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My HP Pavilion Q8200 scores low

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Ritter197, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. Ritter197

    Ritter197 Flightless Bird

    My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

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    MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    points.
    HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    Any ideas here???
     
  2. Elmo

    Elmo Flightless Bird

    Ritter197 wrote:
    > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same
    > CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    > points.
    > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    > Any ideas here???


    Here's an idea.. post where you got this "score".

    --
    Joe =o)
     
  3. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:-O5tqHLr1KHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    > points.
    > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    > Any ideas here???
    >
    >


    Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost
    http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    --
    SC Tom

    "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
    any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
    Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
     
  4. Ritter197

    Ritter197 Flightless Bird

    I got this score from Pass Mark Performance Test 7.0

    "Elmo" <elmogeek@xxx.invalid> wrote in message
    news:enHV5cr1KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Ritter197 wrote:
    >> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >>
    >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>
    >> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    >> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    >> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    >> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same
    >> CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    >> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    >> points.
    >> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    >> Any ideas here???

    >
    > Here's an idea.. post where you got this "score".
    >
    > --
    > Joe =o)
     
  5. Ritter197

    Ritter197 Flightless Bird

    OK, noted. Thanks.

    "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
    news:-Oy43n1r1KHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:-O5tqHLr1KHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >>
    >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    >> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    >> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    >> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    >> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    >> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    >> points.
    >> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    >> Any ideas here???
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost
    > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    > --
    > SC Tom
    >
    > "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
    > any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
    > Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
    >
     
  6. Andrew E.

    Andrew E. Flightless Bird

    Compare any two pc cpu specs isnt saying much.Unless they are identical,
    pc speed tests will always be diffrent,one pc may run SATA/RAID,data transfer
    will outperform any single IDE or single SATA hd,plus many other factors.Even
    the settings with a page file will change CPU speed,8 or 20MB of ram would'nt
    matter.One other item,hp & dell,usually install the wimpiest hardware they
    can get away with...

    "Ritter197" wrote:

    > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    > points.
    > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    > Any ideas here???
    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  7. Robert Macy

    Robert Macy Flightless Bird

    On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...@Comcast.net> wrote:
    > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
    >
    > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    > points.
    > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    > Any ideas here???


    hardware or software? just a shot in the dark:

    any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?

    Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a
    factor of two. Right?
     
  8. Robert Macy

    Robert Macy Flightless Bird

    On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy <m...@california.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...@Comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    > > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

    >
    > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-----

    >
    > > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    > > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    > > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    > > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    > > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    > > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    > > points.
    > > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    > > Any ideas here???

    >
    > hardware or software?  just a shot in the dark:
    >
    > any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?
    >
    > Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a
    > factor of two.  Right?


    I meant one bus cycle
     
  9. SC Tom

    SC Tom Flightless Bird

    I used to play the benchmark game years ago, and for the most part, all it
    did was frustrate me. "Why isn't my 486 as fast another identical 486?"
    Well, there are hundreds of reasons (or more) of why not. Different
    revisions of CPU's, motherboards, add-in cards, etc. will cause a wider
    difference in scores than one would think. Different RAM manufacturers (and
    sometimes the same manufacturers since they get their chips from different
    makers who have different plants, etc.) will cause a difference, even though
    the RAM is rated the same. All those little differences add up to create a
    slower or faster bottom line.

    When I was working, we'd get a number of PC's in that were supposed to be
    the same. Most times, they even had sequential serial numbers. Invariably,
    there would be one or two out of the dozen or so that we got at a time that
    were noticeably slower than the rest. Same CPU, HDD, CD, RAM, MB, software,
    etc. But without even using a benchmark program, you could tell this one
    wasn't up to par.

    For grins and giggles, I ran PT7 and compared my system to similar ones.
    Comparing CPU's, mine was on a par with or slower than other AMD Athlon 64
    X2 Dual Core 4800+ CPU's. Overall scores were slightly higher than similar
    systems with the same MB, but not enough to brag about.
    Some of the test results available for comparison were so wildly different,
    I'd like to see how the systems were set up. When two supposedly identical
    systems have a 1000 point difference, how can you verify the validity of the
    testing procedure or the tester? In fact, re-running the test within the
    hour got me a 50 point difference from the previous results.

    The bottom line is that benchmark programs really don't mean anything. If
    your PC makes you happy, and runs the stuff you want it to run in a manner
    you'd like it to run, then your PC is plenty fast. If you're having problems
    with some program, then it's time to delve into the reasons why that may be.
    --
    SC Tom

    "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
    any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
    Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

    "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:-OFAudCs1KHA.5828@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > OK, noted. Thanks.
    >
    > "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
    > news:-Oy43n1r1KHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
    >> news:-O5tqHLr1KHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >>>
    >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>
    >>> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    >>> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    >>> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    >>> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same
    >>> CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and
    >>> higher.
    >>> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    >>> points.
    >>> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    >>> Any ideas here???
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost
    >> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >> --
    >> SC Tom
    >>
    >> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
    >> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
    >> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
    >>
     
  10. Ritter197

    Ritter197 Flightless Bird

    The CPU scores always low. The memory scores high with 8 GB RAM.
    I compare it to other CPUs in the worldwide database with same CPU and same
    Graphics cards, and it always the CPU that scores low on mine and high on
    the other. Always.

    "Robert Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
    news:ab38517b-cfd1-446e-a63d-1426a10a6bd0@i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
    > On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...@Comcast.net> wrote:
    >> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared
    >>
    >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
    >>
    >> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,
    >> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    >> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    >> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,
    >> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    >> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore
    >> points.
    >> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    >> Any ideas here???

    >
    > hardware or software? just a shot in the dark:
    >
    > any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?
    >
    > Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a
    > factor of two. Right?
     
  11. Ritter197

    Ritter197 Flightless Bird

    How can I check the 1 bus cycle???

    "Robert Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
    news:e647782e-84c3-4785-924f-80d70ffe901a@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy <m...@california.com> wrote:
    >> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...@Comcast.net> wrote:
    >>
    >> > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

    >>
    >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-----

    >>
    >> > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other
    >> > CPUs,
    >> > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    >> > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    >> > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same
    >> > CPU,
    >> > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    >> > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced
    >> > Restore
    >> > points.
    >> > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    >> > Any ideas here???

    >>
    >> hardware or software? just a shot in the dark:
    >>
    >> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?
    >>
    >> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a
    >> factor of two. Right?

    >
    > I meant one bus cycle
     
  12. B&E

    B&E Flightless Bird


    > The bottom line is that benchmark programs really don't mean anything.
    > If your PC makes you happy, and runs the stuff you want it to run in a
    > manner you'd like it to run, then your PC is plenty fast. If you're
    > having problems with some program, then it's time to delve into the
    > reasons why that may be.



    Couldnt have said it better myself; Its a shame when ppl are too
    fussed to 'know' (most dont) how their PC rates etc, as opposed to
    simply sitting back and enjoying what they got.
    I use a comp everyday, and it serves me well, and sure as heck aint
    running win7 or its two priors.

    2bobs worth. (anyone lend me two bob?)
     
  13. Robert Macy

    Robert Macy Flightless Bird

    On Apr 8, 10:40 am, "Ritter197" <Ritter...@Comcast.net> wrote:
    > How can I check the 1 bus cycle???
    >
    > "Robert Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:e647782e-84c3-4785-924f-80d70ffe901a@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy <m...@california.com> wrote:
    > >> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" <Ritter...@Comcast.net> wrote:

    >
    > >> > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

    >
    > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­-----

    >
    > >> > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other
    > >> > CPUs,
    > >> > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,
    > >> > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.
    > >> > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same
    > >> > CPU,
    > >> > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.
    > >> > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced
    > >> > Restore
    > >> > points.
    > >> > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.
    > >> > Any ideas here???

    >
    > >> hardware or software?  just a shot in the dark:

    >
    > >> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?

    >
    > >> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a
    > >> factor of two.  Right?

    >
    > > I meant one bus cycle


    I use a Logic Analyzer.

    I'm out of my league now. with regard to whether a wait state is
    inserted because it was sensed [meaning the RAM, etc is too slow] or
    whether it is put in by software. Anybody know out there?
     

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