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LKGC question

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Debbie Graham, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
    just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
    one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now, it
    makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


    Debbie
     
  2. Tim Meddick

    Tim Meddick Flightless Bird

    These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

    Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to Local
    Services.

    Most PCs I've seen have : -

    CurrentControlSet
    ControlSet001
    ControlSet003

    ....and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

    But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

    ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003 is a
    backup.

    You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet or
    ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced automatically in
    the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does not change.

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




    "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
    news:eWQzlAaQLHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
    >just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >Which one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
    >now, it makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >
    >
    > Debbie
    >
     
  3. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    So is that why my LKGC is messed up? How do I fix it?

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//LKGC.jpg

    Debbie

    "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:%23FPgBkaQLHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.
    >
    > Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to Local
    > Services.
    >
    > Most PCs I've seen have : -
    >
    > CurrentControlSet
    > ControlSet001
    > ControlSet003
    >
    > ...and NOT a ControlSet002 !!
    >
    > But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.
    >
    > ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003 is
    > a backup.
    >
    > You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet
    > or ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced
    > automatically in the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does
    > not change.
    >
    > ==
    >
    > Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
    > news:eWQzlAaQLHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
    >>just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >>where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >>ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
    >>one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
    >>it makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>

    >
     
  4. Tim Meddick

    Tim Meddick Flightless Bird

    Why is it you think LKGC *is* messed up??

    The Last Known Good Configuration does have something to do with the
    Hardware Profile stored in : -

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControlSet

    The data contained within this registry key is actually stored in a single
    file on your system called : -

    C:/WINDOWS\system32\config\system

    (no extension), and it is a backup of this file contained within the folder
    : -

    C:/WINDOWS\repair

    ....that replaces the old copy when you choose the LKGC option after
    pressing the [F8] key at boot.

    The only way LKGC will not work is if there is no "system" file in the
    "C:/WINDOWS\repair" directory!

    If you feel that you want the ability to backup / restore the WinXP
    registry files, you could do worse than download and read through the
    documentation of the free application - ERUNT.exe Available by clicking on
    the link below :

    http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe

    Also, I would learn how to install / use the Windows Recovery Console
    (install by inserting the XP cd and typing "D:/i386\winnt32.exe /cmdcons"
    into the "Run" box on the start menu) - where [D:] is the drive-letter of
    your cd-rom drive.

    Look up "Recovery Console" in the WinXP Help and Support Center.

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




    "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
    news:eYlbgTbQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > So is that why my LKGC is messed up? How do I fix it?
    >
    > http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//LKGC.jpg
    >
    > Debbie
    >
    > "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:%23FPgBkaQLHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.
    >>
    >> Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to
    >> Local Services.
    >>
    >> Most PCs I've seen have : -
    >>
    >> CurrentControlSet
    >> ControlSet001
    >> ControlSet003
    >>
    >> ...and NOT a ControlSet002 !!
    >>
    >> But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.
    >>
    >> ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003
    >> is a backup.
    >>
    >> You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet
    >> or ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced
    >> automatically in the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does
    >> not change.
    >>
    >> ==
    >>
    >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Debbie Graham" <jgraham1@luvscats.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eWQzlAaQLHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
    >>>I just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
    >>>read where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
    >>>them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>many? Which one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
    >>>way it is now, it makes most of my programs useless and have to
    >>>reinstall them.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Debbie
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >
     
  5. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    > I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
    > just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    > where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    > ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
    > one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now, it
    > makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


    No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

    John
     
  6. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
    again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
    existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install had
    to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
    Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did a
    year ago.

    Debbie


    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
    >> I
    >> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >> Which
    >> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
    >> it
    >> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

    >
    > No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    > Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    > computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    > boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    > configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    > Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
    >
    > John
     
  7. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    Also I just found this, under ControlSet001 my ATI driver and graphics card
    stuff is there but under ControlSet002 it isn't. So is the ControlSet002
    that keeps loading for me when I use the LKGC? How do I fix it?

    Debbie

    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
    >> I
    >> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >> Which
    >> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
    >> it
    >> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

    >
    > No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    > Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    > computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    > boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    > configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    > Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
    >
    > John
     
  8. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?

    There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
    don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
    not affect installed software.

    John

    Debbie Graham wrote:
    > That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
    > again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    > configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
    > existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install had
    > to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
    > Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did a
    > year ago.
    >
    > Debbie
    >
    >
    > "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    > news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
    >>> I
    >>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >>> Which
    >>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
    >>> it
    >>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

    >> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    >> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    >> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
    >>
    >> John

    >
    >
     
  9. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg

    Debbie



    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    > Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >
    > There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    > services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
    > don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should not
    > affect installed software.
    >
    > John
    >
    > Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
    >> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
    >> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
    >> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
    >> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did
    >> a year ago.
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
    >>>> I
    >>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >>>> Which
    >>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
    >>>> now, it
    >>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    >>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    >>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
    >>>
    >>> John

    >>
     
  10. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is the
    one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.

    The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.

    ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    anything, don't compare the LKGC set to this one.


    Here is a little test that you can do:

    Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing,
    the system just ignores them. Right click on the
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name
    the new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at any
    time after your test is done.

    Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you will
    see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic link
    to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made in
    the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot the
    machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001 & 002) and you will not
    see any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC,
    you will not see any Banana Bread there.

    Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and
    then look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in
    the Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    Bread in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    clearly demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is
    copied over to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully
    logs on.

    John


    On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    > Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >
    > http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >
    > Debbie
    >
    >
    >
    > "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    > news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>
    >> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    >> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
    >> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should not
    >> affect installed software.
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
    >>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
    >>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
    >>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
    >>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did
    >>> a year ago.
    >>>
    >>> Debbie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
    >>>>> I
    >>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
    >>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >>>>> Which
    >>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
    >>>>> now, it
    >>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    >>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    >>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.
    >>>>
    >>>> John
    >>>

    >
     
  11. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the ControlSet002, so
    what does that mean?


    Debbie


    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is the
    > one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    > used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >
    > The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >
    > ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for anything,
    > don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >
    >
    > Here is a little test that you can do:
    >
    > Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing, the
    > system just ignores them. Right click on the
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name the
    > new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    > remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at any
    > time after your test is done.
    >
    > Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you will
    > see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic link
    > to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made in
    > the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot the
    > machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001 & 002) and you will not see
    > any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC, you
    > will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >
    > Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and then
    > look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in the
    > Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana Bread
    > in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise clearly
    > demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied over
    > to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >
    > John
    >
    >
    > On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>
    >> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>
    >>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    >>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
    >>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
    >>> not
    >>> affect installed software.
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used
    >>>> it
    >>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
    >>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
    >>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
    >>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
    >>>> did
    >>>> a year ago.
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>> results.
    >>>>>> I
    >>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
    >>>>>> read
    >>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >>>>>> Which
    >>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
    >>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    >>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    >>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> John
    >>>>

    >>
     
  12. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Did you reboot the machine normally?

    John

    On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    > Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the ControlSet002, so
    > what does that mean?
    >
    >
    > Debbie
    >
    >
    > "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    > news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is the
    >> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    >> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>
    >> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>
    >> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for anything,
    >> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>
    >>
    >> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>
    >> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing, the
    >> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name the
    >> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at any
    >> time after your test is done.
    >>
    >> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you will
    >> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic link
    >> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made in
    >> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot the
    >> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will not see
    >> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC, you
    >> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>
    >> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and then
    >> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in the
    >> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana Bread
    >> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise clearly
    >> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied over
    >> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>
    >>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>
    >>> Debbie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>
    >>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    >>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
    >>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
    >>>> not
    >>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>
    >>>> John
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used
    >>>>> it
    >>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
    >>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install
    >>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
    >>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
    >>>>> did
    >>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
    >>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
    >>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
    >>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
    >>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
    >>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
    >>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>

    >
    >
     
  13. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    I rebooted by clicking restart. You want me to shut it down, then startup?
    Debbie


    http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >
    > John
    >
    > On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the ControlSet002,
    >> so
    >> what does that mean?
    >>
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is the
    >>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    >>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>
    >>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>
    >>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>> anything,
    >>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>
    >>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing,
    >>> the
    >>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name
    >>> the
    >>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at any
    >>> time after your test is done.
    >>>
    >>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you will
    >>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic link
    >>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made in
    >>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot the
    >>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will not
    >>> see
    >>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC, you
    >>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>
    >>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and
    >>> then
    >>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in the
    >>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>> Bread
    >>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>> clearly
    >>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied over
    >>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    >>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>> most
    >>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
    >>>>> not
    >>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>> used
    >>>>>> it
    >>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
    >>>>>> non
    >>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>> install
    >>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
    >>>>>> did
    >>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
    >>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
    >>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it
    >>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known
    >>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>
     
  14. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it down and
    rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I assuming something
    is wrong here?


    Debbie


    http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >
    > John
    >
    > On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the ControlSet002,
    >> so
    >> what does that mean?
    >>
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is the
    >>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    >>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>
    >>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>
    >>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>> anything,
    >>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>
    >>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing,
    >>> the
    >>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name
    >>> the
    >>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at any
    >>> time after your test is done.
    >>>
    >>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you will
    >>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic link
    >>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made in
    >>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot the
    >>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will not
    >>> see
    >>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC, you
    >>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>
    >>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and
    >>> then
    >>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in the
    >>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>> Bread
    >>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>> clearly
    >>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied over
    >>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    >>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>> most
    >>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
    >>>>> not
    >>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>> used
    >>>>>> it
    >>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
    >>>>>> non
    >>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>> install
    >>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
    >>>>>> did
    >>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
    >>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
    >>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it
    >>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known
    >>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>
     
  15. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Yes, if there was and is still Banana Bread in the control set that was
    used to boot Windows (003) it should have been copied over to the LKGC
    control set (002) when you rebooted. If it isn't copying over then the
    Windows installation is borked.

    You could check the permissions on ControlSet002 and make sure that the
    System account has full control on it and that the permissions inherit
    to the child objects. If the permissions look fine then the only thing
    that I can suggest is that you do an in-place upgrade (repair install)
    of the operating system or that you flatten and rebuild the box.

    John

    Debbie Graham wrote:
    > My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it down and
    > rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I assuming something
    > is wrong here?
    >
    >
    > Debbie
    >
    >
    > http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    > "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    > news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >> On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the ControlSet002,
    >>> so
    >>> what does that mean?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Debbie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is the
    >>>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    >>>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>>
    >>>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>>
    >>>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>>> anything,
    >>>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>>
    >>>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing,
    >>>> the
    >>>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name
    >>>> the
    >>>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at any
    >>>> time after your test is done.
    >>>>
    >>>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you will
    >>>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic link
    >>>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made in
    >>>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot the
    >>>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will not
    >>>> see
    >>>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC, you
    >>>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>>
    >>>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and
    >>>> then
    >>>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in the
    >>>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>>> Bread
    >>>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>>> clearly
    >>>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied over
    >>>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>>
    >>>> John
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
    >>>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>>> most
    >>>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
    >>>>>> not
    >>>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> John
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>>> used
    >>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
    >>>>>>> non
    >>>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I
    >>>>>>> did
    >>>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
    >>>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
    >>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it
    >>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
    >>>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known
    >>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> John
    >>>

    >
    >
     
  16. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    John I looked into those permissions and here's a scan, I think I have too
    many listed in there? There's 2 systems, ones saying what you said and
    another that says not inherited.

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//system.jpg

    Debbie


    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:%23b16XB7QLHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Yes, if there was and is still Banana Bread in the control set that was
    > used to boot Windows (003) it should have been copied over to the LKGC
    > control set (002) when you rebooted. If it isn't copying over then the
    > Windows installation is borked.
    >
    > You could check the permissions on ControlSet002 and make sure that the
    > System account has full control on it and that the permissions inherit to
    > the child objects. If the permissions look fine then the only thing that
    > I can suggest is that you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of the
    > operating system or that you flatten and rebuild the box.
    >
    > John
    >
    > Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it down
    >> and rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I assuming
    >> something is wrong here?
    >>
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >> http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    >> "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>> On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the
    >>>> ControlSet002, so
    >>>> what does that mean?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    >>>>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>>>> anything,
    >>>>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing,
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>>>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at
    >>>>> any
    >>>>> time after your test is done.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you
    >>>>> will
    >>>>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic
    >>>>> link
    >>>>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made
    >>>>> in
    >>>>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will not
    >>>>> see
    >>>>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC,
    >>>>> you
    >>>>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and
    >>>>> then
    >>>>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>>>> Bread
    >>>>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>>>> clearly
    >>>>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied
    >>>>> over
    >>>>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
    >>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
    >>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>>>> used
    >>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
    >>>>>>>> non
    >>>>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as
    >>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>> did
    >>>>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago.
    >>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
    >>>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it
    >>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known
    >>>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>

    >>
     
  17. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    We don't know which key you are reading the information from but the
    system is shown to have full control on the key and its subkeys so it's
    probably not a permission problem. I think that the kind of problems
    that you are having call for an in-place upgrade at the least.
    Personally, I would flatten the box.

    John

    On 8/24/2010 6:32 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    > John I looked into those permissions and here's a scan, I think I have too
    > many listed in there? There's 2 systems, ones saying what you said and
    > another that says not inherited.
    >
    > http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//system.jpg
    >
    > Debbie
    >
    >
    > "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    > news:%23b16XB7QLHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> Yes, if there was and is still Banana Bread in the control set that was
    >> used to boot Windows (003) it should have been copied over to the LKGC
    >> control set (002) when you rebooted. If it isn't copying over then the
    >> Windows installation is borked.
    >>
    >> You could check the permissions on ControlSet002 and make sure that the
    >> System account has full control on it and that the permissions inherit to
    >> the child objects. If the permissions look fine then the only thing that
    >> I can suggest is that you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of the
    >> operating system or that you flatten and rebuild the box.
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>> My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it down
    >>> and rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I assuming
    >>> something is wrong here?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Debbie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    >>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>> news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >>>>
    >>>> John
    >>>>
    >>>> On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the
    >>>>> ControlSet002, so
    >>>>> what does that mean?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that was
    >>>>>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>>>>> anything,
    >>>>>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt nothing,
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key. Name
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>>>>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at
    >>>>>> any
    >>>>>> time after your test is done.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you
    >>>>>> will
    >>>>>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic
    >>>>>> link
    >>>>>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made
    >>>>>> in
    >>>>>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will not
    >>>>>> see
    >>>>>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC,
    >>>>>> you
    >>>>>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally and
    >>>>>> then
    >>>>>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>>>>> Bread
    >>>>>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>>>>> clearly
    >>>>>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied
    >>>>>> over
    >>>>>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> John
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
    >>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run
    >>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
    >>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>>>>> used
    >>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is
    >>>>>>>>> non
    >>>>>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as
    >>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>> did
    >>>>>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
    >>>>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it
    >>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
    >>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
    >>>>>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known
    >>>>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the
    >>>>>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>

    >
     
  18. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    What does flatten the box mean?
    Debbie


    http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:uyaCqN%23QLHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > We don't know which key you are reading the information from but the
    > system is shown to have full control on the key and its subkeys so it's
    > probably not a permission problem. I think that the kind of problems that
    > you are having call for an in-place upgrade at the least. Personally, I
    > would flatten the box.
    >
    > John
    >
    > On 8/24/2010 6:32 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> John I looked into those permissions and here's a scan, I think I have
    >> too
    >> many listed in there? There's 2 systems, ones saying what you said and
    >> another that says not inherited.
    >>
    >> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//system.jpg
    >>
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:%23b16XB7QLHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>> Yes, if there was and is still Banana Bread in the control set that was
    >>> used to boot Windows (003) it should have been copied over to the LKGC
    >>> control set (002) when you rebooted. If it isn't copying over then the
    >>> Windows installation is borked.
    >>>
    >>> You could check the permissions on ControlSet002 and make sure that the
    >>> System account has full control on it and that the permissions inherit
    >>> to
    >>> the child objects. If the permissions look fine then the only thing
    >>> that
    >>> I can suggest is that you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of the
    >>> operating system or that you flatten and rebuild the box.
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it down
    >>>> and rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I assuming
    >>>> something is wrong here?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    >>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the
    >>>>>> ControlSet002, so
    >>>>>> what does that mean?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that
    >>>>>>> was
    >>>>>>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>>>>>> anything,
    >>>>>>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt
    >>>>>>> nothing,
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key.
    >>>>>>> Name
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>>>>>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at
    >>>>>>> any
    >>>>>>> time after your test is done.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you
    >>>>>>> will
    >>>>>>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic
    >>>>>>> link
    >>>>>>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made
    >>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will
    >>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>> see
    >>>>>>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC,
    >>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally
    >>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>> then
    >>>>>>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>>>>>> Bread
    >>>>>>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>>>>>> clearly
    >>>>>>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied
    >>>>>>> over
    >>>>>>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
    >>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
    >>>>>>>>> run
    >>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
    >>>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>>>>>> used
    >>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI)
    >>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>> non
    >>>>>>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now
    >>>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>> did
    >>>>>>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3
    >>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
    >>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
    >>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's
    >>>>>>>>>>> boot
    >>>>>>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last
    >>>>>>>>>>> Known
    >>>>>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
    >>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>
    >>>>

    >>
     
  19. John John - MVP

    John John - MVP Flightless Bird

    Rebuild from scratch, format and do a clean install. As in 'flatten'
    this old house and build a new one. Or rebuilding after a hurricane
    flattens the neighbourhood...

    John


    On 8/24/2010 8:34 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    > What does flatten the box mean?
    > Debbie
    >
    >
    > http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    > "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    > news:uyaCqN%23QLHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> We don't know which key you are reading the information from but the
    >> system is shown to have full control on the key and its subkeys so it's
    >> probably not a permission problem. I think that the kind of problems that
    >> you are having call for an in-place upgrade at the least. Personally, I
    >> would flatten the box.
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >> On 8/24/2010 6:32 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>> John I looked into those permissions and here's a scan, I think I have
    >>> too
    >>> many listed in there? There's 2 systems, ones saying what you said and
    >>> another that says not inherited.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//system.jpg
    >>>
    >>> Debbie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>> news:%23b16XB7QLHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Yes, if there was and is still Banana Bread in the control set that was
    >>>> used to boot Windows (003) it should have been copied over to the LKGC
    >>>> control set (002) when you rebooted. If it isn't copying over then the
    >>>> Windows installation is borked.
    >>>>
    >>>> You could check the permissions on ControlSet002 and make sure that the
    >>>> System account has full control on it and that the permissions inherit
    >>>> to
    >>>> the child objects. If the permissions look fine then the only thing
    >>>> that
    >>>> I can suggest is that you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of the
    >>>> operating system or that you flatten and rebuild the box.
    >>>>
    >>>> John
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>> My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it down
    >>>>> and rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I assuming
    >>>>> something is wrong here?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    >>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> John
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the
    >>>>>>> ControlSet002, so
    >>>>>>> what does that mean?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it is
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that
    >>>>>>>> was
    >>>>>>>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>>>>>>> anything,
    >>>>>>>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt
    >>>>>>>> nothing,
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key.
    >>>>>>>> Name
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you will
    >>>>>>>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete at
    >>>>>>>> any
    >>>>>>>> time after your test is done.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and you
    >>>>>>>> will
    >>>>>>>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a symbolic
    >>>>>>>> link
    >>>>>>>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes made
    >>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to boot
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you will
    >>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>> see
    >>>>>>>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the LKGC,
    >>>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally
    >>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>> then
    >>>>>>>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread in
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see Banana
    >>>>>>>> Bread
    >>>>>>>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>>>>>>> clearly
    >>>>>>>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is copied
    >>>>>>>> over
    >>>>>>>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs on.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
    >>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
    >>>>>>>>>> run
    >>>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but
    >>>>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
    >>>>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just
    >>>>>>>>>>> used
    >>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI)
    >>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>> non
    >>>>>>>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of
    >>>>>>>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now
    >>>>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>> did
    >>>>>>>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's
    >>>>>>>>>>>> boot
    >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Known
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>

    >
    >
     
  20. Debbie Graham

    Debbie Graham Flightless Bird

    oh well, I think I'll just the LKGF stay the way it is. I'll try not using
    it, I'll just keep backing up my hard drive.


    Debbie

    http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    "John John - MVP" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    news:eiV7Ig%23QLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Rebuild from scratch, format and do a clean install. As in 'flatten' this
    > old house and build a new one. Or rebuilding after a hurricane flattens
    > the neighbourhood...
    >
    > John
    >
    >
    > On 8/24/2010 8:34 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >> What does flatten the box mean?
    >> Debbie
    >>
    >>
    >> http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    >> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:uyaCqN%23QLHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>> We don't know which key you are reading the information from but the
    >>> system is shown to have full control on the key and its subkeys so it's
    >>> probably not a permission problem. I think that the kind of problems
    >>> that
    >>> you are having call for an in-place upgrade at the least. Personally, I
    >>> would flatten the box.
    >>>
    >>> John
    >>>
    >>> On 8/24/2010 6:32 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>> John I looked into those permissions and here's a scan, I think I have
    >>>> too
    >>>> many listed in there? There's 2 systems, ones saying what you said and
    >>>> another that says not inherited.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//system.jpg
    >>>>
    >>>> Debbie
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:%23b16XB7QLHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Yes, if there was and is still Banana Bread in the control set that
    >>>>> was
    >>>>> used to boot Windows (003) it should have been copied over to the LKGC
    >>>>> control set (002) when you rebooted. If it isn't copying over then
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> Windows installation is borked.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You could check the permissions on ControlSet002 and make sure that
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> System account has full control on it and that the permissions inherit
    >>>>> to
    >>>>> the child objects. If the permissions look fine then the only thing
    >>>>> that
    >>>>> I can suggest is that you do an in-place upgrade (repair install) of
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> operating system or that you flatten and rebuild the box.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> John
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>> My prior post I said I just restarted the pc, this time I shut it
    >>>>>> down
    >>>>>> and rebooted and still no Banana Bread in ControlSet002, so I
    >>>>>> assuming
    >>>>>> something is wrong here?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://debsfelinefine.110mb.com/FelineFine.htm
    >>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:-OuQRef3QLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>> Did you reboot the machine normally?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 8/24/2010 12:44 AM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Just tried your little test and it doesn't show up in the
    >>>>>>>> ControlSet002, so
    >>>>>>>> what does that mean?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:eRLCb%23xQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>> Well... ControlSet003 is the Default and Current Control Set, it
    >>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> one that is used to normally boot the computer, it is the one that
    >>>>>>>>> was
    >>>>>>>>> used to boot the machine and the one that is currently being used.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> The LKGC is booting using ControlSet002.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> ControlSet001 is a Failed Control Set, it is no longer used for
    >>>>>>>>> anything,
    >>>>>>>>> don't compare the LKGC set to this one.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Here is a little test that you can do:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Create a phony key in the CurrentControlSet. Phony keys hurt
    >>>>>>>>> nothing,
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> system just ignores them. Right click on the
    >>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet and select New->Key.
    >>>>>>>>> Name
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> new key Banana Bread, with a name so out of place like that you
    >>>>>>>>> will
    >>>>>>>>> remember that the key is a phony one that will be safe to delete
    >>>>>>>>> at
    >>>>>>>>> any
    >>>>>>>>> time after your test is done.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Now look in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003 key and
    >>>>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>>>> will
    >>>>>>>>> see the same Banana Bread key. The CurrentControlSet is a
    >>>>>>>>> symbolic
    >>>>>>>>> link
    >>>>>>>>> to the ControlSet003 that was used to boot the machine, changes
    >>>>>>>>> made
    >>>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>>> the CurrentControlSet are reflected in the Control Set used to
    >>>>>>>>> boot
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> machine. Look in the other Control Sets (001& 002) and you
    >>>>>>>>> will
    >>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>> see
    >>>>>>>>> any Banana Bread, ControlSet002 is the one used to boot to the
    >>>>>>>>> LKGC,
    >>>>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>>>> will not see any Banana Bread there.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Now, leave the phony key in place and reboot the machine normally
    >>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>> then
    >>>>>>>>> look at the Control Sets again. You will still see Banana Bread
    >>>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>> Current and in the 003 Control Sets but now you will also see
    >>>>>>>>> Banana
    >>>>>>>>> Bread
    >>>>>>>>> in the ControlSet002, the LKGC control set. This little exercise
    >>>>>>>>> clearly
    >>>>>>>>> demonstrates how the control set used to boot the machine is
    >>>>>>>>> copied
    >>>>>>>>> over
    >>>>>>>>> to the LastKnownGood control set after a user successfully logs
    >>>>>>>>> on.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 6:36 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> Okay here is what the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key says
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340/select.jpg
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:-ObRcaSvQLHA.2100@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>> What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you?
    >>>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>>> Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs
    >>>>>>>>>>> run
    >>>>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>>>> services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do,
    >>>>>>>>>>> but
    >>>>>>>>>>> most
    >>>>>>>>>>> don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
    >>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set
    >>>>>>>>>>> should
    >>>>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>>>> affect installed software.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and
    >>>>>>>>>>>> just
    >>>>>>>>>>>> used
    >>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>> again a few days ago and it's the same exact
    >>>>>>>>>>>> configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI)
    >>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>> non
    >>>>>>>>>>>> existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer
    >>>>>>>>>>>> install
    >>>>>>>>>>>> had to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs
    >>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>> mine.
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration
    >>>>>>>>>>>> now
    >>>>>>>>>>>> as
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>> did
    >>>>>>>>>>>> a year ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Debbie
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "John John - MVP"<audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ujVeQnlQLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have asked this question before but haven't had any
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> results.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> many?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> unless
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> boot
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Known
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> LKGC.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> John
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>

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