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Laptop, charging battery

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Balzer, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. Balzer

    Balzer Flightless Bird

    When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely charge the
    battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night while the battery
    be fully charged?
    I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's strange,
    as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure that the battery is
    OK?
     
  2. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Balzer wrote:
    > When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely
    > charge the battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night
    > while the battery be fully charged?
    > I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's
    > strange, as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure
    > that the battery is OK?


    Your assumptions are all flawed. ;-)

    There is no specific way the battery should have been when you got the
    laptop (installed or not.) Depends on where you got it, what brand it is,
    whether or not anyone else touched it before you (maybe the store, etc.)

    The whole fully charged thing, etc does not matter like it did with older
    battery types (assuming this is actually a new laptop and not just 'new to
    you'.)

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  3. Balzer

    Balzer Flightless Bird

    "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eackmlaqKHA.4284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Balzer wrote:
    >> When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely
    >> charge the battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night
    >> while the battery be fully charged?
    >> I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's
    >> strange, as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure
    >> that the battery is OK?

    >
    > Your assumptions are all flawed. ;-)
    >
    > There is no specific way the battery should have been when you got the
    > laptop (installed or not.) Depends on where you got it, what brand it is,
    > whether or not anyone else touched it before you (maybe the store, etc.)
    >
    > The whole fully charged thing, etc does not matter like it did with older
    > battery types (assuming this is actually a new laptop and not just 'new to
    > you'.)
    >
    > --
    > Shenan Stanley
    > MS-MVP
    > --
    > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    -------------------

    As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed separately. How
    to charge battery first time?
     
  4. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Balzer wrote:
    > As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed
    > separately. How to charge battery first time?


    Depends on many things (how it is packed, where you got it, what was done
    with it before you got it, etc.)

    As for charging it - plug the laptop into power using its cabling and use or
    don't use it while it charges - there is no wrong answer.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  5. Balzer

    Balzer Flightless Bird

    "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eDbPdzaqKHA.1800@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Balzer wrote:
    >> As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed
    >> separately. How to charge battery first time?

    >
    > Depends on many things (how it is packed, where you got it, what was done
    > with it before you got it, etc.)
    >
    > As for charging it - plug the laptop into power using its cabling and use
    > or don't use it while it charges - there is no wrong answer.
    >
    > --
    > Shenan Stanley
    > MS-MVP
    > --
    > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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    New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep the AC
    adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has fully charged?

    AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored (turned
    off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks. Mine laptop
    (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two months or so, maybe
    more..
     
  6. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Balzer wrote:
    > New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep
    > the AC adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has
    > fully charged?
    > AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored
    > (turned off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks.
    > Mine laptop (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two
    > months or so, maybe more..


    It doesn't matter if the battery is fully charged before the first use.

    The removal of any chemical battery for storage is common sense. It may/may
    not ever be a problem, but it is wise to do.

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  7. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    Balzer wrote:

    >
    > "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:eackmlaqKHA.4284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >> Balzer wrote:
    >>
    >>> When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely
    >>> charge the battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night
    >>> while the battery be fully charged?
    >>> I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's
    >>> strange, as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure
    >>> that the battery is OK?

    >>
    >>
    >> Your assumptions are all flawed. ;-)
    >>
    >> There is no specific way the battery should have been when you got the
    >> laptop (installed or not.) Depends on where you got it, what brand it
    >> is, whether or not anyone else touched it before you (maybe the store,
    >> etc.)
    >>
    >> The whole fully charged thing, etc does not matter like it did with
    >> older battery types (assuming this is actually a new laptop and not
    >> just 'new to you'.)
    >>
    >> --
    >> Shenan Stanley
    >> MS-MVP
    >> --
    >> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    >
    > -------------------
    >
    > As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed separately.
    > How to charge battery first time?


    Not so, just plug in the adapter. Both ends. ;-)
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    Shenan Stanley wrote:
    > Balzer wrote:
    >> New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep
    >> the AC adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has
    >> fully charged?
    >> AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored
    >> (turned off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks.
    >> Mine laptop (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two
    >> months or so, maybe more..

    >
    > It doesn't matter if the battery is fully charged before the first use.
    >
    > The removal of any chemical battery for storage is common sense. It may/may
    > not ever be a problem, but it is wise to do.
    >


    There is an article here, on the charging characteristics of
    the batteries.

    "Charging lithium-ion batteries"
    http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm

    "Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based
    batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge.
    Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first
    time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."

    The charge state when the battery leaves the factory, is selected
    for best shelf life. This article compares the shelf life at a couple
    of charge states. The battery is shipped with less than a 100% charge
    on purpose.

    http://www.batteryuniversity.com/print-partone-19.htm

    Since the battery is going to wear out in a couple years anyway,
    might as well just use it and enjoy it.

    If the battery terminal voltage becomes too low, the charger may refuse to
    charge it. And that is for safety reasons.

    HTH,
    Paul
     
  9. Balzer

    Balzer Flightless Bird

    "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
    news:hksa9i$4so$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    > Shenan Stanley wrote:
    > > Balzer wrote:
    > >> New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep
    > >> the AC adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has
    > >> fully charged?
    > >> AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored
    > >> (turned off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks.
    > >> Mine laptop (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two
    > >> months or so, maybe more..

    > >
    > > It doesn't matter if the battery is fully charged before the first use.
    > >
    > > The removal of any chemical battery for storage is common sense. It

    may/may
    > > not ever be a problem, but it is wise to do.
    > >

    >
    > There is an article here, on the charging characteristics of
    > the batteries.
    >
    > "Charging lithium-ion batteries"
    > http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
    >
    > "Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as

    nickel-based
    > batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th

    charge.
    > Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for

    the first
    > time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."
    >
    > The charge state when the battery leaves the factory, is selected
    > for best shelf life. This article compares the shelf life at a couple
    > of charge states. The battery is shipped with less than a 100% charge
    > on purpose.
    >
    > http://www.batteryuniversity.com/print-partone-19.htm
    >
    > Since the battery is going to wear out in a couple years anyway,
    > might as well just use it and enjoy it.
    >
    > If the battery terminal voltage becomes too low, the charger may refuse to
    > charge it. And that is for safety reasons.
    >
    > HTH,
    > Paul

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    The main worry is that battery content did not flowed out and didn't damaged
    a laptop housing..

    Balzer
     
  10. Shenan Stanley

    Shenan Stanley Flightless Bird

    Balzer wrote:
    > The main worry is that battery content did not flowed out and
    > didn't damaged a laptop housing..


    What?

    Is that "did flow out and did damage laptop housing"?

    Or, "In order to prevent damage from a possibly leaking battery when storing
    the laptop, the laptop battery should be separated from the laptop and
    stored in a separate location,"?

    --
    Shenan Stanley
    MS-MVP
    --
    How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
     
  11. Balzer

    Balzer Flightless Bird

    "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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    > Balzer wrote:
    > > The main worry is that battery content did not flowed out and
    > > didn't damaged a laptop housing..

    >
    > What?
    >
    > Is that "did flow out and did damage laptop housing"?
    >
    > Or, "In order to prevent damage from a possibly leaking battery when

    storing
    > the laptop, the laptop battery should be separated from the laptop and
    > stored in a separate location,"?
    >
    > --
    > Shenan Stanley
    > MS-MVP
    > --
    > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
    >

    -------
    Yep. the second formulation is correct. Any battery can leak.
     
  12. Anthony Buckland

    Anthony Buckland Flightless Bird

    "Balzer" <Balzer@nospam.microsoft.news> wrote in message
    news:eVxaX9dqKHA.5736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > ... Any battery can leak.
    >


    Yup. I spent a little while last week filing green
    deposits off the contacts of a battery charger.
    In other surroundings the effects could be far,
    far worse.
     

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