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News reader for Win7

S

Sunny

Flightless Bird
For use on a "Netbook" ?
With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
live Mail as a news reader?
My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
be re-directed web based "forums")
 
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Bob Hatch

Flightless Bird
On 7/13/2010 11:56 PM, Sunny wrote:
> For use on a "Netbook" ?
> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
> live Mail as a news reader?
> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
> be re-directed web based "forums")
>
>


Lots of people are using WLM. I tried it and didn't like it. I then
tried Thunderbird as well as a couple of others like Agent. Thunderbird
was the one I settled on. It's easy to use and the cost is right. :)


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will not do. There are jobs Americans
will not be hired for because an
illegal alien has taken it."

"Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:56:07 +1000, Sunny wrote:


> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability
> is restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will
> soon be re-directed web based "forums")



Don't know where you got that from. Any newsreader will connect to any
NNTP server...
 
S

Sunny

Flightless Bird
"Bob Hatch" <bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
news:4c3d63aa$0$32374$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On 7/13/2010 11:56 PM, Sunny wrote:
>> For use on a "Netbook" ?
>> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
>> live Mail as a news reader?
>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability
>> is
>> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will
>> soon
>> be re-directed web based "forums")
>>
>>

>
> Lots of people are using WLM. I tried it and didn't like it. I then
> tried Thunderbird as well as a couple of others like Agent. Thunderbird
> was the one I settled on. It's easy to use and the cost is right. :)


Thanks, Looks like I have to use Agent or Thunderbird then :)
Are they both OK as e-mail programs as well ?

She who must be obeyed now has an iPod touch and IPad for travelling, and
needs a wifi point for e-mail access using Outlook, I use a Netbook that
can use wifi or Ethernet access, but it comes with Win7 and no e-mail/news
reader programs. My home computers use WinXP.
 
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Tom Lake

Flightless Bird
"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:kcd%n.819$Yv.786@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
> For use on a "Netbook" ?
> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
> live Mail as a news reader?
> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
> be re-directed web based "forums")


WLM can use any news server. Where did you get the idea it's restricted?
I like it because it's free and it works the same as Outlook Express.

Tom L
 
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Rodney Pont

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:18:55 +0000 (UTC), Gordon wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:56:07 +1000, Sunny wrote:
>
>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability
>> is restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will
>> soon be re-directed web based "forums")

>
>Don't know where you got that from. Any newsreader will connect to any
>NNTP server...


I'll back that up. I'm using WLM for my news on W7 and am not using the
microsoft news servers.

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Gordon

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:49:10 -0400, Tom Lake wrote:

> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:kcd%n.819$Yv.786@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>> For use on a "Netbook" ?
>> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
>> live Mail as a news reader?
>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability
>> is restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which
>> will soon be re-directed web based "forums")

>
> WLM can use any news server. Where did you get the idea it's
> restricted? I like it because it's free and it works the same as Outlook
> Express.
>
> Tom L


Except beware of the new Beta version - it's considerably different.



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Bob Hatch

Flightless Bird
On 7/14/2010 12:25 AM, Sunny wrote:
> "Bob Hatch"<bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:4c3d63aa$0$32374$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 7/13/2010 11:56 PM, Sunny wrote:
>>> For use on a "Netbook" ?
>>> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
>>> live Mail as a news reader?
>>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability
>>> is
>>> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will
>>> soon
>>> be re-directed web based "forums")
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Lots of people are using WLM. I tried it and didn't like it. I then
>> tried Thunderbird as well as a couple of others like Agent. Thunderbird
>> was the one I settled on. It's easy to use and the cost is right. :)

>
> Thanks, Looks like I have to use Agent or Thunderbird then :)
> Are they both OK as e-mail programs as well ?
>
> She who must be obeyed now has an iPod touch and IPad for travelling, and
> needs a wifi point for e-mail access using Outlook, I use a Netbook that
> can use wifi or Ethernet access, but it comes with Win7 and no e-mail/news
> reader programs. My home computers use WinXP.
>
>


Both can be used as email programs. Agent is no free, T-Bird is. That
said I don't like to use the same program for email and newsgroups. Just
my quirky style. I use Outlook for email, T-Bird for newsgroups.


--
"There are no jobs that Americans
will not do. There are jobs Americans
will not be hired for because an
illegal alien has taken it."

"Illegal Alien = Job Thief"

http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com
http://www.keepazsafe.com/
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:32:41 -0700, Bob Hatch wrote:

> On 7/14/2010 12:25 AM, Sunny wrote:
>> "Bob Hatch"<bob.hatch@ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c3d63aa$0$32374$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 7/13/2010 11:56 PM, Sunny wrote:
>>>> For use on a "Netbook" ?
>>>> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using
>>>> Windows live Mail as a news reader?
>>>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader
>>>> capability is
>>>> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will
>>>> soon
>>>> be re-directed web based "forums")
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lots of people are using WLM. I tried it and didn't like it. I then
>>> tried Thunderbird as well as a couple of others like Agent.
>>> Thunderbird was the one I settled on. It's easy to use and the cost is
>>> right. :)

>>
>> Thanks, Looks like I have to use Agent or Thunderbird then :) Are they
>> both OK as e-mail programs as well ?
>>
>> She who must be obeyed now has an iPod touch and IPad for travelling,
>> and needs a wifi point for e-mail access using Outlook, I use a Netbook
>> that can use wifi or Ethernet access, but it comes with Win7 and no
>> e-mail/news reader programs. My home computers use WinXP.
>>
>>
>>

> Both can be used as email programs. Agent is no free, T-Bird is. That
> said I don't like to use the same program for email and newsgroups. Just
> my quirky style. I use Outlook for email, T-Bird for newsgroups.


The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
filtering system is crippled for news messages...
 
S

Sunny Bard

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:

> The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
> filtering system is crippled for news messages...


Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it though.
 
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Slap

Flightless Bird
"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:kcd%n.819$Yv.786@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
> For use on a "Netbook" ?
> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
> live Mail as a news reader?
> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
> be re-directed web based "forums")
>


Windows Live Mail works fine as a news reader. It has no restrictions and
looks and feels like the old Express. You just set up your account(s) like
you did in Express.
--
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:56:07 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>For use on a "Netbook" ?
>With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
>live Mail as a news reader?
>My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
>restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
>be re-directed web based "forums")
>
>
>
>


I have been using Agent for news and e-mail since 1995 with every
version of Windows and nothing in W7 has made me want to change that.

Microsoft's stupid move to web forums won't make any difference to me
either as I find all web forums slow and clumsy relative to NNTP
groups.

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com
 
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News123

Flightless Bird
Sunny Bard wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>
>> The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
>> filtering system is crippled for news messages...

>
> Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
> compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it though.


Is there any filtering in TB for usenet?

I'd be glad to add kill file entries for some users or topics,
(especially since I subscribe to slighly noisier groups) , but don't
know how to do it with TB
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 07/14/2010 01:03 PM, News123 wrote:
> Sunny Bard wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
>>> filtering system is crippled for news messages...

>>
>> Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
>> compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it though.

>
> Is there any filtering in TB for usenet?
>
> I'd be glad to add kill file entries for some users or topics,
> (especially since I subscribe to slighly noisier groups) , but don't
> know how to do it with TB


Select a message from someone you want to kill file and then go to
Message/Create filter from message ... and it's self explanatory from there.

--
Alias
 
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Sunny Bard

Flightless Bird
News123 wrote:

> Is there any filtering in TB for usenet?


Tools, Message Filters, select relevant group, add one or more filters,
for each filter match on one or more criteria and specify one or more
actions ...
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
News123 wrote:
> Sunny Bard wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
>>> filtering system is crippled for news messages...

>> Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
>> compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it though.

>
> Is there any filtering in TB for usenet?
>
> I'd be glad to add kill file entries for some users or topics,
> (especially since I subscribe to slighly noisier groups) , but don't
> know how to do it with TB


Actually fairly easy:
Load msg from idiot, right click on From (it is in blue), get drop down
list, last choice is "Create filter..". You do not need to type anything.
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:56:07 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> For use on a "Netbook" ?
>> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
>> live Mail as a news reader?
>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
>> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
>> be re-directed web based "forums")
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> I have been using Agent for news and e-mail since 1995 with every
> version of Windows and nothing in W7 has made me want to change that.
>
> Microsoft's stupid move to web forums won't make any difference to me
> either as I find all web forums slow and clumsy relative to NNTP
> groups.
>
> Steve
>

Yabut many of the newsgroups have become full of trolls
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:49:36 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>News123 wrote:
>> Sunny Bard wrote:
>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
>>>> filtering system is crippled for news messages...
>>> Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
>>> compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it though.

>>
>> Is there any filtering in TB for usenet?
>>
>> I'd be glad to add kill file entries for some users or topics,
>> (especially since I subscribe to slighly noisier groups) , but don't
>> know how to do it with TB

>
>Actually fairly easy:
>Load msg from idiot, right click on From (it is in blue), get drop down
>list, last choice is "Create filter..". You do not need to type anything.


It's even easier with Agent. Ctrl K

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:51:15 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:56:07 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For use on a "Netbook" ?
>>> With the demise of Outlook Express in Windows7 is anyone using Windows
>>> live Mail as a news reader?
>>> My searching so far seems to point that the only news reader capability is
>>> restricted to the soon to defunked microsoft news server. (Which will soon
>>> be re-directed web based "forums")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I have been using Agent for news and e-mail since 1995 with every
>> version of Windows and nothing in W7 has made me want to change that.
>>
>> Microsoft's stupid move to web forums won't make any difference to me
>> either as I find all web forums slow and clumsy relative to NNTP
>> groups.
>>
>> Steve
>>

>Yabut many of the newsgroups have become full of trolls


It's trivial to filter out trolls. Far more easy than looking for
changes in forums.

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com
 
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News123

Flightless Bird
Thanks a lot for all your answers.


I'm quiet embarrassed, that I never stumbled over it so far, as it is
really quite easy.

It seems, that somehow I never clicked on the message menu.

I tried 'right-clicking on the message' forgetting, that the right click
menus are very often a littlre reduced in features.


Thanks again an happy news reading :)


Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:49:36 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> News123 wrote:
>>> Sunny Bard wrote:
>>>> Gordon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only real problem with using TBird for newsgroups is that its
>>>>> filtering system is crippled for news messages...
>>>> Slightly less crippled in TB3.x than previous versions, but still poor
>>>> compared to most other newsreaders, doesn't stop me using it though.
>>> Is there any filtering in TB for usenet?
>>>
>>> I'd be glad to add kill file entries for some users or topics,
>>> (especially since I subscribe to slighly noisier groups) , but don't
>>> know how to do it with TB

>> Actually fairly easy:
>> Load msg from idiot, right click on From (it is in blue), get drop down
>> list, last choice is "Create filter..". You do not need to type anything.

>
> It's even easier with Agent. Ctrl K
>
> Steve
>
 
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