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LKGC question

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Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know is
to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If you
need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
drivers back.

Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these will
install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
install the drivers.

If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.

* There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System Restore
(or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.

Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
better method to recover from bad situations.


Debbie Graham wrote:
> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
> formatting.
>
>
> Debbie
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>
>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>
>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>
>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>> your hard drive"?
>>
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>> fix
>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do
>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
B

Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Daave wrote:
> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know is
> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If you
> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
> drivers back.
>
> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these will
> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
> install the drivers.


But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
available),
so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her (assuming
the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).

By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't been
following this thread very diligently!

> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>
> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System Restore
> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>
> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
> better method to recover from bad situations.


Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in handy
sometimes).

> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>> formatting.
>>
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>
>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>
>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>
>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>> your hard drive"?
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

I did have to try LKGC that's how I know it's the same as it was over a year
ago when I had to use it. I have always used ATI graphics and when I use
LKGC it says have it installed or it cannot fine the needed files/drivers.
No matter what version the drivers were, the recognizing of the ATI graphics
still should have been there.

I do have my drives backup but I need to do it more frequently. My pc does
run well just every once in a while I download something that I probably
shouldn't and it seems okay until I reboot, then that's when I find out
something changed.

Debbie

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:elWEr1WSLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know is
> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If you
> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
> drivers back.
>
> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these will
> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
> install the drivers.
>
> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some cases
> a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>
> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but you
> actively messed it up in the last week), then running System Restore (or
> perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely restore
> everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much damage).
> You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>
> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
> better method to recover from bad situations.
>
>
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>> formatting.
>>
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>
>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>
>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>
>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>> your hard drive"?
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John

>
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave my pc
on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once a
day.

LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was when I
did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select how to
start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but didn't
come up, to I choose LKGC.

Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
Debbie


"Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> Daave wrote:
>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know is
>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If you
>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>> drivers back.
>>
>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these will
>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>> install the drivers.

>
> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
> available),
> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her (assuming
> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>
> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't been
> following this thread very diligently!
>
>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>
>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System Restore
>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>
>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
>> better method to recover from bad situations.

>
> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
> handy sometimes).
>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>> formatting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>
>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John

>
>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

(A year ago is a long time!)

So why not reinstall the ATI graphic card drivers?

Then just make sure you regularly image your drive.

What sort of things do you download that you probably shouldn't?

Debbie Graham wrote:
> I did have to try LKGC that's how I know it's the same as it was over
> a year ago when I had to use it. I have always used ATI graphics and
> when I use LKGC it says have it installed or it cannot fine the
> needed files/drivers. No matter what version the drivers were, the
> recognizing of the ATI graphics still should have been there.
>
> I do have my drives backup but I need to do it more frequently. My pc
> does run well just every once in a while I download something that I
> probably shouldn't and it seems okay until I reboot, then that's when
> I find out something changed.
>
> Debbie
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:elWEr1WSLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly
>> know is to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem
>> to have a reason to run it in the first place (from what I
>> understand). If your drivers are noexistent, it just means you need
>> to install them. (If you need guidance, simply post back with
>> details.) Running LKGC at this point -- even assuming it's 100%
>> functional -- will not get you your
>> drivers back.
>>
>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>> will install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have
>> performance issues and your only issues are that some drivers are
>> missing, simply install the drivers.
>>
>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>
>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect
>> (but you actively messed it up in the last week), then running
>> System Restore (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT)
>> would very likely restore everything back to how it was (assuming
>> you didn't do too much damage). You would of course need to choose
>> the date of August 24. Now you hopefully see the value in imaging
>> your drive! That is an
>> even better method to recover from bad situations.
>>
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are
>>> non existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my
>>> missing drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>> formatting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>
>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>> than dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting
>>>>> from scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be
>>>>> ways to work around problems rather than format and start over.
>>>>> Formatting also decreases your hard drive performance and too
>>>>> much formatting can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>> lots of aggravation!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>> boot the machine then go and run the backup of one of those
>>>>>>>> would that fix
>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my
>>>>>>>>> current drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the
>>>>>>>>> LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the backup of one of
>>>>>>>>> those would that fix things? Now my question, I have the
>>>>>>>>> backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I
>>>>>>>>> used LKGC those files won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>>>>> or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
>>>>>>>>> partitions? Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>> programs run as services or rely on certain drivers (some
>>>>>>>>>> like AV software do, but most don't) programs don't or
>>>>>>>>>> should not record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
>>>>>>>>>> key and using a different Control Set should not affect
>>>>>>>>>> installed software. John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be
>>>>>>>>>>> reinstalled my new printer install had to be installed all
>>>>>>>>>>> over again, plus a few other programs of mine. Something is
>>>>>>>>>>> wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
>>>>>>>>>>> did a year ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago... unless the computer ran for a whole year without
>>>>>>>>>>>> being rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>> (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>>>>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult
>>>>>>>>>>>> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which
>>>>>>>>>>>> control set is the LKGC. John
 
B

Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Debbie Graham wrote:
> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave my
> pc
> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once a
> day.


Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the case,
you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved some manually
(which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5 days ago, that
option is moot.

Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but even
that one is a bit limited.

> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was when
> I
> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select how
> to
> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
> didn't
> come up, to I choose LKGC.


OK, thanks for the clarification.

> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
> Debbie
>
>
> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Daave wrote:
>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know is
>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If you
>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>> drivers back.
>>>
>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these will
>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>>> install the drivers.

>>
>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>> available),
>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her (assuming
>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>
>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't been
>> following this thread very diligently!
>>
>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>
>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System Restore
>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>
>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
>>> better method to recover from bad situations.

>>
>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>> handy sometimes).
>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>> formatting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
J

Jim

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

The ERUNT default is 30 days .



On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:03:09 -0600, "Bill in Co"
<surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Debbie Graham wrote:
>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave my
>> pc
>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once a
>> day.

>
>Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the case,
>you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved some manually
>(which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5 days ago, that
>option is moot.
>
>Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but even
>that one is a bit limited.
>
>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was when
>> I
>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select how
>> to
>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>> didn't
>> come up, to I choose LKGC.

>
>OK, thanks for the clarification.
>
>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know is
>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If you
>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>> drivers back.
>>>>
>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these will
>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>>>> install the drivers.
>>>
>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>> available),
>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her (assuming
>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>
>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't been
>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>
>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>>
>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System Restore
>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>
>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>
>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>> handy sometimes).
>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John

>
 
T

Tim Meddick

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options (you
can tell it to do just about anything!).

I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important to
me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.

(the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )

But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!

You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
"readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
options and syntax.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




"Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>> my pc
>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once a
>> day.

>
> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved some
> manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5
> days ago, that option is moot.
>
> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
> even that one is a bit limited.
>
>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>> when I
>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>> how to
>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>> didn't
>> come up, to I choose LKGC.

>
> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>
>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know
>>>> is
>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>> you
>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>> drivers back.
>>>>
>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>> will
>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>>>> install the drivers.
>>>
>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>> available),
>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>> (assuming
>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>
>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>> been
>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>
>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>>
>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>> Restore
>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>
>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>
>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>> handy sometimes).
>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John

>
>
 
B

Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Well, upon reading Jim's and your post, I musta customized it awhile back,
then. I had thought the autobackup default was 5 days worth, but I must
have set it. Senioritis is setting in, I fear. :)

Tim Meddick wrote:
> The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options (you
> can tell it to do just about anything!).
>
> I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important
> to
> me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.
>
> (the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
> sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )
>
> But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!
>
> You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
> "readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
> options and syntax.
>
> ==
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>>> my pc
>>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once a
>>> day.

>>
>> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
>> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved some
>> manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5
>> days ago, that option is moot.
>>
>> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
>> even that one is a bit limited.
>>
>>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>>> when I
>>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>>> how to
>>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>>> didn't
>>> come up, to I choose LKGC.

>>
>> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>>
>>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know
>>>>> is
>>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>>> you
>>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>>> drivers back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>>> will
>>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>>>>> install the drivers.
>>>>
>>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>>> available),
>>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>>> (assuming
>>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>>> been
>>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>>
>>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>>>
>>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
>>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>>> Restore
>>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
>>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
>>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>>> handy sometimes).
>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
T

Tim Meddick

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

If you have any difficulties, just post what it is you want ERUNT to do
(backup just the registry only or with user settings included, how often to
make the backup and where to place the backup ) and I will compose for
you, the appropriate command-line to do it. So you can replace the one you
have now. This is one of the ways a newsgroup like this one can be of
some help.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




"Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6P6dnU7Fy49kvOLRnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink.com...
> Well, upon reading Jim's and your post, I musta customized it awhile
> back, then. I had thought the autobackup default was 5 days worth, but
> I must have set it. Senioritis is setting in, I fear. :)
>
> Tim Meddick wrote:
>> The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options
>> (you
>> can tell it to do just about anything!).
>>
>> I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important
>> to
>> me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.
>>
>> (the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
>> sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )
>>
>> But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!
>>
>> You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
>> "readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
>> options and syntax.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>>>> my pc
>>>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once
>>>> a
>>>> day.
>>>
>>> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>>> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
>>> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved
>>> some
>>> manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5
>>> days ago, that option is moot.
>>>
>>> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
>>> even that one is a bit limited.
>>>
>>>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>>>> when I
>>>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>>>> how to
>>>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>>>> didn't
>>>> come up, to I choose LKGC.
>>>
>>> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>>>
>>>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>>>> drivers back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have
>>>>>> performance
>>>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing,
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>> install the drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>>>> available),
>>>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>>>> (assuming
>>>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>>>> been
>>>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain
>>>>>> situations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect
>>>>>> (but
>>>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>>>> Restore
>>>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>>>> handy sometimes).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are
>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the
>>>>>>> LKGC
>>>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my
>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over.
>>>>>>>>> Formatting
>>>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much
>>>>>>>>> formatting
>>>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John

>
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

I do reinstall the ATI but it gets to be a pain especially when I also have
to reinstall about a half dozen programs too.




Debbie


"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:ewhHIJfSLHA.5388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> (A year ago is a long time!)
>
> So why not reinstall the ATI graphic card drivers?
>
> Then just make sure you regularly image your drive.
>
> What sort of things do you download that you probably shouldn't?
>
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> I did have to try LKGC that's how I know it's the same as it was over
>> a year ago when I had to use it. I have always used ATI graphics and
>> when I use LKGC it says have it installed or it cannot fine the
>> needed files/drivers. No matter what version the drivers were, the
>> recognizing of the ATI graphics still should have been there.
>>
>> I do have my drives backup but I need to do it more frequently. My pc
>> does run well just every once in a while I download something that I
>> probably shouldn't and it seems okay until I reboot, then that's when
>> I find out something changed.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:elWEr1WSLHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly
>>> know is to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem
>>> to have a reason to run it in the first place (from what I
>>> understand). If your drivers are noexistent, it just means you need
>>> to install them. (If you need guidance, simply post back with
>>> details.) Running LKGC at this point -- even assuming it's 100%
>>> functional -- will not get you your
>>> drivers back.
>>>
>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>> will install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have
>>> performance issues and your only issues are that some drivers are
>>> missing, simply install the drivers.
>>>
>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>
>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect
>>> (but you actively messed it up in the last week), then running
>>> System Restore (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT)
>>> would very likely restore everything back to how it was (assuming
>>> you didn't do too much damage). You would of course need to choose
>>> the date of August 24. Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your
>>> drive! That is an
>>> even better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are
>>>> non existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my
>>>> missing drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>> formatting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>> than dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting
>>>>>> from scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be
>>>>>> ways to work around problems rather than format and start over.
>>>>>> Formatting also decreases your hard drive performance and too
>>>>>> much formatting can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>> lots of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>> boot the machine then go and run the backup of one of those
>>>>>>>>> would that fix
>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my
>>>>>>>>>> current drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the
>>>>>>>>>> LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the backup of one of
>>>>>>>>>> those would that fix things? Now my question, I have the
>>>>>>>>>> backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I
>>>>>>>>>> used LKGC those files won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>>>>>> or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
>>>>>>>>>> partitions? Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>> programs run as services or rely on certain drivers (some
>>>>>>>>>>> like AV software do, but most don't) programs don't or
>>>>>>>>>>> should not record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM
>>>>>>>>>>> key and using a different Control Set should not affect
>>>>>>>>>>> installed software. John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstalled my new printer install had to be installed all
>>>>>>>>>>>> over again, plus a few other programs of mine. Something is
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
>>>>>>>>>>>> did a year ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago... unless the computer ran for a whole year without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> control set is the LKGC. John

>
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Okay Tim you got me curious here. If my LKGC isn't backing up successful
boot then setting the ERUNT to do it won't work either, right? How and
where do you set the commands? I guess mine is on default AUTOBACK
DestinationFolder (sysreg) (curuser) (otherusers) (/noconfirmeddelete)
(/noprogresswindow) (/days:n) (/alwayscreate)

Debbie


"Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%232Tp%23jjSLHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options (you
> can tell it to do just about anything!).
>
> I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important
> to me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.
>
> (the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
> sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )
>
> But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!
>
> You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
> "readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
> options and syntax.
>
> ==
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>>> my pc
>>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once a
>>> day.

>>
>> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
>> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved some
>> manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5
>> days ago, that option is moot.
>>
>> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
>> even that one is a bit limited.
>>
>>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>>> when I
>>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>>> how to
>>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>>> didn't
>>> come up, to I choose LKGC.

>>
>> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>>
>>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know
>>>>> is
>>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>>> you
>>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>>> drivers back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>>> will
>>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>>>>> install the drivers.
>>>>
>>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>>> available),
>>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>>> (assuming
>>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>>> been
>>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>>
>>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>>>
>>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect (but
>>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>>> Restore
>>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too much
>>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an even
>>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>>> handy sometimes).
>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non
>>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my missing
>>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John

>>
>>

>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Debbie Graham wrote:
> I do reinstall the ATI but it gets to be a pain especially when I
> also have to reinstall about a half dozen programs too.


That is precisely the reason you should image your drive once you
reinstall your drivers, programs, updates, etc. This way, you would
*never* have to reinstall them again! No more pain. :)
 
B

Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

TNX, no difficulties here. :) I've got it the way I want (5 days worth).
I evidently forgot what I had done! (I usually write some notes, but you
know how that goes, since what seems so obvious at the time ... is long
forgotten a year later)!

Tim Meddick wrote:
> If you have any difficulties, just post what it is you want ERUNT to do
> (backup just the registry only or with user settings included, how often
> to
> make the backup and where to place the backup ) and I will compose for
> you, the appropriate command-line to do it. So you can replace the one
> you
> have now. This is one of the ways a newsgroup like this one can be of
> some help.
>
> ==
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>
>
>
>
> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:6P6dnU7Fy49kvOLRnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Well, upon reading Jim's and your post, I musta customized it awhile
>> back, then. I had thought the autobackup default was 5 days worth, but
>> I must have set it. Senioritis is setting in, I fear. :)
>>
>> Tim Meddick wrote:
>>> The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options
>>> (you
>>> can tell it to do just about anything!).
>>>
>>> I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important
>>> to
>>> me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.
>>>
>>> (the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
>>> sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )
>>>
>>> But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!
>>>
>>> You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
>>> "readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
>>> options and syntax.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>>>>> my pc
>>>>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once
>>>>> a
>>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>>>> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
>>>> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved
>>>> some
>>>> manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5
>>>> days ago, that option is moot.
>>>>
>>>> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
>>>> even that one is a bit limited.
>>>>
>>>>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>>>>> when I
>>>>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>>>>> how to
>>>>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> come up, to I choose LKGC.
>>>>
>>>> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>>>>> drivers back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have
>>>>>>> performance
>>>>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing,
>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>> install the drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>>>>> available),
>>>>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>>>>> (assuming
>>>>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain
>>>>>>> situations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect
>>>>>>> (but
>>>>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>>>>> Restore
>>>>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>>>>> handy sometimes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are
>>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the
>>>>>>>> LKGC
>>>>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my
>>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over.
>>>>>>>>>> Formatting
>>>>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much
>>>>>>>>>> formatting
>>>>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
B

Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Just to add to this, Debbie, ERUNT "simply" saves the current registry and
system configuration files, and restoring an older ERUNT backup does just
the reverse - puts that (and only that) back to that state (anything
installed since then would have to be reinstalled, but the files will still
be left on your disk, unlike when using System Restore). So IF you still
have an older ERUNT backup *where everything was still working ok*,
restoring that one might work for you. But if you only have a few days
worth of ERUNT backups, it's probably too late.

Debbie Graham wrote:
> Okay Tim you got me curious here. If my LKGC isn't backing up successful
> boot then setting the ERUNT to do it won't work either, right? How and
> where do you set the commands? I guess mine is on default AUTOBACK
> DestinationFolder (sysreg) (curuser) (otherusers) (/noconfirmeddelete)
> (/noprogresswindow) (/days:n) (/alwayscreate)
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%232Tp%23jjSLHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options (you
>> can tell it to do just about anything!).
>>
>> I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important
>> to me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.
>>
>> (the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
>> sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )
>>
>> But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!
>>
>> You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
>> "readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
>> options and syntax.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>>>> my pc
>>>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once
>>>> a
>>>> day.
>>>
>>> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>>> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
>>> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved some
>>> manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more than 5
>>> days ago, that option is moot.
>>>
>>> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
>>> even that one is a bit limited.
>>>
>>>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>>>> when I
>>>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>>>> how to
>>>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>>>> didn't
>>>> come up, to I choose LKGC.
>>>
>>> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>>>
>>>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly know
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If your
>>>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>>>> drivers back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have performance
>>>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing, simply
>>>>>> install the drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>>>> available),
>>>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>>>> (assuming
>>>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>>>> been
>>>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain situations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect
>>>>>> (but
>>>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>>>> Restore
>>>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>>>> handy sometimes).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was
>>>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are
>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the LKGC
>>>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my
>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
>>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had
>>>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and
>>>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
T

Tim Meddick

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

If you have a copy of ERUNT on your system, then you should read, very
carefully, through it's help documentation.

I have to say, it taught me allot about the NT registry, where it's files
reside and the names of their files, and the possible ways of restoring
them.

But, as I think this may be what you meant in your last reply, it won't
work alone to restore the registry, if Windows won't start at all!

But if ERUNT has made regular back-ups, you need to be able to use the
Windows Recovery Console, with which you can then easily restore the copies
ERUNT has made, back to their original locations.

As a matter of fact, my XP PC told me it could not load my profile, and so
re-set to default ALL OF MY USER SETTINGS!! But as I had included the
"curuser" switch with ERUNT - I was able to locate a backup of my
"ntuser.dat" file and copy it to my profile folder. All was then back as
it was - phew!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




"Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
news:-O0s0xRvSLHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Okay Tim you got me curious here. If my LKGC isn't backing up
> successful boot then setting the ERUNT to do it won't work either, right?
> How and where do you set the commands? I guess mine is on default
> AUTOBACK DestinationFolder (sysreg) (curuser) (otherusers)
> (/noconfirmeddelete) (/noprogresswindow) (/days:n) (/alwayscreate)
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%232Tp%23jjSLHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> The ERUNT application is very versatile in it's command-line options
>> (you can tell it to do just about anything!).
>>
>> I have it set to backup the registry (including current user - important
>> to me) once a day, overwriting after 7 days.
>>
>> (the command-line for that is; "AUTOBACK.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date#
>> sysreg curuser /days:7 /noprogresswindow" )
>>
>> But, you could equally have it do a backup on every successful boot!
>>
>> You don't have to rely on ERUNT's default behaviours - just consult the
>> "readme.txt" file within your ERUNT directory, for full command-line
>> options and syntax.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:eek:YKdnSoYDZPzPuPRnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> The ERUNT backups up the registry everytime I reboot and since I leave
>>>> my pc
>>>> on just put it to sleep when not using, I try and reboot at least once
>>>> a
>>>> day.
>>>
>>> Normally ERUNT creates a new backup each new day after rebooting (for 5
>>> days) under autobackup, not each time you reboot. And if that's the
>>> case, you'd only have 5 days worth of backups, unless you had saved
>>> some manually (which I do, on occasion). So if this happened more
>>> than 5 days ago, that option is moot.
>>>
>>> Well, there is always System Restore as another possible fallback, but
>>> even that one is a bit limited.
>>>
>>>> LKGC is last known good configuration. The reason I had to use it was
>>>> when I
>>>> did reboot I got the screen that said something changed....etc select
>>>> how to
>>>> start computer, I tried safe boot and it ran through the drivers but
>>>> didn't
>>>> come up, to I choose LKGC.
>>>
>>> OK, thanks for the clarification.
>>>
>>>> Yeah I'm going to keep up on my drive backups, especially the c drive.
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yf2dncbchowaaeDRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>> How do you know LKGC is not working right? The only way to truly
>>>>>> know is
>>>>>> to use it and see what happens. Then again, you don't seem to have a
>>>>>> reason to run it in the first place (from what I understand). If
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> drivers are noexistent, it just means you need to install them. (If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> need guidance, simply post back with details.) Running LKGC at this
>>>>>> point -- even assuming it's 100% functional -- will not get you your
>>>>>> drivers back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, registry backups, System Restore, LKGC -- none of these
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> install drivers for you (most likely*). If you don't have
>>>>>> performance
>>>>>> issues and your only issues are that some drivers are missing,
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>> install the drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that may not be so simple though (it assumes they are readily
>>>>> available),
>>>>> so possibly restoring the older ERUNT backup might work for her
>>>>> (assuming
>>>>> the driver files weren't deleted and this wasn't too long ago).
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I don't know what LKGC is (or stands for), but I haven't
>>>>> been
>>>>> following this thread very diligently!
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you suspect a malware infestation, address that. And yes, in some
>>>>>> cases a Clean Install is the quickest solution in certain
>>>>>> situations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * There is an exception. If one week ago, your system was perfect
>>>>>> (but
>>>>>> you actively messed it up in the last week), then running System
>>>>>> Restore
>>>>>> (or perhaps restoring your registry using ERUNT) would very likely
>>>>>> restore everything back to how it was (assuming you didn't do too
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> damage). You would of course need to choose the date of August 24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now you hopefully see the value in imaging your drive! That is an
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> better method to recover from bad situations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely! The BEST way, hands down! (although ERUNT also comes in
>>>>> handy sometimes).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> over a year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are
>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>> existent like my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I
>>>>>>> wanted to know instead of doing a clean install would using the
>>>>>>> LKGC
>>>>>>> and then using a registry backup from the ERUNT folder get my
>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>> drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>>>>>>> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> formatting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution,
>>>>>>>> you gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable
>>>>>>>> amount of agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that;
>>>>>>>> perhaps you see this as more of a learning exercise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> you bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think
>>>>>>>> John's suggestion is a valid one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to
>>>>>>>> follow! It seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> didn't like what you saw. But are there any actual performance
>>>>>>>> issues? Which drivers are not loading?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage
>>>>>>>> your hard drive"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>>>>>>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> work around problems rather than format and start over.
>>>>>>>>> Formatting
>>>>>>>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much
>>>>>>>>> formatting
>>>>>>>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself
>>>>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot, or do
>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if I have to use it again would this work to get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERUNT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be touched?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> record anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a different Control Set should not affect installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ATI) is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstalled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my new printer install had to be installed all over again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus a few other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not have the same configuration now as I did a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Debbie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive results. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
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