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Linux vs. RyanAire NIGHTMARE?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Bill Yanaire, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Bill Yanaire

    Bill Yanaire Flightless Bird

    My RyanAir Nightmare
    I often travel to Stockholm where RyanAir flies for around $30 US. My first
    flight on RyanAir was uneventful. Thanks for the savings! (or so I thought).
    RyanAir: 1 success, 0 failures
    Next time I bought RyanAir tickets, but then they couldn't find my
    reservation info when I showed up at Stansted airport. I spent about 8 hours
    at the airport, most of the time waiting in line at their complaint counter.
    The entire 8 hours I was there the complaint desk had a 1 hour wait, and the
    answer from RyanAir was always the same, "Sorry, can't help you" to every
    single person, regardless of who was at fault. I had never seen such a
    brazen display of company callousness. I was shocked, because I had become
    used to the FAA we have in the USA which protects our rights as an airplane
    passenger. Keep in mind that while Europe has the CAA, and while the CAA is
    dealing with many RyanAir complaints, RyanAir seems to be able to get away
    with quite a bit more than the FAA would allow. Eventually I managed to jump
    on a plane that was flying to Southern Sweden, and had quite an adventure
    trying to figure out how to get to Stockholm, but that's another story.
    RyanAir Sucks!
    RyanAir: 1 success, 1 failure

    Evidently RyanAir didn't like the fact that they had a continuous queue at
    their complaint counter, so they came up with a RyanAir solution, they
    closed it. In its place they instituted a pay per minute complaint phone
    number. If you called it, you would hear a recording that was exactly one
    minute long explaining that you were now paying 1 Euro per minute. Then it
    would put you on hold.

    The next year I decided to give it another try. RyanAir completely screwed
    up my flights again, and ruined part of my trip. RyanAir's feelings on the
    matter: "That's too bad"
    RyanAir Sucks!
    RyanAir: 1 success, 2 failures

    The year after I tried to find a different way to fly to Sweden but the
    options were either $30 on RyanAir or $300 on one of the major carriers
    (such as Lufthansa). I figured that it must have just been bad luck, and
    decided to save $270 and give them one last try. I was flying from Paris to
    Stockholm. I took the 1 hour bus ride which cost about $20. At the airport,
    they kept delaying the flight until they finally cancelled it "due to fog."
    I checked the schedule, and RyanAir still had undelayed planes leaving
    before and after ours with no problem. So a plane-full of people get in line
    and the answer is the same for all, we can put you on the Wednesday flight.
    This was a Sunday. I was supposed to be in Stockholm from Sunday until
    Thursday early morning, they've effectively destroyed the Stockholm portion
    of my flight, including going to see my friend in Stockholm who was the
    whole reason for the trip in the first place. No amount of begging would
    change their mind to let any of us fly earlier. Many people just threw away
    their tickets and went home, their weekend plans ruined. They also wouldn't
    reimburse us for the bus ride.

    So I took another $20 bus back to the West side of Paris and started to try
    to call my host (who lives on the East side) while taking the Metro. The
    Metro shut down while I was on it, leaving me stranded in the center of town
    near the Louvre, which is dead at night, no taxis to be seen. It was only by
    sheer luck that one of my friends happened to see my as she drove by, and I
    hitched a ride back to my host. I then spent all night (and lots of money on
    international phone calls) trying to find a way to get to Sweden. After a
    full night of this, I finally reach someone on RyanAir who tells me that he
    can squeeze me onto the (Monday) morning flight.

    So I once again take a $20 bus to the airport and wait. It's a little foggy
    out again, so I'm nervous that we won't take off, but eventually we do. And
    in relief I look around the plane and it is 2/3rds empty.

    So, more than half of those people who had been forced to wait until
    Wednesday, they could be sitting here with me, only a couple hundred dollars
    short and 14 hours late.
    RyanAir Sucks!
    RyanAir: 1 success, 3 failures

    The next time I went to Stockholm I paid $300 to fly on a major airline
    instead of buying the $30 ticket that was available on RyanAir. And I'm
    completely confident that I saved money on that deal. I will never fly
    RyanAir again, under any circumstances. Fortunately, these days there are
    options to get to Stockholm on cheap airlines that don't have RyanAir's mark
    of horrible service.

    I am not alone. The complaints filed against RyanAir are endless. RyanAir is
    an Irish company, and 90% of all European complaints received by the
    consumer authorities in Ireland are about RyanAir. They make money by
    cutting safety, and their travel terms violate many international flight
    rules. Important to note in their travel terms that they make no guarantee
    about departure time, so if your plane is forever delayed you have no
    recourse.
    RyanAir Sucks!
    RyanAir: some successes, ENDLESS failures

    "You paid nothing for your ticket, so you get nothing. That's the company
    philosophy. You paid nothing, we take you there, but hey, you paid nothing.
    so if we don't take you there, tough shit, you've only lost five euros."
    - RyanAir Pilot
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Contact Me
    If you have a cheap european airline alternative that I haven't listed
    below, please do contact me!
    If you would like to rant at me about my rant, please note that my feelings
    on RyanAir and this page is based on THREE issues:

    Their bad record (3/4 failures) for me personally
    The way they handled it
    The way they handle other people
    If you want to tell me that RyanAir has been great for you, then I don't
    want to hear it. Perhaps you've flown RyanAir dozens of times with no
    problem. Lucky you.
    If you want to tell me about other airlines or companies that suck, then I
    don't want to hear about it. Write your own webpage.

    If you want to tell me that I'm expecting too much for a cheap fare, then I
    don't want to hear about it. Please see the top of this page that states
    "there is a catch" and also "more than the FAA would allow." Consider this
    page a warning for us Yanks who are otherwise accustomed to the protections
    that the FAA affords us.

    If you want to tell me that I am somehow "wrong" - I probably don't want to
    hear it. This page is merely a listing of my personal experiences. Unless
    you were there, I'm not sure how you would be able to tell me that I am
    wrong. If you think I'm whining about nothing, then don't worry about it,
    because clearly my page won't effect anyone if you are correct.

    But if you still have something to say:
    Contact Dave

    Alternative Cheap Airlines
    Here are some alternative airlines to check that don't show up on the normal
    USA search sites such as orbitz/sidestep. If you have any additions for this
    list, please contact me. I often fly to/from Stockholm and Barcelona with my
    cat, so the notes in this list reflect that.
    Note that many of the cheap European airlines are now playing an overweight
    baggage game where they charge astronomical prices per kilo over 15/20
    kilograms, make sure to read the fine print. TODAY had an article talking
    about baggage fees on easyJet, RyanAir and British Airways.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    whichbudget.com WhichBudget is great! Pick a start and/or finish, and it
    lists cheap airlines that'll get you there.
    flycheapo.com More budget airlines
    skyscanner.net More budget airlines
    List of low cost airlines Courtesy Wikipedia
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    cheapflights.co.uk Worldwide from the UK
    DialAFlight +44/0 870.333.4488 Worldwide from the UK, and you can call
    them.
    RyanAir RYANAIR IS EVIL
    easyjet +44/0 870 6 000 000 EasyJet rocks!
    finnair US: +1.800.950.4768
    SWE: +46 5635.41780 Pets allowed!
    SAS Scandinavian US: +1.800.221.2350
    SWE: +0770-727-727 Pets allowed!
    Fly BMI +44 (0)1332.854854 Cheap flights from SF->Manchester?
    BMI Baby +44 (0)1332.854854? Smaller BMI flights
    Europe By Air +1.888.321.4737 $99 one way open Europe flights, valid 120
    days Main hubs: Brussels, Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich, London
    Virgin Express Barcelona->Stockholm. Pets allowed.
    GermanWings Pets allowed <8kg for 25Eu?
    Rumbo Flights Cheap flights from Spain. No english on site?
    British Airways Barcelona->Stockholm
    Fly Niki Zurich -> Stockholm
    FlyNordic Barcelona->Stockholm, pets okay.
    FlyBe Southhampton, UK flights
    icelandair +1-800-223-5500 SFO->Reykjavik cheap
    Vueling +34 902 33 39 33 Spain, Amsterdam, Portugal, France, Italy
    Fly Monarch Spain<->UK
    Transavia +3120 4060406 Main hubs in Amsterdam and Paris-Orly
    Norwegian Air +44 2080997254 Norway to most of Europe

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    ATUC (Air Transport Users Committee Part of the CAA (the European FAA)
    RyanAirCampaign Anti-RyanAir organization
    Crynair RyanAir's most direct competition :)

    "They pay money, they buy a ticket, and then RyanAir doesn't care. If you
    piss them off, there are plenty more that will take their place."
    - RyanAir Pilot
     
  2. Clogwog

    Clogwog Flightless Bird

    "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> schreef in bericht
    news:i72rdu$iks$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > My RyanAir Nightmare
    > I often travel to........................


    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
     
  3. Hadron

    Hadron Flightless Bird

    "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> writes:

    > My RyanAir Nightmare
    > I often travel to Stockholm where RyanAir flies for around $30 US. My first
    > flight on RyanAir was uneventful. Thanks for the savings! (or so I thought).
    > RyanAir: 1 success, 0 failures
    > Next time I bought RyanAir tickets, but then they couldn't find my
    > reservation info when I showed up at Stansted airport. I spent about 8 hours
    > at the airport, most of the time waiting in line at their complaint counter.
    > The entire 8 hours I was there the complaint desk had a 1 hour wait, and the
    > answer from RyanAir was always the same, "Sorry, can't help you" to every
    > single person, regardless of who was at fault. I had never seen such a
    > brazen display of company callousness. I was shocked, because I had become
    > used to the FAA we have in the USA which protects our rights as an airplane
    > passenger. Keep in mind that while Europe has the CAA, and while the CAA is
    > dealing with many RyanAir complaints, RyanAir seems to be able to get away
    > with quite a bit more than the FAA would allow. Eventually I managed to jump
    > on a plane that was flying to Southern Sweden, and had quite an adventure
    > trying to figure out how to get to Stockholm, but that's another story.
    > RyanAir Sucks!
    > RyanAir: 1 success, 1 failure


    Hint : the reason its cheap is because they dont hire hundreds of
    personnel to shepherd idiots. So idiots who NEED help because they
    forgot x,y or people who abuse the cheap flights weight economies should
    pay.

    Good on them.

    I also have NO problem with them charging people to use the toilet on
    board if that person has paid a measly 6 Euro for a return flight from
    London to Frankfurt for example.
     
  4. Bill Yanaire

    Bill Yanaire Flightless Bird

    Fu[k off!
    I really hate you all.
     
  5. voodoo

    voodoo Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:56:49 +0200, Hadron wrote:

    > "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> writes:
    >
    >> My RyanAir Nightmare
    >> I often travel to Stockholm where RyanAir flies for around $30 US. My
    >> first flight on RyanAir was uneventful. Thanks for the savings! (or so
    >> I thought). RyanAir: 1 success, 0 failures
    >> Next time I bought RyanAir tickets, but then they couldn't find my
    >> reservation info when I showed up at Stansted airport. I spent about 8
    >> hours at the airport, most of the time waiting in line at their
    >> complaint counter. The entire 8 hours I was there the complaint desk
    >> had a 1 hour wait, and the answer from RyanAir was always the same,
    >> "Sorry, can't help you" to every single person, regardless of who was
    >> at fault. I had never seen such a brazen display of company
    >> callousness. I was shocked, because I had become used to the FAA we
    >> have in the USA which protects our rights as an airplane passenger.
    >> Keep in mind that while Europe has the CAA, and while the CAA is
    >> dealing with many RyanAir complaints, RyanAir seems to be able to get
    >> away with quite a bit more than the FAA would allow. Eventually I
    >> managed to jump on a plane that was flying to Southern Sweden, and had
    >> quite an adventure trying to figure out how to get to Stockholm, but
    >> that's another story. RyanAir Sucks!
    >> RyanAir: 1 success, 1 failure

    >
    > Hint : the reason its cheap is because they dont hire hundreds of
    > personnel to shepherd idiots. So idiots who NEED help because they
    > forgot x,y or people who abuse the cheap flights weight economies should
    > pay.


    how does this fit in with ryanair losing his reservation? please tell me
    what i missed.

    > Good on them.
    >
    > I also have NO problem with them charging people to use the toilet on
    > board if that person has paid a measly 6 Euro for a return flight from
    > London to Frankfurt for example.


    would your view be different if they take the measly 6 euro and lose the
    reservation?
     
  6. Moshe Goldfarb

    Moshe Goldfarb Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:07:22 +0200, "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> wrote:

    >"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> schreef in bericht
    >news:i72rdu$iks$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> My RyanAir Nightmare
    >> I often travel to........................

    >
    >ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


    RyanAir?

    Is that like a gay airline or something?
    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Linux...Disappointing users for 19 years.
    Linux::It's free when your time has no value.
    See Liarmutt in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM
     
  7. Clogwog

    Clogwog Flightless Bird

    "Moshe Goldfarb" <moshe_golfarb@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
    news:q0if96tl2r2g01tvmeumil0bp81jmuo8n1@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:07:22 +0200, "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> wrote:
    >
    >>"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> schreef in bericht
    >>news:i72rdu$iks$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> My RyanAir Nightmare
    >>> I often travel to........................

    >>
    >>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    >
    > RyanAir?
    >
    > Is that like a gay airline or something?


    Maybe Marti didn't doze off while reading?
     

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