Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux& Windows)

[karthikbalaguru]

Hi,
I need Windows for certain applications
and Linux for certain other applications.
But, the computer currently has only
Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
USB stick !!

I am following the below steps for
Windows XP from USB stick -
http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
(Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)

But,
I understand that by the above method
we can have the Windows XP booted
up from the USB Stick and Windows
XP will be using entire RAM

But, i would like to have Linux also !
Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
simulataneously so that i can switch
between Linux & Windows ?

Any ideas ?

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

 

[Rich Webb]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:23:16 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
<karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>I need Windows for certain applications
>and Linux for certain other applications.
[snippety snip]
>Any ideas ?

Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
surprised at some of the apps that it does support.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[Henning]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

"karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:68d792d9-bc5c-4356-b8d9-713b8f2e933b@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> I need Windows for certain applications
> and Linux for certain other applications.
> But, the computer currently has only
> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
> USB stick !!
>
> I am following the below steps for
> Windows XP from USB stick -
> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>
> But,
> I understand that by the above method
> we can have the Windows XP booted
> up from the USB Stick and Windows
> XP will be using entire RAM
>
> But, i would like to have Linux also !
> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
> simulataneously so that i can switch
> between Linux & Windows ?
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

Install Xp in VirtualBox?

/Henning

 

[Spam@ControlQ.com]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence ofLinux & Windows)

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Henning wrote:
> "karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:68d792d9-bc5c-4356-b8d9-713b8f2e933b@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi,
>> I need Windows for certain applications
>> and Linux for certain other applications.
>> But, the computer currently has only
>> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
>> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
>> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
>> USB stick !!
>>
>> I am following the below steps for
>> Windows XP from USB stick -
>> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
>> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>>
>> But,
>> I understand that by the above method
>> we can have the Windows XP booted
>> up from the USB Stick and Windows
>> XP will be using entire RAM
>>
>> But, i would like to have Linux also !
>> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
>> simulataneously so that i can switch
>> between Linux & Windows ?
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>>
>> Thx in advans,
>> Karthik Balaguru
>
> Install Xp in VirtualBox?
>
> /Henning
>

Bochs, Virtualbox, QEMU, VMWare ... all can run
Windows in emulation under Linux ... Wine is also
a solution.

Cheers,
Rob Sciuk

 

[Tim Wescott]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence ofLinux & Windows)

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:51:24 +0100, Henning wrote:

> "karthikbalaguru" <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:68d792d9-bc5c-4356-
b8d9-713b8f2e933b@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi,
>> I need Windows for certain applications and Linux for certain other
>> applications. But, the computer currently has only
>> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it. I do not wish to disturb the
>> Linux installed on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via USB stick !!
>>
>>
>> I am following the below steps for
>> Windows XP from USB stick -
>> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
>> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>>
>> But,
>> I understand that by the above method we can have the Windows XP booted
>> up from the USB Stick and Windows
>> XP will be using entire RAM
>>
>> But, i would like to have Linux also ! Is it possible to have Linux and
>> Windows simulataneously so that i can switch
>> between Linux & Windows ?
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>>
>> Thx in advans,
>> Karthik Balaguru
>
> Install Xp in VirtualBox?
>
> /Henning

That is working very well for me. Granted, it's been only two months,
but all signs are good.

--
www.wescottdesign.com

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

karthikbalaguru wrote:
> Hi,
> I need Windows for certain applications
> and Linux for certain other applications.
> But, the computer currently has only
> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
> USB stick !!
>
> I am following the below steps for
> Windows XP from USB stick -
> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>
> But,
> I understand that by the above method
> we can have the Windows XP booted
> up from the USB Stick and Windows
> XP will be using entire RAM
>
> But, i would like to have Linux also !
> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
> simulataneously so that i can switch
> between Linux & Windows ?
>
> Any ideas ?

Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existenceof Linux & Windows)

Rich Webb wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:23:16 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
> <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I need Windows for certain applications
>> and Linux for certain other applications.
> [snippety snip]
>> Any ideas ?
>
> Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
> didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
> surprised at some of the apps that it does support.
>
wine works for about 1% of apps, badly

VMware or virtual box is a lot better.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existenceof Linux & Windows)

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> karthikbalaguru wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I need Windows for certain applications
>> and Linux for certain other applications.
>> But, the computer currently has only
>> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
>> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
>> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
>> USB stick !!
>>
>> I am following the below steps for
>> Windows XP from USB stick -
>> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
>> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>>
>> But,
>> I understand that by the above method
>> we can have the Windows XP booted
>> up from the USB Stick and Windows
>> XP will be using entire RAM
>>
>> But, i would like to have Linux also !
>> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
>> simulataneously so that i can switch
>> between Linux & Windows ?
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>
> Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.
>
So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

karthikbalaguru wrote:
> I need Windows for certain applications
> and Linux for certain other applications.
> But, the computer currently has only
> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
> USB stick !!
>
> I am following the below steps for
> Windows XP from USB stick -
> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>
> But,
> I understand that by the above method
> we can have the Windows XP booted
> up from the USB Stick and Windows
> XP will be using entire RAM
>
> But, i would like to have Linux also !
> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
> simulataneously so that i can switch
> between Linux & Windows ?
>
> Any ideas ?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.

Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware Workstation
will cost you.

Either work fantastically. Either is better than dual-booting/booting from
USB/booting from CD or DVD/using something like WINE, IMHO.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existenceof Linux & Windows)

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> karthikbalaguru wrote:
>> I need Windows for certain applications
>> and Linux for certain other applications.
>> But, the computer currently has only
>> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
>> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
>> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
>> USB stick !!
>>
>> I am following the below steps for
>> Windows XP from USB stick -
>> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
>> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>>
>> But,
>> I understand that by the above method
>> we can have the Windows XP booted
>> up from the USB Stick and Windows
>> XP will be using entire RAM
>>
>> But, i would like to have Linux also !
>> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
>> simulataneously so that i can switch
>> between Linux & Windows ?
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.
>
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.
>
> Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware Workstation
> will cost you.
>

Yes.

> Either work fantastically. Either is better than dual-booting/booting from
> USB/booting from CD or DVD/using something like WINE, IMHO.
>

Fantastic? No. screen and cursors is a tad slow, and networking is a
fair bit slower than a native windows.

But its good enough for what I do. CAD work mainly.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

karthikbalaguru wrote:
> I need Windows for certain applications
> and Linux for certain other applications.
> But, the computer currently has only
> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
> USB stick !!
>
> I am following the below steps for
> Windows XP from USB stick -
> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>
> But,
> I understand that by the above method
> we can have the Windows XP booted
> up from the USB Stick and Windows
> XP will be using entire RAM
>
> But, i would like to have Linux also !
> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
> simulataneously so that i can switch
> between Linux & Windows ?
>
> Any ideas ?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware
> Workstation will cost you.
>
> Either work fantastically. Either is better than
> dual-booting/booting from USB/booting from CD or DVD/using
> something like WINE, IMHO.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Fantastic? No. screen and cursors is a tad slow, and networking is a
> fair bit slower than a native windows.
>
> But its good enough for what I do. CAD work mainly.

Well - on my quad core processor system with 8GB memory and 64-bit base OS -
it works great with Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 virtual
machines... Guess it is all relative.

If the screen and cursors are slow? Sounds like a driver issue (guest
additions for virtualbox and vmware tools for vmware usually help those
things) or lack of actual physical resources (memory/processor.)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[Dombo]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existenceof Linux & Windows)

Shenan Stanley schreef:
> karthikbalaguru wrote:
>> I need Windows for certain applications
>> and Linux for certain other applications.
>> But, the computer currently has only
>> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
>> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
>> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
>> USB stick !!
>>
>> I am following the below steps for
>> Windows XP from USB stick -
>> http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
>> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>>
>> But,
>> I understand that by the above method
>> we can have the Windows XP booted
>> up from the USB Stick and Windows
>> XP will be using entire RAM
>>
>> But, i would like to have Linux also !
>> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
>> simulataneously so that i can switch
>> between Linux & Windows ?
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Use a virtual machine instead. VirtualBox is free.
>
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.
>
> Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free. VMware Workstation
> will cost you.
>
> Either work fantastically.

Provided you have plenty of RAM memory (and a Windows XP license). If
you have, a virtual machine is definitely the way to go.

 

[Kevin John Panzke]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence ofLinux & Windows)

TRY DUAL BOOTING BETWEEN WINDOWS XP AND UBUNTU 9.10 USING WUBI.EXE!

On Jan 4, 2:23 pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I need Windows for certain applications
> and Linux for certain other applications.
> But, the computer currently has only
> Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
> I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
> on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
> USB stick !!
>
> I am following the below steps for
> Windows XP from USB stick -http/www.winusb.de/index_en.html
> (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>
> But,
> I understand that by the above method
> we can have the Windows XP booted
> up from the USB Stick and Windows
> XP will be using entire RAM
>
> But, i would like to have Linux also !
> Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
> simulataneously so that i can switch
> between Linux & Windows ?
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

 

[Rich Webb]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:07:46 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Rich Webb wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:23:16 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
>> <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I need Windows for certain applications
>>> and Linux for certain other applications.
>> [snippety snip]
>>> Any ideas ?
>>
>> Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
>> didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
>> surprised at some of the apps that it does support.
>>
>wine works for about 1% of apps, badly
>
>VMware or virtual box is a lot better.

Probably true. But I'd like to see a citation for that 1%, badly,
assertion.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[Henning]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

"Rich Webb" <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> skrev i meddelandet
news:s5a5k5lmg7r8fu83p36juohh3r803s41ok@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:07:46 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Rich Webb wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:23:16 -0800 (PST), karthikbalaguru
>>> <karthikbalaguru79@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I need Windows for certain applications
>>>> and Linux for certain other applications.
>>> [snippety snip]
>>>> Any ideas ?
>>>
>>> Wine. Or at least, a mention that the current Wine release was tried and
>>> didn't work for the particular app(s). It's not 100% but I've been
>>> surprised at some of the apps that it does support.
>>>
>>wine works for about 1% of apps, badly
>>
>>VMware or virtual box is a lot better.
>
> Probably true. But I'd like to see a citation for that 1%, badly,
> assertion.
>
> --
> Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

Try running the dotnet flamework.

/Henning

 

[Dave Nadler]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence ofLinux & Windows)

On Jan 4, 5:19 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> karthikbalaguru wrote:
> > I need Windows for certain applications
> > and Linux for certain other applications.
> > But, the computer currently has only
> > Linux(Ubuntu Destop version - 9.10) on it.
> > I do not wish to disturb the Linux installed
> > on it. So, i am trying to have Windows via
> > USB stick !!
>
> > I am following the below steps for
> > Windows XP from USB stick -
> >http://www.winusb.de/index_en.html
> > (Windows XP is booted from USB Stick)
>
> > But,
> > I understand that by the above method
> > we can have the Windows XP booted
> > up from the USB Stick and Windows
> > XP will be using entire RAM
>
> > But, i would like to have Linux also !
> > Is it possible to have Linux and Windows
> > simulataneously so that i can switch
> > between Linux & Windows ?
>
> > Any ideas ?
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Use a virtual machine instead.  VirtualBox is free.
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > So is Vmware. Pretty much rock solid for me here. used daily.
>
> Clarification: VMware Player and VMware Server are free.  VMware Workstation
> will cost you.
>
> Either work fantastically.  Either is better than dual-booting/booting from
> USB/booting from CD or DVD/using something like WINE, IMHO.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
>      MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp/www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
machine ?

Thanks in advance,
Best Regards, Dave

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

Dave Nadler wrote:
> Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
> machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
> machine ?

VMware has a converter (p2v, etc) that does a good job.
http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/get.html

You can also utilize your favorite imaging utility to do it (I've used
several in the past to make a drive image and apply it to a virtual machine
drive.)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[David W. Hodgins]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence ofLinux & Windows)

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:18:07 -0500, Dave Nadler <drn@nadler.com> wrote:

> Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
> machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
> machine ?

I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required. You
cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated by the
running xp system.

If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and what
hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be found.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

--
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(nomail.afraid.org has been set up specifically for
use in usenet. Feel free to use it yourself.)

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence of Linux & Windows)

David W. Hodgins wrote:
> I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required. You
> cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated
> by the running xp system.
>
> If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and
> what hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be
> found.

VMware converter can do it and if you have the right setup - remotely.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[Dave Nadler]

Re: Linux along with Windows booted from USB Stick (Co-existence ofLinux & Windows)

On Jan 5, 3:56 pm, "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:18:07 -0500, Dave Nadler <d...@nadler.com> wrote:
> > Can any of you guys recommend a utility to snapshot an existing XP
> > machine into a VM image, where the utility is run on the existing XP
> > machine ?
>
> I doubt that can be done, as a full copy of the drive is required.  You
> cannot make a useful copy of the drive while it's being updated by the
> running xp system.
>
> If you provide more info on what you are trying to accomplish, and what
> hardware you have available, perhaps another solution can be found.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
> --
> Change nomail.afraid.org to ody.ca to reply by email.
> (nomail.afraid.org has been set up specifically for
> use in usenet. Feel free to use it yourself.)

There are a number of utilities that can do this.
I was hoping for recommendations. I have Acronis
(which can do this) but it wants a license for each
machine. Other utilities don't seem to be reliable...
I'm going to try

Best Regards, Dave

a license for each machine