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Moving old XP app to the Win7 Pro XP mode

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Cameo, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. Cameo

    Cameo Flightless Bird

    I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
    wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
    Windows 7 Pro on another PC. I need something that would also move the
    registry settings, etc. I've heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't
    know anybody who has used it. Is there anything else out there?
     
  2. Chuck

    Chuck Flightless Bird

    On 8/8/2010 8:18 PM, Cameo wrote:
    > I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
    > wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
    > Windows 7 Pro on another PC. I need something that would also move the
    > registry settings, etc. I've heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't
    > know anybody who has used it. Is there anything else out there?


    This can be really problematic.
    Even with a program such as PC Mover, the registry entries may not all
    make it. You may need to do some investigation as to how the program
    install caused the entries to be generated.
    Then, there have been changes in the registry, and you can get into
    situations where a program installed what are now "legacy settings" in
    the registry. Windows can/may then translate them (when things go right)
    and establish new entries. One tactic is to copy the program directory
    tree to a more or less identical location, run the program, and see what
    happens. If it complains, you may be able to do something to resolve the
    problem.
     
  3. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:18:57 -0700, "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    > I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
    > wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
    > Windows 7 Pro on another PC.



    The issue is not the "easiest" way; it's whether you can. The answer
    is no, you can't.
     
  4. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
    news:tqnu56tqk23tj2cdk1mff2d4n7rcf2blhj@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:18:57 -0700, "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
    >> wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
    >> Windows 7 Pro on another PC.

    >
    >
    > The issue is not the "easiest" way; it's whether you can. The answer
    > is no, you can't.
    >
    >


    It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you could
    copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try making a disk
    image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing from that. I think
    that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you will need to obtain
    software to do that - zip software might be the usual because they might
    have that functionality.

    I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not bad at
    running some XP software.
     
  5. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:i3nhgr$op7$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
    > wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
    > Windows 7 Pro on another PC. I need something that would also move the
    > registry settings, etc. I've heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't
    > know anybody who has used it. Is there anything else out there?
    >


    If the original programs were installed with an msi file, a copy
    of the msi installer package may be on the old computer.
    If so, just copy the msi file over and try running that.
     
  6. Cameo

    Cameo Flightless Bird

    "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
    > It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you
    > could copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try
    > making a disk image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing
    > from that. I think that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you
    > will need to obtain software to do that - zip software might be the
    > usual because they might have that functionality.
    >
    > I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not
    > bad at running some XP software.


    My main interest is MS Money Plus that though deprecated by MS, I
    still find it useful as an off-line financial management tool. I
    originally obtained it as a paid download, I don't have the install DVD
    for it. There are some other XP apps I could probably easier be without.
     
  7. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    On 8/9/2010 1:51 PM, Cameo wrote:
    > "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
    >> It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you
    >> could copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try
    >> making a disk image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing
    >> from that. I think that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you
    >> will need to obtain software to do that - zip software might be the
    >> usual because they might have that functionality.
    >>
    >> I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not
    >> bad at running some XP software.

    >
    > My main interest is MS Money Plus that though deprecated by MS, I
    > still find it useful as an off-line financial management tool. I
    > originally obtained it as a paid download, I don't have the install DVD
    > for it. There are some other XP apps I could probably easier be without.


    If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
    download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
    minus the online features. You can get it here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Thunderbird 3.1.2
    Monday, August 09, 2010 4:36:19 PM
     
  8. Cameo

    Cameo Flightless Bird

    "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
    news:tx_7o.418919$pj7.61933@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
    > If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
    > download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
    > minus the online features. You can get it here:
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx


    Thanks a lot! I didn't know about it but I'll try it ASAP.
     
  9. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    On 8/9/2010 4:43 PM, Cameo wrote:
    > "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
    > news:tx_7o.418919$pj7.61933@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
    >> If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
    >> download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
    >> minus the online features. You can get it here:
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx

    >
    > Thanks a lot! I didn't know about it but I'll try it ASAP.


    You're welcome... as a bonus, the sunset version runs just fine in
    Windows 7, no need to use XP Mode unless you want to.


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Thunderbird 3.1.2
    Monday, August 09, 2010 5:08:34 PM
     
  10. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:36:23 -0500, Roy Smith <rasmith1959@live.com>
    wrote:

    > On 8/9/2010 1:51 PM, Cameo wrote:
    > > "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
    > >> It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you
    > >> could copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try
    > >> making a disk image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing
    > >> from that. I think that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you
    > >> will need to obtain software to do that - zip software might be the
    > >> usual because they might have that functionality.
    > >>
    > >> I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not
    > >> bad at running some XP software.

    > >
    > > My main interest is MS Money Plus that though deprecated by MS, I
    > > still find it useful as an off-line financial management tool. I
    > > originally obtained it as a paid download, I don't have the install DVD
    > > for it. There are some other XP apps I could probably easier be without.

    >
    > If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
    > download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
    > minus the online features. You can get it here:
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx




    There is also Quicken. The latest versions run fine under Windows 7.
    It's not free, but it's inexpensive, and personally, I think it's
    better than Money.
     
  11. Cameo

    Cameo Flightless Bird

    "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote:
    > You're welcome... as a bonus, the sunset version runs just fine in
    > Windows 7, no need to use XP Mode unless you want to.


    Yes indeed, it installed in Win7 (64-bit) just fine. However, I have
    no idea how to move all the accounts and their data, including the
    config settings from the old copy to the new one. I tried backup on the
    old and restore that file in the new, but that doesn't seem to do it.
    What am I missing?
     
  12. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    Cameo wrote:
    > "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote:
    > > You're welcome... as a bonus, the sunset version runs just fine in
    >> Windows 7, no need to use XP Mode unless you want to.

    >
    > Yes indeed, it installed in Win7 (64-bit) just fine. However, I have no
    > idea how to move all the accounts and their data, including the config
    > settings from the old copy to the new one. I tried backup on the old and
    > restore that file in the new, but that doesn't seem to do it. What am I
    > missing?


    I'm not sure about how to transfer the settings, but your data is
    simple. Just copy the "My Money.mny" or whatever you named it, from
    your My Documents folder on XP to the Documents folder in Win7. If you
    used a different name than the default, then just use File-Open and
    point to the file you've copied to the Win7 documents folder.


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Postbox 1.1.5
    Monday, August 09, 2010 6:38:00 PM
     
  13. Cameo

    Cameo Flightless Bird

    "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
    news:Cj08o.562086$Up1.398134@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
    > I'm not sure about how to transfer the settings, but your data is
    > simple. Just copy the "My Money.mny" or whatever you named it, from
    > your My Documents folder on XP to the Documents folder in Win7. If
    > you used a different name than the default, then just use File-Open
    > and point to the file you've copied to the Win7 documents folder.


    Never mind. I made a mistake. I didn't notice that on the old XP a
    different drive letter was used for backup location which did not exist
    on the new one. Apparently the backup file restored the wrong drive
    letter on the new setup. Once I fixed that, everything restored
    perfectly. So thanks again for your help with this, Roy.
     
  14. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Flightless Bird

    Cameo

    This move is not feasible. Your problem will be that the Registry entries for these
    programs that you would like to move will not move this way.
    The short answer for what you would like to do is NO you cannot do it

    --
    Peter

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    "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i3nhgr$op7$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I wonder
    >what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of Windows 7 Pro on
    >another PC. I need something that would also move the registry settings, etc. I've
    >heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't know anybody who has used it. Is there
    >anything else out there?
     
  15. Cameo

    Cameo Flightless Bird

    "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > This move is not feasible. Your problem will be that the Registry
    > entries for these programs that you would like to move will not move
    > this way.
    > The short answer for what you would like to do is NO you cannot do it


    Thanks. I wonder what Laplink would say to this.
     

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