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Need Help With Start Menu

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Dock@dock..com, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote in message
    news:anhul5hnub567d6qk34i7p9fol77602398@4ax.com...
    >
    > Why are you responding at all, if that is the case? I was genuinely
    > asking for some help and got trolled and told to use the search feature
    > to find icons that aren't arranging themselves properly.


    The "why " was teasing.

    I didn't read his answer as a troll. I thought it was a good suggestion.

    Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the Instant
    Search box and it runs from there. I almost never use the full Start menu.

    > And you fault me for responding in the manner that I did? For God's
    > sake, his advice was to simply don't worry about it.


    Yes I do fault you for the manner in which you responded. It may not have
    been what you were looking for but it was a working alternative. You got
    snotty in response. Those are people who I mark as to not bother supplying
    information for in the future.

    > This could not have been for real.
     
  2. Dock@dock..com

    Dock@dock..com Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:13:41 -0500, "Seth"
    <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote in message
    >news:anhul5hnub567d6qk34i7p9fol77602398@4ax.com...
    >>
    >> Why are you responding at all, if that is the case? I was genuinely
    >> asking for some help and got trolled and told to use the search feature
    >> to find icons that aren't arranging themselves properly.

    >
    >The "why " was teasing.
    >
    >I didn't read his answer as a troll. I thought it was a good suggestion.
    >
    >Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    >well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    >everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the Instant
    >Search box and it runs from there. I almost never use the full Start menu.
    >
    >> And you fault me for responding in the manner that I did? For God's
    >> sake, his advice was to simply don't worry about it.

    >
    >Yes I do fault you for the manner in which you responded. It may not have
    >been what you were looking for but it was a working alternative. You got
    >snotty in response. Those are people who I mark as to not bother supplying
    >information for in the future.
    >


    Go ahead and mark me. You haven't helped a bit. When a question is asked
    in a help group, either you answer it or don't. Giving suggestions that
    were in no way asked for is silly and not productive.

    I choose to have a start menu that functions correctly. If you believe
    that this is not something that should be cared about, don't answer.

    I was not looking to change my computer usage habits to be more like
    yours.
     
  3. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    news:8qqul55cjs6jrjb4u362o65mi34o5ti056@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:13:41 -0500, "Seth"
    > <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote in message
    >>news:anhul5hnub567d6qk34i7p9fol77602398@4ax.com...
    >>>
    >>> Why are you responding at all, if that is the case? I was genuinely
    >>> asking for some help and got trolled and told to use the search feature
    >>> to find icons that aren't arranging themselves properly.

    >>
    >>The "why " was teasing.
    >>
    >>I didn't read his answer as a troll. I thought it was a good suggestion.
    >>
    >>Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    >>well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    >>everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the
    >>Instant
    >>Search box and it runs from there. I almost never use the full Start menu.
    >>
    >>> And you fault me for responding in the manner that I did? For God's
    >>> sake, his advice was to simply don't worry about it.

    >>
    >>Yes I do fault you for the manner in which you responded. It may not have
    >>been what you were looking for but it was a working alternative. You got
    >>snotty in response. Those are people who I mark as to not bother
    >>supplying
    >>information for in the future.

    >
    > Go ahead and mark me. You haven't helped a bit. When a question is asked
    > in a help group, either you answer it or don't. Giving suggestions that
    > were in no way asked for is silly and not productive.


    Then you're entitled to a full refund...

    > I choose to have a start menu that functions correctly. If you believe
    > that this is not something that should be cared about, don't answer.


    Someone merely offered an alternative. Sometimes they work for you,
    sometimes they don't. Doesn't mean you should be an ass about it. Same
    advice as you give above. EIther you like the answer or you don't.

    > I was not looking to change my computer usage habits to be more like
    > yours.


    Apparently you don't wish to be civil like others as well.
     
  4. Zaidy036

    Zaidy036 Flightless Bird

    On 1/26/2010 3:56 PM, Van Chocstraw wrote:
    > On 01/26/2010 08:26 AM, Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>
    >> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>
    >> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>
    >> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >> back in alphabetical order.
    >>
    >>
    >> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>
    >> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >
    > Alphabetical is quite handy and easy to find things; if you know your
    > alphabet.


    There are many Icon Rstorer programs available. A free one that I use
    with Win 7 64 bit is "IconRestorer" available from
    http://fsl.sytes.net/news.html#iconrestorer

    Eric
     
  5. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/26/10, Seth posted:
    > "MJMIII" <balrog@castaway.net> wrote in message
    > news:8bGdnVs2M73xo8LWnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >> Seth, don't lump yourself in the same category as Andy. I've read some of
    >> your responses and you have nothing to fear. Andy is a bonafide moron.



    > Thanks for the compliment...


    > But I do have to say, the answer to which Dock got his/her panties in a bunch
    > was actually an accurate suggestion. May not be exactly what was being looked
    > for, but it does work and could alleviate a users need for the start menu.


    > Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as well
    > as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much everything
    > else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the Instant Search box
    > and it runs from there.


    When I read Andy's response, I did two things:

    1. I told K that the OP was going to react negatively.

    2. I took a poll. Two out of two in this room agreed with Andy. We just
    got used to the new way and went on from there.

    For me, Andy's method became in fact much more convenient than the old
    way, but K just got used to it. No better, no worse.

    I haven't done any pinning yet (except in the task bar), but I am
    listening to your suggestion :)

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  6. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/26/10, Seth posted:
    > <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    > news:8qqul55cjs6jrjb4u362o65mi34o5ti056@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:13:41 -0500, "Seth"
    >> <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote in message
    >>>news:anhul5hnub567d6qk34i7p9fol77602398@4ax.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> Why are you responding at all, if that is the case? I was genuinely
    >>>> asking for some help and got trolled and told to use the search feature
    >>>> to find icons that aren't arranging themselves properly.
    >>>
    >>>The "why " was teasing.
    >>>
    >>>I didn't read his answer as a troll. I thought it was a good suggestion.
    >>>
    >>>Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    >>>well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    >>>everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the Instant
    >>>Search box and it runs from there. I almost never use the full Start menu.
    >>>
    >>>> And you fault me for responding in the manner that I did? For God's
    >>>> sake, his advice was to simply don't worry about it.
    >>>
    >>>Yes I do fault you for the manner in which you responded. It may not have
    >>>been what you were looking for but it was a working alternative. You got
    >>>snotty in response. Those are people who I mark as to not bother supplying
    >>>information for in the future.

    >>
    >> Go ahead and mark me. You haven't helped a bit. When a question is asked
    >> in a help group, either you answer it or don't. Giving suggestions that
    >> were in no way asked for is silly and not productive.


    > Then you're entitled to a full refund...


    >> I choose to have a start menu that functions correctly. If you believe
    >> that this is not something that should be cared about, don't answer.


    > Someone merely offered an alternative. Sometimes they work for you, sometimes
    > they don't. Doesn't mean you should be an ass about it. Same advice as you
    > give above. EIther you like the answer or you don't.


    >> I was not looking to change my computer usage habits to be more like
    >> yours.


    > Apparently you don't wish to be civil like others as well.


    My favorite part of Dock's responses is his use of the word
    "correctly".

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  7. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/26/10, Zaidy036 posted:
    > On 1/26/2010 3:56 PM, Van Chocstraw wrote:
    >> On 01/26/2010 08:26 AM, Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>
    >>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>
    >>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >>
    >> Alphabetical is quite handy and easy to find things; if you know your
    >> alphabet.


    > There are many Icon Rstorer programs available. A free one that I use with
    > Win 7 64 bit is "IconRestorer" available from
    > http://fsl.sytes.net/news.html#iconrestorer


    > Eric


    That's for the desktop. Dock is having trouble with the start menu and
    the alphabet.

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  8. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:

    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >
    >>Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>
    >>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical

    order.
    >>>
    >>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,

    >>2Audio,
    >>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders

    on
    >>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>
    >>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can

    rearrange
    >>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >>
    >>
    >>I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>
    >>Just use the search feature.
    >>
    >>You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe,

    imho.
    >>
    >>YMMV.

    >
    > I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >
    > The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    > that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >
    > Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    > respond.



    Ain't you just a ray o' sunshine!

    Andy
     
  9. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    > news:gj7ul5hbb1hat6koku3f253ab2rtlk3onf@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >>>Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one
    >>>> account and it is an administrative account, in case that was
    >>>> relevant.
    >>>>
    >>>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders
    >>>> in the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical
    >>>> order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,
    >>>2Audio,
    >>>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main
    >>>> folders on the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can
    >>>> rearrange them all day and they will stay in the order I put them
    >>>> in for a bit, varying time periods, but they always will ultimately
    >>>> put themselves back in alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can anyone give me some tips?
    >>>
    >>>I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>>
    >>>Just use the search feature.
    >>>
    >>>You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe,
    >>>imho.
    >>>
    >>>YMMV.

    >>
    >> I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >>
    >> The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start
    >> menu that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >>
    >> Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    >> respond.

    >
    >
    > Well I was going to respond but am now afraid that if my answer
    > doesn't live up to your expectations you might berate me and hurt my
    > feelings.
    >
    > So I'll just keep my answer to myself...



    What a bunch of fags you pussies turned out to be!!!

    Andy
     
  10. Dock@dock..com

    Dock@dock..com Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:11:44 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
    <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:


    >
    >That's for the desktop. Dock is having trouble with the start menu and
    >the alphabet.


    Actually, I am having problems with moronic twits that are offering
    useless help in a help group.

    When asking for assistance to make folders not alphabetize themselves, I
    am told that it is easier to just let them do whatever they wish.

    This is dumbassery advice and the ones, such as yourself, who agree that
    it is just the bestest available advice and should really be good
    enough, are just as moronic.

    If someone has a hole in their bucket and asks for advice on how to
    patch the hole, the advice should not be to not use a bucket.

    This group is a joke. Are there any posters here who have owned a
    computer for more than 6 months?
     
  11. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote in message
    news:npiul5pus5bnbsno1p4dl1gtdtit8dmd5t@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:42:13 -0000, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >><Dock@dock..com> wrote in message news:9jqtl55lgmedh4db3c9q9fcg5qdc291d0o@4ax.com...
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>
    >>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>
    >>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >>
    >>I'm running Win7 64 , one account as admin. Normally I have the start menu set to
    >>sort by name but I have just cleared that box and moved a few folders around in the
    >>All programs menu and they seem to stick where I set them even after a few re-boots.
    >>Can you tell when yours reset themselves, after a re-boot or when something else happens?

    >
    > Give it time, Dave.
    >
    > I haven't been able to nail down exactly what I am doing when they
    > change. I do stuff on the computer, open programs, browse the web, work
    > in my file manager, listen to songs, etc... and when I go back to the
    > start menu, wam, they are all back in alphabetical order.
    >
    > Like you, I have rearranged them and shut down and restarted and they
    > would stick, so I would think I had it working correctly. But, they
    > always change back.


    Well it's been several hours now and I've switched off a couple of times,
    surfed the net, sent and received emails, played a few games and had a
    couple of Microsoft updates and still the start menu entries have stayed
    where I set them.
    I took snapshots of the registry while re-arranging the icons and it looks
    like the settings are saved in this key:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StartPage
    with the data held in the binary value 'AllProgramsOrder'.

    I renamed this value and rebooted and the start menu entries reverted to alphabetical
    sorting, even though the box 'Sort All Programs menu by name' was still clear.

    I looks like when you select the box 'Sort All Programs menu by name' in the customize
    section Explorer ignores the reg key above and sorts alphabetically by default.
    When the box is not selected then Explorer reads the reg key and sorts according to
    the data held there.
    If your settings are not being saved have a look at that reg key.


    ..
     
  12. MJMIII

    MJMIII Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    news:hjods8$b5t$1@news.albasani.net...
    > On 1/26/10, Seth posted:
    >> "MJMIII" <balrog@castaway.net> wrote in message
    >> news:8bGdnVs2M73xo8LWnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >>> Seth, don't lump yourself in the same category as Andy. I've read some
    >>> of your responses and you have nothing to fear. Andy is a bonafide
    >>> moron.

    >
    >
    >> Thanks for the compliment...

    >
    >> But I do have to say, the answer to which Dock got his/her panties in a
    >> bunch was actually an accurate suggestion. May not be exactly what was
    >> being looked for, but it does work and could alleviate a users need for
    >> the start menu.

    >
    >> Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    >> well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    >> everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the
    >> Instant Search box and it runs from there.

    >
    > When I read Andy's response, I did two things:
    >
    > 1. I told K that the OP was going to react negatively.
    >
    > 2. I took a poll. Two out of two in this room agreed with Andy. We just
    > got used to the new way and went on from there.
    >
    > For me, Andy's method became in fact much more convenient than the old
    > way, but K just got used to it. No better, no worse.
    >
    > I haven't done any pinning yet (except in the task bar), but I am
    > listening to your suggestion :)
    >
    > --
    > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com


    Gene.

    You and I can agree to disagree. I've found 99% of Andy's posts are from
    the hip, uneducated responses.
    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     
  13. MJMIII

    MJMIII Flightless Bird

    "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9D0D30807430Cotd@216.196.97.131...

    >
    >
    > Ain't you just a ray o' sunshine!
    >
    > Andy


    Ain't you just your atypical moron!
    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     
  14. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:

    > This group is a joke.


    No, it's very helpful to those who aren't obnoxious jerks like
    yourself.

    > Are there any posters here who have owned a computer for more than
    > 6 months?


    Yes, for around 30 years so I've learned to use the bozo bin.

    You'll find some other obnoxious jerks there, you can have a party!
     
  15. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/27/10, MJMIII posted:
    > "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:hjods8$b5t$1@news.albasani.net...
    >> On 1/26/10, Seth posted:
    >>> "MJMIII" <balrog@castaway.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:8bGdnVs2M73xo8LWnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >>>> Seth, don't lump yourself in the same category as Andy. I've read some
    >>>> of your responses and you have nothing to fear. Andy is a bonafide
    >>>> moron.

    >>
    >>
    >>> Thanks for the compliment...

    >>
    >>> But I do have to say, the answer to which Dock got his/her panties in a
    >>> bunch was actually an accurate suggestion. May not be exactly what was
    >>> being looked for, but it does work and could alleviate a users need for
    >>> the start menu.

    >>
    >>> Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    >>> well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    >>> everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the
    >>> Instant Search box and it runs from there.

    >>
    >> When I read Andy's response, I did two things:
    >>
    >> 1. I told K that the OP was going to react negatively.
    >>
    >> 2. I took a poll. Two out of two in this room agreed with Andy. We just got
    >> used to the new way and went on from there.
    >>
    >> For me, Andy's method became in fact much more convenient than the old way,
    >> but K just got used to it. No better, no worse.
    >>
    >> I haven't done any pinning yet (except in the task bar), but I am listening
    >> to your suggestion :)
    >>
    >> -- Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com


    > Gene.


    > You and I can agree to disagree. I've found 99% of Andy's posts are from the
    > hip, uneducated responses.


    Why not honor the other 1%? :)

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  16. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/27/10, Gene E. Bloch posted:
    > On 1/27/10, MJMIII posted:
    >> "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:hjods8$b5t$1@news.albasani.net...
    >>> On 1/26/10, Seth posted:
    >>>> "MJMIII" <balrog@castaway.net> wrote in message
    >>>> news:8bGdnVs2M73xo8LWnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >>>>> Seth, don't lump yourself in the same category as Andy. I've read some
    >>>>> of your responses and you have nothing to fear. Andy is a bonafide
    >>>>> moron.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Thanks for the compliment...
    >>>
    >>>> But I do have to say, the answer to which Dock got his/her panties in a
    >>>> bunch was actually an accurate suggestion. May not be exactly what was
    >>>> being looked for, but it does work and could alleviate a users need for
    >>>> the start menu.
    >>>
    >>>> Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    >>>> well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    >>>> everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the
    >>>> Instant Search box and it runs from there.
    >>>
    >>> When I read Andy's response, I did two things:
    >>>
    >>> 1. I told K that the OP was going to react negatively.
    >>>
    >>> 2. I took a poll. Two out of two in this room agreed with Andy. We just
    >>> got used to the new way and went on from there.
    >>>
    >>> For me, Andy's method became in fact much more convenient than the old
    >>> way, but K just got used to it. No better, no worse.
    >>>
    >>> I haven't done any pinning yet (except in the task bar), but I am
    >>> listening to your suggestion :)
    >>>
    >>> -- Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com


    >> Gene.


    >> You and I can agree to disagree. I've found 99% of Andy's posts are from
    >> the hip, uneducated responses.


    > Why not honor the other 1%? :)


    OTOH, I just read another of Andy's posts. I have changed my mind
    completely. Forget that 1% of which I spoke...

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  17. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/27/10, Dock@dock..com posted:
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:11:44 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
    > <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:



    >>
    >> That's for the desktop. Dock is having trouble with the start menu and
    >> the alphabet.


    > Actually, I am having problems with moronic twits that are offering
    > useless help in a help group.


    > When asking for assistance to make folders not alphabetize themselves, I
    > am told that it is easier to just let them do whatever they wish.


    > This is dumbassery advice and the ones, such as yourself, who agree that
    > it is just the bestest available advice and should really be good
    > enough, are just as moronic.


    > If someone has a hole in their bucket and asks for advice on how to
    > patch the hole, the advice should not be to not use a bucket.


    > This group is a joke. Are there any posters here who have owned a
    > computer for more than 6 months?


    People in this thread have been offering useful suggestions. Please
    don't accept any of them.

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  18. Ophelia

    Ophelia Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    news:hjr87i$cgg$1@news.albasani.net...
    > On 1/27/10, Dock@dock..com posted:
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:11:44 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
    >> <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

    >
    >
    >>>
    >>> That's for the desktop. Dock is having trouble with the start menu and
    >>> the alphabet.

    >
    >> Actually, I am having problems with moronic twits that are offering
    >> useless help in a help group.

    >
    >> When asking for assistance to make folders not alphabetize themselves, I
    >> am told that it is easier to just let them do whatever they wish.

    >
    >> This is dumbassery advice and the ones, such as yourself, who agree that
    >> it is just the bestest available advice and should really be good
    >> enough, are just as moronic.

    >
    >> If someone has a hole in their bucket and asks for advice on how to
    >> patch the hole, the advice should not be to not use a bucket.

    >
    >> This group is a joke. Are there any posters here who have owned a
    >> computer for more than 6 months?

    >
    > People in this thread have been offering useful suggestions. Please don't
    > accept any of them.


    I am not too sure what Dock was expecting. MS employees? There are some
    knowledgeable and helpful people here. Most of us are just new to Win7 and
    are helping each other. Might I suggest to Dock the if this group is such a
    disappointment, s/he gets her/his bum off to find paid help
    --
    --
    https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/
     
  19. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    news:hjr87i$cgg$1@news.albasani.net...
    > On 1/27/10, Dock@dock..com posted:
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:11:44 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
    >> <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote:

    >
    >
    >>>
    >>> That's for the desktop. Dock is having trouble with the start menu and
    >>> the alphabet.

    >
    >> Actually, I am having problems with moronic twits that are offering
    >> useless help in a help group.

    >
    >> When asking for assistance to make folders not alphabetize themselves, I
    >> am told that it is easier to just let them do whatever they wish.

    >
    >> This is dumbassery advice and the ones, such as yourself, who agree that
    >> it is just the bestest available advice and should really be good
    >> enough, are just as moronic.

    >
    >> If someone has a hole in their bucket and asks for advice on how to
    >> patch the hole, the advice should not be to not use a bucket.

    >
    >> This group is a joke. Are there any posters here who have owned a
    >> computer for more than 6 months?

    >
    > People in this thread have been offering useful suggestions. Please don't
    > accept any of them.



    I offered him/her a full refund...
     
  20. MJMIII

    MJMIII Flightless Bird

    "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    news:hjr83e$cee$1@news.albasani.net...
    >>> Gene.

    >
    >>> You and I can agree to disagree. I've found 99% of Andy's posts are
    >>> from the hip, uneducated responses.

    >
    >> Why not honor the other 1%? :)

    >
    > OTOH, I just read another of Andy's posts. I have changed my mind
    > completely. Forget that 1% of which I spoke...
    >
    > --
    > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com


    LOL!!!
    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     

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