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Machine shuts down, can't find boot device

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GreyCloud

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>
>>> it's so sad
>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the Geek
>>> Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>

>>
>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name but
>> their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>

> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity buttons"
> don't they!
> Oops!...LOL!


Ever pay for their online support services? Their services aren't all
that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared to
other companies doing the same thing.
 
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GreyCloud

Flightless Bird
Allen wrote:
> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>> "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message
>> news:2_adnZtzSp-WadHWnZ2dnUVZ_qhi4p2d@bresnan.com...
>>> Allen wrote:
>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> There is a slim possibility that your BIOS rom died. It happens
>>>>> once in a rare while. But I don't know if the battery has anything
>>>>> to do with it. Usually the battery is for the system clock. Had
>>>>> this problem a long time ago with an ACER model, in that on bad
>>>>> setting in the rom caused it to not respond anymore to any access
>>>>> to resetting it.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the worst could be a hard drive interface failure, where any HD
>>>>> requests won't make it.
>>>> Greycloud, I suspect you are right; I've had a suspicion all along,
>>>> but didn't want to accept it. I suppose that means a new MB, and my
>>>> 80-year-old fingers aren't up to doing a replacement. Thanks very much.
>>> Well, there is a good possibility to save some money, rather than
>>> going out and buying a new PC... go to a mom and pop PC shop and have
>>> them fix it.

>>
>> Heh...living in one of, if not the most, wired city in the U.S. (soon
>> to be the home of the Blues Waters petascale supercomputer), we have
>> many to choose from. I often have to tell people where to go
>> (heh)...it's so sad that so many people don't know they have an
>> alternative to the Geek Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>

> I would rather go to a blacksmith with my problem than the Geek Squad
> and its clones, based on what I've heard. Incidentally, I live in
> Austin, which is also one of the most wired/wireless in the US. My first
> experience in computers was with an analog fire control machine 56 years
> ago, and have been almost continuously dealing with them ever
> since--mainframe, minis, micros, you name it. This is the first time
> I've ever felt the need to take a PC to an outsider for repair.
> Allen


Ah, same here. I used to work on the old MK113 FCS and the MK114 FCS.
Then there was the older MK101 FCS. That one was almost all gears.
Too bad they didn't keep that paradigm, as for navy ships on an analog
computer you always have a running solution present, unlike a digital
computer solution.
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
GreyCloud wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>
>>>> it's so sad
>>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the Geek
>>>> Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name but
>>> their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>>

>> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
>> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity buttons"
>> don't they!
>> Oops!...LOL!

>
> Ever pay for their online support services?


When I had my business and a VL with MS we had a great rep who took
excellent care of us.
He even came to our yearly company parties!

Their services aren't all
> that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared to
> other companies doing the same thing.


Sorry, but that was not my experience.
 
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GreyCloud

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> it's so sad
>>>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the Geek
>>>>> Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name but
>>>> their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>>>
>>> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
>>> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity buttons"
>>> don't they!
>>> Oops!...LOL!

>>
>> Ever pay for their online support services?

>
> When I had my business and a VL with MS we had a great rep who took
> excellent care of us.
> He even came to our yearly company parties!


I think those are a bit different than a one time call in with your
credit card in hand, in which I meant to refer to.
I've had excellent service with DEC in the past in the manner which you
are referring to.

>
> Their services aren't all
>> that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared to
>> other companies doing the same thing.

>
> Sorry, but that was not my experience.


It is if you call in with your credit card in hand. You just get a
telephone flunky that really doesn't know much, and worse may be one of
those offshore tele-support centers. Much the same as with HP.

But if you pay for a contract, then you should get pretty decent
service. I presume that you had a contract number handy when you did
call them.
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
GreyCloud wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's so sad
>>>>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the
>>>>>> Geek Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name but
>>>>> their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>>>>
>>>> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
>>>> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity buttons"
>>>> don't they!
>>>> Oops!...LOL!
>>>
>>> Ever pay for their online support services?

>>
>> When I had my business and a VL with MS we had a great rep who took
>> excellent care of us.
>> He even came to our yearly company parties!

>
> I think those are a bit different than a one time call in with your
> credit card in hand, in which I meant to refer to.
> I've had excellent service with DEC in the past in the manner which you
> are referring to.
>
>>
>> Their services aren't all
>>> that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared
>>> to other companies doing the same thing.

>>
>> Sorry, but that was not my experience.

>
> It is if you call in with your credit card in hand.


I never, ever did anything like that!

You just get a
> telephone flunky that really doesn't know much, and worse may be one of
> those offshore tele-support centers. Much the same as with HP.


Oh I've called HP about warranty issues on my laptop and you're
right...its like calling morons-are-us!
>
> But if you pay for a contract, then you should get pretty decent
> service. I presume that you had a contract number handy when you did
> call them.


Actually I had/have my reps cell phone number! :)
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's so sad
>>>>>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the
>>>>>>> Geek Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name
>>>>>> but their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
>>>>> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity buttons"
>>>>> don't they!
>>>>> Oops!...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Ever pay for their online support services?
>>>
>>> When I had my business and a VL with MS we had a great rep who took
>>> excellent care of us.
>>> He even came to our yearly company parties!

>>
>> I think those are a bit different than a one time call in with your
>> credit card in hand, in which I meant to refer to.
>> I've had excellent service with DEC in the past in the manner which
>> you are referring to.
>>
>>>
>>> Their services aren't all
>>>> that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared
>>>> to other companies doing the same thing.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but that was not my experience.

>>
>> It is if you call in with your credit card in hand.

>
> I never, ever did anything like that!
>
> You just get a
>> telephone flunky that really doesn't know much, and worse may be one
>> of those offshore tele-support centers. Much the same as with HP.

>
> Oh I've called HP about warranty issues on my laptop and you're
> right...its like calling morons-are-us!
>>
>> But if you pay for a contract, then you should get pretty decent
>> service. I presume that you had a contract number handy when you did
>> call them.

>
> Actually I had/have my reps cell phone number! :)
>


Needed help that much, eh?

--
Alias
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's so sad
>>>>>>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the
>>>>>>>> Geek Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name
>>>>>>> but their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
>>>>>> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity
>>>>>> buttons" don't they!
>>>>>> Oops!...LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever pay for their online support services?
>>>>
>>>> When I had my business and a VL with MS we had a great rep who took
>>>> excellent care of us.
>>>> He even came to our yearly company parties!
>>>
>>> I think those are a bit different than a one time call in with your
>>> credit card in hand, in which I meant to refer to.
>>> I've had excellent service with DEC in the past in the manner which
>>> you are referring to.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Their services aren't all
>>>>> that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared
>>>>> to other companies doing the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but that was not my experience.
>>>
>>> It is if you call in with your credit card in hand.

>>
>> I never, ever did anything like that!
>>
>> You just get a
>>> telephone flunky that really doesn't know much, and worse may be one
>>> of those offshore tele-support centers. Much the same as with HP.

>>
>> Oh I've called HP about warranty issues on my laptop and you're
>> right...its like calling morons-are-us!
>>>
>>> But if you pay for a contract, then you should get pretty decent
>>> service. I presume that you had a contract number handy when you did
>>> call them.

>>
>> Actually I had/have my reps cell phone number! :)
>>

>
> Needed help that much, eh?
>


Are you jealous cody?
Figures!
Oops!...LOL!
 
E

Enkidu

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:

> He even came to our yearly company parties!


You mean he showed up for free food an beer? Damn, you're easy to
impress.

Ooops! (See how stupid that looks?)
--
Enkidu
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
Enkidu wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> He even came to our yearly company parties!

>
> You mean he showed up for free food an beer?


He did a lot favors for us! And a good, solid, direct, knowledgeable
contact with a large company you deal with is extremely valuable.
Plus he knew a lot about the type of business I was in and he knew all
of our competition.
I'm no fool, so cultivating a personal relationship with him and his,
including inviting him and his wife, to our yearly Company parties was
smart thinking on our part.
If you think otherwise I couldn't possibly care less.
I was very, very successful in my business!

Damn, you're easy to
> impress.
>

Damn you're stupid!

> Ooops! (See how stupid that looks?)


Yeah...you're looking dumber by the minute.
 
G

GreyCloud

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Lord Vetinari wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's so sad
>>>>>>> that so many people don't know they have an alternative to the
>>>>>>> Geek Squad's overpriced, and underpowered service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminds me of another company. I'm not going to post their name
>>>>>> but their initials are Microsoft Corporation.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Got that MS hatred cranked up again huh cody?
>>>>> hehehe...they sure know how to push all of your "stupidity buttons"
>>>>> don't they!
>>>>> Oops!...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Ever pay for their online support services?
>>>
>>> When I had my business and a VL with MS we had a great rep who took
>>> excellent care of us.
>>> He even came to our yearly company parties!

>>
>> I think those are a bit different than a one time call in with your
>> credit card in hand, in which I meant to refer to.
>> I've had excellent service with DEC in the past in the manner which
>> you are referring to.
>>
>>>
>>> Their services aren't all
>>>> that good if nothing more than take your money and run, as compared
>>>> to other companies doing the same thing.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but that was not my experience.

>>
>> It is if you call in with your credit card in hand.

>
> I never, ever did anything like that!


My brother did that only once. All they told him was to reinstall XP
after they took his money.

It's pretty much the same thing with Apple, and I did that only once
under their warranty terms which didn't cost me anything. A strange
problem: Opened MS Media Player for Mac and it starts and then shut
down. Their solution was to drag that applications cache file to the
trash can and let the app rebuild it. It worked.

>
> You just get a
>> telephone flunky that really doesn't know much, and worse may be one
>> of those offshore tele-support centers. Much the same as with HP.

>
> Oh I've called HP about warranty issues on my laptop and you're
> right...its like calling morons-are-us!
>>
>> But if you pay for a contract, then you should get pretty decent
>> service. I presume that you had a contract number handy when you did
>> call them.

>
> Actually I had/have my reps cell phone number! :)
>


It sure helps. Of course back in the 80s the DEC yearly software
support contract cost us around $4000/year. Any question I have ever
asked them I always got a solution from them.
 
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