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Need a new Boot manager

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Splork, Jun 19, 2010.

  1. Splork

    Splork Flightless Bird

    Hi,

    I am building a new system. Will use XP and eventually install
    Win7 on another partition.

    I like keeping things separate. Previously used FAT32 and
    System Commander. System Commander requires a fat partition.

    If I create a fat partition, above or below the target
    partition, XP installs it's boot files there and labels it
    drive C: D: gets the windows install.

    Leaving all the unused space on the drive
    unpartitioned/unformatted I get XP properly installed on the
    Second partition area. System Commander will not function
    though. I suppose I could try adding the fat partition after
    the OS install, but that gets cumbersome when it comes time to
    install Win7. Deleting the dos partition to install Win7 makes
    the boot manager fail. Would be lots of creating and deleting
    that partition if it succeeds at all.

    Is there a boot manager that you folks know about that will
    allow me to have the booted OS show up as drive C:

    Win 98 and WinXP coexisted well and behaved under system
    commander. Can I get this functionality back for NTFS OSs

    Suggestions welcome
     
  2. Trimble Bracegirdle

    Trimble Bracegirdle Flightless Bird

    Its best to have different O/S's on different Physical drives
    then switch between them by selecting in the Motherboard BIOS the disk
    to boot first.

    You will have to find a new Boot Manager but bear in mind that Windows 7
    own boot manager can competently cope with Multi-boot
    with other older O/S's.

    Install the newest system first then older onto that.
    All versions of Windows ever, require use of the first part of a HD
    Boot Sector (shared or not) to start.

    Do you really need FAT32 ???? convert to NFTS if possible.
    Remember FAT32 can not do files larger than 4 GB & cannot
    manage large modern disc capacities over 32GB with out problems.
    (\__/)
    (='.':]
    (")_(") mouse
     
  3. Doum

    Doum Flightless Bird

    "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> écrivait news:hvjo6k$kni$1
    @news.eternal-september.org:

    > Its best to have different O/S's on different Physical drives
    > then switch between them by selecting in the Motherboard BIOS the disk
    > to boot first.
    >
    > You will have to find a new Boot Manager but bear in mind that Windows 7
    > own boot manager can competently cope with Multi-boot
    > with other older O/S's.
    >
    > Install the newest system first then older onto that.
    > All versions of Windows ever, require use of the first part of a HD
    > Boot Sector (shared or not) to start.
    >

    <snip>
    > (\__/)
    > (='.':]
    > (")_(") mouse
    >
    >
    >


    I was always told to install the OLDEST OS first and it has always worked
    for me.

    On one system, XP was installed first and when I installed Seven, its boot
    manager was installed and it works perfectly.

    When I boot in XP, the drive where XP is installed shows up as "C" and when
    I boot in Seven the drive where Seven is installed shows up as "C". I don't
    need to go to the BIOS. I think the Seven boot manager is installed on the
    XP drive since it's the first hard disk in the BIOS.
     
  4. Seth

    Seth Flightless Bird

    "Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
    news:hvjo6k$kni$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >
    > Install the newest system first then older onto that.
    > All versions of Windows ever, require use of the first part of a HD
    > Boot Sector (shared or not) to start.


    Oldest first. If you install Win7 first, the XP boot menu won't recognize
    it. Install XP first and the Win7 boot menu will.
     
  5. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:42:59 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
    <no-spam@never.spam> wrote:


    > Do you really need FAT32 ???? convert to NFTS if possible.



    I agree.


    > Remember FAT32 can not do files larger than 4 GB



    True.


    > & cannot
    > manage large modern disc capacities over 32GB with out problems.




    But not true.

    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
     
  6. Trimble Bracegirdle

    Trimble Bracegirdle Flightless Bird

    >>>>> "& cannot
    > manage large modern disc capacities over 32GB with out problems

    ....not true." ?????

    Really ?! I mean would it really be sensible & problem free to format
    a 1TB drive with FAT32 ??? (one single partition)
    (\__/)
    (='.':]
    (")_(") mouse (I Like Girls With Big Clusters)
     
  7. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:44:34 +0100, "Trimble Bracegirdle"
    <no-spam@never.spam> wrote:

    > >>>>> "& cannot

    > > manage large modern disc capacities over 32GB with out problems


    > ...not true." ?????
    >
    > Really ?! I mean would it really be sensible & problem free to format
    > a 1TB drive with FAT32 ??? (one single partition)




    LOL! You are equating "disc capacities over 32GB with "1TB"?

    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
     

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