thank you,
> Geo.

Did you just want to just read or also post? If you want to post too, I
like:

nntp.eternal-september.org

You do have to register once and I forget if you have to pay a one time
fee of something like 5 bucks or something.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

Nope, it looks like it is totally free. It is one of the most reliable
free ones that I have found.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2
 
V

VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
George Mooth wrote:

> Are there any free news servers available?

Free NSPs:
Albasani (very reliable)
Eternal-September (was Motzarella, also very good)
AIOE (flaky, often down, owner employs odd anti-abuse policies that
often interfere with its use and generate bogus errors)
Teranews (flaky, sometimes down, slow to present submitted posts)

Cheap NSPs:
individual.net ($16USD/yr, ran by Berlin university)

Some free NSPs still require that you register to use their service
(i.e., you must signin using an account instead of anonymous with no
login). All the free servers only carry text groups. After all, they
are forking out the money to provide the service from their own pockets
and can't afford the bandwidth or disk space for all the porn. If you
want binary groups then you have to buy access or bandwidth bundles from
commercial NSPs.

A good place to ask about free NSPs is in alt.free.newsservers.
 
C

Craven Moorehead

Flightless Bird
Ever heard of Google?

"George Mooth" <gmoothdoh@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:c1q2761emeg12ofo7bigfb5b4ghja44bke@4ax.com...
>
> Are there any free news servers available?
>
> Thank you,
> Geo.
 
G

Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:i4tr82$3gd$1@news.eternal-september.org,
Craven Moorehead <craven@cmoorehead.invalid> typed:

> Ever heard of Google?

Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.

Get a *real* Usenet news server such as http://individual.net and configure
your favourite NNTP client to access it with your username and password on
port 119 at news.individual.net

You'll get full access to every known newsgroup, binaries included. Sure it
costs 10 Euro per year, but if one can't afford that trifling sum then you
ought to just stop at home.
 
U

Unknown

Flightless Bird
Why is it the WORST THING that ever happened to Usenet? They are not
connected.
What if you don't have Euros?
"Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
news:8dfo4uF59aU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:i4tr82$3gd$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> Craven Moorehead <craven@cmoorehead.invalid> typed:
>
>> Ever heard of Google?
>
> Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.
>
> Get a *real* Usenet news server such as http://individual.net and
> configure
> your favourite NNTP client to access it with your username and password on
> port 119 at news.individual.net
>
> You'll get full access to every known newsgroup, binaries included. Sure
> it
> costs 10 Euro per year, but if one can't afford that trifling sum then you
> ought to just stop at home.
>
>
 
G

Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:#Qi6QruQLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:

[top-posting context restored]

>>> Ever heard of Google?
>> Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.
>
> Why is it the WORST THING that ever happened to Usenet? They are not
> connected.

They are indeed connected. This thread deals with news server(s), in case
you hadn't read the Subject: line. Google's news server is definitely the
worst thing that ever happened to Usenet, as it is the largest source of
Usenet spam ever. There is no "abuse" policy enforced either, so reporting
such spamming falls on deaf ears.
 
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Unknown

Flightless Bird
Why on earth do you use it (Google) then? Why not ignore them?
"Greg Russell" <grussell@example.con> wrote in message
news:8dfrb4FpduU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:#Qi6QruQLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:
>
> [top-posting context restored]
>
>>>> Ever heard of Google?
>>> Yes, it's definitely the *worst* thing that ever happened to Usenet.
>>
>> Why is it the WORST THING that ever happened to Usenet? They are not
>> connected.
>
> They are indeed connected. This thread deals with news server(s), in case
> you hadn't read the Subject: line. Google's news server is definitely the
> worst thing that ever happened to Usenet, as it is the largest source of
> Usenet spam ever. There is no "abuse" policy enforced either, so reporting
> such spamming falls on deaf ears.
>
>
 
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Iceman

Flightless Bird
In this group Peter Taylor wrote in message
news:i4rpv2$1an$1@news.eternal-september.org

> On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
>>
>> Are there any free news servers available?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Geo.
>
> Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on
> how you post and the second requires registration.

Below is a link to AIOE's user policy. I wouldn't call it particularly
"picky" and it has proved pretty reliable to me. The posting limit is set to
25 messages per day for each ISP address, which most users should be able to
live with.

http://aioe.org/index.php?terms-of-use
 
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Peter

Flightless Bird
Iceman wrote:
> In this group Peter Taylor wrote in message
> news:i4rpv2$1an$1@news.eternal-september.org
>
>> On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any free news servers available?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Geo.
>>
>> Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on
>> how you post and the second requires registration.
>
> Below is a link to AIOE's user policy. I wouldn't call it particularly
> "picky" and it has proved pretty reliable to me. The posting limit is set to
> 25 messages per day for each ISP address, which most users should be able to
> live with.
>
> http://aioe.org/index.php?terms-of-use
>
>

I use it.

--
Peter
 
G

Greg Russell

Flightless Bird
In news:elq7f5uQLHA.6004@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> typed:

> Why on earth do you use it (Google) then? Why not ignore them?

You don't even have any idea WTF you're talking, do ya?
 
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VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
Unknown wrote:

> Why on earth do you use it (Google) then? Why not ignore them?

A boob speaketh. Geez, you haven't a clue how peering works amongst the
worldwide mesh network of NNTP servers that is Usenet, do you? Google
Groups doesn't just archive newsgroups. Users can also *post* using
Google Groups. Because anyone can signup for a Google account then
anyone, especially spammers (and boobs which, unbelievable as it might
seem, are more ignorant than are you), can use Google Groups to post.
Those posts get peered to all the NNTP servers that carry the same
newsgroups. Apparently you haven't a clue how to detect Google Groupers
by looking at the headers of posts. You can't even figure out a unique
moniker to use for yourself here.

It's not a question of someone using Google Groups. Greg is using
Microsoft's NNTP server (which will eventually get killed off as
Microsoft scrambles away from Usenet) and I'm using Albasani. Other
visitors might be using Giganews, EasyNews, UsenetServer, Teranews, or
dozens and dozens of other NSP *besides* Google Groups. The problem is
that we have to see the boobs and spammer that post using Google Groups
because those posts get peered to other NSPs in the same newsgroups.

What is Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp
 
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VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
Iceman wrote:

> In this group Peter Taylor wrote in message
> news:i4rpv2$1an$1@news.eternal-september.org
>
>> On 8/22/2010 8:11 PM, George Mooth wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any free news servers available?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Geo.
>>
>> Yes, aioe.org and eternal-september.org. The first is kinda picky on
>> how you post and the second requires registration.
>
> Below is a link to AIOE's user policy. I wouldn't call it particularly
> "picky" and it has proved pretty reliable to me. The posting limit is set to
> 25 messages per day for each ISP address, which most users should be able to
> live with.
>
> http://aioe.org/index.php?terms-of-use

The owner of AIOE does *not* publish all his algorithms that he employs
on his NNTP server. Only a couple are listed. Only when you hit a
problem and query the owner do you then discover there are other
non-published policies regarding the use of his server.
 
B

Ben Dover

Flightless Bird
How can you prove it's the best?

"ju.c" <bibidybubidyboop@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:uPKqtSQRLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The best free and open public news server is "freenews.netfront.net".
>
> Here are some help pages:
>
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
> http://www.binaryfeeds.com/
> http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/
>
>
> ju.c
>
>
> "George Mooth" <gmoothdoh@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:c1q2761emeg12ofo7bigfb5b4ghja44bke@4ax.com...
>>
>> Are there any free news servers available?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Geo.
 
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VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
Ben Dover wrote:

> ju.c wrote ...
>
>> George Mooth wrote...
>>
>>> Are there any free news servers available?
>>
>> The best free and open public news server is "freenews.netfront.net".
>
> How can you prove it's the best?

He doesn't believe himself since he posted using Microsoft's NNTP server
(where sometimes posts are accepted [submitted] but are later rejected
if they run afoul of Microsoft's "odd" filtering) - and which is
eventually going away as Microsoft leaves Usenet.
 
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VanguardLH

Flightless Bird
VanguardLH wrote:

> George Mooth wrote:
>
>> Are there any free news servers available?
>
> Free NSPs:
> Albasani (very reliable)
> Eternal-September (was Motzarella, also very good)
> AIOE (flaky, often down, owner employs odd anti-abuse policies that
> often interfere with its use and generate bogus errors)
> Teranews (flaky, sometimes down, slow to present submitted posts)
>
> Cheap NSPs:
> individual.net ($16USD/yr, ran by Berlin university)
>
> Some free NSPs still require that you register to use their service
> (i.e., you must signin using an account instead of anonymous with no
> login). All the free servers only carry text groups. After all, they
> are forking out the money to provide the service from their own pockets
> and can't afford the bandwidth or disk space for all the porn. If you
> want binary groups then you have to buy access or bandwidth bundles from
> commercial NSPs.
>
> A good place to ask about free NSPs is in alt.free.newsservers.

Forgot to mention that newzbot will find newsservers that carry a
particular newsgroup (but it lists an awful lot of crappy servers):

http://www.newzbot.com/
 
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