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Looking for a TweakUI-like util for Windows 7

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XS11E

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:W2Yin.58738$G_2.44591@newsfe15.iad...
>
>> Exactly. Since I live alone and am the only user, I don't want to
>> mess with logons and passwords.
>>
>
> Thank you. That's why *I* have to bother with AV and antimalware
> applications.
>
> Learn something about Computer SECURITY.

I would suspect "Crash" knows as much or more about security as anyone
here. Check GRC forums for more info.
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Trev wrote:
>
> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b8b673e$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>> I'm looking for something equivalent to the TweakUI util that was
>> available at least up until Windows XP.
>>
>> Actually, the main functionality that I'm looking for is the ability
>> to auto-logon a specific user account at boot time, in a multi-user
>> machine. Is this feature available elsewhere in Windows 7 now?
>>
>> Another TweakUI feature I'm looking for is the ability to shrink the
>> "arrows" on a file shortcut.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
> http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/auto-logon-windows-7.htm

Uh, okay, I reviewed these suggestions, and it's not what I'm looking
for. I don't want passwords to become disabled in general for the
system. I want it to still ask for passwords, I just want it to
automatically login to one particular account at startup and run a bunch
of programs in there that will remain in the background. With the old
Windows XP TweakUI, I could setup an auto-logon for one particular
account, which when you switch out of it, you still needed to enter a
password to get into it again. You also needed a password to get into
any of the other accounts.

Yousuf Khan
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:
> But WHY would anyone use auto-logon?

I see what the confusion is here. I don't want to disable password
logins completely on this system, I still want them. I just want to
auto-login to an account at Windows startup, and I always want that
account to be the first account to run on the system after startup. But
when you exit or switch out of that account, you will still be asked for
a password to get back into it. Same goes for all of the other user
accounts.

The suggestions I've been given so far, completely disable passwords
throughout the system, which is what I don't want! I agree, disabling
passwords is a _bad_ thing. The old Windows XP TweakUI allowed you to
auto-login to a fully password-protected user account at startup,
without disabling the passwords whatsoever.

Yousuf Khan
 
L

LouB

Flightless Bird
Yousuf Khan wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>> But WHY would anyone use auto-logon?
>
> I see what the confusion is here. I don't want to disable password
> logins completely on this system, I still want them. I just want to
> auto-login to an account at Windows startup, and I always want that
> account to be the first account to run on the system after startup. But
> when you exit or switch out of that account, you will still be asked for
> a password to get back into it. Same goes for all of the other user
> accounts.
>
> The suggestions I've been given so far, completely disable passwords
> throughout the system, which is what I don't want! I agree, disabling
> passwords is a _bad_ thing. The old Windows XP TweakUI allowed you to
> auto-login to a fully password-protected user account at startup,
> without disabling the passwords whatsoever.
>
> Yousuf Khan

Try asking at the Win7 forums.
http://www.w7forums.com/
or
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/2/2010 7:58 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>> But WHY would anyone use auto-logon?
>
> I see what the confusion is here. I don't want to disable password
> logins completely on this system, I still want them. I just want to
> auto-login to an account at Windows startup, and I always want that
> account to be the first account to run on the system after startup. But
> when you exit or switch out of that account, you will still be asked for
> a password to get back into it. Same goes for all of the other user
> accounts.
>
> The suggestions I've been given so far, completely disable passwords
> throughout the system, which is what I don't want! I agree, disabling
> passwords is a _bad_ thing. The old Windows XP TweakUI allowed you to
> auto-login to a fully password-protected user account at startup,
> without disabling the passwords whatsoever.
>
> Yousuf Khan

Start/run/control userpasswords2...then select the account that is
password protected and change it to auto logon...exactly like in XP
using TweakUI.
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4b8b673e$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
> I'm looking for something equivalent to the TweakUI util that was
> available at least up until Windows XP.
>
> Actually, the main functionality that I'm looking for is the ability
> to auto-logon a specific user account at boot time, in a multi-user
> machine. Is this feature available elsewhere in Windows 7 now?
>
> Another TweakUI feature I'm looking for is the ability to shrink the
> "arrows" on a file shortcut.
>

I don't know about the shortcut icon arrow, but setting the autologin
in Windows 7 is easy - click the Start orb, type NETPLWIZ and press
enter, click on the user account you want to auto login, clear the
checkbox for "Users must specify a username and password to use this
computer" (or whatever the option is called exactly) and click OK. It
will then ask for the password for the account, and you are done.

--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
rak wrote:
> This link is for vista, but I think it will work on 7.
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66966-logon-automatically.html

So if one account has no password in the system among other accounts
that all have passwords, then the one without passwords will get
auto-logged on? That sounds interesting, except I can see people using
the computer will get lazy and just default to using that account
instead of their own.

Yousuf Khan
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> Start/run/control userpasswords2...then select the account that is
> password protected and change it to auto logon...exactly like in XP
> using TweakUI.

Is that how XP's TweakUI used to do it? I didn't know that.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/3/2010 6:35 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Start/run/control userpasswords2...then select the account that is
>> password protected and change it to auto logon...exactly like in XP
>> using TweakUI.
>
> Is that how XP's TweakUI used to do it? I didn't know that.
>
> Yousuf Khan

Yep! Sure/was is.
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Frank wrote:
> On 3/3/2010 6:35 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Start/run/control userpasswords2...then select the account that is
>>> password protected and change it to auto logon...exactly like in XP
>>> using TweakUI.
>>
>> Is that how XP's TweakUI used to do it? I didn't know that.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
> Yep! Sure/was is.

Okay, I just tried this under both XP & Seven, and there is nothing to
change it to "auto-logon" in either case.

Yousuf Khan
 
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rak

Flightless Bird
I haven't tried this with a pc that has an account with no password. So I
can't confirm the statement on way or the other. I would suggest that all
of your accounts have some password on them, even if very simple. Then
there should be no issue.

"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4b8f1a93$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
> rak wrote:
>> This link is for vista, but I think it will work on 7.
>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66966-logon-automatically.html
>
> So if one account has no password in the system among other accounts that
> all have passwords, then the one without passwords will get auto-logged
> on? That sounds interesting, except I can see people using the computer
> will get lazy and just default to using that account instead of their own.
>
> Yousuf Khan
 
R

relic

Flightless Bird
"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4b8f1a93$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
> rak wrote:
>> This link is for vista, but I think it will work on 7.
>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66966-logon-automatically.html
>
> So if one account has no password in the system among other accounts that
> all have passwords, then the one without passwords will get auto-logged
> on? That sounds interesting, except I can see people using the computer
> will get lazy and just default to using that account instead of their own.
>

XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted; Password
protected or not.
 
J

Jeff Layman

Flightless Bird
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D2FC89D019E6xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:W2Yin.58738$G_2.44591@newsfe15.iad...
>>
>>> Exactly. Since I live alone and am the only user, I don't want to
>>> mess with logons and passwords.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you. That's why *I* have to bother with AV and antimalware
>> applications.
>>
>> Learn something about Computer SECURITY.
>
> I would suspect "Crash" knows as much or more about security as anyone
> here. Check GRC forums for more info.
>

I'll second that!

--

Jeff
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:52:42 -0800, relic wrote:

> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b8f1a93$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>> rak wrote:
>>> This link is for vista, but I think it will work on 7.
>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66966-logon-automatically.html
>>
>> So if one account has no password in the system among other accounts that
>> all have passwords, then the one without passwords will get auto-logged
>> on? That sounds interesting, except I can see people using the computer
>> will get lazy and just default to using that account instead of their own.
>>
>
> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted; Password
> protected or not.

As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for Windows 7
(also works in Vista).

See Message-ID: <hmmjkk$et3$1@news.eternal-september.org>

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
rak wrote:
> I haven't tried this with a pc that has an account with no password. So
> I can't confirm the statement on way or the other. I would suggest that
> all of your accounts have some password on them, even if very simple.
> Then there should be no issue.


Well, that's the way it is now. But this particular issue (need a
specific account auto-logged on at startup), has me wondering if I'm
being too pedantic about security. However, the old XP TweakUI had the
ability to auto-logon a account without compromising its security. Wish
there was something equivalent for Seven.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
relic wrote:
>
> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b8f1a93$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>> rak wrote:
>>> This link is for vista, but I think it will work on 7.
>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66966-logon-automatically.html
>>
>> So if one account has no password in the system among other accounts
>> that all have passwords, then the one without passwords will get
>> auto-logged on? That sounds interesting, except I can see people using
>> the computer will get lazy and just default to using that account
>> instead of their own.
>>
>
> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted; Password
> protected or not.

Exactly, and that's what I want now for Seven as well.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted; Password
>> protected or not.
>
> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for Windows 7
> (also works in Vista).


Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he posted
using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being disabled on a
system. I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4b95f8cb$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted;
>>> Password protected or not.
>>
>> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for
>> Windows 7
>> (also works in Vista).
>
>
> Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he
> posted using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being disabled
> on a system.

That's simply not the case. You should actually try it rather than
assuming you know what it does.

> I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.
>

All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are still
active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only time a
password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using the
password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other than the
initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
entered for an account.

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
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Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/8/2010 11:24 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> relic wrote:
>>
>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b8f1a93$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>> rak wrote:
>>>> This link is for vista, but I think it will work on 7.
>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66966-logon-automatically.html
>>>
>>> So if one account has no password in the system among other accounts
>>> that all have passwords, then the one without passwords will get
>>> auto-logged on? That sounds interesting, except I can see people
>>> using the computer will get lazy and just default to using that
>>> account instead of their own.
>>>
>>
>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted; Password
>> protected or not.
>
> Exactly, and that's what I want now for Seven as well.
>
> Yousuf Khan

You've already been told:

Start/run/control userpasswords2...then select the account that is
password protected and change it to auto logon...exactly like in XP
using TweakUI.
 
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