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Looking for a TweakUI-like util for Windows 7

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Noone

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:23:48 -0500, Yousuf Khan
<bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:

>rak wrote:
>> I haven't tried this with a pc that has an account with no password. So
>> I can't confirm the statement on way or the other. I would suggest that
>> all of your accounts have some password on them, even if very simple.
>> Then there should be no issue.
>
>
>Well, that's the way it is now. But this particular issue (need a
>specific account auto-logged on at startup), has me wondering if I'm
>being too pedantic about security. However, the old XP TweakUI had the
>ability to auto-logon a account without compromising its security. Wish
>there was something equivalent for Seven.
>
> Yousuf Khan

Run this.

c:/windows\system32\control userpasswords2

You can then uncheck the item.

There are a number of very useful utilities for Win7 (32 and 64 bit_)
on the net. But none that of know of will enable boot without
entering the password.
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Noone" <Noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:s3sdp5lu78hu1mq69ttrr8rsvbrh84jvub@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:23:48 -0500, Yousuf Khan
> <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>rak wrote:
>>> I haven't tried this with a pc that has an account with no
>>> password. So
>>> I can't confirm the statement on way or the other. I would
>>> suggest that
>>> all of your accounts have some password on them, even if very
>>> simple.
>>> Then there should be no issue.
>>
>>
>>Well, that's the way it is now. But this particular issue (need a
>>specific account auto-logged on at startup), has me wondering if I'm
>>being too pedantic about security. However, the old XP TweakUI had
>>the
>>ability to auto-logon a account without compromising its security.
>>Wish
>>there was something equivalent for Seven.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
> Run this.
>
> c:/windows\system32\control userpasswords2
>
> You can then uncheck the item.
>
> There are a number of very useful utilities for Win7 (32 and 64
> bit_)
> on the net. But none that of know of will enable boot without
> entering the password.
>
>
This is a different way of getting to the same dialog as NETPLWIZ,
that I told the OP about a week ago. The OP seems to be under the
misconception that this does something different than what the old XP
TweakUI did. Perhaps this will help to correct that misconception.

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:50:48 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b95f8cb$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted;
>>>> Password protected or not.
>>>
>>> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for
>>> Windows 7
>>> (also works in Vista).
>>
>>
>> Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he
>> posted using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being disabled
>> on a system.
>
> That's simply not the case. You should actually try it rather than
> assuming you know what it does.
>
>> I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.
>>
>
> All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are still
> active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only time a
> password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
> automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using the
> password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other than the
> initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
> entered for an account.

Remember from My Fair Lady "I think she's got it - by George, she's got it"
(approximately)?

Looks like it doesn't apply here :)

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:ere8w5cqsdir$.l3ov7t86zdy1.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:50:48 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b95f8cb$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted;
>>>>> Password protected or not.
>>>>
>>>> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for
>>>> Windows 7
>>>> (also works in Vista).
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he
>>> posted using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being
>>> disabled
>>> on a system.
>>
>> That's simply not the case. You should actually try it rather than
>> assuming you know what it does.
>>
>>> I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.
>>>
>>
>> All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are
>> still
>> active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only
>> time a
>> password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
>> automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using the
>> password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other than
>> the
>> initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
>> entered for an account.
>
> Remember from My Fair Lady "I think she's got it - by George, she's
> got it"
> (approximately)?
>
> Looks like it doesn't apply here :)
>

Indeed. :/

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.
 
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Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> This is a different way of getting to the same dialog as NETPLWIZ,
> that I told the OP about a week ago. The OP seems to be under the
> misconception that this does something different than what the old XP
> TweakUI did. Perhaps this will help to correct that misconception.


You see the old XP TweakUI auto-logon would actually ask for the account
password that you want to auto-logon to the first time, and then it
would store it privately there-after. That's how it used to auto-logon.
It didn't turn off security for all accounts by default.

Yousuf Khan
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Flightless Bird
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are still
> active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only time a
> password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
> automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using the
> password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other than the
> initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
> entered for an account.

Oh, okay, the description in the wizard itself made it sound like it was
disabling the passwords completely. Very ambiguous wording.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4b9a0444@news.bnb-lp.com...
> Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>> This is a different way of getting to the same dialog as NETPLWIZ,
>> that I told the OP about a week ago. The OP seems to be under the
>> misconception that this does something different than what the old
>> XP TweakUI did. Perhaps this will help to correct that
>> misconception.
>
>
> You see the old XP TweakUI auto-logon would actually ask for the
> account password that you want to auto-logon to the first time, and
> then it would store it privately there-after. That's how it used to
> auto-logon. It didn't turn off security for all accounts by default.
>

NETPLWIZ does exactly the same thing as XP TweakUI. It asks for the
password for the account you want to auto log on and stores it
privately. It does not turn off security for all accounts. Try it
and see.

--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:ere8w5cqsdir$.l3ov7t86zdy1.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:50:48 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b95f8cb$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted;
>>>>> Password protected or not.
>>>>
>>>> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for
>>>> Windows 7
>>>> (also works in Vista).
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he
>>> posted using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being
>>> disabled
>>> on a system.
>>
>> That's simply not the case. You should actually try it rather than
>> assuming you know what it does.
>>
>>> I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.
>>>
>>
>> All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are
>> still
>> active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only
>> time a
>> password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
>> automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using the
>> password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other than
>> the
>> initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
>> entered for an account.
>
> Remember from My Fair Lady "I think she's got it - by George, she's
> got it"
> (approximately)?
>
> Looks like it doesn't apply here :)
>

Sometimes, I wonder why I don't just give up and leave them to their
misconceptions, but I can't help myself...

--
Zaphod

Arthur Dent, speaking to Trillian about Zaphod:
"So, two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else he's got two of?"
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:26:29 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ere8w5cqsdir$.l3ov7t86zdy1.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:50:48 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b95f8cb$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>>>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted;
>>>>>> Password protected or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox for
>>>>> Windows 7
>>>>> (also works in Vista).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he
>>>> posted using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being
>>>> disabled
>>>> on a system.
>>>
>>> That's simply not the case. You should actually try it rather than
>>> assuming you know what it does.
>>>
>>>> I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are
>>> still
>>> active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only
>>> time a
>>> password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
>>> automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using the
>>> password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other than
>>> the
>>> initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
>>> entered for an account.
>>
>> Remember from My Fair Lady "I think she's got it - by George, she's
>> got it"
>> (approximately)?
>>
>> Looks like it doesn't apply here :)
>>
>
> Sometimes, I wonder why I don't just give up and leave them to their
> misconceptions, but I can't help myself...

Self discipline, that's what you need. Or Xanax (tm) :)

Me too.

I just looked at the molecular diagram on Answers.com. It looks like a
possible precursor to methyl ethyl chickenwire.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:1szuu8sc978o9.1eb81zep88zcp$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:26:29 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ere8w5cqsdir$.l3ov7t86zdy1.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:50:48 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b95f8cb$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>>>>> XP's TweakUI allowed Autologon for _any_ account you wanted;
>>>>>>> Password protected or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As does the method posted in this thread by Zaphod Beeblebrox
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Windows 7
>>>>>> (also works in Vista).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless ZB provided another method later, the one I see that he
>>>>> posted using NETPLWIZ, will result in *all* passwords being
>>>>> disabled
>>>>> on a system.
>>>>
>>>> That's simply not the case. You should actually try it rather
>>>> than
>>>> assuming you know what it does.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't want any passwords disabled just for auto-logon.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the method I posted achieves is auto-login. Passwords are
>>>> still
>>>> active for all accounts, even the auto-login account - the only
>>>> time a
>>>> password is not required is when the system initially boots, it
>>>> automatically logs into the account specified in NETPLWIZ using
>>>> the
>>>> password specified in NETPLWIZ. Network access, logins other
>>>> than
>>>> the
>>>> initial boot login, switch user, etc, all require passwords to be
>>>> entered for an account.
>>>
>>> Remember from My Fair Lady "I think she's got it - by George,
>>> she's
>>> got it"
>>> (approximately)?
>>>
>>> Looks like it doesn't apply here :)
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes, I wonder why I don't just give up and leave them to
>> their
>> misconceptions, but I can't help myself...
>
> Self discipline, that's what you need. Or Xanax (tm) :)
>
> Me too.
>
> I just looked at the molecular diagram on Answers.com. It looks like
> a
> possible precursor to methyl ethyl chickenwire.
>

Better living through chemistry... sounds like a plan.

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
 
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