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MSE info please

J

joe

Flightless Bird
I have winxp pro sp3.

I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.

Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV programs
if I do install?

I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes and
other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?

tia
 
D

David H. Lipman

Flightless Bird
From: "joe" <joe@ebox.com>

| I have winxp pro sp3.

| I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.

| Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV programs
| if I do install?

| I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
| comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes and
| other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?

| tia


Recommend you use Avira AntiVir and Malwarebytes' anti malware. NOT MSE.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
D

David Webb

Flightless Bird
Some tips:

You don't want to uninstall your AV app before starting the MSE installation.
The MSE setup will walk you through steps, one of which is to uninstall your AV
app before continuing the setup.

Also, you do not want to install MSE offline since during one of the setup steps
it needs to access the web in order to download the latest virus & spyware
definitions.

After successfully installing MSE, all other spyware, malware, and AV
apps/utilities can be uninstalled.

Note: MSE only checks for virus & spyware definition updates prior to running a
system scan, so be sure that the scheduled scan is realistic.


"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:-OfrHzoqkKHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I have winxp pro sp3.
>
> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV programs
> if I do install?
>
> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes and
> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>
> tia
>
>
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
David Webb wrote:
> Some tips:
>
> You don't want to uninstall your AV app before starting the MSE installation.


Certainly you can if the machine is disconnected from the internet.
 
R

Ron Hirsch

Flightless Bird
Sorry Joe, I inadvertently sent this post to you rather than the newsgroup.
So I'm sending it again

I got rid of AVG paid some time back, and switched to MSE. I keep
Malwarebytes (paid) on for real time protectiom, and see no problems. I also
have Superantispyware (paid) which I use to periodically run a scan. But I
don't have it on in real time protection, so the free version would probably
work as well here.

But I would not run MSE with other AV programs. And MS says that Windows
Defender must be uninstalled when usng MSE.

MSE has updates daily, and has a smaller footprint than AVG. When I cleaned
out AVG, I couldn't believe all the garbage that was left over from all
versions since 7.5. The Registry had hundreds of useless left over entries,
which I removed.

Everything I see and read says that MSE is a good choice. but, as with all
security software, nothing is perfect. So some extra help should also be
used.

Ron Hirsch








"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:-OfrHzoqkKHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have winxp pro sp3.
>
> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
> programs if I do install?
>
> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes
> and other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>
> tia
>
>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
MSE Support Forums
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse

A1. Yes, then run the appropriate removal tool, too, if need be.

A2. MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is NOT an anti-virus application.

See...

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/internet-security/274933/free-anti-virus-applications-compared

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars

[OT @David: Give MSE another look in a few weeks. <w>]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


joe wrote:
> I have winxp pro sp3.
>
> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
> programs
> if I do install?
>
> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes
> and
> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>
> tia
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "joe" <joe@ebox.com>
>
>> I have winxp pro sp3.

>
>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security
>> Essentials.

>
>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>> programs if I do install?

>
>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really
>> appreciate any comments from you guys here. I still see
>> recomendations for Malwarebytes and other stuff. So how many people
>> here are in favourof MSE ?

>
>> tia

>
>
> Recommend you use Avira AntiVir and Malwarebytes' anti malware. NOT
> MSE.


I also like Avira and MBAM, and I use this combination, too. But I am
curious as to why you don't like MSE.
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
I didn't suggest MalwareBytes was an av application, clearly it is a malware
detection program. just indicating one of several programs continually being
recommended here to posters for protection of some kind. I have rarely seen
MSE put forward for use in this newsgroup, hense my request for comments
from the experts.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:-O$VKaptkKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> MSE Support Forums
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
>
> A1. Yes, then run the appropriate removal tool, too, if need be.
>
> A2. MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is NOT an anti-virus application.
>
> See...
>
> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/internet-security/274933/free-anti-virus-applications-compared
>
> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars
>
> [OT @David: Give MSE another look in a few weeks. <w>]
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> www.banthecheck.com
>
>
> joe wrote:
>> I have winxp pro sp3.
>>
>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>>
>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>> programs
>> if I do install?
>>
>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
>> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes
>> and
>> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>>
>> tia

>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
And unless you purchase the paid version of MBAM, it doesn't provide any
real-time protection (unlike Windows Defender).

See the references I posted in my first reply to see how well MSE fairs in
comparative tests.

<QP>
Norton AntiVirus 2010, Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0, avast! Free 5.0
and seven others received three stars (the highest rating ADVANCED+); AVIRA
AntiVir Premium 9.0 eked out the highest score.
</QP>
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php

<QP>
....AV-Comparatives rated the security companies from best to worst in four
separate categories:

Advanced+: eScan, Symantec, Microsoft, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Bitdefender
Advanced: ESET, Sophos, AVG, McAfee, Avast, AVIRA, Trustport
Standard: Norman, G DATA
Tested: Kingsoft
</QP>
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars


joe wrote:
> I didn't suggest MalwareBytes was an av application, clearly it is a
> malware
> detection program. just indicating one of several programs continually
> being
> recommended here to posters for protection of some kind. I have rarely
> seen
> MSE put forward for use in this newsgroup, hense my request for comments
> from the experts.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-O$VKaptkKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> MSE Support Forums
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
>>
>> A1. Yes, then run the appropriate removal tool, too, if need be.
>>
>> A2. MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is NOT an anti-virus application.
>>
>> See...
>>
>> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/internet-security/274933/free-anti-virus-applications-compared
>>
>> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars
>>
>> [OT @David: Give MSE another look in a few weeks. <w>]
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> www.banthecheck.com
>>
>>
>> joe wrote:
>>> I have winxp pro sp3.
>>>
>>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>>>
>>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>>> programs
>>> if I do install?
>>>
>>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate
>>> any
>>> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes
>>> and
>>> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>>>
>>> tia
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Jan 11, 11:33 am, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> David H. Lipman wrote:
> > From: "joe" <j...@ebox.com>

>
> >> I have winxp pro sp3.

>
> >> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security
> >> Essentials.

>
> >> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
> >> programs if I do install?

>
> >> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really
> >> appreciate any comments from you guys here. I still see
> >> recomendations for Malwarebytes and other stuff. So how many people
> >> here are in favourof MSE ?

>
> >> tia

>
> > Recommend you use Avira AntiVir and Malwarebytes' anti malware.  NOT
> > MSE.

>
> I also like Avira and MBAM, and I use this combination, too. But I am
> curious as to why you don't like MSE.


Not responding just to Daave, but my feeling is MS is not in the
malicious software detection or removal business.

Leave stuff like that to people that have more expertise.

I will never, ever, ever again waste my time with any MS tools of this
nature.
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
Well those tests all pass MSE with flying colours. Still waiting to see if
there are any more comments from the group.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23jVqIcukKHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> And unless you purchase the paid version of MBAM, it doesn't provide any
> real-time protection (unlike Windows Defender).
>
> See the references I posted in my first reply to see how well MSE fairs in
> comparative tests.
>
> <QP>
> Norton AntiVirus 2010, Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0, avast! Free 5.0
> and seven others received three stars (the highest rating ADVANCED+);
> AVIRA AntiVir Premium 9.0 eked out the highest score.
> </QP>
> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php
>
> <QP>
> ...AV-Comparatives rated the security companies from best to worst in four
> separate categories:
>
> Advanced+: eScan, Symantec, Microsoft, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Bitdefender
> Advanced: ESET, Sophos, AVG, McAfee, Avast, AVIRA, Trustport
> Standard: Norman, G DATA
> Tested: Kingsoft
> </QP>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars
>
>
> joe wrote:
>> I didn't suggest MalwareBytes was an av application, clearly it is a
>> malware
>> detection program. just indicating one of several programs continually
>> being
>> recommended here to posters for protection of some kind. I have rarely
>> seen
>> MSE put forward for use in this newsgroup, hense my request for comments
>> from the experts.
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:-O$VKaptkKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> MSE Support Forums
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
>>>
>>> A1. Yes, then run the appropriate removal tool, too, if need be.
>>>
>>> A2. MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is NOT an anti-virus application.
>>>
>>> See...
>>>
>>> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/internet-security/274933/free-anti-virus-applications-compared
>>>
>>> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars
>>>
>>> [OT @David: Give MSE another look in a few weeks. <w>]
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>> www.banthecheck.com
>>>
>>>
>>> joe wrote:
>>>> I have winxp pro sp3.
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>>>>
>>>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>>>> programs
>>>> if I do install?
>>>>
>>>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate
>>>> any
>>>> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for
>>>> Malwarebytes
>>>> and
>>>> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>>>>
>>>> tia

>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
Why not ask actual MSE users here instead? =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/msestart/threads

90% of my clients are running MSE now.

joe wrote:
> Well those tests all pass MSE with flying colours. Still waiting to see if
> there are any more comments from the group.
>
>> And unless you purchase the paid version of MBAM, it doesn't provide any
>> real-time protection (unlike Windows Defender).
>>
>> See the references I posted in my first reply to see how well MSE fairs
>> in
>> comparative tests.
>>
>> <QP>
>> Norton AntiVirus 2010, Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0, avast! Free 5.0
>> and seven others received three stars (the highest rating ADVANCED+);
>> AVIRA AntiVir Premium 9.0 eked out the highest score.
>> </QP>
>> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php
>>
>> <QP>
>> ...AV-Comparatives rated the security companies from best to worst in
>> four
>> separate categories:
>>
>> Advanced+: eScan, Symantec, Microsoft, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Bitdefender
>> Advanced: ESET, Sophos, AVG, McAfee, Avast, AVIRA, Trustport
>> Standard: Norman, G DATA
>> Tested: Kingsoft
>> </QP>
>> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars
>>
>>
>> joe wrote:
>>> I didn't suggest MalwareBytes was an av application, clearly it is a
>>> malware
>>> detection program. just indicating one of several programs continually
>>> being
>>> recommended here to posters for protection of some kind. I have rarely
>>> seen
>>> MSE put forward for use in this newsgroup, hense my request for comments
>>> from the experts.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-O$VKaptkKHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> MSE Support Forums
>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
>>>>
>>>> A1. Yes, then run the appropriate removal tool, too, if need be.
>>>>
>>>> A2. MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is NOT an anti-virus application.
>>>>
>>>> See...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/internet-security/274933/free-anti-virus-applications-compared
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-comparatives_rates_anti-mal.php
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars
>>>>
>>>> [OT @David: Give MSE another look in a few weeks. <w>]
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> www.banthecheck.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> joe wrote:
>>>>> I have winxp pro sp3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>>>>> programs
>>>>> if I do install?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate
>>>>> any
>>>>> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for
>>>>> Malwarebytes
>>>>> and
>>>>> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>>>>>
>>>>> tia
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Jose wrote:
> On Jan 11, 11:33 am, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "joe" <j...@ebox.com>

>>
>>>> I have winxp pro sp3.

>>
>>>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security
>>>> Essentials.

>>
>>>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>>>> programs if I do install?

>>
>>>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really
>>>> appreciate any comments from you guys here. I still see
>>>> recomendations for Malwarebytes and other stuff. So how many people
>>>> here are in favourof MSE ?

>>
>>>> tia

>>
>>> Recommend you use Avira AntiVir and Malwarebytes' anti malware. NOT
>>> MSE.

>>
>> I also like Avira and MBAM, and I use this combination, too. But I am
>> curious as to why you don't like MSE.

>
> Not responding just to Daave, but my feeling is MS is not in the
> malicious software detection or removal business.
>
> Leave stuff like that to people that have more expertise.
>
> I will never, ever, ever again waste my time with any MS tools of this
> nature.


I have never used MS antimalware tools, either, and I'm not itching to
try right now, either. However, a number of people have reported
positive things about MSE, and if there is anything specifically
problematic about it, I'd like to know what it is.
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
On Jan 11, 1:28 pm, "joe" <j...@ebox.com> wrote:
> Well those tests all pass MSE with flying colours. Still waiting to see if
> there are any more comments from the group.
>


Which tests?

I have easily dispensable systems I get infected on purpose to help me
understand how things happen and to learn how fix them. Idon't sit
around and wait for something to happen, I go looking for it.

If somebody has malicious software on their system, I want to know how
they got it so I can get it too, then I can fix it easier the next
time I see it without trying things and wasting time. I will get a
system infected and see which product fixes it in the least unpleasant
manner.

I don't even try MS products anymore to see if they will protect the
system or are capable of detecting anything after the system has
already been infected.

Th MS products might work or they might not, usually not for things I
see, so I don't even bother anymore since it will likely be a waste of
time. I am tired of saying "Well, MS didn't detect anything, now let
me try this". I don't do that anymore. Sometimes folks have the
opinion that if it comes from MS, it must be good.

MS is probably adequate for some environments, but I need to take the
worst environment possible and find something that will work there.
If it does, then it will usually also simple things that befuddle or
go unnoticed by MS. It is not their specialty. Somebody once said
even a broken clock is right twice a day...

I prefer to go with things that will give me the best chance of
preventing, detecting, resolving the issue with the highest degree of
certainty with the least amount of effort.
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
You are not following the thread. Read PA Bear's message to see the links to
the tests I am talking about.

"Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ef0e613-e5f6-451e-8fdc-81ea05d297f4@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 11, 1:28 pm, "joe" <j...@ebox.com> wrote:
> Well those tests all pass MSE with flying colours. Still waiting to see if
> there are any more comments from the group.
>


Which tests?

I have easily dispensable systems I get infected on purpose to help me
understand how things happen and to learn how fix them. Idon't sit
around and wait for something to happen, I go looking for it.

If somebody has malicious software on their system, I want to know how
they got it so I can get it too, then I can fix it easier the next
time I see it without trying things and wasting time. I will get a
system infected and see which product fixes it in the least unpleasant
manner.

I don't even try MS products anymore to see if they will protect the
system or are capable of detecting anything after the system has
already been infected.

Th MS products might work or they might not, usually not for things I
see, so I don't even bother anymore since it will likely be a waste of
time. I am tired of saying "Well, MS didn't detect anything, now let
me try this". I don't do that anymore. Sometimes folks have the
opinion that if it comes from MS, it must be good.

MS is probably adequate for some environments, but I need to take the
worst environment possible and find something that will work there.
If it does, then it will usually also simple things that befuddle or
go unnoticed by MS. It is not their specialty. Somebody once said
even a broken clock is right twice a day...

I prefer to go with things that will give me the best chance of
preventing, detecting, resolving the issue with the highest degree of
certainty with the least amount of effort.
 
B

bobster

Flightless Bird
Joe,

I'm no expert -- certainly not an MSVP -- but I've been an active PC user
for about 13 years. I've tried many different free and paid AVs,
Spyware/Malware prevent/ removal types, and several different firewalls. I
spend on average, about 5 hours/day on the Internet. No matter what
protection I was using at any given time, I always kept it up-to-date and
active and it always has kept me well protected. My last configuration
prior to going to MSE and the Windows firewall was a ZoneAlarm firewall,
AVAST! free AV, SpywareBlaster, MSVP Hosts file, SpyBot S&D, free
Malwarebytes, and free SUPERAntiSpyware. Kept me clean as a whistle but was
a real pain to keep track of all of it and keep it all updated. Also, some
of it slowed down my computer. Since dumping ZA, AVAST!, SpyBot S&D, Hosts
file and going to MSE/Windows firewall and running free SUPERAntiSpyware and
Malwarebytes weekly, I remain squeaky clean and my XP/SP3/IE8/dual 2.2 Intel
machine is lightning fast.

MSE auto updates daily, has a small footprint, is easy to use and for me,
works flawlessly.

One user's MSE experience. As always, YMMV .

Aside: I was surprised to hear Jose's anti MS/MSE bias as I have always
valued his opinions/advice.

=========================================================
"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:-OfrHzoqkKHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I have winxp pro sp3.

I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.

Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV programs
if I do install?

I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes and
other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?

tia
 
G

George

Flightless Bird
"joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
news:-OfrHzoqkKHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have winxp pro sp3.
>
> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
> programs if I do install?
>
> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate
> any comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for
> Malwarebytes and other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof
> MSE ?
>
> tia
>
>


Joe I have tested this product on a test PC of mine and find it very
very useful. I had it installed for about three months when I decided to
see how well it was working by running MBAM and SUPERAntiSpyware and
neither one of those products found anything at all on my system. That
alone told me that MSE was working very well!

I now have MSE on both my PC's and my test PC. I think if you take the
plunge you will not regret it.

George
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
Thanks for that Bobster. Starting to lean towards MSE. There are obviously
some anti MS people around. The whole idea is to get as many perspectives as
possible.

"bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:uQ4VbWvkKHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Joe,
>
> I'm no expert -- certainly not an MSVP -- but I've been an active PC user
> for about 13 years. I've tried many different free and paid AVs,
> Spyware/Malware prevent/ removal types, and several different firewalls.
> I
> spend on average, about 5 hours/day on the Internet. No matter what
> protection I was using at any given time, I always kept it up-to-date and
> active and it always has kept me well protected. My last configuration
> prior to going to MSE and the Windows firewall was a ZoneAlarm firewall,
> AVAST! free AV, SpywareBlaster, MSVP Hosts file, SpyBot S&D, free
> Malwarebytes, and free SUPERAntiSpyware. Kept me clean as a whistle but
> was
> a real pain to keep track of all of it and keep it all updated. Also,
> some
> of it slowed down my computer. Since dumping ZA, AVAST!, SpyBot S&D,
> Hosts
> file and going to MSE/Windows firewall and running free SUPERAntiSpyware
> and
> Malwarebytes weekly, I remain squeaky clean and my XP/SP3/IE8/dual 2.2
> Intel
> machine is lightning fast.
>
> MSE auto updates daily, has a small footprint, is easy to use and for me,
> works flawlessly.
>
> One user's MSE experience. As always, YMMV .
>
> Aside: I was surprised to hear Jose's anti MS/MSE bias as I have always
> valued his opinions/advice.
>
> =========================================================
> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
> news:-OfrHzoqkKHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I have winxp pro sp3.
>
> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
> programs
> if I do install?
>
> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes
> and
> other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>
> tia
>
>
>
 
J

joe

Flightless Bird
Beginning to think that way George. May still be a few views to appear.

"George" <pop@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "joe" <joe@ebox.com> wrote in message
> news:-OfrHzoqkKHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I have winxp pro sp3.
>>
>> I have downloaded but not yet installed Microsoft Security Essentials.
>>
>> Firstly a question. Do I have to uninstall all other malware and AV
>> programs if I do install?
>>
>> I have read a few rave reviews on the net but would really appreciate any
>> comments from you guys here. I still see recomendations for Malwarebytes
>> and other stuff. So how many people here are in favourof MSE ?
>>
>> tia
>>
>>

>
> Joe I have tested this product on a test PC of mine and find it very very
> useful. I had it installed for about three months when I decided to see
> how well it was working by running MBAM and SUPERAntiSpyware and neither
> one of those products found anything at all on my system. That alone told
> me that MSE was working very well!
>
> I now have MSE on both my PC's and my test PC. I think if you take the
> plunge you will not regret it.
>
> George
>
>
>
 
D

David Webb

Flightless Bird
My comments were based upon multiple installations of MSE and indicate how its
setup routine works.

If you disconnect from the internet, you'll be faced with the issue that I
expressed following the excerpt you quoted, which was:

"Also, you do not want to install MSE offline since during one of the setup
steps
it needs to access the web in order to download the latest virus & spyware
definitions."

There is no "Skip" option in this phase.


"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> David Webb wrote:
>> Some tips:
>>
>> You don't want to uninstall your AV app before starting the MSE installation.

>
> Certainly you can if the machine is disconnected from the internet.
 
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