• Welcome to Tux Reports: Where Penguins Fly. We hope you find the topics varied, interesting, and worthy of your time. Please become a member and join in the discussions.

LKGC question

D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
I found this, would this help me and how would I go about doing it

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142033

Debbie


"Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
news:%23XyK5HvQLHA.5388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Also I just found this, under ControlSet001 my ATI driver and graphics
> card stuff is there but under ControlSet002 it isn't. So is the
> ControlSet002 that keeps loading for me when I use the LKGC? How do I fix
> it?
>
> Debbie
>
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
>>> I
>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>> Which
>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>> now, it
>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>
>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
>>
>> John
>
>
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Help in what way? If you are wanting to boot back to the failed
configuration then follow the instructions in the article. Your present
control sets at the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key are as follows:

Current 0x3
Default 0x3
Failed 0x1
LastKnownGood 0x2

To restore the failed control set change the value data as such:

Current 0x1
Default 0x1
Failed 0x2
LastKnownGood 0x3

If the machine fails to boot after you do this boot again to the LKGC
and it will boot to the control set that you are now using.

John


On 8/25/2010 5:38 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
> I found this, would this help me and how would I go about doing it
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142033
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "Debbie Graham"<jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
> news:%23XyK5HvQLHA.5388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Also I just found this, under ControlSet001 my ATI driver and graphics
>> card stuff is there but under ControlSet002 it isn't. So is the
>> ControlSet002 that keeps loading for me when I use the LKGC? How do I fix
>> it?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
>>>> I
>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>>> Which
>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>>> now, it
>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>
>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>>
>
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if I have
to use it again would this work to get my current drivers working. I also
use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the
backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my question, I have the
backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those
files won't be touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
wouldn't boot, or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
partitions? Thanks


Debbie


"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>
> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should not
> affect installed software.
>
> John
>
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did
>> a year ago.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
>>>> I
>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>>> Which
>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>>> now, it
>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
>>>
>>> John
>>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if I have
to use it again would this work to get my current drivers working. I also
use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the
backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my question, I have the
backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those
files won't be touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
wouldn't boot, or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
partitions? Thanks



Debbie


"Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if I
> have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers working. I
> also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine then go and run
> the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my question, I have
> the backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC
> those files won't be touched? The files will be the same ones before the
> pc wouldn't boot, or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
> partitions? Thanks
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>
>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
>> not affect installed software.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used
>>> it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
>>> did a year ago.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>> results. I
>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>> read
>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>>>> Which
>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>>>> now, it
>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>
>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots of
aggravation!


Debbie Graham wrote:
> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I need
> to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I
>> need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>
>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
>>> as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
>>> but most don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
>>> should not affect installed software.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
>>>> used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
>>>> non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have the
>>>> same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
>>>>>> them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
>>>>>> too many? Which
>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
>>>>> the computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
>>>>> computer boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight,
>>>>> today's boot configuration (right after a user logs on) will be
>>>>> the Last Known Good Configuration the next time the computer is
>>>>> booted. Consult the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know
>>>>> which control set is the LKGC. John
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

I did do everything John suggested for your information.

Debbie



"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots of
> aggravation!
>
>
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my
>> question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I need
>> to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my
>>> question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I
>>> need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>
>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
>>>> as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
>>>> but most don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
>>>> should not affect installed software.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
>>>>> used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
>>>>> non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have the
>>>>> same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
>>>>>>> them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
>>>>>>> too many? Which
>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
>>>>>> the computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
>>>>>> computer boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight,
>>>>>> today's boot configuration (right after a user logs on) will be
>>>>>> the Last Known Good Configuration the next time the computer is
>>>>>> booted. Consult the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know
>>>>>> which control set is the LKGC. John
>
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than dealing
with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from scratch always have
to be a final solution? There has to be ways to work around problems rather
than format and start over. Formatting also decreases your hard drive
performance and too much formatting can damage your hard drive.
Debbie
"Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots of
>> aggravation!
>>
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my
>>> question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I need
>>> to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>>>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I
>>>> need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>
>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
>>>>> as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
>>>>> but most don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
>>>>> should not affect installed software.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
>>>>>> used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
>>>>>> non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have the
>>>>>> same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
>>>>>>>> them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
>>>>>>>> too many? Which
>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
>>>>>>> the computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
>>>>>>> computer boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight,
>>>>>>> today's boot configuration (right after a user logs on) will be
>>>>>>> the Last Known Good Configuration the next time the computer is
>>>>>>> booted. Consult the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know
>>>>>>> which control set is the LKGC. John
>>
>>
>
>
 
M

MerseyBeat

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

"Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
news:eXoJWiMSLHA.5324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ...Formatting also decreases your hard drive performance and too much
> formatting can damage your hard drive.

And where, may I ask did you come to believe this nonsense ?

You may want to read this:
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=84&pgno=1#myth-1

MB
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Other than marking the LKGC changes in the System hive booting to the
LKGC doesn't change any files on the computer. Your machine is borked
and you are trying to avoid the inevitable by bodging things together...

John

On 8/29/2010 11:10 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if I have
> to use it again would this work to get my current drivers working. I also
> use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the
> backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my question, I have the
> backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those
> files won't be touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
> wouldn't boot, or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
> partitions? Thanks
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>
>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should not
>> affect installed software.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did
>>> a year ago.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
>>>>> I
>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>>>> Which
>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>>>> now, it
>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>
>
 
D

Daave

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution, you
gave me the impression you were experiencing a considerable amount of
agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that; perhaps you see
this as more of a learning exercise.

That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had you
bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think John's
suggestion is a valid one.

What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to follow! It
seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and didn't like
what you saw. But are there any actual performance issues? Which drivers
are not loading?

Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage your
hard drive"?


Debbie Graham wrote:
> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>> of aggravation!
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the
>>>> machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix
>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't
>>>> boot, or do
>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>> fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>> touched?
>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions?
>>>>> Thanks Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
>>>>>> Which Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not record
>>>>>> anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a
>>>>>> different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI)
>>>>>>> is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have
>>>>>>> the same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3
>>>>>>>>> of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I
>>>>>>>>> have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after a
>>>>>>>> user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Can you verify the ReportBootOk value at:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

Is the value present and is it set to 1?

John


Debbie Graham wrote:
> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than dealing
> with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from scratch always have
> to be a final solution? There has to be ways to work around problems rather
> than format and start over. Formatting also decreases your hard drive
> performance and too much formatting can damage your hard drive.
> Debbie
> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots of
>>> aggravation!
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my
>>>> question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I need
>>>> to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>>>>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I
>>>>> need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
>>>>>> as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
>>>>>> but most don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
>>>>>> should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
>>>>>>> used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
>>>>>>> non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have the
>>>>>>> same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
>>>>>>>>> them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
>>>>>>>>> too many? Which
>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
>>>>>>>> the computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
>>>>>>>> computer boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight,
>>>>>>>> today's boot configuration (right after a user logs on) will be
>>>>>>>> the Last Known Good Configuration the next time the computer is
>>>>>>>> booted. Consult the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know
>>>>>>>> which control set is the LKGC. John
>>>
>>
>
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

The PC place where I take my pc in sometimes said that.
Debbie


"MerseyBeat" <Idont@accept.email> wrote in message
news:i5iarq$ju$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
> news:eXoJWiMSLHA.5324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>> ...Formatting also decreases your hard drive performance and too much
>> formatting can damage your hard drive.
>
> And where, may I ask did you come to believe this nonsense ?
>
> You may want to read this:
> http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=84&pgno=1#myth-1
>
> MB
>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Yes it's set to 1. I assume that's a good thing?

Debbie


"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:e2BCBxQSLHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Can you verify the ReportBootOk value at:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
>
> Is the value present and is it set to 1?
>
> John
>
>
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from scratch
>> always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to work around
>> problems rather than format and start over. Formatting also decreases
>> your hard drive performance and too much formatting can damage your hard
>> drive.
>> Debbie
>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots of
>>>> aggravation!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>>>>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I need
>>>>> to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>>>>>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I
>>>>>> need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
>>>>>>> as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
>>>>>>> but most don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
>>>>>>> should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
>>>>>>>> used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
>>>>>>>> non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have the
>>>>>>>> same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
>>>>>>>>>> them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
>>>>>>>>>> too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
>>>>>>>>> the computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
>>>>>>>>> computer boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight,
>>>>>>>>> today's boot configuration (right after a user logs on) will be
>>>>>>>>> the Last Known Good Configuration the next time the computer is
>>>>>>>>> booted. Consult the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know
>>>>>>>>> which control set is the LKGC. John
>>>>
>>>
>>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
So using one of the backup registry files from the ERUNT folder will help
with the missing drivers that LKGC isn't loading


Debbie


"John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:-ORyzloPSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Other than marking the LKGC changes in the System hive booting to the LKGC
> doesn't change any files on the computer. Your machine is borked and you
> are trying to avoid the inevitable by bodging things together...
>
> John
>
> On 8/29/2010 11:10 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if I
>> have
>> to use it again would this work to get my current drivers working. I
>> also
>> use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the
>> backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my question, I have
>> the
>> backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those
>> files won't be touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
>> wouldn't boot, or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
>> partitions? Thanks
>>
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>
>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
>>> not
>>> affect installed software.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used
>>>> it
>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
>>>> did
>>>> a year ago.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>>>>> Which
>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>>>>> now, it
>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
>>>>> LKGC.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>
 
D

Debbie Graham

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was over a
year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non existent like
my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I wanted to know instead of
doing a clean install would using the LKGC and then using a registry backup
from the ERUNT folder get my missing drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.

The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
formatting.


Debbie

"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution, you gave
> me the impression you were experiencing a considerable amount of
> agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that; perhaps you see this
> as more of a learning exercise.
>
> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had you
> bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think John's
> suggestion is a valid one.
>
> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to follow! It
> seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and didn't like what
> you saw. But are there any actual performance issues? Which drivers are
> not loading?
>
> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage your hard
> drive"?
>
>
> Debbie Graham wrote:
>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the
>>>>> machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix
>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>> or do
>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>> fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>> touched?
>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not record
>>>>>>> anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a
>>>>>>> different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI)
>>>>>>>> is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have
>>>>>>>> the same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3
>>>>>>>>>> of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I
>>>>>>>>>> have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after a
>>>>>>>>> user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
>
>
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

That is how it's supposed to be, a value of zero would disable the
creation of the LKGC control set. The problem isn't there...

John

Debbie Graham wrote:
> Yes it's set to 1. I assume that's a good thing?
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:e2BCBxQSLHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Can you verify the ReportBootOk value at:
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
>>
>> Is the value present and is it set to 1?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from scratch
>>> always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to work around
>>> problems rather than format and start over. Formatting also decreases
>>> your hard drive performance and too much formatting can damage your hard
>>> drive.
>>> Debbie
>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots of
>>>>> aggravation!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>>>>>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I need
>>>>>> to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if
>>>>>>> I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine
>>>>>>> then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix things? Now
>>>>>>> my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the windows
>>>>>>> directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be touched? The
>>>>>>> files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or do I
>>>>>>> need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
>>>>>>>> as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
>>>>>>>> but most don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
>>>>>>>> should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
>>>>>>>>> used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
>>>>>>>>> non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have the
>>>>>>>>> same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
>>>>>>>>>>> them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
>>>>>>>>>>> too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
>>>>>>>>>> the computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
>>>>>>>>>> computer boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight,
>>>>>>>>>> today's boot configuration (right after a user logs on) will be
>>>>>>>>>> the Last Known Good Configuration the next time the computer is
>>>>>>>>>> booted. Consult the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know
>>>>>>>>>> which control set is the LKGC. John
>
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

They don't know what they are talking about...

John

Debbie Graham wrote:
> The PC place where I take my pc in sometimes said that.
> Debbie
>
>
> "MerseyBeat" <Idont@accept.email> wrote in message
> news:i5iarq$ju$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>> news:eXoJWiMSLHA.5324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> ...Formatting also decreases your hard drive performance and too much
>>> formatting can damage your hard drive.
>> And where, may I ask did you come to believe this nonsense ?
>>
>> You may want to read this:
>> http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=84&pgno=1#myth-1
>>
>> MB
>>
>
>
 
J

John John - MVP

Flightless Bird
I have no way of knowing what you have backed up with ERUNT and how it
will work if you restore old system hives. In no uncertain terms I
think that you are kicking a dead horse...

John

Debbie Graham wrote:
> So using one of the backup registry files from the ERUNT folder will help
> with the missing drivers that LKGC isn't loading
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:-ORyzloPSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Other than marking the LKGC changes in the System hive booting to the LKGC
>> doesn't change any files on the computer. Your machine is borked and you
>> are trying to avoid the inevitable by bodging things together...
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 8/29/2010 11:10 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and if I
>>> have
>>> to use it again would this work to get my current drivers working. I
>>> also
>>> use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the machine then go and run the
>>> backup of one of those would that fix things? Now my question, I have
>>> the
>>> backups for ERUNT in the windows directory, even though I used LKGC those
>>> files won't be touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc
>>> wouldn't boot, or do I need to move the backups on one of my other
>>> partitions? Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>
>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
>>>> not
>>>> affect installed software.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used
>>>>> it
>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
>>>>> did
>>>>> a year ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
>>>>>>> Which
>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
>>>>>>> now, it
>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
>>>>>> LKGC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>
>
 
B

Bill in Co

Flightless Bird
Re: LKGC question update 8-30

I haven't been following all of this, but just wanted to make a general
suggestion:
Why don't you try it? First make a current backup using ERUNT, then try
the older one, and if no joy, restore the previously made ERUNT backup?
But keep in mind if the older ERUNT backup does work as far as your drivers
are concerned, you're still stuck with the system files as of that date
(anything installed since then would need to be reinstalled, etc, etc).

Debbie Graham wrote:
> Daave, my problem is my LKGC. It's the same configuration as it was over
> a
> year ago. It's not working right. Most of my drivers are non existent
> like
> my ATI graphics, printers, avg antivirus, etc. I wanted to know instead
> of
> doing a clean install would using the LKGC and then using a registry
> backup
> from the ERUNT folder get my missing drivers back that LKGC isn't loading.
>
> The tech guy where I get my pc worked on sometimes told me about the
> formatting.
>
>
> Debbie
>
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:uYyQ20PSLHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> From looking at the large volume of posts without any resolution, you
>> gave
>> me the impression you were experiencing a considerable amount of
>> agggravation. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that; perhaps you see this
>> as more of a learning exercise.
>>
>> That being said, you would no longer be experiencing this issue had you
>> bitten the bullet and performed a Clean Install. I still think John's
>> suggestion is a valid one.
>>
>> What exactly is your PC's problem? This thread is not easy to follow! It
>> seemed you were mucking around in the Windows folder and didn't like what
>> you saw. But are there any actual performance issues? Which drivers are
>> not loading?
>>
>> Where did you get this idea that "too much formatting can damage your
>> hard
>> drive"?
>>
>>
>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>> Also rebuilding from scratch would be more of a headache for me than
>>> dealing with some drivers not loading. Why does starting from
>>> scratch always have to be a final solution? There has to be ways to
>>> work around problems rather than format and start over. Formatting
>>> also decreases your hard drive performance and too much formatting
>>> can damage your hard drive. Debbie
>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u4Xk8aMSLHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> I did do everything John suggested for your information.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:egOASSLSLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Had you followed John's suggestion, you'd have saved yourself lots
>>>>> of aggravation!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current drivers
>>>>>> working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot the
>>>>>> machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that fix
>>>>>> things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>> touched? The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot,
>>>>>> or do
>>>>>> I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:-OLumKP4RLHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hey John would this work for me? Since my LKGC is messed up, and
>>>>>>> if I have to use it again would this work to get my current
>>>>>>> drivers working. I also use ERUNT, so if I use the LKGC to boot
>>>>>>> the machine then go and run the backup of one of those would that
>>>>>>> fix things? Now my question, I have the backups for ERUNT in the
>>>>>>> windows directory, even though I used LKGC those files won't be
>>>>>>> touched?
>>>>>>> The files will be the same ones before the pc wouldn't boot, or
>>>>>>> do I need to move the backups on one of my other partitions? Thanks
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
>>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
>>>>>>>> run as services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV
>>>>>>>> software do, but most don't) programs don't or should not record
>>>>>>>> anything in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a
>>>>>>>> different Control Set should not affect installed software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
>>>>>>>>> just used it again a few days ago and it's the same exact
>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI)
>>>>>>>>> is non existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new
>>>>>>>>> printer install had to be installed all over again, plus a few
>>>>>>>>> other programs of mine. Something is wrong, I should not have
>>>>>>>>> the same configuration now as I did a year ago.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
>>>>>>>>>>> results. I
>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I read
>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3
>>>>>>>>>>> of them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I
>>>>>>>>>>> have too many? Which
>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
>>>>>>>>>>> it is now, it
>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
>>>>>>>>>> Good Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
>>>>>>>>>> unless the computer ran for a whole year without being
>>>>>>>>>> rebooted. If the computer boots properly today and if you
>>>>>>>>>> turn it off tonight, today's boot configuration (right after a
>>>>>>>>>> user logs on) will be the Last Known Good Configuration the
>>>>>>>>>> next time the computer is booted. Consult the
>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
>>>>>>>>>> the LKGC. John
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top