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Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Brian, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. Brian

    Brian Flightless Bird

    I have five XP computers on a wired peer-to-peer network. One computer acts
    simply as a print server, and the internet is excluded from it.

    I have now installed Windows 7 on one of the computers, but whilst it can access
    the XP computers on the network, including the one that acts as a print server, it
    will not connect to any printer. Instead it gives a message to the effect that
    the print spooler service is not running on the print server. However, I have
    checked the print server XP computer and the print spooler service is running (it
    starts automatically) and also its helper RPC service is running (also starting
    automatically).

    Any suggestions about what I should try would be very welcome.

    Kind regards

    Brian
     
  2. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 8/11/2010 5:53 AM, Brian wrote:
    > I have five XP computers on a wired peer-to-peer network. One computer acts
    > simply as a print server, and the internet is excluded from it.
    >
    > I have now installed Windows 7 on one of the computers, but whilst it can access
    > the XP computers on the network, including the one that acts as a print server, it
    > will not connect to any printer. Instead it gives a message to the effect that
    > the print spooler service is not running on the print server. However, I have
    > checked the print server XP computer and the print spooler service is running (it
    > starts automatically) and also its helper RPC service is running (also starting
    > automatically).
    >
    > Any suggestions about what I should try would be very welcome.
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Brian
    >


    Microsoft networking problems are solved by voodoo magic. You sacrifice
    a chicken to the angel Baron Samedi, and he gets you an audience with
    god Bon Dieu. :)

    What you have to do actually is a little weird. You don't set up a
    network printer in W7, you setup a "local" printer connected through a
    network port. So basically when you're going through the add a printer
    wizard, you will choose "add local printer". You will then choose to
    "create a new port". Here you will then choose "standard tcp/ip port",
    and then type in the full printer share name, like "\\xpcomputer\xpprinter".

    Yousuf Khan

    Networking from Printer attached to Win XP PC to Win 7 - Windows 7 Forums
    http://www.sevenforums.com/network-sharing/7527-networking-printer-attached-win-xp-pc-win-7-a.html
     
  3. Brian

    Brian Flightless Bird

    In article <4c6346ae$1@news.bnb-lp.com>, bbbl67@yahoo.com (Yousuf Khan) wrote:

    > *From:-* Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com>
    > *Date:-* Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:56:14 -0400
    >
    > On 8/11/2010 5:53 AM, Brian wrote:
    > > I have five XP computers on a wired peer-to-peer network. One
    > > computer acts
    > > simply as a print server, and the internet is excluded from it.
    > >
    > > I have now installed Windows 7 on one of the computers, but
    > > whilst it can access
    > > the XP computers on the network, including the one that acts as a
    > > print server, it
    > > will not connect to any printer. Instead it gives a message to
    > > the effect that
    > > the print spooler service is not running on the print server.
    > > However, I have
    > > checked the print server XP computer and the print spooler
    > > service is running (it
    > > starts automatically) and also its helper RPC service is running
    > > (also starting
    > > automatically).
    > >
    > > Any suggestions about what I should try would be very welcome.
    > >
    > > Kind regards
    > >
    > > Brian
    > >

    >
    > Microsoft networking problems are solved by voodoo magic. You
    > sacrifice a chicken to the angel Baron Samedi, and he gets you an
    > audience with god Bon Dieu. :)
    >
    > What you have to do actually is a little weird. You don't set up a
    > network printer in W7, you setup a "local" printer connected
    > through a network port. So basically when you're going through the
    > add a printer wizard, you will choose "add local printer". You will
    > then choose to "create a new port". Here you will then choose
    > "standard tcp/ip port", and then type in the full printer share
    > name, like "\\xpcomputer\xpprinter".
    >
    > Yousuf Khan
    >
    > Networking from Printer attached to Win XP PC to Win 7 - Windows 7
    > Forums
    > http://www.sevenforums.com/network-sharing/7527-networking-printer-a
    > ttached-win-xp-pc-win-7-a.html
    >


    Thanks very much Yousuf.

    I use to think that Linux was quirky, but this certainly wins hands down!

    I have not tried again to link Windows 7 to the XP printer because I decided that
    it was too inconvenience not to have a printer available, and so I restored, from
    an image, my former XP installation.

    However, over the week end, when I get some free time, I will try again and report
    back.

    Once again thanks for your help.

    Brian
     
  4. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 12/08/2010 8:11 AM, Brian wrote:
    > Thanks very much Yousuf.
    >
    > I use to think that Linux was quirky, but this certainly wins hands down!


    Latest versions of Linux are quite a bit less quirky. In fact,
    printing-wise, the Linux are some of the most convenient around, they
    can use native printer drivers, or they can use Windows network printers
    without any discernible difference in setup.

    > I have not tried again to link Windows 7 to the XP printer because I decided that
    > it was too inconvenience not to have a printer available, and so I restored, from
    > an image, my former XP installation.
    >
    > However, over the week end, when I get some free time, I will try again and report
    > back.
    >
    > Once again thanks for your help.


    As I said, it's voodoo magic at work.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 8/11/2010 2:53 AM, Brian wrote:
    > I have five XP computers on a wired peer-to-peer network. One computer acts
    > simply as a print server, and the internet is excluded from it.
    >


    So it is a part of your "workgroup" right?

    > I have now installed Windows 7 on one of the computers, but whilst it can access
    > the XP computers on the network, including the one that acts as a print server, it
    > will not connect to any printer.


    I'm going to assume the printer is "shared" so all you need do in
    Windows 7, is go to:

    Start/Devices and Printers/Add a printer

    then select

    Add a network, wireless...etc

    Select the printer from the list or else browse for it.

    Print a test page to be sure it is working correctly.

    Instead it gives a message to the effect that
    > the print spooler service is not running on the print server.


    You may have to open the printer properties of the printer, in Windows
    7, and change the printer port.

    However, I have
    > checked the print server XP computer and the print spooler service is running (it
    > starts automatically) and also its helper RPC service is running (also starting
    > automatically).
    >
    > Any suggestions about what I should try would be very welcome.
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Brian
    >
     
  6. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 8/11/2010 5:56 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 8/11/2010 5:53 AM, Brian wrote:
    >> I have five XP computers on a wired peer-to-peer network. One computer
    >> acts
    >> simply as a print server, and the internet is excluded from it.
    >>
    >> I have now installed Windows 7 on one of the computers, but whilst it
    >> can access
    >> the XP computers on the network, including the one that acts as a
    >> print server, it
    >> will not connect to any printer. Instead it gives a message to the
    >> effect that
    >> the print spooler service is not running on the print server. However,
    >> I have
    >> checked the print server XP computer and the print spooler service is
    >> running (it
    >> starts automatically) and also its helper RPC service is running (also
    >> starting
    >> automatically).
    >>
    >> Any suggestions about what I should try would be very welcome.
    >>
    >> Kind regards
    >>
    >> Brian
    >>

    >
    > Microsoft networking problems are solved by voodoo magic. You sacrifice
    > a chicken to the angel Baron Samedi, and he gets you an audience with
    > god Bon Dieu. :)
    >
    > What you have to do actually is a little weird. You don't set up a
    > network printer in W7, you setup a "local" printer connected through a
    > network port. So basically when you're going through the add a printer
    > wizard, you will choose "add local printer". You will then choose to
    > "create a new port". Here you will then choose "standard tcp/ip port",
    > and then type in the full printer share name, like
    > "\\xpcomputer\xpprinter".
    >
    > Yousuf Khan
    >
    > Networking from Printer attached to Win XP PC to Win 7 - Windows 7 Forums
    > http://www.sevenforums.com/network-sharing/7527-networking-printer-attached-win-xp-pc-win-7-a.html
    >


    WoW! That sort of sounds like how we had to install a printer in
    Windows7/XP mode.

    It is not how I've installed printers connected to XP in Windows 7.
     
  7. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 8/12/2010 2:23 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 12/08/2010 8:11 AM, Brian wrote:
    >> Thanks very much Yousuf.
    >>
    >> I use to think that Linux was quirky, but this certainly wins hands down!

    >
    > Latest versions of Linux are quite a bit less quirky. In fact,
    > printing-wise, the Linux are some of the most convenient around, they
    > can use native printer drivers, or they can use Windows network printers
    > without any discernible difference in setup.


    Really? I think you're forgetting that HP is the only PC/printer company
    that caters to linux users.
    Try finding printer drivers for Canon...or Epson...although Epson has a
    few drivers.
    Face it...printer drivers for linux is still one of the many "flies in
    the ointment", when it comes to non-user friendly linux.
    >
    >> I have not tried again to link Windows 7 to the XP printer because I
    >> decided that
    >> it was too inconvenience not to have a printer available, and so I
    >> restored, from
    >> an image, my former XP installation.
    >>
    >> However, over the week end, when I get some free time, I will try
    >> again and report
    >> back.
    >>
    >> Once again thanks for your help.

    >
    > As I said, it's voodoo magic at work.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan
     
  8. Brian

    Brian Flightless Bird

    In article <memo.20100812131116.2720A@doricnet.btinternet.com>,
    doricnet@btinternet.com (Brian) wrote:

    > *From:-* doricnet@btinternet.com (Brian)
    > *Date:-* Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:11 +0100 (BST)
    >
    > In article <4c6346ae$1@news.bnb-lp.com>, bbbl67@yahoo.com (Yousuf
    > Khan) wrote:
    >
    > > *From:-* Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com>
    > > *Date:-* Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:56:14 -0400
    > >
    > > On 8/11/2010 5:53 AM, Brian wrote:
    > > > I have five XP computers on a wired peer-to-peer network. One
    > > > computer acts
    > > > simply as a print server, and the internet is excluded from it.
    > > >
    > > > I have now installed Windows 7 on one of the computers, but
    > > > whilst it can access
    > > > the XP computers on the network, including the one that acts as

    > > a > print server, it
    > > > will not connect to any printer. Instead it gives a message

    > > to > the effect that
    > > > the print spooler service is not running on the print server.
    > > > However, I have
    > > > checked the print server XP computer and the print spooler
    > > > service is running (it
    > > > starts automatically) and also its helper RPC service is

    > > running > (also starting
    > > > automatically).
    > > >
    > > > Any suggestions about what I should try would be very welcome.
    > > >
    > > > Kind regards
    > > >
    > > > Brian
    > > >

    > >
    > > Microsoft networking problems are solved by voodoo magic. You
    > > sacrifice a chicken to the angel Baron Samedi, and he gets you an
    > > audience with god Bon Dieu. :)
    > >
    > > What you have to do actually is a little weird. You don't set up
    > > a network printer in W7, you setup a "local" printer connected >
    > > > through a network port. So basically when you're going through

    > the add a printer wizard, you will choose "add local printer". You
    > > will then choose to "create a new port". Here you will then
    > > choose "standard tcp/ip port", and then type in the full printer
    > > share name, like "\\xpcomputer\xpprinter".
    > >
    > > Yousuf Khan
    > >
    > > Networking from Printer attached to Win XP PC to Win 7 - Windows
    > > 7 Forums
    > >
    > >

    > http://www.sevenforums.com/network-sharing/7527-networking-printer-a
    > > ttached-win-xp-pc-win-7-a.html
    > >

    >
    > Thanks very much Yousuf.
    >
    > I use to think that Linux was quirky, but this certainly wins hands
    > down!
    >
    > I have not tried again to link Windows 7 to the XP printer because
    > I decided that
    > it was too inconvenience not to have a printer available, and so I
    > restored, from
    > an image, my former XP installation.
    >
    > However, over the week end, when I get some free time, I will try
    > again and report
    > back.
    >
    > Once again thanks for your help.
    >
    > Brian
    >
    >


    I have now reinstalled Windows 7 and followed the instructions given by Yousuf, and,
    to my surprise I must admit, the printer (HP Business Inkjet 2800) works perfectly.

    Many thanks to all concerned.

    Brian
     
  9. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 12/08/2010 6:20 PM, Frank wrote:
    >> Latest versions of Linux are quite a bit less quirky. In fact,
    >> printing-wise, the Linux are some of the most convenient around, they
    >> can use native printer drivers, or they can use Windows network printers
    >> without any discernible difference in setup.

    >
    > Really? I think you're forgetting that HP is the only PC/printer company
    > that caters to linux users.
    > Try finding printer drivers for Canon...or Epson...although Epson has a
    > few drivers.
    > Face it...printer drivers for linux is still one of the many "flies in
    > the ointment", when it comes to non-user friendly linux.


    You'll probably find they are all there now.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  10. Yousuf Khan

    Yousuf Khan Flightless Bird

    On 13/08/2010 10:07 AM, Brian wrote:
    > I have now reinstalled Windows 7 and followed the instructions given by Yousuf, and,
    > to my surprise I must admit, the printer (HP Business Inkjet 2800) works perfectly.
    >
    > Many thanks to all concerned.
    >
    > Brian


    Good for you, have fun.

    Yousuf Khan
     
  11. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 8/13/2010 7:54 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
    > On 12/08/2010 6:20 PM, Frank wrote:
    >>> Latest versions of Linux are quite a bit less quirky. In fact,
    >>> printing-wise, the Linux are some of the most convenient around, they
    >>> can use native printer drivers, or they can use Windows network printers
    >>> without any discernible difference in setup.

    >>
    >> Really? I think you're forgetting that HP is the only PC/printer company
    >> that caters to linux users.
    >> Try finding printer drivers for Canon...or Epson...although Epson has a
    >> few drivers.
    >> Face it...printer drivers for linux is still one of the many "flies in
    >> the ointment", when it comes to non-user friendly linux.

    >
    > You'll probably find they are all there now.
    >
    > Yousuf Khan


    You need to check Canon's site before making such an uninformed statement.
     

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