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Network Adapter gets disabled.

A

azTom

Flightless Bird
Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled
things work OK.
This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
everything disabled in the Startup tab.
Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.

--
azTom
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 4/11/2010 5:56 PM, azTom wrote:
> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
> Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled things
> work OK.
> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
> what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.
>


Please explain what you mean by..."(all upgrades removed)".
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
news:Icuwn.50098$iu2.13355@newsfe15.iad...
> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO internet
> connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the Device Manager
> and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the Network Adapter.
> If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled things work OK.
> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is startingup
> during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have everything disabled
> in the Startup tab.
> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just what
> services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.
>
> --
> azTom


You can go here http://www.blackviper.com/Windows_7/servicecfg.htm and get a
lot of info on Windows services, what they do and whether or not they are
necessary.

When you reboot and Win7 reinstalls the network adapter, how long does it
then stay working? Have you checked the manufacturer's site for any updated
Win7 drivers (or your motherboard's site if the NIC is on-board)?
What are you using for a firewall and malware detection/prevention?
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
A

a@b.c

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom <ks5x@live.com> wrote:

>Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
>Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled
>things work OK.
>This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
>many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
>what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.


Did you check the Control Panel Power Options setting to see if its
being turned off as part of power management? Go through the Advanced
Options to see if any of them apply to you. Its not clear from your
description if this is a battery powered laptop or a desktop unit. And
its not clear if this is a wireless adapter or a pci device. So its
not readily apparant if power management is turning off the network
adaptor to save power.
 
T

Trev

Flightless Bird
"azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
news:Icuwn.50098$iu2.13355@newsfe15.iad...
> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO internet
> connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the Device Manager
> and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the Network Adapter.
> If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled things work OK.
> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is startingup
> during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have everything disabled
> in the Startup tab.
> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just what
> services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.
>
> --
> azTom


Did you check to see which Network adaptor Ie If you use wireless and the
cable is not plugged in You will get the red cross for Ethernet And Visa
Versa
 
A

azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/11/2010 6:47 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 4/11/2010 5:56 PM, azTom wrote:
>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
>> Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled things
>> work OK.
>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
>> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
>> what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.
>>

>
> Please explain what you mean by..."(all upgrades removed)".

Control Panel > Programs+Uninstall a program > View installed updates >
then select and remove all updates
--
azTom
 
A

azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/11/2010 7:53 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
> news:Icuwn.50098$iu2.13355@newsfe15.iad...
>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds
>> or so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs
>> the Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled
>> things work OK.
>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there
>> are many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me
>> just what services are required? Any and all help would be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> azTom

>
> You can go here http://www.blackviper.com/Windows_7/servicecfg.htm and
> get a lot of info on Windows services, what they do and whether or not
> they are necessary.
>
> When you reboot and Win7 reinstalls the network adapter, how long does
> it then stay working? Have you checked the manufacturer's site for any
> updated Win7 drivers (or your motherboard's site if the NIC is on-board)?
> What are you using for a firewall and malware detection/prevention?

Soart intermittent problem, just can not say 100% solved or not. Thanks
for the link to the Services site will look into it.

--
azTom
 
A

azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/11/2010 9:09 PM, a@b.c wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>
>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
>> Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled
>> things work OK.
>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
>> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
>> what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.

>
> Did you check the Control Panel Power Options setting to see if its
> being turned off as part of power management? Go through the Advanced
> Options to see if any of them apply to you. Its not clear from your
> description if this is a battery powered laptop or a desktop unit. And
> its not clear if this is a wireless adapter or a pci device. So its
> not readily apparant if power management is turning off the network
> adaptor to save power.

Sorry about missed info, it's a desktop I assembled from purchased parts
from Fry's. It's wired to my router, no pci device built-in the
motherboard. Just where do I locate the Advanced Options in the Control
Panel?

--
azTom
 
C

Chris Sidener

Flightless Bird
"azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
news:L5Iwn.112261$sx5.47394@newsfe16.iad...
> On 4/11/2010 6:47 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/11/2010 5:56 PM, azTom wrote:
>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
>>> Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled things
>>> work OK.
>>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
>>> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
>>> what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.
>>>

>>
>> Please explain what you mean by..."(all upgrades removed)".

> Control Panel > Programs+Uninstall a program > View installed updates >
> then select and remove all updates
> --
> azTom


You're kidding, right?

Chris
 
A

azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/12/2010 1:46 AM, Trev wrote:
>
> "azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
> news:Icuwn.50098$iu2.13355@newsfe15.iad...
>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds
>> or so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs
>> the Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled
>> things work OK.
>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there
>> are many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me
>> just what services are required? Any and all help would be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> azTom

>
> Did you check to see which Network adaptor Ie If you use wireless and
> the cable is not plugged in You will get the red cross for Ethernet And
> Visa Versa

Thanks for suggestions but the computer is a desktop and hard wired to
my router. I've tried different cables, no change.

--
azTom
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom <ks5x@live.com> wrote:

>Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),


That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
those updates as soon as you're able.

>P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>internet connection.


Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.

Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
(Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
appears?
 
M

MJMIII

Flightless Bird
"azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
news:L5Iwn.112261$sx5.47394@newsfe16.iad...
> On 4/11/2010 6:47 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/11/2010 5:56 PM, azTom wrote:
>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs the
>>> Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled things
>>> work OK.
>>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there are
>>> many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me just
>>> what services are required? Any and all help would be much appreciated.
>>>

>>
>> Please explain what you mean by..."(all upgrades removed)".

> Control Panel > Programs+Uninstall a program > View installed updates >
> then select and remove all updates
> --
> azTom


Moron!
--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
 
A

azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>
>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),

>
> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
> those updates as soon as you're able.
>
>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>> internet connection.

>
> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>
> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
> appears?
>

Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router has
been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4 COMBO
their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The last BIOS
update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said if I
uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything works
great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP address
please give me fresh instructions.

Thanks

--
azTom
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
news:zfNwn.28967$vC3.8985@newsfe04.iad...
> On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),

>>
>> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
>> those updates as soon as you're able.
>>
>>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>> internet connection.

>>
>> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
>> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
>> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>>
>> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
>> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
>> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
>> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
>> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
>> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
>> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
>> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
>> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
>> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
>> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
>> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
>> appears?
>>

> Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
> after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router has
> been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4 COMBO
> their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The last BIOS
> update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said if I
> uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything works
> great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP address
> please give me fresh instructions.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> azTom


One option may be to install a PCI NIC and disable the on-board one through
the BIOS. NIC's can be had for 15 to 20 bucks for a basic gigabyte one.
--
SC Tom
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:36:13 -0700, azTom <ks5x@live.com> wrote:

>On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),

>>
>> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
>> those updates as soon as you're able.
>>
>>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>> internet connection.

>>
>> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
>> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
>> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>>
>> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
>> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
>> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
>> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
>> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
>> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
>> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
>> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
>> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
>> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
>> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
>> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
>> appears?
>>

>Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
>after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router has
>been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4 COMBO
>their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The last BIOS
>update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said if I
>uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything works
>great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP address
>please give me fresh instructions.
>
>Thanks


On a system that old, I agree with SC Tom that your best bet might be
to add a NIC. At least that way you'll probably have newer drivers for
it.
 
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azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/12/2010 6:05 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
> news:zfNwn.28967$vC3.8985@newsfe04.iad...
>> On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),
>>>
>>> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
>>> those updates as soon as you're able.
>>>
>>>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30
>>>> seconds or
>>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>>> internet connection.
>>>
>>> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
>>> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
>>> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>>>
>>> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
>>> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
>>> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
>>> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
>>> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
>>> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
>>> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
>>> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
>>> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
>>> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
>>> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
>>> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
>>> appears?
>>>

>> Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
>> after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router
>> has been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4
>> COMBO their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The
>> last BIOS update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said
>> if I uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything
>> works great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP
>> address please give me fresh instructions.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> azTom

>
> One option may be to install a PCI NIC and disable the on-board one
> through the BIOS. NIC's can be had for 15 to 20 bucks for a basic
> gigabyte one.

Thanks for the suggestion and where to disable the on board NIC, I'm
sure I have a PCI NIC card in my spares box.

--
azTom
 
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azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/12/2010 8:24 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:36:13 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),
>>>
>>> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
>>> those updates as soon as you're able.
>>>
>>>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>>> internet connection.
>>>
>>> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
>>> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
>>> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>>>
>>> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
>>> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
>>> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
>>> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
>>> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
>>> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
>>> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
>>> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
>>> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
>>> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
>>> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
>>> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
>>> appears?
>>>

>> Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
>> after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router has
>> been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4 COMBO
>> their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The last BIOS
>> update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said if I
>> uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything works
>> great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP address
>> please give me fresh instructions.
>>
>> Thanks

>
> On a system that old, I agree with SC Tom that your best bet might be
> to add a NIC. At least that way you'll probably have newer drivers for
> it.
>

Thanks will give it a try, I know running in XP never had a problem. PTL

--
azTom
 
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azTom

Flightless Bird
On 4/11/2010 7:53 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
> news:Icuwn.50098$iu2.13355@newsfe15.iad...
>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed), P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds
>> or so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>> internet connection. If I uninstall the Network Adapter through the
>> Device Manager and reboot everything works great AFTER Win7 installs
>> the Network Adapter. If I boot in Safe mode with the internet enabled
>> things work OK.
>> This leads me to the conclusion that some program or service is
>> startingup during boot that disables the Network Adapter.I have
>> everything disabled in the Startup tab.
>> Going to the System Configuration window, via msconfig, I see there
>> are many Services that automatically run on boot can anyone tell me
>> just what services are required? Any and all help would be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> azTom

>
> You can go here http://www.blackviper.com/Windows_7/servicecfg.htm and
> get a lot of info on Windows services, what they do and whether or not
> they are necessary.
>
> When you reboot and Win7 reinstalls the network adapter, how long does
> it then stay working? Have you checked the manufacturer's site for any
> updated Win7 drivers (or your motherboard's site if the NIC is on-board)?
> What are you using for a firewall and malware detection/prevention?

Thanks for your advice, the Network connection is an on-board
connection. Checked the manufacturers site and the last changes were in
2005 so you see it's an outdated motherboard. But functions admirably
for the tasks I need. Will try a new PCI NI card, tried an older PCI NI
with no success, Win7 did not even recognize it. As for firewall and
malware I have Norton programs but, removed everything and still have
the same problem. Have a GREAT day.

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azTom

Flightless Bird
Re: Network Adapter gets disabled. Finally Fixed

On 4/12/2010 8:24 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:36:13 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),
>>>
>>> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
>>> those updates as soon as you're able.
>>>
>>>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30 seconds or
>>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>>> internet connection.
>>>
>>> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
>>> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
>>> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>>>
>>> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
>>> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
>>> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
>>> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
>>> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
>>> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
>>> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
>>> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
>>> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
>>> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
>>> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
>>> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
>>> appears?
>>>

>> Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
>> after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router has
>> been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4 COMBO
>> their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The last BIOS
>> update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said if I
>> uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything works
>> great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP address
>> please give me fresh instructions.
>>
>> Thanks

>
> On a system that old, I agree with SC Tom that your best bet might be
> to add a NIC. At least that way you'll probably have newer drivers for
> it.
>

Thanks for your also suggesting I get a PCI Win7 compatible NI card.
Finally managed to get one at Best Buy, everything is up and working
again. Thanks for your guidance.

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azTom

Flightless Bird
Re: Network Adapter gets disabled. Problem Fixed!

On 4/12/2010 6:05 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "azTom" <ks5x@live.com> wrote in message
> news:zfNwn.28967$vC3.8985@newsfe04.iad...
>> On 4/12/2010 12:25 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:56:07 -0700, azTom<ks5x@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Running Win7 32bit (all upgrades removed),
>>>
>>> That probably wasn't a good idea. You'll likely want to reinstall
>>> those updates as soon as you're able.
>>>
>>>> P4 3.2Ghz cpu, my Network
>>>> Adapter connects to the internet on boot; then after about 30
>>>> seconds or
>>>> so a red X appears on In the Notification bar icon indicating NO
>>>> internet connection.
>>>
>>> Do you actually lose your Internet connection at that point? Many
>>> current computers come with dual LAN ports now, so it's normal to have
>>> a red X on the unused port unless/until you disable it.
>>>
>>> Assuming you have a single LAN port and you really do lose your
>>> Internet connection, do you also lose your connection to your router
>>> at that point? Do you trust your router? Have you tried another port
>>> on the router, or do you have another computer that continues to work
>>> through that router when this computer doesn't? Have you checked the
>>> two LEDs next to the LAN port on your computer, (Link and Activity),
>>> and the related LEDs on the router? Link should be on steady and
>>> Activity should occasionally blink. Do you have another networking
>>> device that you can plug the computer into, like a switch or hub,
>>> (Internet connectivity isn't important or desired here) to see if the
>>> computer recognizes the physical connection? Do you know how to check
>>> your IP address information to see if anything changes after the red X
>>> appears?
>>>

>> Believe it or not the problem comes and goes, I've seen the Red X then
>> after awhile it is gone. Beats me! I have two computers, the router
>> has been replaced, no change. Guess it's the motherboard ASRock P4
>> COMBO their web site does not list Win7 as an operating system. The
>> last BIOS update was 2005. Yes I have tried other ports and as I said
>> if I uninstall the network adapter via the device manager everything
>> works great until I shut down. It's been awhile since I checked the IP
>> address please give me fresh instructions.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> azTom

>
> One option may be to install a PCI NIC and disable the on-board one
> through the BIOS. NIC's can be had for 15 to 20 bucks for a basic
> gigabyte one.


Thanks Tom for your suggestion, I tried an old (2005) PCI NI and
couldn't find a driver for Win7, finally got to Best Buy and installed
Win7 recognized it and did a self-installation everything works great
now. Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated. God Bless You and
Yours
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