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Licensing questions

A

~~Alan~~

Flightless Bird
My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to another
PC?

thanks,
~alan
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
On 7/9/2010 5:31 PM, ~~Alan~~ wrote:
> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
> taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
> Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
> Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
> What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to
> another PC?
>
> thanks,
> ~alan

No, you lose it. Why, pray tell, does the school require Pro?

--
Alias
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 09/07/2010 16:36, Alias wrote:
> On 7/9/2010 5:31 PM, ~~Alan~~ wrote:
>> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
>> taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
>> Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
>> Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
>> What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to
>> another PC?
>>
>> thanks,
>> ~alan
>
> No, you lose it. Why, pray tell, does the school require Pro?
>

Probably has a domain server. Home editions can't join a Domain Server.
(They can use network resources, but can't join the domain)

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G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 09/07/2010 16:31, ~~Alan~~ wrote:
> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
> taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
> Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
> Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
> What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to
> another PC?
>

No. The Licence is OEM and cannot be transferred to any other machine...


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R

R. C. White

Flightless Bird
Hi, Alan.

If the laptop was bought with Win7 pre-installed, then that copy of Windows
is bound forever to that hardware. She could use an Upgrade version of Win7
Pro, which would be cheaper than "full retail", because it would use the
existing Win7 installation to qualify for the upgrade price. But the
student price is probably significantly less than even the retail upgrade
price, so she can buy that and use it to Upgrade her Home Premium. Or
"clean install" the student Pro and keep the OEM license on standby, "just
in case". (She could even clean install Pro into a second partition and
dual-boot them - but there's probably not much point in that unless she's a
Computer Science major.)

I'm no expert on licensing issues, but that is my understanding.

RC
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San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
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"~~Alan~~" wrote in message news:i17fbu$jh7$1@speranza.aioe.org...

My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to another
PC?

thanks,
~alan
 
A

~~Alan~~

Flightless Bird
"~~Alan~~" <a.shepro-NoSpam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i17fbu$jh7$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
> taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
> Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
> Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
> What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to
> another PC?
>
> thanks,
> ~alan

Actually, her PC came with XP pre-installed and I bought/purchased from a
big box retailer, before I saw the school's suggestion, Home Premium
upgrade.

and BTW, To Alias: My original post says the schools suggests Professional,
not requires it.

So now that this is all cleared up, what becomes of the Home Premium
license?

thanks again,
~alan
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 09/07/2010 17:23, ~~Alan~~ wrote:

>
> Actually, her PC came with XP pre-installed and I bought/purchased from
> a big box retailer, before I saw the school's suggestion, Home Premium
> upgrade.
>

> So now that this is all cleared up, what becomes of the Home Premium
> license?
>

So presumably it's a RETAIL license, so you can use it on another
machine BUT you will have to supply a qualifying OS for the upgrade...


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Say No to OOXML http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8
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to email me remove the obvious!
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
~~Alan~~ wrote:
> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will
> be taking the system to school with her and her school suggests
> Windows 7 Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial
> student discount for Professional and I would like to buy the license
> and upgrade her system. What then becomes of the Home Premium
> license? Can I use/xfer it to another PC?

Technically, no. Qualifying for the upgrade means transferring the
license for the qualifying software. But if you have a retail copy of
Home Premium, I doubt that you have any trouble getting it authorized on
a different computer. On the other hand, the student prices are so
ridiculously low, why not just buy the independent install version
instead of the upgrade? Then you won't have to worry about it.
--
Crash

"Something there is that doesn't love a wall, that wants it down."
~ Robert Frost ~
 
R

relic

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i17ihu$v1l$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 09/07/2010 17:23, ~~Alan~~ wrote:
>
>>
>> Actually, her PC came with XP pre-installed and I bought/purchased from
>> a big box retailer, before I saw the school's suggestion, Home Premium
>> upgrade.
>>
>
>> So now that this is all cleared up, what becomes of the Home Premium
>> license?
>>
>
> So presumably it's a RETAIL license, so you can use it on another machine
> BUT you will have to supply a qualifying OS for the upgrade...

Just install the 'Upgrade' twice. No Qualifying OS is needed.
 
R

relic

Flightless Bird
"~~Alan~~" <a.shepro-NoSpam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i17icj$olc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
> So now that this is all cleared up, what becomes of the Home Premium
> license?

It's available to be installed on a different machine. It can upgrade Vista,
but XP will be a quasi clean installation (an Old Windows folder will have
the data).

"Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media:"
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
On 09/07/2010 17:55, relic wrote:
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:i17ihu$v1l$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 09/07/2010 17:23, ~~Alan~~ wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Actually, her PC came with XP pre-installed and I bought/purchased from
>>> a big box retailer, before I saw the school's suggestion, Home Premium
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>
>>> So now that this is all cleared up, what becomes of the Home Premium
>>> license?
>>>
>>
>> So presumably it's a RETAIL license, so you can use it on another
>> machine BUT you will have to supply a qualifying OS for the upgrade...
>
> Just install the 'Upgrade' twice. No Qualifying OS is needed.

Which is technically in breach of the EULA because the "qualifying
product" - XP - was an OEM version on the other machine and so cannot be
used as the "qualifying" version on the new machine. I leave it up to
the OP's conscience...

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A

~~Alan~~

Flightless Bird
"Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:SgIZn.8652$wm1.4749@newsfe01.iad...
> ~~Alan~~ wrote:
>> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will
>> be taking the system to school with her and her school suggests
>> Windows 7 Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial
>> student discount for Professional and I would like to buy the license
>> and upgrade her system. What then becomes of the Home Premium
>> license? Can I use/xfer it to another PC?
>
> Technically, no. Qualifying for the upgrade means transferring the
> license for the qualifying software. But if you have a retail copy of
> Home Premium, I doubt that you have any trouble getting it authorized on
> a different computer. On the other hand, the student prices are so
> ridiculously low, why not just buy the independent install version
> instead of the upgrade? Then you won't have to worry about it.
> --
> Crash

I do want to buy the student version of W7Pro but use the key to upgrade the
home premium license rather than reinstall and reconfigure Windows (I can
choose properties from the control panel and upgrade the license from
there.) After that, I want to "recycle" the Home Premium key on a different
PC.

If I want to rebuild my kid's PC, I suppose I can reinstall W7 Pro with the
software that I purchase from the school and reuse (as a reinstall/rebuild)
the W7Pro key.

~alan
>
> "Something there is that doesn't love a wall, that wants it down."
> ~ Robert Frost ~
 
K

Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:31:37 -0400, "~~Alan~~"
<a.shepro-NoSpam@gmail.com> wrote:

> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
> taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
> Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount for
> Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her system.
> What then becomes of the Home Premium license? Can I use/xfer it to another
> PC?



No.

When do you an upgrade, the copy of Windows you upgraded from becomes
bound to the upgraded version. You end up with one license, not two.

That's the reason an Upgrade copy costs less than a Full copy.

If what the school offers is a Full version, I would do a clean
installation with it, and you can then transfer the Home Premium
license to another computer.
 
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Dave

Flightless Bird
"~~Alan~~" <a.shepro-NoSpam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i17tkr$9q7$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:SgIZn.8652$wm1.4749@newsfe01.iad...
>> ~~Alan~~ wrote:
>>> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will
>>> be taking the system to school with her and her school suggests
>>> Windows 7 Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial
>>> student discount for Professional and I would like to buy the license
>>> and upgrade her system. What then becomes of the Home Premium
>>> license? Can I use/xfer it to another PC?
>>
>> Technically, no. Qualifying for the upgrade means transferring the
>> license for the qualifying software. But if you have a retail copy of
>> Home Premium, I doubt that you have any trouble getting it authorized on
>> a different computer. On the other hand, the student prices are so
>> ridiculously low, why not just buy the independent install version
>> instead of the upgrade? Then you won't have to worry about it.
>> --
>> Crash
>
> I do want to buy the student version of W7Pro but use the key to upgrade
> the home premium license rather than reinstall and reconfigure Windows
> (I can choose properties from the control panel and upgrade the license
> from there.) After that, I want to "recycle" the Home Premium key on a
> different PC.
>
> If I want to rebuild my kid's PC, I suppose I can reinstall W7 Pro with
> the software that I purchase from the school and reuse (as a
> reinstall/rebuild) the W7Pro key.
>
> ~alan
>>
>> "Something there is that doesn't love a wall, that wants it down."
>> ~ Robert Frost ~
>

Alan,
Check out this site, it is Microsoft's outlet for academic students. These
are full-blown editions, not student editions and are cheaper than student.
There are some requirements to prove you are a student and limits on how
many copies you can buy. Since I've gone back to school I've bought Office
2007 Professional, Windows 7 Professional 64 Upgrade and just bought Office
2010 Professional. Prices you see are for download and you can burn them to
CD or DVD or if you want you can get an official disk for an extra $15
(IIRC). I chose the official disk option and the packaging does not look
like the picture, but is still an official MS product and can be resold if
you later don't need it. I contacted MS before I bought Office 2010 and they
said it was ok to sell Office 2007. (This is where purchase limits come into
play so you can't use this as a money-maker.)
http://www.microsoft.com/student/office/en-us/default.aspx
HTH,
Dave
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Flightless Bird
~~Alan~~ wrote:
> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will be
> taking the system to school with her and her school suggests Windows 7
> Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial student discount
> for Professional and I would like to buy the license and upgrade her
> system. What then becomes of the Home Premium license?


When one uses an Upgrade license, the older license that's used as a
qualifying product for the Upgrade license cannot legitimately be used
anywhere else, as it becomes subsumed by, and an inseparable part of,
the upgrade.


> Can I use/xfer
> it to another PC?
>

Not legitimately. Further, if the laptop's Windows 7 HP license is
an OEM (pre-installed at the factory) license, you can't use it anywhere
else, anyway. An OEM license must be sold with a piece of hardware
(normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC) and is
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which it's installed. An OEM
license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer
under _any_ circumstances.

Additionally, if the OEM DVD was designed by a specific
manufacturer, such as eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most
likely be "BIOS-locked" to install only on the same make/model computer
for which it was designed, as an additional anti-piracy feature.



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xfile

Flightless Bird
Technically speaking, Ken Blake's suggestion is the best for your situation
since you purchased an upgraded version (and thus can be transferred to
another system with the qualifying OS ((XP in your case)) plus it is being
removed from the first system). *If* I remember correctly, student versions
are FULL versions not upgraded versions.

As to whether you have to do the technical work for removing the first OS
and do a clean install again, myself won't do it as long as I own two
legitimate licenses for two systems.

"~~Alan~~" <a.shepro-NoSpam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i17tkr$9q7$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:SgIZn.8652$wm1.4749@newsfe01.iad...
>> ~~Alan~~ wrote:
>>> My daughter's laptop has Windows 7 Home premium installed. She will
>>> be taking the system to school with her and her school suggests
>>> Windows 7 Professionial. Her school is offering a substantial
>>> student discount for Professional and I would like to buy the license
>>> and upgrade her system. What then becomes of the Home Premium
>>> license? Can I use/xfer it to another PC?
>>
>> Technically, no. Qualifying for the upgrade means transferring the
>> license for the qualifying software. But if you have a retail copy of
>> Home Premium, I doubt that you have any trouble getting it authorized on
>> a different computer. On the other hand, the student prices are so
>> ridiculously low, why not just buy the independent install version
>> instead of the upgrade? Then you won't have to worry about it.
>> --
>> Crash
>
> I do want to buy the student version of W7Pro but use the key to upgrade
> the home premium license rather than reinstall and reconfigure Windows
> (I can choose properties from the control panel and upgrade the license
> from there.) After that, I want to "recycle" the Home Premium key on a
> different PC.
>
> If I want to rebuild my kid's PC, I suppose I can reinstall W7 Pro with
> the software that I purchase from the school and reuse (as a
> reinstall/rebuild) the W7Pro key.
>
> ~alan
>>
>> "Something there is that doesn't love a wall, that wants it down."
>> ~ Robert Frost ~
>
 
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