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Need Help With Start Menu

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Dock@dock..com, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Dock@dock..com

    Dock@dock..com Flightless Bird

    Hi,

    I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.

    My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.

    I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    the start menu in an order that I choose.

    Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    back in alphabetical order.


    I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    Start Menu dialog unchecked.

    Can anyone give me some tips?
     
  2. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    > and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >
    > My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    > the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >
    > I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,

    2Audio,
    > 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    > the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >
    > Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    > them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    > varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    > back in alphabetical order.
    >
    >
    > I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    > Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >
    > Can anyone give me some tips?



    I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"

    Just use the search feature.

    You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe, imho.

    YMMV.

    Best,

    Andy
     
  3. Dock@dock..com

    Dock@dock..com Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:

    >Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>
    >> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>
    >> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,

    >2Audio,
    >> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>
    >> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >> back in alphabetical order.
    >>
    >>
    >> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>
    >> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >
    >
    >I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >
    >Just use the search feature.
    >
    >You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe, imho.
    >
    >YMMV.


    I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.

    The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.

    Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    respond.
     
  4. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    > and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >
    > My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    > the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >
    > I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    > 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    > the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >
    > Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    > them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    > varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    > back in alphabetical order.
    >
    >
    > I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    > Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >
    > Can anyone give me some tips?


    Yeah, nuke Windows 7 and get a real operating system like Ubuntu. You
    can get Ubuntu free at http://www.ubuntu.com/. You'll be glad you did it.

    --
    Alias
     
  5. Richard Tanner

    Richard Tanner Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:

    >
    > I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >
    > The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    > that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >
    > Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    > respond.


    He was using his brains, says it all really.
     
  6. Dock@dock..com

    Dock@dock..com Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:12:54 +0100, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    >Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>
    >> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>
    >> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>
    >> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >> back in alphabetical order.
    >>
    >>
    >> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>
    >> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >
    >Yeah, nuke Windows 7 and get a real operating system like Ubuntu. You
    >can get Ubuntu free at http://www.ubuntu.com/. You'll be glad you did it.


    Ubuntu sucks balls. The day they figure out the amazingly complicated
    concept of how to easily allow a user to play a fucking CD or DVD may be
    the day that I halfway give it a chance.

    Or how about just plugging stuff like flash drives in and, wow, like
    actually having them work. That would be monumental and earth
    shattering.
     
  7. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:12:54 +0100, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>
    >>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>
    >>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >> Yeah, nuke Windows 7 and get a real operating system like Ubuntu. You
    >> can get Ubuntu free at http://www.ubuntu.com/. You'll be glad you did it.

    >
    > Ubuntu sucks balls. The day they figure out the amazingly complicated
    > concept of how to easily allow a user to play a fucking CD or DVD may be
    > the day that I halfway give it a chance.


    I just slip them into the optical drive and play them. You did install
    the Ubuntu restricted extras, right?

    >
    > Or how about just plugging stuff like flash drives in and, wow, like
    > actually having them work. That would be monumental and earth
    > shattering.


    Every flash drive I have used worked perfectly. I can see you haven't
    installed recently or ever. When I plugged my HP all in one into the USB
    port, it was up and running with less than five clicks, no CD necessary.

    --
    Alias
     
  8. MJMIII

    MJMIII Flightless Bird

    <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    news:gj7ul5hbb1hat6koku3f253ab2rtlk3onf@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >
    >>Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>
    >>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,

    >>2Audio,
    >>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>
    >>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >>
    >>
    >>I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>
    >>Just use the search feature.
    >>
    >>You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe, imho.
    >>
    >>YMMV.

    >
    > I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >
    > The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    > that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >
    > Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    > respond.


    In the short time Andy has been posting it was clear from the beginning he
    had the IQ of a plant.
    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
     
  9. Dock@dock..com

    Dock@dock..com Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:51:25 +0100, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    >Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:12:54 +0100, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>>
    >>>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >>>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can anyone give me some tips?
    >>> Yeah, nuke Windows 7 and get a real operating system like Ubuntu. You
    >>> can get Ubuntu free at http://www.ubuntu.com/. You'll be glad you did it.

    >>
    >> Ubuntu sucks balls. The day they figure out the amazingly complicated
    >> concept of how to easily allow a user to play a fucking CD or DVD may be
    >> the day that I halfway give it a chance.

    >
    >I just slip them into the optical drive and play them. You did install
    >the Ubuntu restricted extras, right?


    Well who the fuck knows? What are Ubuntu restricted extras? That is the
    thing about Ubuntu and Linux, there is always something extra to do.

    The day they dumb it down so that the majority of computer users can
    just use it and have it work is the day it may gain large market share.

    I mean, I have a job. I don't know computers that well. I am not a nerd.
    I have a family and a life and have to get other things done.

    Taking the time out to learn codes or command lines or this or that is
    time that the average American just doesn't have. Bill Gates understood
    that and he is what he is because of it.

    >
    >>
    >> Or how about just plugging stuff like flash drives in and, wow, like
    >> actually having them work. That would be monumental and earth
    >> shattering.

    >
    >Every flash drive I have used worked perfectly. I can see you haven't
    >installed recently or ever. When I plugged my HP all in one into the USB
    >port, it was up and running with less than five clicks, no CD necessary.


    Just as an example of the futility of Ubuntu and any Linux distro for
    the great majority of computer users allow me to use this example. I
    like to use the Opera browser. Well, with Windows, I just download it
    and install it and it works.

    That is good for me. That is good for regular Joe and Jane. Now, in
    order for me to use Opera on Ubuntu I have to do the below, which is
    just fucktastically complicated to me.

    Ready? Here is what you have to do just to run the Opera browser in
    Ubuntu:
    ---
    ------------
    ---------------------------------------
    Instructions to install & configure Opera 10 in Ubuntu.

    Introduction

    There are two basic types of installations, static and shared:

    Static version: Opera has the Qt library built in. It is a larger
    download, and it does not use anti aliased fonts on menus or the file
    chooser, and uses aliasing in the browser window and most other
    interface elements.

    Shared version: Opera uses the Qt installation on your system. It
    integrates with the system, using whatever anti aliasing setting you
    have for other Qt applications.

    Which is better? Probably the Shared version. Try the other one if you
    run into installation problems.

    Installation

    Install via repository (recommended)

    See this official documentation for info about adding repositories (it
    is easy). Install opera for shared version or opera-static for static
    version.

    You can use either official repositories for Ubuntu from Canonical or
    you can use the generic Opera repository. The advantage of the latter is
    that you usually get (often security) updates several days or more
    earlier, the advantage of the former might be that it gets more testing,
    but I am not sure.
    Using Opera repository

    deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free

    It is advisable that you add the Opera GPG key.
    wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -

    (If you get "The following packages cannot be authenticated" warnings,
    you'll also need this:)
    sudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring

    Using Ubuntu repository

    Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope

    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ jaunty partner

    Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex

    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ intrepid partner

    Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron

    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ hardy partner

    Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon

    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner

    Install via the shell

    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install opera

    Install after downloading deb package manually

    Go to Opera Download Site, choose your package, and pick a download
    mirror. This site does not offer a choice between Shared Qt and Static
    Qt, so if you have a preference, use this directory (be sure to choose a
    ..deb package). Save the file to somewhere you can find it, like the
    Desktop or your home directory. Then locate the .deb package and double
    click on it to start the Gdebi .deb installer.

    If you get messages about unmet dependencies type:
    sudo apt-get -f install

    apt will then install the missing packages.

    ---------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------


    WHHHHHAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?
     
  10. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    Dock@dock..com wrote:
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:51:25 +0100, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:12:54 +0100, Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>>>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>>>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >>>>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>>>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>>>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>>>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>>>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>>>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Can anyone give me some tips?
    >>>> Yeah, nuke Windows 7 and get a real operating system like Ubuntu. You
    >>>> can get Ubuntu free at http://www.ubuntu.com/. You'll be glad you did it.
    >>> Ubuntu sucks balls. The day they figure out the amazingly complicated
    >>> concept of how to easily allow a user to play a fucking CD or DVD may be
    >>> the day that I halfway give it a chance.

    >> I just slip them into the optical drive and play them. You did install
    >> the Ubuntu restricted extras, right?

    >
    > Well who the fuck knows? What are Ubuntu restricted extras? That is the
    > thing about Ubuntu and Linux, there is always something extra to do.


    With Windows, Flash, Java, Adobe reader, etc. need to be installed
    separately. With Ubuntu, to install ALL of them, it's two clicks.

    >
    > The day they dumb it down so that the majority of computer users can
    > just use it and have it work is the day it may gain large market share.


    See above.

    >
    > I mean, I have a job. I don't know computers that well. I am not a nerd.
    > I have a family and a life and have to get other things done.


    See above.

    >
    > Taking the time out to learn codes or command lines or this or that is
    > time that the average American just doesn't have. Bill Gates understood
    > that and he is what he is because of it.


    I haven't used a command line in ages. Windows has one too, it's called
    "CMD".

    >
    >>> Or how about just plugging stuff like flash drives in and, wow, like
    >>> actually having them work. That would be monumental and earth
    >>> shattering.

    >> Every flash drive I have used worked perfectly. I can see you haven't
    >> installed recently or ever. When I plugged my HP all in one into the USB
    >> port, it was up and running with less than five clicks, no CD necessary.

    >
    > Just as an example of the futility of Ubuntu and any Linux distro for
    > the great majority of computer users allow me to use this example. I
    > like to use the Opera browser. Well, with Windows, I just download it
    > and install it and it works.
    >
    > That is good for me. That is good for regular Joe and Jane. Now, in
    > order for me to use Opera on Ubuntu I have to do the below, which is
    > just fucktastically complicated to me.


    See below and notice that Karmic, the latest version of Ubuntu, isn't
    included in that method of installing Opera. Now, it's in the
    repositories and only a few clicks away.

    >
    > Ready? Here is what you have to do just to run the Opera browser in
    > Ubuntu:
    > ---
    > ------------
    > ---------------------------------------
    > Instructions to install & configure Opera 10 in Ubuntu.
    >
    > Introduction
    >
    > There are two basic types of installations, static and shared:
    >
    > Static version: Opera has the Qt library built in. It is a larger
    > download, and it does not use anti aliased fonts on menus or the file
    > chooser, and uses aliasing in the browser window and most other
    > interface elements.
    >
    > Shared version: Opera uses the Qt installation on your system. It
    > integrates with the system, using whatever anti aliasing setting you
    > have for other Qt applications.
    >
    > Which is better? Probably the Shared version. Try the other one if you
    > run into installation problems.
    >
    > Installation
    >
    > Install via repository (recommended)
    >
    > See this official documentation for info about adding repositories (it
    > is easy). Install opera for shared version or opera-static for static
    > version.
    >
    > You can use either official repositories for Ubuntu from Canonical or
    > you can use the generic Opera repository. The advantage of the latter is
    > that you usually get (often security) updates several days or more
    > earlier, the advantage of the former might be that it gets more testing,
    > but I am not sure.
    > Using Opera repository
    >
    > deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
    >
    > It is advisable that you add the Opera GPG key.
    > wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
    >
    > (If you get "The following packages cannot be authenticated" warnings,
    > you'll also need this:)
    > sudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring
    >
    > Using Ubuntu repository
    >
    > Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope
    >
    > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ jaunty partner
    >
    > Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
    >
    > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ intrepid partner
    >
    > Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
    >
    > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ hardy partner
    >
    > Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
    >
    > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner
    >
    > Install via the shell
    >
    > sudo apt-get update
    > sudo apt-get install opera
    >
    > Install after downloading deb package manually
    >
    > Go to Opera Download Site, choose your package, and pick a download
    > mirror. This site does not offer a choice between Shared Qt and Static
    > Qt, so if you have a preference, use this directory (be sure to choose a
    > .deb package). Save the file to somewhere you can find it, like the
    > Desktop or your home directory. Then locate the .deb package and double
    > click on it to start the Gdebi .deb installer.
    >
    > If you get messages about unmet dependencies type:
    > sudo apt-get -f install
    >
    > apt will then install the missing packages.
    >
    > ---------------------
    > -----------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    > WHHHHHAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?


    See above and try to open your mind a bit.

    --
    Alias
     
  11. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    news:gj7ul5hbb1hat6koku3f253ab2rtlk3onf@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >>Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>
    >>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>
    >>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,

    >>2Audio,
    >>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>
    >>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>
    >>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >>
    >>I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>
    >>Just use the search feature.
    >>
    >>You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe, imho.
    >>
    >>YMMV.

    >
    > I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >
    > The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    > that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >
    > Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    > respond.



    Well I was going to respond but am now afraid that if my answer doesn't live
    up to your expectations you might berate me and hurt my feelings.

    So I'll just keep my answer to myself...
     
  12. Jeff@couldbeinvalid.com

    Jeff@couldbeinvalid.com Flightless Bird

    On 1/26/2010 1:56 PM, Seth wrote:
    > <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    > news:gj7ul5hbb1hat6koku3f253ab2rtlk3onf@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >>> Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>>
    >>>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,
    >>> 2Audio,
    >>>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can anyone give me some tips?
    >>>
    >>> I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>>
    >>> Just use the search feature.
    >>>
    >>> You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe,
    >>> imho.
    >>>
    >>> YMMV.

    >>
    >> I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >>
    >> The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    >> that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >>
    >> Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    >> respond.

    >
    >
    > Well I was going to respond but am now afraid that if my answer doesn't
    > live up to your expectations you might berate me and hurt my feelings.
    >
    > So I'll just keep my answer to myself...
    >

    Love your answer. :))

    Jeff
     
  13. MJMIII

    MJMIII Flightless Bird

    Seth, don't lump yourself in the same category as Andy. I've read some of
    your responses and you have nothing to fear. Andy is a bonafide moron.

    --


    "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


    "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:hjndsk$46q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    > news:gj7ul5hbb1hat6koku3f253ab2rtlk3onf@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >>>Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>>
    >>>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,
    >>>2Audio,
    >>>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can anyone give me some tips?
    >>>
    >>>I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>>
    >>>Just use the search feature.
    >>>
    >>>You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe, imho.
    >>>
    >>>YMMV.

    >>
    >> I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >>
    >> The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    >> that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >>
    >> Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    >> respond.

    >
    >
    > Well I was going to respond but am now afraid that if my answer doesn't
    > live up to your expectations you might berate me and hurt my feelings.
    >
    > So I'll just keep my answer to myself...
    >
     
  14. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    <Dock@dock..com> wrote in message news:9jqtl55lgmedh4db3c9q9fcg5qdc291d0o@4ax.com...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    > and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >
    > My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    > the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >
    > I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    > 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    > the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >
    > Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    > them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    > varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    > back in alphabetical order.
    >
    >
    > I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    > Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >
    > Can anyone give me some tips?


    I'm running Win7 64 , one account as admin. Normally I have the start menu set to
    sort by name but I have just cleared that box and moved a few folders around in the
    All programs menu and they seem to stick where I set them even after a few re-boots.
    Can you tell when yours reset themselves, after a re-boot or when something else happens?
     
  15. Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del

    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:56:18 -0500, "Seth"
    <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

    ><Dock@dock..com> wrote in message
    >news:gj7ul5hbb1hat6koku3f253ab2rtlk3onf@4ax.com...
    >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:27 -0600, Andy <a@b.c> wrote:
    >>>Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >>>> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>>>
    >>>> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >>>> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry,
    >>>2Audio,
    >>>> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >>>> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >>>> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >>>> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >>>> back in alphabetical order.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >>>> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can anyone give me some tips?
    >>>
    >>>I adopted the philosophy of "why bother?"
    >>>
    >>>Just use the search feature.
    >>>
    >>>You don't "really" need to order the directories like you describe, imho.
    >>>
    >>>YMMV.

    >>
    >> I hope others will respond. Your response was useless.
    >>
    >> The part about using the search feature to find icons on my start menu
    >> that will not arrange themselves properly is amazingly stupid.
    >>
    >> Why respond to the post at all? Just let people that have brains
    >> respond.

    >
    >
    >Well I was going to respond but am now afraid that if my answer doesn't live
    >up to your expectations you might berate me and hurt my feelings.
    >
    >So I'll just keep my answer to myself...


    Why are you responding at all, if that is the case? I was genuinely
    asking for some help and got trolled and told to use the search feature
    to find icons that aren't arranging themselves properly.

    And you fault me for responding in the manner that I did? For God's
    sake, his advice was to simply don't worry about it.

    This could not have been for real.
     
  16. Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del

    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:42:13 -0000, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

    >
    ><Dock@dock..com> wrote in message news:9jqtl55lgmedh4db3c9q9fcg5qdc291d0o@4ax.com...
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>
    >> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>
    >> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>
    >> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >> back in alphabetical order.
    >>
    >>
    >> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>
    >> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >
    >I'm running Win7 64 , one account as admin. Normally I have the start menu set to
    >sort by name but I have just cleared that box and moved a few folders around in the
    >All programs menu and they seem to stick where I set them even after a few re-boots.
    >Can you tell when yours reset themselves, after a re-boot or when something else happens?


    Give it time, Dave.

    I haven't been able to nail down exactly what I am doing when they
    change. I do stuff on the computer, open programs, browse the web, work
    in my file manager, listen to songs, etc... and when I go back to the
    start menu, wam, they are all back in alphabetical order.

    Like you, I have rearranged them and shut down and restarted and they
    would stick, so I would think I had it working correctly. But, they
    always change back.
     
  17. DanS

    DanS Flightless Bird

    >>> Ubuntu sucks balls. The day they figure out the amazingly
    >>> complicated concept of how to easily allow a user to play a fucking
    >>> CD or DVD may be the day that I halfway give it a chance.

    >>
    >>I just slip them into the optical drive and play them. You did install
    >>the Ubuntu restricted extras, right?

    >
    > Well who the fuck knows? What are Ubuntu restricted extras? That is
    > the thing about Ubuntu and Linux, there is always something extra to
    > do.
    >
    > The day they dumb it down so that the majority of computer users can
    > just use it and have it work is the day it may gain large market
    > share.
    >
    > I mean, I have a job. I don't know computers that well. I am not a
    > nerd. I have a family and a life and have to get other things done.
    >
    > Taking the time out to learn codes or command lines or this or that is
    > time that the average American just doesn't have. Bill Gates
    > understood that and he is what he is because of it.


    Well you're taking time out now to try to figure out how to not let the
    Start menu sort how *it* wants to sort, so what's the difference ?

    >>>
    >>> Or how about just plugging stuff like flash drives in and, wow, like
    >>> actually having them work. That would be monumental and earth
    >>> shattering.

    >>
    >>Every flash drive I have used worked perfectly. I can see you haven't
    >>installed recently or ever. When I plugged my HP all in one into the
    >>USB port, it was up and running with less than five clicks, no CD
    >>necessary.

    >
    > Just as an example of the futility of Ubuntu and any Linux distro for
    > the great majority of computer users allow me to use this example. I
    > like to use the Opera browser. Well, with Windows, I just download it
    > and install it and it works.
    >
    > That is good for me. That is good for regular Joe and Jane. Now, in
    > order for me to use Opera on Ubuntu I have to do the below, which is
    > just fucktastically complicated to me.
    >
    > Ready? Here is what you have to do just to run the Opera browser in
    > Ubuntu:
    > ---
    > ------------


    (Snipped what you believed to be required for installing Opera.)

    I would (and have) go to this web page.....

    http://linuxappfinder.com/package/opera

    and click the big "INSTALL NOW" link. Or d/l the install file and dbl-
    click it.....just like in Windows.

    Almost every app at LinuxAppFinder.com has a big 'ol 'Install Now'
    button....

    .......easy enough for *any* Windows user.
     
  18. Van Chocstraw

    Van Chocstraw Flightless Bird

    On 01/26/2010 08:26 AM, Dock@dock..com wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    > and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >
    > My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    > the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >
    > I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    > 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    > the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >
    > Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    > them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    > varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    > back in alphabetical order.
    >
    >
    > I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    > Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >
    > Can anyone give me some tips?


    Alphabetical is quite handy and easy to find things; if you know your
    alphabet.
     
  19. Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del

    Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:56:35 -0500, Van Chocstraw
    <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:

    >On 01/26/2010 08:26 AM, Dock@dock..com wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I am using Windows 7 x64 as an administrator. I only have one account
    >> and it is an administrative account, in case that was relevant.
    >>
    >> My problem is that no matter how many times I rearrange my folders in
    >> the All Programs start menu, they always go back to alphabetical order.
    >>
    >> I've had to resort to numbering my folders like this: 1Registry, 2Audio,
    >> 3Video,4Graphics, 5Accessories, etc... just to keep the main folders on
    >> the start menu in an order that I choose.
    >>
    >> Sorting the icons within these folders is futile also. I can rearrange
    >> them all day and they will stay in the order I put them in for a bit,
    >> varying time periods, but they always will ultimately put themselves
    >> back in alphabetical order.
    >>
    >>
    >> I have the "Sort All Programs menu by name" option in the Customize
    >> Start Menu dialog unchecked.
    >>
    >> Can anyone give me some tips?

    >
    >Alphabetical is quite handy and easy to find things; if you know your
    >alphabet.


    Alphabetical is silly and boring and not efficient. I would rather, for
    the sake of fluidity, group together folders such as audio with ones
    such as video, etc...

    Hey, thanks for the comment though, that was really helpful.
     
  20. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "MJMIII" <balrog@castaway.net> wrote in message
    news:8bGdnVs2M73xo8LWnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    > Seth, don't lump yourself in the same category as Andy. I've read some of
    > your responses and you have nothing to fear. Andy is a bonafide moron.



    Thanks for the compliment...

    But I do have to say, the answer to which Dock got his/her panties in a
    bunch was actually an accurate suggestion. May not be exactly what was being
    looked for, but it does work and could alleviate a users need for the start
    menu.

    Me, I have my most common items set for the Quick Launch menu. Those as
    well as secondary items are "Pinned" to the Start Menu. Pretty much
    everything else I do by the same method. Just type enough into the Instant
    Search box and it runs from there.
     

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