Location of existing icons for internet desktop shortcuts

[Jeff Strickland]

Aren't icons a function of the application they are related to? If so, then
they are by definition located all over the place. And, since you are
creating an IE shortcut (which I'm having trouble wrapping my head around in
the first place) then the icon library that you get from the Change Icon
function will be limited to the IE icons unless you figure out where to
browse to a different location. I think your complaint is that earlier
versions of either IE or Windows itself had larger icon libraries.

If you create your own icon, then you can store it (them) anywhere you want.
Make a folder and call it MyIcons, then drop the icons in it, and then use
the Change Icon function of the Properties tab and browse to MyIcon to pick
it up.

My idea is that you open two instances of Windows Explorer in Normal mode,
adjust them so they are open either side by side or above and below (your
option), and then set one to your MyIcons folder, then browse your machine
in the other, and drag (CTRL+Drag to make a copy) the icons you like to the
MyIcons side of the screen. Basically, set a Source instance of Windfows
Explorer and a Desitination instance. Drag (copy) the source icons to the
destination folder, then you can use the Change Icon feature of the
Properties tab to more easily find the icons again.





"Bobbi" <bobbi@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:uv1qWQTALHA.5536@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi, PA Bear-
>
> That information below is useful for me in another context. For the matter
> at hand, I'm not using any favicons, just icons I've either created myself
> or selected from an existing dll or other icon library. All I want to know
> is the name and location of the existing icon, not how to change it.
> However, it appears that IE7 is simply not going to give me that info
> (unlike IE6). Instead, it suggests another icon in some other location. It
> makes no sense to me.
>
> Bobbi
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news9%23AO8QALHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Why doesn't the favicon for my site appear in IE7 [or IE8]?
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/jeffdav/archi...-t-the-favicon-for-my-site-appear-in-ie7.aspx
>>
>> Bobbi wrote:
>>> Hi, KCB-
>>> "KCB" <bcgc_qc@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eQERPJNALHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> All it is, is an internet shortcut, with the fav.ico for the site as
>>>> the
>>>> shortcut icon. Right click on a blank part of a web page, then select
>>>> Create Shortcut. It will put the shortcut on your desktop, with
>>>> whatever
>>>> icon the website uses as it's favorite icon. Some sites do not have
>>>> one,
>>>> then they will just show the IE logo. These icons can get deleted with
>>>> temporary internet files, so then the web page would have to be loaded
>>>> again to get it back. If the file is saved and stored somewhere else
>>>> (what the OP is referring to), then they don't get deleted.
>>>
>>> No, I'm NOT using a favicon. I'm using an icon I either created myself
>>> or
>>> pulled from one of the various icon libraries on my computer. I know how
>>> to
>>> create shortcuts. My problem is: I'd like the Change Icon... dialog box
>>> to
>>> show where the existing icon is located. No one seems to understand
>>> that.
>>> It's NOT a favicon. But I'm getting the feeling that IE7 is just
>>> different
>>> from IE6 in that respect and won't do it any more.
>>>
>>> Bobbi
>>
>
>

 

[Bobbi]

Jeff, you're not listening. I do appreciate your trying to help, but you're
just wrong about the selection of icons being limited. Applications usually
supply icons, but anyone can create icon from an image he likes and use that
icon instead. You're telling me how to use icons from existing libraries.
But it doesn't matter whether I create my own or use an existing one.

My point is that IE6 would let you see what the existing icon is and where
it's located, whereas IE7 (for web shortcuts) doesn't do that; instead it
suggests a new icon from a library it likes. I'm trying to find out whether
I can restore IE6 behaviour in IE7.

Bobbi



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hu3af3$9sp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Aren't icons a function of the application they are related to? If so,
> then they are by definition located all over the place. And, since you are
> creating an IE shortcut (which I'm having trouble wrapping my head around
> in the first place) then the icon library that you get from the Change
> Icon function will be limited to the IE icons unless you figure out where
> to browse to a different location. I think your complaint is that earlier
> versions of either IE or Windows itself had larger icon libraries.

 

[Bobbi]

Well, IE6 used to do that. Why can't IE7? It's not Windows, it IE6 vs IE7.
-Bobbi

"ju.c" <bibidybubidyboop@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:ecETTtTALHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The "Change Icon" command will open a 'file-open explorer window'
> to the folder of the file found in this registry string:
>
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\InternetShortcut\DefaultIcon
>
> Windows does not contain the computer code required to open to
> where the FavIcon is from within its text file (favorite.url).
>
>
> ju.c
>
>
> "Bobbi" <bobbi@example.invalid> wrote in message
> newslEwnj0$KHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I recently installed IE7 and found that it treats the icons for desktop
>> shortcuts to internet websites very differently from IE6. One problem is
>> that it insists on replacing the icon I've chosen with the website's
>> Favicon. I've solved that by making my shortcut read-only (although I
>> shouldn't have to do that).
>>
>> The other is that if I open the shortcut properties and click on "Change
>> Icon", it won't show me where the current icon is located, Instead it
>> presents a new icon library (shell32.dll). Is there some way to force it
>> to display the location of the current icon? (which may be some other dll
>> or an icon I created.)
>>
>> And how can I find other dll libraries of icons already on my computer?
>>
>> Bobbi

 

[Alan Edwards]

Bobbi

IMHO

Windows+IE6 contains the computer code required to open to where the
FavIcon is from within its text file (favorite.url)

Windows +IE7 does not contain the computer code required to open to
where the FavIcon is from within its text file (favorite.url).
(I do have IE6,IE7,IE8 on 3 computers in front of me)

Installing IE7 does change the way Windows functions as they are
inter-linked.

IE7/8 cannot be persuaded (AFAIK) to have the same behaviour as IE6
where the current location is shown from the .URL file when you use
Change Icon. (a pity)

I really don't see any reasonable solution, apart from putting all
your icons in a .dll library and altering the Registry key that juicy
mentioned to point to that file. That seems an overkill to me and I
think my first response may be easier.

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm



On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:54:41 -0700, in
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general, "Bobbi"
<bobbi@example.invalid> wrote:

>Well, IE6 used to do that. Why can't IE7? It's not Windows, it IE6 vs IE7.
>-Bobbi
>
>"ju.c" <bibidybubidyboop@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>news:ecETTtTALHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The "Change Icon" command will open a 'file-open explorer window'
>> to the folder of the file found in this registry string:
>>
>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\InternetShortcut\DefaultIcon
>>
>> Windows does not contain the computer code required to open to
>> where the FavIcon is from within its text file (favorite.url).
>>
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "Bobbi" <bobbi@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> newslEwnj0$KHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> I recently installed IE7 and found that it treats the icons for desktop
>>> shortcuts to internet websites very differently from IE6. One problem is
>>> that it insists on replacing the icon I've chosen with the website's
>>> Favicon. I've solved that by making my shortcut read-only (although I
>>> shouldn't have to do that).
>>>
>>> The other is that if I open the shortcut properties and click on "Change
>>> Icon", it won't show me where the current icon is located, Instead it
>>> presents a new icon library (shell32.dll). Is there some way to force it
>>> to display the location of the current icon? (which may be some other dll
>>> or an icon I created.)
>>>
>>> And how can I find other dll libraries of icons already on my computer?
>>>
>>> Bobbi
>

 

[Jeff Strickland]

"Bobbi" <bobbi@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23QWMjcgALHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Jeff, you're not listening. I do appreciate your trying to help, but
> you're just wrong about the selection of icons being limited. Applications
> usually supply icons, but anyone can create icon from an image he likes
> and use that icon instead. You're telling me how to use icons from
> existing libraries. But it doesn't matter whether I create my own or use
> an existing one.
>
> My point is that IE6 would let you see what the existing icon is and where
> it's located, whereas IE7 (for web shortcuts) doesn't do that; instead it
> suggests a new icon from a library it likes. I'm trying to find out
> whether I can restore IE6 behaviour in IE7.
>
> Bobbi
>
>

I'm trying really hard to not start a fight here. So please bare with me for
a moment ...

Are you saying that the icon can be SEEN, as in a thumbnail for lack of a
better term?

I can Right Click any icon on my Desktop, and select Change Icon, where the
icon library is displayed in pictoral format -- I can see the icons.

I'm not sure why I would want any of them as a desktop icon for an IE
shortcut, but I can see them and select them. I have the full directory path
displayed, so I can see what I'm looking at and where it is.

I don't make icons or swap them for other ones, but the problem you seem to
be having does not sound to me to be an Internet Explorer issue. I'm using
IE8, which should behave the same as IE7 for this issue, and I can change
icons. I'm also using XP, so my expereince in this matter could be different
than yours -- I don't know what your OS is.

 

[Rob]

Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm trying really hard to not start a fight here. So please bare with me for
> a moment ...
>
> Are you saying that the icon can be SEEN, as in a thumbnail for lack of a
> better term?

She has explained so many times what the question is and what answers
are not appropriate that it is kind of embarassing that you still did
not get it...