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Moving old XP app to the Win7 Pro XP mode

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Cameo

Flightless Bird
I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
Windows 7 Pro on another PC. I need something that would also move the
registry settings, etc. I've heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't
know anybody who has used it. Is there anything else out there?
 
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Chuck

Flightless Bird
On 8/8/2010 8:18 PM, Cameo wrote:
> I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
> wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
> Windows 7 Pro on another PC. I need something that would also move the
> registry settings, etc. I've heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't
> know anybody who has used it. Is there anything else out there?

This can be really problematic.
Even with a program such as PC Mover, the registry entries may not all
make it. You may need to do some investigation as to how the program
install caused the entries to be generated.
Then, there have been changes in the registry, and you can get into
situations where a program installed what are now "legacy settings" in
the registry. Windows can/may then translate them (when things go right)
and establish new entries. One tactic is to copy the program directory
tree to a more or less identical location, run the program, and see what
happens. If it complains, you may be able to do something to resolve the
problem.
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:18:57 -0700, "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

> I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
> wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
> Windows 7 Pro on another PC.


The issue is not the "easiest" way; it's whether you can. The answer
is no, you can't.
 
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johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:tqnu56tqk23tj2cdk1mff2d4n7rcf2blhj@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 17:18:57 -0700, "Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
>> wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
>> Windows 7 Pro on another PC.
>
>
> The issue is not the "easiest" way; it's whether you can. The answer
> is no, you can't.
>
>

It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you could
copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try making a disk
image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing from that. I think
that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you will need to obtain
software to do that - zip software might be the usual because they might
have that functionality.

I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not bad at
running some XP software.
 
D

Dave-UK

Flightless Bird
"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:i3nhgr$op7$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I
> wonder what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of
> Windows 7 Pro on another PC. I need something that would also move the
> registry settings, etc. I've heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't
> know anybody who has used it. Is there anything else out there?
>

If the original programs were installed with an msi file, a copy
of the msi installer package may be on the old computer.
If so, just copy the msi file over and try running that.
 
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Cameo

Flightless Bird
"johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
> It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you
> could copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try
> making a disk image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing
> from that. I think that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you
> will need to obtain software to do that - zip software might be the
> usual because they might have that functionality.
>
> I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not
> bad at running some XP software.

My main interest is MS Money Plus that though deprecated by MS, I
still find it useful as an off-line financial management tool. I
originally obtained it as a paid download, I don't have the install DVD
for it. There are some other XP apps I could probably easier be without.
 
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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 8/9/2010 1:51 PM, Cameo wrote:
> "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
>> It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you
>> could copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try
>> making a disk image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing
>> from that. I think that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you
>> will need to obtain software to do that - zip software might be the
>> usual because they might have that functionality.
>>
>> I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not
>> bad at running some XP software.
>
> My main interest is MS Money Plus that though deprecated by MS, I
> still find it useful as an off-line financial management tool. I
> originally obtained it as a paid download, I don't have the install DVD
> for it. There are some other XP apps I could probably easier be without.

If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
minus the online features. You can get it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Monday, August 09, 2010 4:36:19 PM
 
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Cameo

Flightless Bird
"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
news:tx_7o.418919$pj7.61933@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
> If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
> download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
> minus the online features. You can get it here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx

Thanks a lot! I didn't know about it but I'll try it ASAP.
 
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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 8/9/2010 4:43 PM, Cameo wrote:
> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
> news:tx_7o.418919$pj7.61933@en-nntp-15.dc1.easynews.com...
>> If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
>> download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
>> minus the online features. You can get it here:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx
>
> Thanks a lot! I didn't know about it but I'll try it ASAP.

You're welcome... as a bonus, the sunset version runs just fine in
Windows 7, no need to use XP Mode unless you want to.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.2
Monday, August 09, 2010 5:08:34 PM
 
K

Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:36:23 -0500, Roy Smith <rasmith1959@live.com>
wrote:

> On 8/9/2010 1:51 PM, Cameo wrote:
> > "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
> >> It occurs to me that there are a couple of ways worth trying: you
> >> could copy the files and then run the setup. Also you could try
> >> making a disk image (a file with extension .iso) and try installing
> >> from that. I think that Win7 won't make a disk image from files, you
> >> will need to obtain software to do that - zip software might be the
> >> usual because they might have that functionality.
> >>
> >> I am not quite sure why you should want to use XP mode: Win 7 is not
> >> bad at running some XP software.
> >
> > My main interest is MS Money Plus that though deprecated by MS, I
> > still find it useful as an off-line financial management tool. I
> > originally obtained it as a paid download, I don't have the install DVD
> > for it. There are some other XP apps I could probably easier be without.
>
> If that is one of the programs you'd like to keep, there is a free
> download available from Microsoft that is the latest version of Money
> minus the online features. You can get it here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/money/sunset.mspx



There is also Quicken. The latest versions run fine under Windows 7.
It's not free, but it's inexpensive, and personally, I think it's
better than Money.
 
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Cameo

Flightless Bird
"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote:
> You're welcome... as a bonus, the sunset version runs just fine in
> Windows 7, no need to use XP Mode unless you want to.

Yes indeed, it installed in Win7 (64-bit) just fine. However, I have
no idea how to move all the accounts and their data, including the
config settings from the old copy to the new one. I tried backup on the
old and restore that file in the new, but that doesn't seem to do it.
What am I missing?
 
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Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
Cameo wrote:
> "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote:
> > You're welcome... as a bonus, the sunset version runs just fine in
>> Windows 7, no need to use XP Mode unless you want to.
>
> Yes indeed, it installed in Win7 (64-bit) just fine. However, I have no
> idea how to move all the accounts and their data, including the config
> settings from the old copy to the new one. I tried backup on the old and
> restore that file in the new, but that doesn't seem to do it. What am I
> missing?

I'm not sure about how to transfer the settings, but your data is
simple. Just copy the "My Money.mny" or whatever you named it, from
your My Documents folder on XP to the Documents folder in Win7. If you
used a different name than the default, then just use File-Open and
point to the file you've copied to the Win7 documents folder.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Postbox 1.1.5
Monday, August 09, 2010 6:38:00 PM
 
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Cameo

Flightless Bird
"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959@live.com> wrote in message
news:Cj08o.562086$Up1.398134@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
> I'm not sure about how to transfer the settings, but your data is
> simple. Just copy the "My Money.mny" or whatever you named it, from
> your My Documents folder on XP to the Documents folder in Win7. If
> you used a different name than the default, then just use File-Open
> and point to the file you've copied to the Win7 documents folder.

Never mind. I made a mistake. I didn't notice that on the old XP a
different drive letter was used for backup location which did not exist
on the new one. Apparently the backup file restored the wrong drive
letter on the new setup. Once I fixed that, everything restored
perfectly. So thanks again for your help with this, Roy.
 
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Peter Foldes

Flightless Bird
Cameo

This move is not feasible. Your problem will be that the Registry entries for these
programs that you would like to move will not move this way.
The short answer for what you would like to do is NO you cannot do it

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Peter

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"Cameo" <cameo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:i3nhgr$op7$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>I have a couple XP apps on my old PC without original install DVDs, so I wonder
>what would be the easiest way to move them to the XP mode of Windows 7 Pro on
>another PC. I need something that would also move the registry settings, etc. I've
>heard about Laplink's PC Mover but I don't know anybody who has used it. Is there
>anything else out there?
 
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Cameo

Flightless Bird
"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This move is not feasible. Your problem will be that the Registry
> entries for these programs that you would like to move will not move
> this way.
> The short answer for what you would like to do is NO you cannot do it

Thanks. I wonder what Laplink would say to this.
 
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